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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:24pm On Nov 03, 2017
Curtisaxel27:


A million likes for this, bro. The amount of goals a player scores in a season is determined by a lot of variables including team tactics and coach's philosophy, quality or suitability of team mates in support, age, form e.t.c.
This said, Ronaldo may struggle to get 10 goals in a season if he moves back to the EPL. It's all about player's compatibility with the team's playing pattern and philosophy.
Yakubu was scoring freely in a top flight EPL club but he flopped at the WC. He simply didn't fit in!
So, if Rohr thinks any player will suit his pattern and philosophy, let him be invited.
The point you made about Yakubu is why I've emphasised that club football is not the same as national team football. The same game but the dynamics are sometimes different.
Before Aiyegbeni there was Jonathan Akpoborie who was scoring goals in the Bundesliga yet whenever he was playing for the Super Eagles, he was either him out running the ball or the ball out running him. It was frustrating to watch him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 6:27pm On Nov 03, 2017
Steven N'Zonzi has earned his first France call-up at the age of 28 having consistently impressed in La Liga. He rejected DR Congo 7 times.

Make of it what you want.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:28pm On Nov 03, 2017
Mujtahida:

The point you made about Yakubu is why I've emphasised that club football is not the same as national team football. The same game but the dynamics are sometimes different.
Before Aiyegbeni there was Jonathan Akpoborie who was scoring goals in the Bundesliga yet whenever he was playing for the Super Eagles, he was either him out running the ball or the ball out running him. It was frustrating to watch him.

Yakubu is one of the record highest scorers for Nigeria. Number 3, i believe. He scored plenty goals for Nigeria.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:29pm On Nov 03, 2017
Joebie:
grin wiket sister hahahaha


You people will see the truth but do not have the courage to point it out

Well, it took safarigirl, a Lady, to voice it out and you are here shinning teeth.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:29pm On Nov 03, 2017
joseph1013:
Steven N'Zonzi has earned his first France call-up at the age of 28 having consistently impressed in La Liga. He rejected DR Congo 7 times.

Make of it what you want.

He knew where his heart was.. DRC does not guarantee him major tournaments.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:30pm On Nov 03, 2017
tbaba1234:


Yakubu is one of the record highest scorers for Nigeria. Number 3, i believe. He scored plenty goals for Nigeria.
Okay I failed to contextualise it cos he mentioned flop at the WC.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:36pm On Nov 03, 2017
Oasis007:
On a more serious Note, I think Forgiveness is really crossing the Line with his Allegations and Submissions. He's not the only Yoruba Man commenting or visiting the Thread on daily Basis.

I would advise him to stop referencing to certain Section of the Country getting more Recognitions for the National Teams Call ups, coz we actually do not need it. This kinda Reasoning is very absurd and he's given some to tag him a Bigot.

Its very unfortunate matured Men are engaging him in this kinda Discourse. It's better Forgiveness is ignored than engaging him on tribal Issue. We are all Nigerians, thus we should be less-concerned with who is repping us in the National Teams.

It actually makes no sense asking for equal Representation in the National Teams, coz its simply translating to DISUNITY in the Country. President, SGF, COS, majority of the Service Chiefs are from a Section of the Country, does that mean there are no better Heads than them?!

I advise Forgiveness once Again to please stop causing DISCORD from the tribal Point of View. I'm ain't saying he's a Bigot, rather advising him to quit toeing the Path. I expect the Thread to be discussing and analyzing our Chances with the List, instead of this incessant Discourse.

Good morning Sir.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SerVik(m): 6:48pm On Nov 03, 2017
komekn:


Dele Alli left league 1, MK Dons straight to the premiership at only 19 and with top speed to the England senior team. Gomez at Liverpool left Charlton Athletic (league 1) straight to Liverpool first team at age 18, Ademola Lookman left Charlton Athletic straight to Everton first team. Calvert Lewin left Sheffield United straight too Everton first team. Why because they were outstanding players in those leagues. I could go on and on.

Fred Onyedinma at the tender age of 17 was awarded MOTM in the championship with Millwall. At this stage Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham and Man U, were all trying to sign him. His agents and Millwall messed up the transfer. Otherwise he would be in the EPL and his development would have taken a different trajectory. He currently is in the Championship with Millwall rejecting moves to other EPL clubs in favour of staying. See below links to substantiate my claims as not just my opinion.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/fa-league-cups/tottenham-vs-millwall-fred-onyedinma-on-being-back-of-neil-harris-new-local-generation-a7621936.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/watford-eyeing-move-millwall-winger-9720002

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/309464/Arsenal-to-fight-off-Manchester-City-and-Liverpool-for-Millwall-starlet-Fred-Onyedinma

I never ever reduced the standard but when a player proves his pedigree. As we say when small pikin wash hand, he go follow king chop.

When Tega had his first few weeks in the championship if we had invited him to the SE. Would we be having all this talk about him insulting Nigeria. We jumped on the bandwagon after he had blown up.

It's obvious you haven't watched Fred Onyedinma play. Watch his game in the FA cup against Tottenham and you go change mind.

I will talk of a Ghanaian origin player Tariq Ofosu, watched him as a teenager when Hope Akpan was at Reading Fc in the EPL then. I immediately pencilled him as outstanding quality. Unfortunately he was sidelined and other players pushed ahead it's football politics. He is now in Charlton watch what happens in the next few months.

You can be in a lower league and stand out or just get lost. It's actually very difficult to play technically proficient football in a predominantly blood and guts, kick and rush league. But when you do you know it's a quality player you are seeing. It's easy to look good when you have top quality players around you.

Finally, Fred Onyedinma was born in Nigeria and played in the same local team as Iwobi. If he had chosen Arsenal maybe his development would have been different.


All what you' ve wrote is proof that top prospects can still play in the less fancied backwater leagues. So setting these lofty standards of top 5 leagues being the sole search radius for national team invites might in the long run prove to be detrimental to our football development.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:54pm On Nov 03, 2017
SerVik:
All what you' ve wrote is prove that top prospects can still play in the less fancied backwater leagues. So setting these lofty standards of top 5 leagues being the sole search radius for national team invites might in the long run prove to be detrimental to our football development.

Correct.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:57pm On Nov 03, 2017
Mujtahida:

I will modify it by saying that it's possible that it is his elder brother that pulled the strings for his invite. I am making inference. Not stating it as an absolute fact.
Google C. Nwakali invitation, well deserved. Read the article on ans.com

I read that article. There was no where it stated the brother pulled strings. It is simply am agent explaining why his client deserves a call-up.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:00pm On Nov 03, 2017
komekn:


Your proposition stands on naked blatant prejudice.

Fred Onyedinma is 20 years old has played 140 games in the championship and league 1. That's an experienced outstanding professional.

At the age of 17 he was winning MOTM awards a player who chose to show sentimental loyalty and turned down a move to Watford in the EPL to stay at Millwall.


Fred playing 140+ league games is far from possible though I'm not taking it along as he's still 20.

I can say that he's afraid of competitions and maybe doubts his talent which made him to turn down watford if true. He would have taken up the challenge against best.

Many 17 year olds has won MOTM many times. Just one very good game will give you MOTM so it's not a yardstick of measurement rather it's consistency.
He needs to do more.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:03pm On Nov 03, 2017
Mujtahida:

The point you made about Yakubu is why I've emphasised that club football is not the same as national team football. The same game but the dynamics are sometimes different.
Before Aiyegbeni there was Jonathan Akpoborie who was scoring goals in the Bundesliga yet whenever he was playing for the Super Eagles, he was either him out running the ball or the ball out running him. It was frustrating to watch him.

First off, Yakubu Aiyegbeni was a prolific striker for Nigeria even emerging 3rd all time highest. He scored very important goals in our different WC qualifier campaigns. Please don't use that miss at the 2010 WC alone to judge him.

Then, I have always said it that club football is different from national team football. There are some players that look so electrifying at their clubs but when they get to the super eagles they fail to even kick start. And some pose average performances at their clubs but become super performers at the national team.

That's why we must be very careful with some names we are throwing in here. They may not be national team materials. Good that Rohr recognizes this and has been inviting new players cautiously.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:04pm On Nov 03, 2017

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:08pm On Nov 03, 2017
tbaba1234:
Ebere Eze

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwM-T1kmOPY
This guy is a gem.
He can easily score with both legs.
How old is he?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:09pm On Nov 03, 2017
Icon4s:


This guy is a gem.

He can easily score with both legs.

How old is he?

19
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:10pm On Nov 03, 2017
tbaba1234:

19
Good.
And what is his nationality status?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:15pm On Nov 03, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


I read that article. There was no where it stated the brother pulled strings. It is simply am agent explaining why his client deserves a call-up.
''He is very young and full of energy. It is a well deserved one and I thank the coaching crew, the NFF and people that remember Chidiebere is still in existence.
'' They told me when his time come they will invite him and they fulfilled their promise. I hold them in high esteem,'' added Allwell Nwakali.
They told me when his time come they will invite him and they fulfilled their promise. I hold them in high esteem,'' added Allwell Nwakali.
I drew my inference from this statement coupled with the fact that he's an agent and this is Naija. I am not positing it as a fact but an opinion based on the above. Cos I asked myself why would the NFF tell him if he did not ask or try to make it happen for his brother with the Super Eagles.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:19pm On Nov 03, 2017
Icon4s:


Good.

And what is his nationality status?
the problem with nff...is lack of sense...
they gladly go after players who will embarass them and the country rather than players who declared for us...

this dude trained wit the super eagles sometime ago in London including ola aina...

we don't even have an under 20 team as at present...no friendlies for the age grade teams...

just imagine what's wrong wit inviting someone like dessers to come replace ighalo and let him feel appreciated
with the way the nff is going nah I don't think it is safe to declare for the super eagles anymore....

what's wrong wit inviting otigba when he was in his prime...?
many of this good players we will keep loosing because the coaches and the football federation are just myopic...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:20pm On Nov 03, 2017
Icon4s:


First off, Yakubu Aiyegbeni was a prolific striker for Nigeria even emerging 3rd all time highest. He scored very important goals in our different WC qualifier campaigns. Please don't use that miss at the 2010 WC alone to judge him.

Then, I have always said it that club football is different from national team football. There are some players that look so electrifying at their clubs but when they get to the super eagles they fail to even kick start. And some pose average performances at their clubs but become super performers at the national team.

That's why we must be very careful with some names we are throwing in here. They may not be national team materials. Good that Rohr recognizes this and has been inviting new players cautiously.
The bolded is my point. I used a wrong example to back it up when I mentioned Aiyegbeni.
Your note of caution is well sounded cos truly not all can replicate their club form in Gwg. That's why I loved Rashidi. Aghahowa too was a good goal scorer for the Super Eagles though he didn't last long.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:20pm On Nov 03, 2017
Icon4s:


Good.

And what is his nationality status?

Nigerian and Scottish...

He trained with the super eagles already in London along with Ola Aina. He said he is from Mbaise in Imo. He is wide open for a national team invite.

I think he is a big talent.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:28pm On Nov 03, 2017
Mujtahida:

''He is very young and full of energy. It is a well deserved one and I thank the coaching crew, the NFF and people that remember Chidiebere is still in existence.
'' They told me when his time come they will invite him and they fulfilled their promise. I hold them in high esteem,'' added Allwell Nwakali.
They told me when his time come they will invite him and they fulfilled their promise. I hold them in high esteem,'' added Allwell Nwakali.
I drew my inference from this statement coupled with the fact that he's an agent and this is Naija. I am not positing it as a fact but an opinion based on the above. Cos I asked myself why would the NFF tell him if he did not ask or try to make it happen for his brother with the Super Eagles.

I wonder if you understand what pulling strings is. It is normal for agents to enquire if their players will get called to the National team. All agents do that. It is also normal to receive assurances when a player's time will come, he will get invited.

That is not pulling strings. Pulling strings means, making things happen.

Gerrit?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:36pm On Nov 03, 2017
SerVik:
All what you' ve wrote is proof that top prospects can still play in the less fancied backwater leagues. So setting these lofty standards of top 5 leagues being the sole search radius for national team invites might in the long run prove to be detrimental to our football development.
That might be a criteria, framework but not a rigid rule as komekn seems to make it to be. Because to be fair, there's a link between the quality of a player and the league he plays in but I still regard this criteria as just one out of other modes through which players for the national team can be selected. Komekn error or misconception is that he regards this criteria as the Alpha and Omega, the sole mode for choosing players.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:42pm On Nov 03, 2017
ask safarigirl, i've always called out forgiveness on that.. so relax bro

Icon4s:


You people will see the truth but do not have the courage to point it out

Well, it took safarigirl, a Lady, to voice it out and you are here shinning teeth.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:45pm On Nov 03, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


I wonder if you understand what pulling strings is. It is normal for agents to enquire if their players will get called to the National team. All agents do that. It is also normal to receive assurances when a player's time will come, he will get invited.

That is not pulling strings. Pulling strings means, making things happen.

Gerrit?
I don't gerrit. So you don't know that just by calling, a person can make things happen depending on the person's clout? Ultimately I said it's my opinion based on the parameters I gave earlier on. I am not saying it's a fact. It's more like a reasonable suspicion on my part. Cos you trying to push it the other way when you also don't know for a fact how(as in the details based on verifiable facts) he got invited. So don't let us spar on what basically are just two opinions abi you know for a fact how them take invite am?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:47pm On Nov 03, 2017
Germany don collect Felix udokhai

Modified :

Apology...... Na U-21
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:52pm On Nov 03, 2017
Joebie:
ask safarigirl, i've always called out forgiveness on that.. so relax bro


No wahala. Just that we should say things straight just the way they are.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:54pm On Nov 03, 2017
Chrismario:
Germany don collect Felix udokhai

Modified :

Apology...... Na U-21

Under 21
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PROVERBZ(m): 7:56pm On Nov 03, 2017
For the very 1st time I am bringing an exclusive to the group god I feel so proud of this my contribution well here it is


Did girona just reveal kayode has been invited to super eagles??

I don't know think about it

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:57pm On Nov 03, 2017
tbaba1234:


Under 21

Yeeaga.
Av corrected my mistake

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:58pm On Nov 03, 2017
PROVERBZ:
For the very 1st time I am bringing an exclusive to the group god I feel so proud of this my contribution well here it is


Did girona just reveal kayode has been invited to super eagles??

I don't know think about it

Looks like, he might have invited to replace Ighalo.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:01pm On Nov 03, 2017
Kayode's invitation will make forgiveness a little happy.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:08pm On Nov 03, 2017
Mujtahida:

I don't gerrit. So you don't know that just by calling a person can make things happen depending on the person's clout? Ultimately I said it's my opinion based on the parameters I gave earlier on. I am not saying it's a fact. It's more like a reasonable suspicion on my part. Cos you trying to push it the other way when you also don't know for a fact how(as in the details based on verifiable facts) he got invited. So don't let us spar on what basically are just two opinions abi you know for a fact how them take invite am?

If you said you suspect, it is a different case. Finito.

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