somehow:
Yes it was made for the levites and also for the down throden/strangers in the land.

Levites were forbidden from owning properties or working outside the temple, so their own part of the inheritance in Israel was the 10th gotten from the other tribes (only land produce).

To be honest, i am quite busy. If u noticed, i did not give full scriptural references and even the few i mentioned where paraphrased. If i had the time, i would bring out all the scriptural references to tithe and prove to you that we are to even eat part of the tithe if we go by the actual standards of tithing. I might do that in future if i still remember this dialogue, but for now, I am squeezing out time to respond because this subject is very sensitive and the unveilment of truth is long overdue. You can choose to disagree at the inferences made if it does not agree with your understanding of the principles of the gospel as u like, that is not my business. What is most important is that you are truly saved.

Nasa28:



They're doing charity through their schools....

I spot your sacarsm.
And it's due to your lack of understanding of how a standard private University is runned.
These private Universities are costly to maintain. There must be constant electricity, water, payment of staff, provision of amenities. All these our public Universities are lacking. That's why they go on strike anyhow.
Recently Babcock University said they spend N4b on power generation annually, Afe Babalola University built a multi million naira hospital. You, Mr Nasa28 if you own such school will your fees be as cheap as that of public Universities?
Am sure you ll say shebi these schools were built with tithes and offering of parents or members of such church. Well, the reality is their is huge discount for bonafide members. Ask insiders of RCCG if they don't consider ministers children's school fees.

Statsocial:

I return that curse to you and your entire lineage!

E pain am!

Statsocial:

I return that curse to you and your entire lineage!

See Christian paying evil for evil. Na so your yahoo yahoo pastor teach you?
Olodo

Dindondin:
I spot your sacarsm.
And it's due to your lack of understanding of how a standard private University is runned.
These private Universities are costly to maintain. There must be constant electricity, water, payment of staff, provision of amenities. All these our public Universities are lacking. That's why they go on strike anyhow.
Recently Babcock University said they spend N4b on power generation annually, Afe Babalola University built a multi million naira hospital. You, Mr Nasa28 if you own such school will your fees be as cheap as that of public Universities?
Am sure you ll say shebi these schools were built with tithes and offering of parents or members of such church. Well, the reality is their is huge discount for bonafide members. Ask insiders of RCCG if they don't consider ministers children's school fees.

Lol, N4b on electricity annually. Hmmmm Akiiiika!
Useless liars, they still collect billions in tithe every month. They should use that in running the schools and the church. The school should be free. Except if they stop collecting tithe.

We are saying the same thing bros but from different angles.

DanXplore:


To be honest, i am quite busy. If u noticed, i did not give full scriptural references and even the few i mentioned where paraphrased. If i had the time, i would bring out all the scriptural references to tithe and prove to you that we are to even eat part of the tithe if we go by the actual standards of tithing. I might do that in future if i still remember this dialogue, but for now, I am squeezing out time to respond because this subject is very sensitive and the unveilment of truth is long overdue. You can choose to disagree at the inferences made if it does not agree with your understanding of the principles of the gospel as u like, that is not my business. What is most important is that you are truly saved.

pocohantas:
Once I see these kinda posts shared with me, I just know it's Sirfee!!

Nne biko stop,odikwa very risky.



I don't want the bible huggers to come for my head(lol).......

Statsocial:
I'm curious, what does sirfee means?

Bro,hope everything is fine.

Statsocial:

I don't know why you catholics keep quoting me unnecessarily.
One question: have you ever seen the Pope disembark on a plane with any commuter apart from his entourage?
The last I saw the pope he was disembarking from a private plane with a red carpet rolled out in Washington. He was the only coming down. As far as he was the only passenger alongside crew members and his aides then it was a 'privately' chartered plane. Whether you own it or not so far you are the only one(alongside your aides) in the plane then it is a private plane.


Cc drnoel

Jesus, u are a lost case. That his visit to the US that was so much broadcasted and televised that I wonder if u are just playing ignorance. I repeat, get ur story and record straight. As if u didn't know that the said plane in the picture was not hired or owned by the pope or the catholic church. Yes he moves with his crew sometimes, thats true but that doesn't mean he hires or owns the planes.
Stop using the pope to compare ur pastors who own private jets. They may all be men but they are not of the same category and u know it.


cc Statsocial

Statsocial:

People have actually attempted to answer the question. If you can't move away and stop making foolish comments.

Some peoples heart ... so filled with trash. Even when a matter does not concern them, they can't just help but spill out the excess filth stored inside!

Amebo!

PrecisionFx:



The only reason Oyedekpo owns private jets ai because Nigerians are generally stupid, gullible n fully uneducated. No need to tell anyone to sell their cars and use BRT before they talk about pastors that use tithes n offerings to buy private jets. First things first, shey oyedekpo dem dem are living a Christ like life, Christ never owned a donkey, He never owned a house, he shared everything he has or whatever was contributed to everyone around...... Ur Nigerian pastors do the exact opposite of that.

U are a very ignorant person, receive sense wen ever it pleases u.

Bishop Oyedepo owns a jet because his schedule demands it and he has paid the price for it. ... Nigerians are not stupid or gullible but following their hearts .... You are not more intelligent or richer than those who made the jet possible. A stupid man is the one who tries to advice a rich man on wealth when he is yet to have personal proofs


As for your attempt at scripture, it is obvious you are one of these bulletin folks lacking any real biblical knowledge beyond the perfunctory homily of your leaders . For you information, Jesus always did as occasion demanded. He travelled in a convoy of ships when he needed , got a new brand horse when he needed it. Paid his tax when it was demanded , had a treasurer which you of today dint have even with your self evaluation of your sense of worth and better intelligence than winners members. Ordinary pillow that Hausa men sells was so important in Jesus times that it got a mention that he was sleeping with a pillow in the sleep.


When Jesus walked the earth he was limited by technology that he never visited Nigeria to preach the gospel. But when he was about to leave he said we will do greater works than he did. That work is not in quality for he was the only one with grace without measure . That greater works is in numbers .. winners, as a commission has covered more part of the world than Jesus did when he was alive on earth and it is possible because the founder has a means of movement that allows carry the gospel and anointing in comfort and timely ... He is not holding parties aboard those jets ... Pastors are sent on missions abroad every other day and they need to go and return on time

Sorry but you are the one that need sense and not the other way round . Jesus owned a house ... Read Matt 9:28 and his disciples weren't a collection of poor folks for when Jesus said it was easier for the camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to make heaven his disciples didn't leap for joy but were worried asking themselves who then would make heaven ... Everyone of them was worried until jesus pacified them

Finally, if your so called sense doesn't make your bank manager a personal friend that calls you by name because of worth to his or where branch financially, it is useless to you ... Join the gullible team

drnoel:


Jesus, u are a lost case. That his visit to the US that was so much broadcasted and televised that I wonder if u are just playing ignorance. I repeat, get ur story and record straight. As if u didn't know that the said plane in the picture was not hired or owned by the pope or the catholic church. Yes he moves with his crew sometimes, thats true but that doesn't mean he hires or owns the planes.
Stop using the pope to compare ur pastors who own private jets. They may all be men but they are not of the same category and u know it.


cc Statsocial

The pope doesn't deserve a jet. How many time in a week does the people travel to other parts of the world for evangelism.

Then peters pence has been so bastardised and used to cater for other needs that it can't maintain a private jet.
Some church in us has been sold others merged because of dwindling membership and payment of child abuse compensation and retirement benefits

DanXplore:


To be honest, i am quite busy. If u noticed, i did not give full scriptural references and even the few i mentioned where paraphrased. If i had the time, i would bring out all the scriptural references to tithe and prove to you that we are to even eat part of the tithe if we go by the actual standards of tithing. I might do that in future if i still remember this dialogue, but for now, I am squeezing out time to respond because this subject is very sensitive and the unveilment of truth is long overdue. You can choose to disagree at the inferences made if it does not agree with your understanding of the principles of the gospel as u like, that is not my business. What is most important is that you are truly saved.

The tithe you pay today is not the tithe of the levites but Abraham's tithe .. he is our father in the faith and it is his blessings that we are after not that of Levite's. Tithe is God agenda and the purpose is to fund his work here on the earth , the very reason the records are acknowledged in heaven ...Heb 7:8

Mal 3:10 says being all the tithes so that there may be meat in mine house and Jesu said in Malachi ::3:10 says to bring in the tithe so that there might be meat in his house and Jesus Christ explained what that meant in Matt 10:9-10......Your tithe provides the things(meat is used) Jesus asked his disciples not to take along with them.


Launching, bazaar sales , raffle draws and all forms of Levy's are not God's way for his church and it is the reason it takes those who engage such gimmickry to raise funds years to complete any project they embarks on even going to borrow sometimes. People come to launching and make pledges they never redeem and in today Nigeria, it is foolishness to be a chief launcher of anymkind, they pick up everything avaiduring bazaar and never pay afterwards

Themandator:



The pope doesn't deserve a jet. How many time in a week does the people travel to other parts of the world for evangelism.

Then peters pence has been so bastardised and used to cater for other needs that it can't maintain a private jet.
Some church in us has been sold others merged because of dwindling membership and payment of child abuse compensation and retirement benefits

I doubt he even needs one. Not that the catholic church can't buy him one, mind u

Themandator:

The tithe you pay today is not the tithe of the levites but Abraham's tithe .. he is our father in the faith and it is his blessings that we are after not that of Levite's.

It was recorded that Abraham tithed once, and never again was there a record of Abraham tithing. In principle, he tithed as a form of honour to Melchezedek. Never was there any other mention of Abraham tithing; the passage you quoted even reveals that according to the transcendent property of tithing, Abraham tithed on behalf of the Levites. If we are Abraham's children, then by the same logic, we tithed to Melchizedek through Abraham. You also mentioned that we are after Abraham's blessings. Is there a portion of Abraham's blessings that could only be accessed through tithing? When God was instructing Israel through prophet Isaiah to follow the steps Abraham and Sarah, was he referring to religious tithing or genuine righteousness? Do you understand what the scripture meant by Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, by being made a curse for us? We access Abraham's blessings through Jesus Christ and not by doing the carnal things Abraham did.

and not is God agenda and the purpose is to fund his work here on the earth , the very reason the records are acknowledged in heaven ...Heb 7:8

If tithes are used for the purpose of God's work, then what are offerings to be used for? Do not get me wrong, If the church presents a genuine goal, and the body of Christ agrees that 10% of one's income should be donated to meet the goal, then it is fine. But saying that tithing is still in force because we are Abraham's blessings is just wrong. Circumcision was done by Abraham even before the law. Why then did Paul say it was not necessary? Saying we should do the tithing of Abraham and not the levites is not any less ridiculous as saying we should do the circumcision of Abraham and not the circumcision of the law.

Mal 3:10 says being all the tithes so that there may be meat in mine house and Jesu said in Malachi ::3:10 says to bring in the tithe so that there might be meat in his house and Jesus Christ explained what that meant in Matt 10:9-10......Your tithe provides the things(meat is used) Jesus asked his disciples not to take along with them.

Again, God was talking to the Jews who were under the law and not Christians who are not under the law. When scripture says workers are to be paid their wages, did it say christians must contribute tithes to pay workers? please post a direct reference where Christ mentioned that christians should continue with the old tithing system so that workers could be paid. Nevertheless, i agree that a certain amount should be reserved by the church members for workers. You could name it tithe or what ever u want. A christian with conscience should know that a true Man of God deserves more than 10%. But when one begins to teach that it is a command that christians should pay tithe as done before the new covenant, then that is error

Launching, bazaar sales , raffle draws and all forms of Levy's are not God's way for his church and it is the reason it takes those who engage such gimmickry to raise funds years to complete any project they embarks on even going to borrow sometimes. People come to launching and make pledges they never redeem and in today Nigeria, it is foolishness to be a chief launcher of anymkind, they pick up everything avaiduring bazaar and never pay afterwards

drnoel:


Jesus, u are a lost case. That his visit to the US that was so much broadcasted and televised that I wonder if u are just playing ignorance. I repeat, get ur story and record straight. As if u didn't know that the said plane in the picture was not hired or owned by the pope or the catholic church. Yes he moves with his crew sometimes, thats true but that doesn't mean he hires or owns the planes.
Stop using the pope to compare ur pastors who own private jets. They may all be men but they are not of the same category and u know it.


cc Statsocial

One begins to wonder what they are teaching u in this so called catholic church if you can't debate without resorting to name calling..
Flying a private jet does not mean you own it. As a matter of fact the Living Faith Private Jets you see belong to an Organization called World Mission Agency. It is not registered in Oyedepo's name. If Oyedepo retires today that Jet would be administered by the Organization's head and not Oyedepo himself. What do you mean by your pope being in one category higher than Nigerian pastors. He is just a mere man with a portfolio. He would stand judgement just like any other man so why do you exalt him as though he is God's Personal Assistant.

If you choose to be willfully blind then it is your choice. I follow all of the pope's visit across the globe for just mere curiosity and I've never seen him descended from a commercial plane with commuters. Who cares whose Organization the plane is registered? All I know his he uses a private Alitalia plane.

Statsocial:

One begins to wonder what they are teaching u in this so called catholic church if you can't debate without resorting to name calling..
Flying a private jet does not mean you own it. As a matter of fact the Living Faith Private Jets you see belong to an Organization called World Mission Agency. It is not registered in Oyedepo's name. If Oyedepo retires today that Jet would be administered by the Organization's head and not Oyedepo himself. What do you mean by your pope being in one category higher than Nigerian pastors. He is just a mere man with a portfolio. He would stand judgement just like any other man so why do you exalt him as though he is God's Personal Assistant.

If you choose to be willfully blind then it is your choice. I follow all of the pope's visit across the globe for just mere curiosity and I've never seen him descended from a commercial plane with commuters. Who cares whose Organization the plane is registered? All I know his he uses a private Alitalia plane.

No name calling here? How did u arrive at that. Calling u a lost cause was no form of name calling with all due respect. I repeat sir, the catholic pope doesn't use or own a private jet. Maybe ur pastors do own some jets, but not the pope. If that truth is bothering u then deal with it. The Pope is ofcos several categories higher than ur pastors, after all he doesnt preach prosperity, wealth, he doesn't own a private jet, he doesn't own universities where its congregation can't afford school fees and he is completely humble and willing to accept all back in the folds of God and Christianity. These differences are gleaming and clear wether u accept it or not.

I am so sorry for you. Ur attempts to justify what is not justifiable. It is so sad that it bothers on hypocrisy. OMG these pastors have really robbed nigerian christians of their will to differentiate between right and wrong

sirfee:
Nne biko stop,odikwa very risky.



I don't want the bible huggers to come for my head(lol).......

LOL... One quoted me, asking 'what' is Sirfee?
Na me im wan use beef you, I bind him.

drnoel:


No name calling here? How did u arrive at that. Calling u a lost cause was no form of name calling with all due respect. I repeat sir, the catholic pope doesn't use or own a private jet. Maybe ur pastors do own some jets, but not the pope. If that truth is bothering u then deal with it. The Pope is ofcos several categories higher than ur pastors, after all he doesnt preach prosperity, wealth, he doesn't own a private jet, he doesn't own universities where its congregation can't afford school fees and he is completely humble and willing to accept all back in the folds of God and Christianity. These differences are gleaming and clear wether u accept it or not.

I am so sorry for you. Ur attempts to justify what is not justifiable. It is so sad that it bothers on hypocrisy. OMG these pastors have really robbed nigerian christians of their will to differentiate between right and wrong

This is just plain funny to me.. You apply one rule for the Catholic Church and apply another for yourselves. That is double standards Sir!

1) Have you seen the School fees of University of Notre Dame($40,000), University of Georgetown($40,000), Loyola Marymount University, Villanova University etc are all expensive universities that poor people even in the US can't afford unless they take loans.
Loyola Jesuit College(secondary school) in Abuja is 2.8 million naira per year, that is more than x 3 of Covenant uni school fees in this same Nigeria. So who is deceiving who?

You must think you are talking to a novice on Catholic matters. I would school you regarding your church Sir.
You have expensive schools yet you curse out those who also have. Your pope uses a private plane yet you want to twist it to make him look humble. Can I as a person choose to fly with the pope as a fellow commuter? Yet you are deceiving yourself that it is not a private plane.
You go near the popes private plane when it is taking off and see whether you won't be shot and covered by his numerous body guards.

pocohantas:


LOL... One quoted me, asking 'what' is Sirfee?
Na me im wan use beef you, I bind him.

Don't mind him,ain't got no time for e-war.Have a good night rest.

crafteck:
Fool

That is what you are.

primateayoola:
y

Use your sense and study Bible very well before quoting!!, Jesus christ was never recorded using horse but Donkey (even young one) that is a mark of humility.



Oh ye children of perdition!.

You belong here forever!

atoleybaba:
stop saying nonsense. The highest means of transport was a ship. And not horse oga

Didn't he use ship?

PointZerom:



Didn't he use ship?

did he own a ship?

Investnow2017:


There is no length they will no go. So Jesus rode on a Horse I now see why you support what your pastors practice. I thought you base your beliefs and practice on the fine example set by the only Begotten Son of God - Jesus! Jesus, the founder of True Christianity never owned nor rode a horse. I wish you will start reading the Bible. Jesus said 'i am meek and lowly in heart'. He would never succumb to immodesty. Study the Bible to learn about the Greatest Man Who Ever Lived who says: "I am the way the truth and the life." I wish you could obtain a copy of the Bible and learn about him.

He rode on donkey and uses ship which was the highest means of transportation then. There's nothing bad if a pastor uses private jet.

shadeyinka:

Incorrect dear, Highest mode of Transportation 1. Human Carriage 2. Chariot 3. Horse 4. Carmel 5. Donkey
Donkey is the least and Jesus rode one to Jerusalem

Ship was the highest and He used it.

Topgainer:
I used to think that the moniker statsocial has some reasonable person behind it but I was wrong. It is either he gets his share of the money extorted from Christians or he operates an extortion ring himself. He is so blinded and has a clouded reasoning when it comes to defending pastorpreneurs.
Golf stream G650 will cost nothing less than 18 billion naira if pre-ordered, that should take like 2 years to arrive. Impatient as we Africans are, 3rd party purchase will might cost about the same although, it may have been put into a deal of flight hours by the agency. For each jet, there is a crew and a team that must be paid according to international aviation standards, there is a 'perching' cost and levies. All these and much more ensures that the operating cost is substantial.
A pastor needs as many PJs to take the fake prosperity gospel to London, NY, Paris, Dubai, Caribbean, Amsterdam and Hongkong because they have not heard the gospel of Jesus. Except the Pastor does a personal business like selling tapes, books, wrist bangles and other stuffs for profit,( in any case, he is a false Levite) there is no point comparing his private jets bought and run with the regular contributions of the brethren, with a private car.
It is even an indictment on the Pastors if they do businesses for profit and at the same time lay claim to the Levite stool. Deeperlife, Jehovah witness and some other Church organizations have good books they don't sell for profit despite the millions of copies in print. Example, Awake magazine is a rich book and there is no country on this earth that does not have copies of it in circulation, it is also in as much languages as the Bible. It is not sold for profit.

Why then should a Pastor take pride that he has best seller books and tapes sold to Christians, that rakes in so much profit that can take care of PJs.

There is no fraudulent scheme that can be compared to this trending Prosperity Gospel. It is the greatest advanced- fee- fraud in human history.

EXCELLENT. The sad part is that even the socalled pastors they are defending know what they are doing. They know that they are in big business. Sad. Very sad.

atoleybaba:
did he own a ship?

Acquiring physical things wasn't part of His earthly ministry including marriage.

PrecisionFx:



Nope.
I am not an idol worshipper, Christians are the main idol worshippers around.

So, what did you worship?

shadeyinka:


I guess its also because we trust the MOGs more than the plain words of the scriptures. Hero worship at work there.

If they were heros that would hv been understandable. We are talking about religious fraudsters here who are deeply enmeshed in frivolities and vanities. Very sad. They said they were called, i think by the very god of this world. The apostle Paul, Aquila and Priscilia were all tent makers. They did that to care for their ministry. Acts 18:2, 3.

For lying and duping people in the name of God these so-called men of god stand to receive HEAVIER judgement. If only they know what is coming at them unless they repent thoroughly from their evil practices.

Themandator:



Bishop Oyedepo owns a jet because his schedule demands it and he has paid the price for it. ... Nigerians are not stupid or gullible but following their hearts .... You are not more intelligent or richer than those who made the jet possible. A stupid man is the one who tries to advice a rich man on wealth when he is yet to have personal proofs


As for your attempt at scripture, it is obvious you are one of these bulletin folks lacking any real biblical knowledge beyond the perfunctory homily of your leaders . For you information, Jesus always did as occasion demanded. He travelled in a convoy of ships when he needed , got a new brand horse when he needed it. Paid his tax when it was demanded , had a treasurer which you of today dint have even with your self evaluation of your sense of worth and better intelligence than winners members. Ordinary pillow that Hausa men sells was so important in Jesus times that it got a mention that he was sleeping with a pillow in the sleep.


When Jesus walked the earth he was limited by technology that he never visited Nigeria to preach the gospel. But when he was about to leave he said we will do greater works than he did. That work is not in quality for he was the only one with grace without measure . That greater works is in numbers .. winners, as a commission has covered more part of the world than Jesus did when he was alive on earth and it is possible because the founder has a means of movement that allows carry the gospel and anointing in comfort and timely ... He is not holding parties aboard those jets ... Pastors are sent on missions abroad every other day and they need to go and return on time

Sorry but you are the one that need sense and not the other way round . Jesus owned a house ... Read Matt 9:28 and his disciples weren't a collection of poor folks for when Jesus said it was easier for the camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to make heaven his disciples didn't leap for joy but were worried asking themselves who then would make heaven ... Everyone of them was worried until jesus pacified them

Finally, if your so called sense doesn't make your bank manager a personal friend that calls you by name because of worth to his or where branch financially, it is useless to you ... Join the gullible team

"" Nigerians are not stupid or gullible"" - Nigerians are extremely gullible people, especially the Christians .

Jesus never walked on earth as a Savior or as Christ, That's why the Hebrews never accepted him as a God till today, they know he's just a bloddy carpenters son n nothing more, he went about saying that he's the king of kings and that he's God, They warned him to stop saying such and he refused,then the Israelites killed him ...... Hebrews are still followers of Judaism and they are waiting for their Savior to come n die for their sins , Or do u think the people alive wen Jesus was born didn't know Mary was living in a mans house n got pregnant.. .


Matthew 9:28.

28 When he had gone indoors, the blind men came to him, and he asked them, “Do you believe that I am able to do this?”

“Yes, Lord,” they replied.

Only an idiot will read the above n conclude that Jesus owned a house .


U have absolutely no understanding of that phrase "eye of a needle".....In the olden times they live in cities surrounded with a very high wall and 1 or more big gates and at night the guards will close those gates. Merchants who come back late in the night wen the gate has been closed pass thru a small opening on the wall called ''eye of a needle" and due to how small that passage is, it's usually very difficult for a Camel(mode of transport in those times because the middle east is mainly a desert n there's very little water around and camels which need less water is preferred for transportation as against using horses).

So brow chill down n stop thinking that the eye of a needle being talked about was a camel and needle used for sowing clothes

Keneeby:


So, what did you worship?

I don't worship anything and mind u that it still doesn't mean I am an Atheist.