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. by Jabodo(m): 8:04am On Nov 05, 2017 |
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Re: . by psucc(m): 8:24am On Nov 05, 2017 |
Op do you believe that water is made up of hydrogen and oxygen? Can you separate and keep these constituents apart? If you believe the first question but cannot practice the later then you're lost somewhat. There is a God who created heavens and the earth and the fullness thereof. And the Bible concludes that "the fool says there is no God". |
Re: . by orisa37: 8:40am On Nov 05, 2017 |
God is Right. No Contradictions about Him. It's The Light in you that is dim. |
Re: . by Jabodo(m): 12:19pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
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Re: . by Jabodo(m): 12:21pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
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Re: . by Nobody: 1:15pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Jabodo: But then Einstein did state that “God does not play dice with the universe” he understood better than most that there was an order to the nature of things. I do not necessarily believe in a creator God after-all we observe new worlds being formed everyday but I believe in a consciousness, let us call it a super-consciousness that permeates all fathomable existence, this is evidenced by mundane phenomena such as the gravitational effects of the moon for instance on our lives. Rationalisation being Man’s only inherent genius, our attempts at understanding our reason to be and Man’s relationship to the universe in the grand scheme of things, in my view is what gave rise to religion. I believe religion in turn is what has led to the personification of what I refer to as the Divine consciousness….. as God. 1 Like |
Re: . by MrMystrO(m): 2:50pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Sarassin: Couldn't Have Put it Better. Well Said. 1 Like |
Re: . by MuttleyLaff: 7:53pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Sarassin:Einstein understood that the universe and of course, we included, are expressions of God Sarassin:This is like saying: I do not necessarily believe in a Nairaland creator god, after-all we observe new worlds being created and formed everyday on Nairaland.. The Nairaland creator god, created Nairaland, saw everything was good and then rested Posters not only create and form new worlds everyday on Nairaland but posters also god everyday on Nairaland If its believed a Nairaland creator god, allows, albeit controlled plus within parameters, creation and power or influence (i.e. god) every moment, then what's the hinder believing in a creator God, considering that without, we wont be observing new worlds being formed everyday? Sarassin:Does this consciousness not possess influence and power? So means you believe in a consciousness that possesses influence and power? Sarassin:Calling it "super-consciousness" is not an exaggeration or hyperbolical expression of praise so consciousness, qualitatively improved to super-consciousness, is a welcome and good step forward. I agree with you that no one can fathom what this super-consciousness (i.e. God) has done from beginning to end of time We can't see the whole scope of the super-consciousness/God's work from beginning to end. Sarassin:If so, then why dont you believe in a power or influence, which essentially and effectively, is what God aka El means (i.e. super-consciousness) which essentially and effectively, is what god, aka el means In the Canaanite and Ugaritic pantheons, El, is the special name or title ascribed to a particular super-consciousness (i.e. "the god" ![]() who is distinguished from their other super-consciousnesses (i.e. gods) There are other peculiar gods (i.e. powers or influences) we can relate to Strange as it might seem, some people do let their stomach or belly be their god, and so rather serve etctera their own belly. People let alcohol be their god, and so come under its power and influence People let fellow others be their god, and come under their manipulations, power and influence People let drugs be their god, and come under its control, power and influence You and I know that, Canaanite and Ugaritic pantheons accepts El's role as father of the gods (i.e. powers or influences) So, isnt it evident, El is the "creator God" behind the creation of mundane phenomena such as the gravitational effects of the moon for instance on our lives? Sarassin:The travesty is that most people are prone to self-deceptive rationalisation Sarassin:"our reason to be" is a no brainer It doesnt take a genius to understand that man’s lack of relationship with the super-consciousness gave rise to religion When man's relationship with the super-consciousness took a turn for the worse, religion, waiting in the wings, welcomed man with open arms What in your context, is religion? I guess you mean, become and being institutionalized? There you are then. Seared conscience, is what gave rise to religion Sarassin:Material reality is an attribute of The Divine Consciousness; God just as there are other non material realities which also belong to The Divine Consciousness; God Anthropomorphism, theophany and/or personification of The Divine Consciousness, started before religion crept in to see the light of day. Unarguably and without any questioning, The Divine Consciousness is God and this, The Divine Consciousness, whom you have reverence for, actually is and/or can be a personal providential God |
Re: . by Nobody: 9:26pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff: Einstein was agnostic but I accept the above statement. MuttleyLaff: If I concede for the sake of argument that God created the universe, then I am persuaded that similarly God put his feet up, reclined in his hammock, lit up a cigar and abandoned the universe to random evolutionary process. In which case it is not a perfect world. The question then remains, who created the creator? MuttleyLaff: Clearly there are forces at work in the universe. What we term ‘influence’ and ‘power’ would be inherent attributes of this super-consciousness as would creative and destructive forces. MuttleyLaff: As I wrote above, I fully believe that there are forces at work in the universe, but I believe that Man’s rationalisation and personalisation of his understanding of God is intrinsically flawed because it is evolutionary in nature, our understanding of the nature of things completely changes every hundred years or so, and now, even less. In my view it is beyond Man to establish the primacy of his deity or God, why? Because a personalised supreme creator God is no longer the absolute certainty that it was say 500 years ago. I accept the concept of El of the Canaanite pantheon as a God-King, even as it translates into the supreme deities of other cultures, i.e the Hindu Trimurti of Vishnu, Brahma and Shiva who are responsible for the creation, existence and destruction of the universe. These are personalised aspects of the Divine consciousness. The travesty is that most people are prone to self-deceptive rationalisation That is a great shame indeed. What in your context, is religion? I guess you mean, become and being institutionalized? There you are then. Seared conscience, is what gave rise to religion I define religion as the creation and worship of a deity by common consent. Perhaps it was better for Man to have lost his connection to super-consciousness…and then sought it as opposed to finding solace in the suffocating and mind-numbing arms of religion. Material reality is an attribute of The Divine Consciousness; God Great statement. We are in agreement up to a point, I say that the Divine consciousness or perhaps even the Demiurge is impersonal and can be whatever we wish it to be within its own defined parameters of universal survival except that typically Man has chosen the path of least resistance and cast God in his own image. |
Re: . by MuttleyLaff: 9:54pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Sarassin:Are you 99.999% sure Einstein was agnostic? Sarassin: ![]() ![]() ![]() C'mon now. Abandoned the universe to random evolutionary process? Really? Macro, possibly, to any extent, crossed your mind? Sarassin:Don't fret over a perfect world, as it would happen in sequence and in due course Sarassin:The question is an invalid one because the super-consciousness (i.e. God) is an uncreated Self Existing creator. Sarassin:So you believe the super-consciousness (i.e. God) possesses capabilities on par with being creative and destructive forces and accept and associate, El, aka the super-consciousness (i.e. God) with power then? |
Re: . by Nobody: 10:14pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff: Well as far as my memory serves me, I might drop it by 0.0001% MuttleyLaff: Sure, but if the creator God willed the sun into existence imminently, why wait a thousand years for a microbe? MuttleyLaff: Sure, but you said “God saw that world was perfect”, are you rowing back from that position? MuttleyLaff: ![]() ![]() ![]() MuttleyLaff: I accept that the depictions of ancient Canaanite pantheon reflected their limited knowledge of Divine nature as much as that of the Hindu Triumvirate and others, my point was that they are limited in nature, as they must be. |
Re: . by MuttleyLaff: 11:56pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Sarassin: ![]() ![]() ![]() Einstein believed in God albeit not a personal God Sarassin:Suggested macro earlier so how about, the wait is due to how the algorithm was written? Sarassin:No, not rowing back from the "God saw that everything He created or made was good" position If your memory serves you, you'll recall that unlike each preceeding creation declared good, the good noun or adjective wasnt used for man I bet you know why? Sarassin:Yes, affirmatively saying so and you know I said so because there isnt any valid logic lying underneath nor standing behind the question Sarassin:Good but Re: "influence’ and ‘power’ would be inherent attributes of this super-consciousness as would creative and destructive forces"" I was giving information that the "this super-consciousness" is God, otherwise also known as El |
Re: . by OtemSapien: 1:15am On Nov 06, 2017 |
OP, what people are experiencing are the gods and not God Almighty. I for one experienced the god called Atum and he gave me this https://www.nairaland.com/2938907/doctrine-ufos Others in the past have experienced Yahweh, Ra, Allah, Baal, Ekron, Mazda, Moloch, Vishnu, etc and they have given them something. That's why the experiences we share are different. Many of these gods are the author of the world confusion today, rather than simply telling their messenger that they are not actually the uncreated creator, they go ahead to say that they are. Then they give their philosophy to their messengers as the word of God. You can know a true and unbiased philosophy if its content isn't about worshipping the giver of it or if the god who gives it doesn't claim to be God Almighty, the first cause and that's what the DOCTUFOS of Truth, the history book of the world and the universe has brought to humanity today. |
Re: . by Nobody: 2:05am On Nov 06, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff: I will stick to my original premise that is random evolutionary process. MuttleyLaff:Well of course, Man was ascribed freewill and that in itself precludes the possibility of perfection i.e the ability of Man to reject God’s dominion. Nevertheless we have to assume that God, if he created anything at all, created all perfect otherwise what is the point of God as a creator of imperfection? MuttleyLaff:An “un-created self-existing creator” is an oxymoron. MuttleyLaff: I believe that the super-consciousness is the Divine. The Demiurge (the longing of life for itself inherent in each of us) is the creative and destructive aspect of the Divine. Mankind will continue to personify their aspects and attributes until it knows better. |
Re: . by ScienceWatch: 12:47pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
orisa37:Absolutely true. Stay blessed Sir. |
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