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Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by Nasa28(m): 11:36pm On Nov 03, 2017 |
crazypencils20: Did he buy? |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by Nasa28(m): 11:37pm On Nov 03, 2017 |
Dindondin: They're doing charity through their schools.... |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by Kbanka: 11:45pm On Nov 03, 2017 |
According to OP, car and private jet are .... 1 Like
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Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by crafteck(m): 11:56pm On Nov 03, 2017 |
PointZerom:Fool |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by SilvanusII(m): 12:05am On Nov 04, 2017 |
you lack understanding. Stating corporations av jets, IS THE CHURCH A CORPORATION? Perhaps a definition of corporation should help you. "...Ny house shall be a house of prayer, but u av made it a den of tgieves..." Jesus groomed disciples so he wouldn't av to travel all over and back for crusades and revivals. |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by ogbiwa: 12:07am On Nov 04, 2017 |
Nasa28: Wow see wisdom. Jesus didn't bother right? In Jesus' day people trekked distances as far as Lagos to Ilorin just to attend occasions. But you'll be cursing when you can't find bike to take you to your house from your junction. Apostle Paul and others from the "old churches" travel from Jerusalem to Rome on foot and donkey just to pass news of the gospel. You want to compare us with the old right? Wisdom indeed And just extra, Jesus requested for an ass that had never been used in order to ride into Jerusalem, that's the modern day equivalent of the very best means of transport. Perhaps you should read the bible more to know what Jesus bothered about and what he didn't. Top piece statsocial 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by adelee777: 1:03am On Nov 04, 2017 |
DanXplore: Wow!!! God has really given you understanding and wisdom. God bless you for this piece. It shows there are still christians in Nigeria and not all are ''my pastor is always right''. |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by ogatboy(m): 1:46am On Nov 04, 2017 |
I usually don't comment on threads but this shows many people arguing don't even know the Bible. Who says tithing is just in the old testament? When Paul said that the leaders feed the people with spiritual food and it is right for them to get material things from the people meant what?? People living on other people's opinion and not on the Bible. Well whatever you do, do it unto God and not man including tithing. Read your Bible and follow your belief of the Bible and not what someone says to claim self righteousness. You think it's your tithing that is keeping the church rich financially?? Smh |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by joxiri: 3:49am On Nov 04, 2017 |
This is a really daft article, when willNigerians actually think with their brains. it's high time nairaland started auditing the threads posted here for quality purposes People can't just come on here and be posting random nonsense Willy nilly |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by shadeyinka(m): 5:23am On Nov 04, 2017 |
somehow: Of course. It was borrowed. ..someone said it was tear rubber! Extortions in the name of Christ openly perpetuated. |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by shadeyinka(m): 5:24am On Nov 04, 2017 |
jamace: Their kingdom is of this world. That's why none of them is preaching rapture or heaven. Too different from our Master and Lord Jesus 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by lereinter(m): 5:50am On Nov 04, 2017 |
Statsocial: how many private jet does oyedepo have |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by KpStone(m): 6:03am On Nov 04, 2017 |
sonofluc1fer:Yes |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by Topgainer: 6:52am On Nov 04, 2017 |
I used to think that the moniker statsocial has some reasonable person behind it but I was wrong. It is either he gets his share of the money extorted from Christians or he operates an extortion ring himself. He is so blinded and has a clouded reasoning when it comes to defending pastorpreneurs. Golf stream G650 will cost nothing less than 18 billion naira if pre-ordered, that should take like 2 years to arrive. Impatient as we Africans are, 3rd party purchase will might cost about the same although, it may have been put into a deal of flight hours by the agency. For each jet, there is a crew and a team that must be paid according to international aviation standards, there is a 'perching' cost and levies. All these and much more ensures that the operating cost is substantial. A pastor needs as many PJs to take the fake prosperity gospel to London, NY, Paris, Dubai, Caribbean, Amsterdam and Hongkong because they have not heard the gospel of Jesus. Except the Pastor does a personal business like selling tapes, books, wrist bangles and other stuffs for profit,( in any case, he is a false Levite) there is no point comparing his private jets bought and run with the regular contributions of the brethren, with a private car. It is even an indictment on the Pastors if they do businesses for profit and at the same time lay claim to the Levite stool. Deeperlife, Jehovah witness and some other Church organizations have good books they don't sell for profit despite the millions of copies in print. Example, Awake magazine is a rich book and there is no country on this earth that does not have copies of it in circulation, it is also in as much languages as the Bible. It is not sold for profit. Why then should a Pastor take pride that he has best seller books and tapes sold to Christians, that rakes in so much profit that can take care of PJs. There is no fraudulent scheme that can be compared to this trending Prosperity Gospel. It is the greatest advanced- fee- fraud in human history. 1 Like |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by drnoel: 7:33am On Nov 04, 2017 |
Statsocial: Used for a while. Not the recent Pope. And the pope doesn't keep a private jet. Get ur info straight 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by menxer: 8:25am On Nov 04, 2017 |
Statsocial: Well, to me the question sounds more like, What is the significant difference between earthly treasures and heavenly treasures? that makes acquisition of earthly treasures 'sinful' while the acquisition of a heavenly tteasures is acceptable? |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by Nobody: 8:33am On Nov 04, 2017 |
Topgainer:Character assassination! That is all you doing. I am not the focus of the message so stay on course... From the First day the Living Faith four members gathered to worship together in the 1980s it had been established that the Living Faith is a Prosperity based ministry. The desire to own private jets had been established so early in the Ministry even when the church wasn't rich at all. So it is not as if the decision to own jets just came as a result of a sudden boom in Church wealth. The first jet of the Church the Hawker Siddeley was purchased in September 1996 for 100 million naira and the church had to resolve to upgrade and retire her older jets when the Hawker Siddeley nearly crashed out of the sky enroute Kano. The Hawker Siddeley had poor flight safety records and had to give way to a more modern and safe jet. At times they would sell the older jet, add money and buy new ones or even upgrade. So the decision to buy Gulfstream wasn't necessarily luxury based... To the issue of Cost. Cost is a very relative issue. If Living Faith spends 1% of her budget on jet maintenance and a growing church spends 1% of her budget on Bus maintenance then what would you be accusing Living Faith for exactly? Now living Faith is headed by some very smart individuals and I can bet you they would circumvent most of that service and maintenance cost you put up there. The Church earlier expressed interest in renting out her private jets, if that had been done(I'm not sure they re currently renting out) then they would cover up all that cost in a bit and still make profit still. |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by judgedredd22(m): 8:47am On Nov 04, 2017 |
Statsocial:
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Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by Filmewell(f): 9:03am On Nov 04, 2017 |
My take on this is since the reason for a private jet is for easy travels, let him appoint representatives around the world .pope was used as an example pope has not been in Nigeria in long time cos he has papal nuncio everywhere. If oydepo and other pastors actually believe that many other people received the anointing they should appoint people to do whatever work that is making them to travel all the time. The miracles and impartation is from God not from man. So no need for their presence all the time unless is really a business venture and they are overlooking their businesses. My opinion though |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by Keneeby(m): 9:09am On Nov 04, 2017 |
PrecisionFx: Sorry I didn't know you are an idol worshiper |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by crazypencils20: 9:35am On Nov 04, 2017 |
Nasa28: In the same vein, were the private Jets bought by the pastors or by the church as an organization? |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by somehow: 9:42am On Nov 04, 2017 |
They always like to twist the bible to suit their motives because they know most religious people don't read and prefer to be read to. shadeyinka: |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by somehow: 9:45am On Nov 04, 2017 |
No, you said tithe was instituted because the other 11 tribes of Israel we're greedy and I disputed that by proving via the bible why it was instituted at that time and why tithe is no longer needed in this dispensation. Jews don't even pay tithe again because the temple has been destroyed. I don't pay tithe, was only correcting a wrong notion in your write up. DanXplore: |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by somehow: 9:48am On Nov 04, 2017 |
Yes it was made for the levites and also for the down throden/strangers in the land. Levites were forbidden from owning properties or working outside the temple, so their own part of the inheritance in Israel was the 10th gotten from the other tribes (only land produce). DanXplore: |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by Martinez19(m): 10:05am On Nov 04, 2017 |
PointZerom:the highest means of transportation was a chariot, a well designed and expensive chariot. |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by Nobody: 10:10am On Nov 04, 2017 |
kraftyiyk:I don't know why you catholics keep quoting me unnecessarily. One question: have you ever seen the Pope disembark on a plane with any commuter apart from his entourage? The last I saw the pope he was disembarking from a private plane with a red carpet rolled out in Washington. He was the only coming down. As far as he was the only passenger alongside crew members and his aides then it was a 'privately' chartered plane. Whether you own it or not so far you are the only one(alongside your aides) in the plane then it is a private plane. Cc drnoel
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Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by shadeyinka(m): 10:14am On Nov 04, 2017 |
somehow: I guess its also because we trust the MOGs more than the plain words of the scriptures. Hero worship at work there. |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by okusman(m): 10:47am On Nov 04, 2017 |
Statsocial: I don't want to say anything about this.. but please stop asking about the significant difference between private jet and car... it makes you look stup1d..... |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by Nobody: 10:53am On Nov 04, 2017 |
shadeyinka:People have actually attempted to answer the question. If you can't move away and stop making foolish comments. |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by Martinez19(m): 11:46am On Nov 04, 2017 |
Who is that idiot comparing a car and a private jet. Do how much a private jet costs? EA Adeboye has a private jet worth $10,000,000, where did he get the money from is not tithes, sowed seeds and offering? If he were a business man, sports super star or a millionaire's child, it wouldn't have raised any dust but a man with no multi-million dollars business or venture apart from his ministry where members are talked into paying tithes, sowing seeds and paying offerings is the one owing a private jet, how come? What makes it a scam is that the doctrines he teaches is a scam and he knows it. Also, most of his members are poor and the blessings that he made his members believe in, if they sow seeds, are false and do not manifest. The church is supposed to be an epitome of charity in the society but EA Adeboye's church has a university that poor members can't attend and the poor are not being helped by the churches these days. Don't forget the fake miracles and prophecies too. Using this technique to extort money from people is theft. So I hope the sheeples would now know why private jet owning pastors are lambasted from time to time. |
Re: Why Pastors Use Private Jets And A Question For OAP Freeze - By Ife Olaleye by Nobody: 11:48am On Nov 04, 2017 |
Keneeby: Nope. I am not an idol worshipper, Christians are the main idol worshippers around. |
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