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Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by InvertedHammer: 1:15pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
nNEOo: Adeboye is not interested in clearing the air. His interest is not in the bible. He is more interested in the pecuniary gain from milking hapless and helpless ignoramuses. It is all about the money! / |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by Ravenbeast1(m): 1:15pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by coolqayy(m): 1:15pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
wise up..... With all these comments daddy freeze is winning,he helps people burst out the questions they cant i think jah is involved!!! 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by PointZerom: 1:17pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
MichaelBlake40: There were other legitimate uses for owning alcohol, namely for cooking, healing (cf. Luke 10:34 ), and pain-killing. 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by Oziegbe2Reginal(m): 1:18pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
THINKING ABOUT TITHE PAYMENT TODAY The entire Christian community is constantly reminded of Malachi 3:10 and warned seriously of the grave dangers of not paying tithes to the man of God or the church depending on where the speaker wants to put emphasis on. Some religious groups that before now latently discussed tithe are gradually bringing it to the front burner. Her members are reminded to bring their tithes so that the church will grow. Beyond these discussing, an average Christian ought to know exactly what the word of God says. POINT 1 Abraham paid tithe voluntarily even before the law of tithing was given. Gen 14:20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all POINT 2 When the law of tithing was finally given, four different types of tithes existed and were designed to serve different purposes. Type 1 – General purpose tithe given by the tithe payer specifically to the levites who were empowered to collect tithes by the lord. Num 18:26 Thus speak unto the Levites, and say unto them, When ye take of the children of Israel the tithes which I have given you from them for your inheritance, then ye shall offer up an heave offering of it for the LORD, even a tenth part of the tithe. Lev 27:30 And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD'S: it is holy unto the LORD. Lev 27:32 And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD. Type 2- Tithe of Tithes. Inside the levites existed the family of Aaron which produced the priests. After collecting the tithes from the tithe payers(Israelites), the levites were directed by God to take a tenth of it (tithe) and give to the family of Aaron. Neh 10:38 And the priest the son of Aaron shall be with the Levites, when the Levites take tithes: and the Levites shall bring up the tithe of the tithes unto the house of our God, to the chambers, into the treasure house. Type 3 – Personally consumed tithe. God designed that yearly a tithe payer should enjoy himself from his proceeds. But he must do this only at Jerusalem himself and his entire family. Deu 14:22 ¶ Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. Deu 14:23 And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always. There was a clause here concerning money. Deu 14:24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee: 25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose: 26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household Type 4 – tithe for the orphans, less privileged, strangers and widows. Deu 14:28 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: 29 And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest. Deu 26:12 ¶ When thou hast made an end of tithing all the tithes of thine increase the third year, which is the year of tithing, and hast given it unto the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, that they may eat within thy gates, and be filled; The tithe payer here is to say a special prayer designed by God. Deu 26:13 Then thou shalt say before the LORD thy God, I have brought away the hallowed things out of mine house, and also have given them unto the Levite, and unto the stranger, to the fatherless, and to the widow, according to all thy commandments which thou hast commanded me: I have not transgressed thy commandments, neither have I forgotten them: 14 I have not eaten thereof in my mourning, neither have I taken away ought thereof for any unclean use, nor given ought thereof for the dead: but I have hearkened to the voice of the LORD my God, and have done according to all that thou hast commanded me. 15 Look down from thy holy habitation, from heaven, and bless thy people Israel, and the land which thou hast given us, as thou swarest unto our fathers, a land that floweth with milk and honey POINT 3 Look at these passages below and you will agree all of the discussion on tithes has nothing to do with money, even though money was in circulation at that time. Deu 12:17 Thou mayest not eat within thy gates the tithe of thy corn, or of thy wine, or of thy oil, or the firstlings of thy herds or of thy flock, nor any of thy vows which thou vowest, nor thy freewill offerings, or heave offering of thine hand: Deu 14:22 ¶ Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. Lev 27:30 And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD'S: it is holy unto the LORD. Lev 27:32 And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD. Neh 13:12 Then brought all Judah the tithe of the corn and the new wine and the oil unto the treasuries. From the foregoing, it would not be difficult for the reader to appreciate why God was not happy with the people of Israel for robbing him. Those being addressed in Mal 3:8-10 understood God better and could appreciate his concern. Mal 3:8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. 9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. 10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. POINT 5 Christ came and lived under the law Gal 4:4 but frown at the methodology of the tithe collection and the undue emphasis placed on it payment by the Pharisees of his days. Mt 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Lu 11:42 But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. A man even boasted about his regularity in tithe payment while Christ was on earth. Luk 18:12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess An interesting point here is that Christ lived under the Old Covenant and the church today operates under the New Covenant. Heb 7:11 ¶ If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? 12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. Stating from the beginning of the Church until recently,(precisely in the 1500s), the church had existed without Christian paying tithes. Two major reasons could be fetched out. 1. The church is for the whole world and a practice given to a single nation operating an agrarian economy could not be foist on all mankind. 2. Like circumcision, it had to die with Judaism. That old priesthood following the order of Aaron is replaced with a priesthood of all believers with Christ as our only high priest. 2Pet 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: Wait for just a minute • Tithe was not money in the Bible, today it is money. • Tithe was stored in a storehouse in the temple. Today it is stored in banks being held for the men of God. • The tithe payers then were not priest and gave to the priests. Today we are all priests and still give to senior priests. • The temple was a physical building and had a store house. Today we are the temple of the living God. • The church in the New Covenant is not the temple in the Old Covenant. The church is not a physical building. • The four ways tithe payers operated in the Old Covenant is sharply different from what is practiced today. • Paul was the most widely travelled missionary and would have enjoyed the benefit associated with tithes, yet he was completely silent about the issue. Christians today are to give for the growth and spread of God’s word. 1Cor 16:1 ¶ Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye. 2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. 2Cor 8:12 For if there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not. 2Cor 9:6 ¶ But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. 7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. Even the men of God were accommodated. Gal 6:6 Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things 1Cor 9:11 If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things? 1Cor 9:14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel The payment of tithes today by Christians is a mix up of God’s directives. Although the tithe payer may be thinking he is right in doing so, it still does not make it right. Although the tithe payer may be seeing results, the end does not justify the means if God does not give approval. There is no direct command to Christians to pay tithe to the church. The first century church did not pay tithes to the church. Act 2: 44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common; 45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. Act 4:34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, I pray this lesson will edify you and demand that you give to the lord beyond measure. Come and study with church of Christ near you for undiluted word of God taught as his word directs. Scripted by Mike Udam and powered by Evangelismportal2017 4 Likes |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by Nobody: 1:18pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Oildichotomy: Did freeze ask anyone for money? |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by MichaelBlake40: 1:18pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
booblacain:Yes and if mhizesther thinks that it's not her business she'll find out that she shares the society with such gullible ones. |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by Kendrick80(m): 1:23pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Smellymouth:10mins win 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by gare(f): 1:24pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
[quote author=Smellymouth post=62145887]Jeff Bozos (Amazon).. Atheist.. Steve Wozniak (Apple).. Atheist.. Larry Page (Google)... Buddhist.. Mark Zuckenberg (Facebook) Atheist.. Dangote (Dangote Group) Muslim.. Oprah Winfrey (TV Talkshow) Agonist.. Jack Ma (Alibaba) Deist.. Seun Osewa (nairaland) - Atheist.. None of these men/ women are Christains.... None of them pay tithes, yet some of them are billionaires .. None are cursed or in poverty. And they have greatly impacted the lives of humans all over the world... Most of the people saying "I will pay my tithe" they don't even go to church...Naiija and hypocrisy I hail Una.... [/quote A new study found that more than two-thirds of the world's millionaires are affiliated with a religion, with more than half identified as Christians. The study, from the nonpartisan wealth research firm New World Wealth, found that of the 13.1 million millionaires in the world, 7.4 million, or 56.2 percent, identify themselves as Christian when asked about their religion. Fully 6.5 percent of millionaires identified themselves as Muslim, 3.9 percent identified themselves as Hindu and 1.7 percent identified themselves as Jewish. 2 Likes |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by gare(f): 1:27pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
HeWrites: According to a study from 2015, Christians hold the largest amount of wealth (55% of the total world wealth), followed by Muslims (5.8%), Hindus (3.3%) and Jews (1.1%). According to the same study it was found that adherents under the classification Irreligion or other religions hold about 34.8% of the total global wealth.[3] A study done by the nonpartisan wealth research firm New World Wealth found that 56.2% of the 13.1 million millionaires in the world were Christians,[4] while 6.5% were Muslims, 3.9% were Hindu, and 1.7% were Jewish; 31.7% were identified as adherents of "other" religions or "not religious". 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by Henitan24(f): 1:28pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
coolqayy: Dude we don't pay tithe, our pastor has never... I mean never mentioned that word 'tithe' to our hearing before. We only pay offering which is just once on Sundays not even on weekly church program and no one cares to know the amount because we put it in the envelope. I can't count the number of times I saw people putting an empty envelops inside the offering basket. And all those amenities are still available for everyone. The only things he emphasis on is that we should of have too much of everything such as clothes, shoes, cars, etc. He makes sure that we bring what we think it is excess in our house to church monthly to give the needy. If you see the car he's driving you won't bliv that he's a professor and his wife have three doctorate certificate, they're lecturers in AUN (Atiku university in Yola). He's just too humble. |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by MichaelBlake40: 1:30pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
BestDataDeals:That was how the papacy in its hey days forbade the reading of the Bible by populace then and went after those who did and promoted the reading of the Bible e. g John Wycliffe,William Tyndall |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by Henitan24(f): 1:31pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
mhizsuzzy:Yola, Adamawa state .. |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by MichaelBlake40: 1:32pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Oziegbe2Reginal:Deep truth bro I'm feeling you. |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by MichaelBlake40: 1:33pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
PointZerom:Basically I'm not disputing that. |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by Youngsage: 1:36pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Larrey: you are a typical example of the type of Christians Freeze is trying to emancipate. How can you be sitting on the fence, and you are proud of it Neither here nor there.. SMH! Keep waiting for the pastors to explain more to you and your ilk... Keep waiting. Afterall, only they have the access to the Bible itself, and the anointing to study it personally. You have every right and ability to know what your pastor knows. Teach yourself, otherwise you will be thought rubbish. #FreeTheSheeple |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by Nobody: 1:38pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Eteriayaoba: Gbam!! Oya tell me how all the tithe been paid have influenced your life and the life of most Christians. I’m not here to discuss your faith or the lack of it but what I’m saying is that there are some things we need to question. we should not be too blinded by the said heavenly curse they always talk about concerning not paying tithe. Even one of my relative one time, took a loan and she still says she need to pay tithe from the loan ,, not because it’s easy for her to do so but because of the indoctrination that if she dosen’t Pay the tithe she might offend God and things may not go right for her anymore. I know religion is something unquestionable for now but in the future there might be crisis because the incoming generation will question a lot of things about religion both in Islam and Christianity.. there are lot of questions to be asked and lot of things to explain. 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by mhizsuzzy(f): 1:39pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Henitan24:K |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by Psoul(m): 1:41pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
FarahAideed: If you are gullible enough not to differentiate a real man of God from the fake ones, then "gullibly" pay your gullible tithe to the fake man. Why should it be our headache. Even without any Bible injunction mandating ppl to pay tithe, I will still pay. Making wealth is more or a natural law than divine law. Secret of making wealth is more dependent on ur sacrifices. You see most successful men making all manners of sacrifices to their gods and they don't go back to see what the attender of those gods do with the sacrificial items given to them. This is why most Christians are not as rich as they are supposed to be. No matter how big ur faith is, if u dont obey that natural law of wealth, u must remain stagnant. Ur success will only come with so much struggles and suffering. |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by EDIBLESS10: 1:42pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God..2 corin 4.. .Believers pls ignore dis guy is an accuser of d brethren.devil only manifest tru human and he's jst doing is responsibilty geniunely to his master(devil) |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by seunsodiende: 1:44pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Ha! Some people should fear God o. Let me come and be going. Meanwhile...Come and bless yourself with correct deals ahead of the holiday season. Jumia has the best prices everywhere! No kidding - http:///2zofUxz
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Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by indoorscholar(m): 1:45pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
layonke: Shut the hell up 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by Etuagievin(m): 1:46pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
freeaze is jobless. Yes, he is ,that's why we are all benefiting from his joblessness by getting to know the facts about tithing. But come to think of it, who is really jobless? The one who failed to look for credible means of making money and resort to hoodwinking the people,impoverishing them in the name of tithes or the one who sees these rubbish and courageously came out to enlighten people on this anomali? |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by FarahAideed: 1:47pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
[img][/img]i Psoul: Please tithing has nothing to do with wealth if not the car parks of all the churches in lagos wont be filled with toyota cars , if not lagos despite having over 22 million people can boast of only 5000 millionaires..I will only pay tithe to grow Christianity because i think its a better religion than Islam and not because I think it generates wealth |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by lovetruth(m): 1:48pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
if you say, "See, we did not know this," Does He not consider it who weighs the heart? And does He not know it who keeps your soul? And will He not render to man according to his work? Proverb 24:12 just to think of it to give ten percent for the development of church is a problem 4 u ahh human beings |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by Belafonte(m): 1:55pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
mhizesther: Come on, Es. You know as well as I do that churches preach tithe with threats of financial ruin and even disconnection from God. That is bullying and extortion. It would be helpful if Pastor Adeboye were to respond to Daddy Freeze. This matter needs to be settled once and for all. |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by skfa1: 1:56pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
In US and European Church, people are not forced with words to pay their tithe. It is up to you!!! It is good to pay tithe and it should be used rightly in Gods way! Also, if you don't pay your tithe, you will not be cursed because God has sent his son to die for our sins and redeem us from any curse,tight and bondage! But then, what is needed to be done, needs to be done,pay your tithe. |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by Iamtipsyy(m): 2:04pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Smellymouth:ur slip go cut. 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by brainy02: 2:21pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
donblade85555: And you are aimless! |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by SucezYiz: 2:24pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
plz dont make mention of mosque here....@abudu2000 |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by SirMichael1: 2:43pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Henitan24: Lmao... Why won't it be obvious when it's obvious that you guys are chilling?? Snacks?? Drinks?? Common?!! |
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Pastor Adeboye’s Response To His Teachings On Tithing by Geesaintagape: 2:45pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
God has chosen Freeze to lead the youths out of captivity n brabrainwashing . May God bless n keep u Freeze |
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