alBHAGDADI:
On this thread, you claim you are not a Muslim, so you went ahead to attack Christianity.

Later on, I noticed you were approving of pro-islamic comments on this same thread.

If your religion. is making you act this way, then such a religion. is really dangerous for you.

Al taquiya is equivalent to lies.


John 8:44


You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Oh shattap you small minded ignoramus. Little man with a little brain.

Which other name u wan use take pray again.

Some Questions though

See people quoting the Quran to suit their narratives. The same holy book they call devil's manual. Bipolar hypocrites

If the channel to God is through Jesus and whatever you ask God in the name of Jesus is granted then why is Jesus called Lord?

There can be only one Lord

Pick a struggle.

Yusman316:

But brother, do u know that they people that wrote the Bible never knew Jesus or his disciples. As the Bible was written like 300 years after prophet Jesus A.S ascended to heaven. When u ask some Christian faithfuls to reconcile this fact, they will claim the writers were inspired by holy spirit. If that is the case, couldn't a holy spirit equally could ve inspired prophet Muhammad S.A.W about the holy Qur'an? Hope u see the hippocracy in some people's reasoning. And another issue is some Christians always quoting the Qur'an out of context to support their arguments

Hey, stop peddling falsehood.

The Bible was not written 300 years after Jesus.

If so, how come Paul who wrote a huge portion of the New Testament walked with the disciples of Jesus Christ?

Or are you saying the disciples lived 300 years more?

Remember that Paul was persecuting the apostles shortly after Jesus ascended. So, that 300 years of yours are lies.

Al taquiya satanic liars

DeepSight:


The narrative does not say that Joseph did the deed. It alleges that God r.aped Mary.

I don't believe any part of the s.illy story by the way.

With regard to cross bearers I am referring to adherents of the Grail Message. I have a reason for asking that question. Some of them believe a Roman soldier was responsible.

How exactly did the narrative allege rape?

Geist:
How exactly did the narrative allege rape?

It is said that the Holy Spirit caused Mary to become pregnant.

Accordingly under christian teaching God r.aped Mary as he did not seek her consent.

DeepSight:


It is said that the Holy Spirit caused Mary to become pregnant.

Accordingly under christian teaching God r.aped Mary as he did not seek her consent.

Is that your definition of rape? The Bible clearly said an Angel of the Lord appeared to Mary to inform her and her reply if I remember correctly was "Let it be done to me according to his(God) will". Not sure how exactly it then qualifies as rape. Please explain

adamzinat:
d reason iz dat u hv no common sense bcuz jesus is only a prophet like me and u.may d almighty GOD guide u and leads u to d straight path.

Thank you sir; the Truth is what I have mentioned.

alBHAGDADI:
Hey, stop peddling falsehood.

The Bible was not written 300 years after Jesus.

If so, how come Paul who wrote a huge portion of the New Testament walked with the disciples of Jesus Christ?

Or are you saying the disciples lived 300 years more?

Remember that Paul was persecuting the apostles shortly after Jesus ascended. So, that 300 years of yours are lies.

Al taquiya satanic liars

Guy first of all no be fight. Go and make inquiry, the book of Paul was not written by Paul. Or any of the books attributed to the names they re called. I ve heard of this issue from scholars of Islam, Christianity & other persuasion. Brother google is close to u or youtube

Becos jesus is the onlyway to God heaven..Any oda way is a scam from the pit of hell

Yusman316:

Guy first of all no be fight. Go and make inquiry, the book of Paul was not written by Paul. Or any of the books attributed to the names they re called. I ve heard of this issue from scholars of Islam, Christianity & other persuasion. Brother google is close to u or youtube

You sound like you are not informed of what you are arguing about. Who told you books were named after Paul?

Paul wrote several new testament books e.g Romans, Acts, Thessalonians, Ephesians, Corinthians, Galatians, Philippians etc.

So you have no argument here.

All ye atheist God loves you all I pray the scales will fall of y'all eyes & you will believe in God because no matter what you say or do he is still SUPREME overall....


We don't force you to believe just open your inner eyes & see that he truly loves y'all


Above all the love of God supersedes all

Auki:
Pray only to God not Jesus. He who created Jesus and you.

Praying to Jesus or in Jesus name are the prayers unanswered.

And on the day of judgement you will be one of the greatest loser, hell will be the abode.

Sorry, Jesus was not created. He is God(John 1 vs 1-3). He only came to earth in a human form and was born(John 1 vs 10). He existed ever before then.

Geist:
Is that your definition of rape? The Bible clearly said an Angel of the Lord appeared to Mary to inform her and her reply if I remember correctly was "Let it be done to me according to his(God) will". Not sure how exactly it then qualifies as rape. Please explain

If you read the passage carefully you will note that Mary was not given a choice. It was a command and she answered as a servant.

The same way a servant would answer her master who commands her to have s.ex. Compliance is instant and compulsory and not a matter of choice.

The words of the Angel did not request permission. They laid down a decree of what was going to happen, no questions asked.

Read Luke 1 again.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+1

Now having said that I am actually speaking light heartedly so don't take me too seriously. I personally regard the story as a myth. There are many such virgin birth myths in antiquity. The myth about Jesus is not the only one.

alBHAGDADI:
You sound like you are not informed of what you are arguing about. Who told you books were named after Paul?

Paul wrote several new testament books e.g Romans, Acts, Thessalonians, Ephesians, Corinthians, Galatians, Philippians etc.

So you have no argument here.

Guy go do your home work. These books re attributed to him, but no one is actually sure he wrote all of them. Now the question is, if he didn't author some of these books, why re they carrying his name as the author? And what does that tell u about the authorship of the other books.

Because he his the link between humanity and God....


And that came to be when he died on the cross of Calvary.

Reading through made me weep for those of u who do not have christ in their lives. Jesus said "i'm THE way, THE truth and life" there is NO other way and that u dont believe it is inconsequential. I always tell people "that u do not believe in the law of gravity doesnt make it not to be in existence" jump from a cliff and see wat happens. Jesus is real and He is coming back again. The beautiful thing is that He loves u so much and He's patiently waiting for this good news to reach every nation. So that u wil be left with no excuse. He died for you, why not accept Him as ur Lord and Saviour...say this:
Lord God I come to you in the name of Jesus, ur word says that if I believe that Jesus died for me and was raised for my sake, that I will be saved. Therefore I believe in my heart and I confess with my mouth that Jesus died for my sins and was raised for my justification. I accept Him into my life as my Lord and Saviour. I declare that i'm born again, old this has passed away and all things has become new. I am a new creature...Amen!

specco:


Sorry, Jesus was not created. He is God(John 1 vs 1-3). He only came to earth in a human form and was born(John 1 vs 10). He existed ever before then.

Please excuse my lack of knowledge on this issue. Please do explain to me, why in the first place does God need to come to the world in human form. When He can simply be anywhere in any form and do as he pleased. Because if u want to tell me God has to come down Himself before His message is heard or accepted, then there is something wrong

aujile:
Reading through made me weep for those of u who do not have christ in their lives. Jesus said "i'm THE way, THE truth and life" there is NO other way and that u dont believe it is inconsequential. I always tell people "that u do not believe in the law of gravity doesnt make it not to be in existence" jump from a cliff and see wat happens. Jesus is real and He is coming back again. The beautiful thing is that He loves u so much and He's patiently waiting for this good news to reach every nation. So that u wil be left with no excuse. He died for you, why not accept Him as ur Lord and Saviour...say this:
Lord God I come to you in the name of Jesus, ur word says that if I believe that Jesus died for me and was raised for my sake, that I will be saved. Therefore I believe in my heart and I confess with my mouth that Jesus died for my sins and was raised for my justification. I accept Him into my life as my Lord and Saviour. I declare that i'm born again, old this has passed away and all things has become new. I am a new creature...Amen!

And if i may ask u, who was the way, the life and the truth before Jesus came? Or re u saying people that lived before that time re destined for hell?

You don't pray to Jesus but you pray to God in the name of Jesus!

DeepSight:


The narrative does not say that Joseph did the deed. It alleges that God r.aped Mary.

I don't believe any part of the s.illy story by the way.

With regard to cross bearers I am referring to adherents of the Grail Message. I have a reason for asking that question. Some of them believe a Roman soldier was responsible.

Yes, the narrative didnt say it was Joseph, But the people in Israel never knew how any of that super story happened, they simply knew that mary n Joseph lived in the same house and they had a child, nothing more.

I talked about Jesus being an Italian based on the fact that the Bible was written under the rulership of the Roman empire.

alBHAGDADI:
Pure lies.

The only man God had a relationship in the time of Abraham was Abraham himself. Other nations were pagan worshippers who follow and worshipped Satan and his fallen angels. God pulled Abraham away from them and promised to use him to reconcile mankind back to himself. That's why He told him that through his seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed.

Since then, God sent several prophets to earth but to the children of Israel alone. He never sent any messenger to other nations. Those nations were deeply immersed in satanic worship e.g Egypt, Babylon, Assyria, Greece etc. Those ones had their god's e.g Athena, ra, Zeus etc.

All the prophets God sent were only to Israel and they used his name Yahweh. They all spoke of a Messiah who will redeem all mankind to God and away from Satan's grip.

Those prophecies were fulfilled in Jesus. He was sent to die for the redemption of mankind. After his resurrection, he mandated his followers to preach the good news in all NATIONS, not Israel alone.

If your Quran states that 1000 messengers were sent to earth, why did t it give their names and the nation's they were sent to? Why is such not recorded in the Bible? Like you mentioned Orunmila, such could be one of the messengers. Checking their music operandi, you will see that it is similar to Satan and his fallen Angela's tactics. All those Zeus, Athena, bhudah, sango, amadioha, are all fallen angels who settled in different regions and nations where they were worshipped in form of idols. Are those the messengers your Allah sent?

Before Jesus Christ, nobody was the way. Mankind was in darkness. Not even Moses or other prophets were the way. If so, show me where they said such. Now you are claiming that Mohammad is the way to God for the people of our time. That's a lie.

Mohammad was quoted as saying that he doesn't know what will happen to him or to Muslims on judgment day. How can you claim such a man is the way when he stated it that he doesn't know?


Surah 46:9
Say: "I am no bringer of new-fangled doctrine among the messengers, nor do i know what will be done with me or with you . I follow but that which is revealed to me by inspiration; I am but a Warner open and clear."

that's a lie, pure lie. saying no messenger was sent to the world before Jesus is a lie. Allah says in the Quran "there had been no nation, except a messenger was sent to them" I don't know history much but you know, Noah was the way the truth and the life to his people, during his time and he was a messenger, and I'm sure thousand others, Moses was a messenger too.


now saying Muhammad was quoted to have said that is fable. Muhammad didn't speak in the Quran. as you read God said to him. "Qul" meaning "say" God told him to SAY not he himself. and every messenger of God like Jesus act based on order giving by Allah(God)

Yusman316:

And if i may ask u, who was the way, the life and the truth before Jesus came? Or re u saying people that lived before that time re destined for hell?

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You are arguing everywhere.
There is nothing I wil tell u that you will accept...I will only be praying for you and one that Jesus will reveal Himself to u. It wil not be the first time it wil happen neither wil it be the last time. Jesus loves you personally.

aujile:
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You are arguing everywhere.
There is nothing I wil tell u that you will accept...I will only be praying for you and one that Jesus will reveal Himself to u. It wil not be the first time it wil happen neither wil it be the last time. Jesus loves you personally.

Guy i know the teachings of Jesus A.S. I'm just asking for clarification on some issues

GodDeyCraze:
Because Jesus had no biological father(Bastard)

In fact the answer is in... John 14 vs 6

My brother go and ask God for forgiveness...

DeepSight:


If you read the passage carefully you will note that Mary was not given a choice. It was a command and she answered as a servant.

The same way a servant would answer her master who commands her to have s.ex. Compliance is instant and compulsory and not a matter of choice.

The words of the Angel did not request permission. They laid down a decree of what was going to happen, no questions asked.

Read Luke 1 again.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+1

Now having said that I am actually speaking light heartedly so don't take me too seriously. I personally regard the story as a myth. There are many such virgin birth myths in antiquity. The myth about Jesus is not the only one.

Lol, is this the same way you would argue that a soldier who just answered Yes Sir to the instructions of his superiors minutes before getting killed in a warfare was actually forced and coerced to obey instructions which eventually killed him?

adamzinat:
d reason iz dat u hv no common sense bcuz jesus is just a prophet and human being like u and me.may d almighty GOD guide u and leads u to d straight path.

Tsk, actually you are the most dumbest person have ever come across in my whole life,
well, everyday i use to hear the mosque around my house when praying saying "wo ola anabi wa Muhammad" during there prayer, wait or did you need your yoruba Muslim to translate that for you. So dumb, slave of nature.

that's because God gave him Authority and a name that is above every other name..both in heaven and on earth.the bible records that in Philippians 2:8-10



wouldn't you rather pray in a name that is exceedingly potent than every other name?

Geist:

Lol, is this the same way you would argue that a soldier who just answered Yes Sir to the instructions of his superiors minutes before getting killed in a warfare was actually forced and coerced to obey instructions which eventually killed him?

Go and read the passage and tell me if Mary had a choice.

An Omnipotent power spoke a decree to her. That power did not negotiate with her or seek her permission.

At all events remember I am not seriously concerned with this topic. I regard it as a myth. Just fooling around in this thread bro. Bored.

Because Jesus said: I am the Way, the Truth and Life, and that No one comes through the Father (God) except through me!!

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GOD IS SATISFIED WITH HIS WORKS

And God saw everything that he had made, and behold it was very good (Gen. 1:31)

GOD IS DISATISFIED WITH HIS WORKS

And it repented the lord that he had made men on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart (Gen. 6:6)


GOD DWELLS IN CHOSEN TEMPLES

And the lord appeared to Solomon by night, and said unto him: I have heard thy prayer, and have chosen this place to myself for a house of sacrifice, For now have I chosen and sanctified this house, that my name may be there forever; and mine eyes and my heart shall be there perpetually. (2 Chron. 7:12, 16.)

GOD DWELLS NOT IN TEMPLES

Howbeit the Most Hight dwelleth not in temples made with hands. (Acts 7:48.)


GOD DWELLS IN THE LIGHT

Dwelling in light which no man can approach unto (1 Tim 6:16.)

GOD DWELLS IN DARKNESS

The Lord said he would dwell in thick darkness . (1 Kings 8:12)
He made darkness his secret place. (Ps. 18:11.)
Clouds and darkness are round about him. (Ps. 97:2)

GOD IS SEEN AND HEARD

And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts. (Ex. 33:23.)
And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as man speaketh to his friend. (Ex. 33:11)
And the Lord called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid. (Gen. 3:9, 10.)
For I have seen God face to face , and my life is preserved.(Gen. 32:30.)
In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw, also, the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up. (Is. 6:1.)
Then went up mose and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel. And they Saw the God of Israel, They saw God and did eat and drink. (ex. 24:9, 10, 11)

GOD IS INVISIBLE AND CANNOT BE HEARD

No man hath seen God at any time. (John. 1:18.)
Ye hath neither heard his voice, at any time, nor seen his shape. (John 5:37.)
And he said, Thou canst not see my face, for there shall no man see me and live. (Ex. 33:20)
Whom no man hath seen nor can see (1 Tim. 6:16.)

atarapa:
because at the mention of the name( JESUS) everything will bow.

ok in whose name Jesus bow