BluntBoy:


If Abraham was/is your model, then, answer these questions:

1. What did Abraham tithe?

Were they his personal properties, an increase in his personal properties or war booty?

2. Did Abraham continue tithing? Did he make tithing a practice or a custom?

3. Who is Melchizedek?

Can you compare his priesthood to that of any man? If you can, provide the name of that priest or prophet whose priesthood makes him liable to collect tithe without being a levite?

Thank you.

Abraham settled Omoonile

ONCE!!

Zeek21:
Maybe someone should go read Luke 11vs 42 and see Jesus response to the Pharisees.

Now we truly know who this Freeze is, advocating that tithe should be used for alcohol? SMH.
He is just a demon advocating for the kingdom of hell.

Advocating??

Did he advocate ? That is not true

Why LIE ?? just to score points?

He merely said what the bible said without saying buy or don't buy alcohol.

No where did he "ADVOCATE"

Please supply a quote where he did the advocating

Larrey:
Hmm. I pay my tithe and Not supporting or opposing daddy freeze, but the pastors should explain more to us about tithe with Bible verses.

Its OK if you decide to pay tithe. But just be assured that tithe is not a christian teaching, it was designed to service the levitical priesthood who works in a temple Christ destroyed and built up in 3days with the establishment of the new Christian congregation in Pentecost 33 CE. Tithe, Sabbath etc were all part of the law that fulfilled in Christ Gal 3: 23 & 24. Principles of Christian giving is clear @ 2Cor 9:7 ... Not under compulsion. Tithe is compulsory because it had to be 10%

Gotze1:
And do they put gun into their heads to pay the tight?

Yes, their tactics is more than gun flinging..

Pastors use scare tactics n spiritual blackmail to coerce followers to pay tithe.

Pastors will tell their foolish mugus to bring 10% of their earnings(Into the pastors bank account ) or else God will send the devourers to decimate their source of income, that they are stealing from God.
The funny thing is that the Malachi 3 vs 8 - 10 the pastors use for their threat is actually a warning from God to the pastors about not paying upto 10% of the tithe they receive. Every thing about Tithe rules n regulations is in the books of the law and that is Deuteronomy. God said tithes is for widows, orphans,motherless, fatherless poor people, foreigners who have no land. Deuteronomy 14 vs 28 and Deuteronomy 26 be 12.

(some pastors even tell students that have no source of employment to pay tithes or else.............Idiots)

lalanice:
you didnt hear mark zuckerberg declared he was nolonger an atheist?

He never declared being a theist either.
He is not a christian, neither does he pay tithes.
Therefore the post still stands.

ivolt:


He never declared bein a theist either.
He is not a christian, neither does he pay tithes.
Therefore the post still stands.

nawa oo...atheists body jst dey pepper una .......anyway keep reading I already replied your colleague.

nautieonline:

She's very correct, imagine if God asked you how you have spent the money He has given you the grace to have? "Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver." She gives to God in faith. Go and read Leviticus and you will find out the priest managed the sacrifices made to God, "THEY TAKE OUT THEIR PORTION FOR FOOD!!!" but God honours whatever the sacrifices were meant for, whether Guilt offering, sin offering or thanksgiving, God honoured. So bother not yourself about how your tithe is being spent, IT IS ORIGINALLY MEANT FOR THOSE WORKING IN THE TEMPLE". God bless you.


www.nautieonline.com

So who is working in the temple now, uncle?

Smellymouth:
Merrybet odds--

Daddy Freeze to win -- 1.28..

Tithers to win -- 2.20..

Full time draw-- 3.80..

As for me I dey carry daddy freeze straight win home and away, home to win first and second half and over 2.5..

guy u are the king of meme.. pls can you help me with that that white kid meme that's say "yen yen yen yen" a kind of telling someone that they are blabbing while raising hands up

aribisala0:


Abraham settled Omoonile

ONCE!!

My brother, I don't know how else we can free these people. We have shown them Biblical verses but they would rather follow their pastors than even make an attempt to search for the truth themselves.

Stealing, stealing, stealing,
Stealing, stealing.
Stealing in the name of the Lord.

My father's house of worship,
Has become a den of thieves;
Stealing in the name of the Lord.

They fed our mothers with sour grapes,
And set our teeth on edge;
Stealing in the name of the Lord.

Strike the hammer of justice,
And set my people free,
Strike the hammer of justice,
Or let my people be.

They tell us of a heaven,
Where milk and honey flow;
Stealing in the name of the Lord.

They said this place called heaven;
The rich man cannot go.
Stealing in the name of the Lord.

Yet the reverend drives a fancy car,
Buys everything tax-free,
The people have to sacrifice;
To give in charity.

My father's house of worship,
Has become a den of thieves;
Stealing in the name of the Lord.

(..)

Stealing, stealing, stealing,
Stealing, stealing.
Stealing in the name of the Lord.

Stealing, stealing, stealing,
Stealing, stealing.
Stealing in the name of the Lord.

....Thanks Max Romeo

FarahAideed:
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Please tithing has nothing to do with wealth if not the car parks of all the churches in lagos wont be filled with toyota cars , if not lagos despite having over 22 million people can boast of only 5000 millionaires..I will only pay tithe to grow Christianity because i think its a better religion than Islam and not because I think it generates wealth

U only see material things as wealth?
That is our problem. My brother, buying exotic cars, feeding well are not the only definition for wealth and success.
Wealth has many facets of it.

Psoul:


U only see material things as wealth?
That is our problem. My brother, buying exotic cars, feeding well are not the only definition for wealth and success.
Wealth has many facets of it.

True ..I see you are woke , so can you tell why churches value only money and material things as the best currency for tithe

R2bees:
guy u are the king of meme.. pls can you help me with that that white kid meme that's say "yen yen yen yen" a kind of telling someone that they are blabbing while raising hands up

Evening boss.
Is it this one?

They shouldn't kill this man, he is really given them tithe preachers sleepless nights.

Every word he says he backs it up biblically but the magicians will just make sweeping comments without foundation in the Bible.

Smellymouth:

Evening boss. Is it this one?

Wow... you are the greatest!!

Its just painful that in this part of the world, we refuse to question a lot of things and seek truth. It's easy to win an argument where facts are available all you need to do is point people to the Truth.
Same reason we refuse to research and seek to develop. Everything is the devil. We refuse to even acknowledge that there are natural laws in life that irrespective of your religion race or gender will always apply.

The Bible is the final authority in matters like these and much more. As much as the Berean Christians respected Apostle Paul, they still checked with the Bible to be sure that those things taughtvare true.

This is what we should do as Christians. Seek the Truth for yourself. Read and check with your Bible. Ask God to reveal the truth to you and youbwont need anybody to tell you what is right or wrong.

We will remain backward if we refuse to seek knowledge. God is very ready to help us the moment we begin to use our brains and help ourselves whilst asking him for His guidance.

That's why the Bible says "faith without works( a corresponding action) is dead.

My humble submission.

BluntBoy:


A nonbeliever?

You are a terrible Christian. Please, if you can't answer simple questions, just keep your peace. Calling people unbelievers simply because you can't answer their questions makes you come across as a person using arrogance to cover up his inadequacies. It is like someone resorting to anger when reasons have failed them.

Ok

FREEZE IS PREACHING THE GOSPEL... I AM WITH YOU AND ABOVE ALL GOD IS WITH YOU...

R2bees:
Wow... you are the greatest!!

Thanks you saah

lalanice:
nawa oo...atheists body jst dey pepper una .......anyway keep reading I already replied your colleague.

Not really, I am allergic to deception often deployed by believers.

BluntBoy:
Sadly, Freeze cannot win this battle. The Bible already said it.

The antichrists (Oyedepo, Adeboye and many others) will/have come to lead many astray with their own versions of the Word. Christ's children are witnesses to the Good News, the false teachers are witnesses to their own methods of trading money for God's wealth. They teach their followers to buy God's love and blessings with mere money.

Narrow is the Way to Eternal Life and that is the Way that Freeze teaches. But broad is the way to destruction (the way many Christians have chosen).

These false teachers have shut their hearts to heaven and like the Pharisees, they will not let others make heaven. They pervert the gospel for pecuniary gains and build mansions in the pretence of building a house for God when God was clear that the body is what should be built since it is His temple. Jesus tore down Man-made temples but these false teachers are building them up and filling them up with gullible Christians who like babies cannot tell right from the left.

God bless you, Freeze. A Reformation of the Church will come. When the Church would return to how it was. When the Love of the Father would reside in us and we would sell properties to ensure that no one lacked among us. That time would come when the Five Fold Ministry would effectively manifest and Christians would worship God in spirit and in truth and not because they expect to be blessed. And when this Church comes, the likes of Adeboye and Oyedepo would not be able to lead it astray. The Holy Spirit will teach these strong Christians how to tell false teachers from the true ones.

But you have received the Holy Spirit, and he lives within you, so you don't need anyone to teach you what is true. For the Spirit teaches you everything you need to know, and what he teaches is true--it is not a lie. So just as he has taught you, remain in fellowship with Christ. (1 John 2:27)

when we buy electronics in my country, we don't bother to read the manual.

whatsoever the pastor says, we don't bother to read it in the Bible.

this is the reason my people are backward in this Age.

they will fight you for showing them the Truth but will cheer you for telling then what they want to hear.

ogbiwa:


I am not compelled to answer you cos like I said, arguing with a non believer on SM concerning biblical doctrines will NEVER produce the required effect but rather lead to more lame arguments which frankly are non beneficial. I think the first step is you need to get genuinely born again, join a bible teaching church and allow your mind be genuinely renewed by the word of God. By the time you break into some deeper understanding, you, like me, will understand how ridiculously shallow y'all are sounding. When others are thinking of affecting their generation for God and giving everything for it, y'all are here debating on whether to pay 10% and who will or shouldn't get richer with your 10%. Hold it! It means zilch in the grand scheme of things my brother.

Oga no dey use reverse psychology. U were asked genuine questions that carry weight. Simply say u don't have a response for it instead of coming to claim born again and deeper understanding. If u have good points, state them. Points win arguments. Not sentiments abeg. So park well if u no sabi the answer. I wud suggest u ask u pastor. He may know more than u so let him come n defend u.... If he can...

mhizesther:



I pay my tithe once in a while, and that's I want to do it.. at times I just use the money for something else and tithe doesn't guarantee u a place in heaven

Oga... Park well then, this argument is not for u ppl like u.... It's for the *my pastor says this* christians

donblade85555:
freeaze is jobless

Any proof that he is jobless?

jamace:
Freeze is telling them the truth, to stop stealing in the name of the Lord. Chikenan.

Well done interpreter.how market?!!!

PaChukwudi44:


I think the person exhibiting the greatest folly here is you.He has given you bible passages and you are saying he has no fear of God.Are you for real?

Yea I am for real.if you were intelligent enough you will know that scriptures can be interpreted in two ways 1.as you want it
2.as the holy spirit interpreted it to you(ideal)
So don't come and be throwing the word folly baselessly Mr man I can tell you that Abraham lied in some instances .does that make a lie acceptable?.NO you think fear of God is by quoting verses you are ignorant of so may things son.even d same Bible tells us that many will say lord lord we preached and healed in your name but God will say I know you not depart from me.
The fear of God is not in your church attendance or the amount of Bible verses you know it's the work of Grace and the holy spirit in a Man's life.
this generation is trying at all cost to justify sin even using Bible verses bros that is folly...ko le work.please don't quote me again unless you become wiser or smarter.all this freeze disciples that are wise in their own eyes.mwtch

Silumi:

Well done interpreter.how market?!!!

Market don spoil for tithes preaching pastors. Their tithes revenue is dropping seriously.

Oildichotomy:
Just listen to yourself, You are so pained that others are paying tithe and fleeced. And you want me to believe you are not just plain wicked ladened with lots of inferiority complex.

So you are not daft.. I will pass

I wish your parents used the money spent on your education on tithes. It would have been better spent.

I think you all just need to turn to Islam. Research the real Islam and not what the media displays and you will find your answers, peace of mind and God's mercy..

EPAINYOU:


It is a verified or indisputable fact, proposition, principle, or the like - according to a dictionary.

You must also answer my questions. Let see the dumbee.

You are not really smart buddy! You actually copied a dictionary definition??Really?

Frustration go kill some people for this tithe matter!!
Chai!!

What I will never accept is a pastor reading the curses of the law to me! When reading from the torah or old testament scriptures in admonition of the brethren, pastors should only espouse on MESSIANIC VERSES to exhort the brethren.

A pastor should not use 'the devourer' in Malachi to 'threathen' a recreated human spirit to give in the house of God. Pastors that do this either (1) lacks knowledge of new creation realities OR (2) deliberately wants to use fear as a tool to compel the brethren to give (which is a sign of a pastor's lack of faith in God's ability to unendingly supply the church) OR (3) both! It is abusive to uses the curses of the law to admonish the church because the members of the church of God were saved by the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, not by the law!!

Now to the topic, Daddy Freeze himself is biblically clever by half. Yes Deutronomy and the torah had many rules for tithing but does it mean christians should follow it to the letter? Concerning the matter of using the tithe to acquire and drink some strong drink in the house of God as outlined in one of the books of the law - Deutronomy, I want to ask, are we under the law? Is that what a right thinking christian should do?

The same manner I admonished pastors not to latch unto obliterated aspects of the torah (Study Galatians 3:1-29) to put christians in bounds that they are already free from, is the same way I will say to Freeze not to make a mockery of christianity by trying to compel the clergy to follow the letter all things torah because Christ nailed the curses and brutal consequences of the law in the torah to the cross, and when He resurrected, He walked in newness of life.

Let me use an analogy concerning adultery in the old and testament on one hand and the new testament on the other hand. What was the law regarding adultery in the torah?

The gravity of adultery is evident by the fact that the Biblical old testament describes the offense as being punishable by the death penalty for both the man and the woman (Leviticus 20:10, Deutronomy 22:22). But, remember the encounter of the adulterous woman with Jesus? (John 8:3-11) He freed her from imminent stoning to death by the jews and told her to go and sin no more.

However, Jesus also suggested that a possible consequence a spouse faces if caught in the very act of adultery may be divorce (Matthew 5:31-32). So you see, instead of the spouse of the adulterer handing the adulterer over for stoning to death for adultery, Jesus suggested divorce.

But, the greater truth is, God would prefer repentance and forgiveness to be the guide for every christian (Malachi 2:16), so even when Jesus highlighted a legal basis for divorce based on a certain condition, repentance and forgiveness holds supreme for the child of God, because he said we should forgive 70×7 times a day for just one sin by a trangressor (which is an infinite rule to forgive always).

So, you see the application of the law concerning the consequence of adultery received a humane transformation by Jesus Christ. The same can be said of application of tithing and giving in the church. A simple rule is the church should use the tithes and offerings to DO GOOD WORKS to the glory of God the Father in Christ Jesus... for using it to buy strong drink for drinking in church is an aberration to the faith, for the law holds no power over the christian who is not submitted to its letters.

Study and meditate on GALATIANS 3 for understanding:


By Faith, or by Works of the Law?

3 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? zIt was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly aportrayed as crucified. 2 Let me ask you only this: bDid you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by chearing with faith? 3 Are you so foolish? dHaving begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by1 the flesh? 4 eDid you suffer2 so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain? 5 Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and fworks miracles among you do so gby works of the law, or by hearing with faith— 6 just as hAbraham “believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”?

7 Know then that it is ithose of faith who are jthe sons of Abraham. 8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that kGod would justify3 the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, l“In you shall all the nations be blessed.” 9 So then, those who are of faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

The Righteous Shall Live by Faith

10 For all who rely on works of the law are munder a curse; for it is written, n“Cursed be everyone who does not oabide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.” 11 Now it is evident that pno one is justified before God by the law, for q“The righteous shall live by faith.”4 12 But the law is not of faith, rather r“The one who does them shall live by them.” 13 Christ sredeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, t“Cursed is everyone who is hanged uon a tree”— 14 so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might vcome to the Gentiles, so that wwe might receive xthe promised Spirit5 through faith.

The Law and the Promise

15 yTo give a human example, brothers:6zeven with a man-made covenant, no one annuls it or adds to it once it has been ratified. 16 Now athe promises were made bto Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many, but referring to one, c“And to your offspring,” who is Christ. 17 This is what I mean: the law, which came d430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as eto make the promise void. 18 For if the inheritance comes by the law, it no longer comes by promise; but fGod gave it to Abraham by a promise.

19 Why then the law? gIt was added because of transgressions, huntil the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made, and it was iput in place through angels jby an intermediary. 20 Now kan intermediary implies more than one, but lGod is one.

21 Is the law then contrary to the promises of God? Certainly not! For mif a law had been given that could give life, then righteousness would indeed be by the law. 22 But the Scripture nimprisoned everything under sin, so that othe promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given pto those who believe.

23 Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, qimprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. 24 So then, rthe law was our sguardian until Christ came, tin order that we might be justified by faith. 25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, 26 for in Christ Jesus uyou are all sons of God, through faith. 27 For as many of you as vwere baptized winto Christ have xput on Christ. 28 yThere is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave7 nor free, zthere is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And aif you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, bheirs according to promise.