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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 3:54pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:Exactly what I did just now. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:02pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
The comparison was actually Nigeria vs Hungary as regards Otigba. The India mention is just to buttress my point that countries get grade for football. No point teaching me about Hungary's most recents stats. Besides, before then they had not qualified for the Euros for 44 years. Or how many times had Hungary reached the last 16 in the Euros, when Otigba considered Nigeria ahead of Hungary? tbaba1234: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:13pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Joebie: Hungary does not have to qualify for any tournament for them to be a better international/career choice for Otigba. Playing European qualifiers with the best footballing nations will give him great exposure and possibly greater career opportunities. Playing Togo and Benin republic does not offer those kinds of opportunities. India /Uganda do not play European qualifiers. From a career perspective, Nigeria does not necessarily offer better career growth and we have won only one AFCON since.. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:18pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Nigeria is a bigger football nation. A popular one for that matter. We have a name. Nigeria may not give him a better option, but often times in life we make choices based on what we think will benefit us more. I'm not here trying to analyze which option is ACTUALLY better. As regards the Russia issue, from my little research it's not like he will be losing his Russian citizenship. I have to do further research on that. I've read OGN's story on that. A tbaba1234: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:30pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Joebie: You HAD a name. Nigeria is not much to be reckoned with these days. Let us be honest with ourselves. Otigba's decision was based on patroitism not necessarily the best career choice. I think, there was an interview where he talked about dreaming of playing for Nigeria as a child. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:33pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Even Iwobi said as a child he wanted to play for Nigeria. you and I know if England had gone for him early enough he will not be playing for us today. Nigeria is a big name in football. That's the point. A bigger name than Hungary. Stay with the point and stop digressing. tbaba1234: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:45pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Joebie: Otigba declared for Nigeria with zero guarantee of ever playing or even being invited.. No contact from NFF, nothing... That is like putting your international future on the line with no guarantees.. No player does that with career in mind especially as Nigeria is not necessarily a better career move. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kalapizim(m): 4:54pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Kog45:true but I feel his handlers should have advised him to exercise patience. It's safe to say he was hasty. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:54pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
goldfish80:You've still not told why they chose Greece over Nigeria. Were they approached and they declined? It's the reason for their decision I want to understand. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:00pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Were prior contacts made on Ejaria, Alaba, Balogun etc when they declared for Nigeria? Putting his international furure on the line? You mean when Hungary game calling? Explain. Sir, Two things because I don't like derivative arguments. I take one discussion at a time. So let us get this clear. One, I had stressed that MOST of these players will choose the other country over Nigeria. So there is no point we arguing about Otigba's true reasons, as I never said it's NEVER about patriotism. I also said earlier that patriotism is overplayed here. When I say patriotism is an illusion, I'm not saying it's impossible for one to be patriotic. Get the context. I'm saying the way we think of that word as regards these player's making their choices is illusionary. MOST (once again) times, the decisions they make are like professional decisions. How do I know this? By carefully studying their statements before and after, I've realized that they considered the other nation as well, but the opportunity was not open to them AT THE TIME THEY MADE THEIR DECISION to choose Nigeria. Hence, we are a second option. Consider the latest on Tammy. They were asking him if there a was decision to be made (trying to know what's going on from the Nigeria side) or if he was or is still considering Nigeria. Read all his answers paying attention word for word. tbaba1234: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:07pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
I fear oh. Abi did they reach out to the Greece Basketball Association first before they were considered? Even nations that steal our talents they have a system of doing that. They put laws in place. They put measures in place. And they make the information available. Mujtahida: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:13pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
tbaba1234 read line by line Otigba quotes ''Yesterday, I got an invitation from the first team squad of Hungary for the first time. They play against Greece in European qualification; I was called up,'' Kenneth Otigba said to SL10.ng. ''But I just spoke to the trainer, Dárdai Pal, ten minutes ago, and I told him if I listen to my heart, then I'll wait until Nigeria calls me. ''I am rejecting it because my biggest dream is to play for the Super Eagles, so I'll wait for that, maybe one day.'' The former Liverpool and Norwich City target has nothing but praise for Nigeria's national team, calling the Super Eagles the most dominant team in Africa. ''I would be so happy to play for Nigeria. I love the team because I look up to the players. ''I think they are the best team in Africa, and everyone knows the history about Nigerian football. ''I would just feel wonderful, and it will motivate me if I see all the big Nigerian players around me. ''I believe my dad would be delighted if I play for Nigeria one day,' Kenneth Otigba added. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:18pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
MetalJigsaw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqPWWMLrQm0 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:29pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Joebie: What i see here is love for Nigeria, Patroitism.. He followed his heart and not necessarily what was in his career's best interest. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:38pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
haha.. skewed.. Love for the Super Eagles because the Nigerian team is actually a big name. He wants to identify with the team. Does he think playing for Nigeria is a better option? -- most probably, yes. tbaba1234: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:47pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Joebie: Waiting for an imaginary call-up as opposed to a real one. It is one thing to talk about how great a country is before the invite and another to talk that way after an invite. And playing regularly for Hungary is better exposure than playing for Nigeria. Just because they play in Europe. The best clubs are in Europe, the top scouts are there. How often do WC take place to see Nigeria on a global stage? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:48pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by aadvark: 5:56pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
please can someone give me the full list of players invited for the Algeria and Argentina game? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 6:17pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:23pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
aodis:Leon Finished Ogu. Chai!!! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by aodis: 6:24pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
soetanoreoluwa: I just dey pity the boy. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:24pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
THE FULL LIST with REPLACEMENTS Goalkeepers: Daniel Akpeyi (Chippa United, South Africa); Ikechukwu Ezenwa (FC IfeanyiUbah); Francis Uzoho (Deportivo La Coruna, Spain) Defenders: William Ekong (Bursaspor FC, Turkey); Abdullahi Shehu (Anorthosis Famagusta, Cyprus); Tyronne Ebuehi (ADO Den Haag, The Netherlands); Leon Balogun (FSV Mainz 05, Germany); Uche Agbo (Standard Liege, Belgium); Chidozie Awaziem (Nantes FC, France); Olaoluwa Aina (Hull City, England), Kenneth Omeruo (Kasimpasa FC, Turkey) Midfielders: Mikel John Obi (Tianjin Teda, China); Wilfred Ndidi (Leicester City, England); Oghenekaro Etebo (CD Feirense, Portugal); John Ogu (Hapoel Be’er Sheva, Israel); Mikel Agu (Bursaspor FC, Turkey); Chidiebere Nwakali (Sogndal FC, Norway) Forwards: Ahmed Musa (Leicester City, England); Kelechi Iheanacho (Leicester City, England); Olarenwaju Kayode (Girona, Spain) ; Alex Iwobi (Arsenal FC, England); Henry Onyekuru (RSC Anderlecht, Belgium); Anthony Nwakaeme (Hapoel Be’er Sheva, Israel) STANDBY: Alhassan Ibrahim (FK Austria Wien, Austria); Brian Idowu (FC Amkar Perm, Russia) aadvark: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 6:27pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
See embarrassment. See reason why I kick against wooing of this foreign born players. Just listen to this nigga,Tammy. 7 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by aodis: 6:30pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
So who is replacing Ighalo Onazi ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 6:31pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
OMANBALA1: ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:44pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
According to the NFF, Omeruo replaces Onazi, and Kayode replaced Moses Simon. Maybe Muazam to replace Ighalo. As you can see, it's not a like for like replacement. aodis: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:44pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Uzoho in Morocco. Expected to be in camp tonight. Misses training. Mikel and Akpeyi still expected. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:58pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Joebie: Nice idea and I agree 100%. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:00pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Joebie: good points. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:04pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:05pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Folks,just imagine what will happen if we win the world cup...... I mean just imagine ![]() ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by aadvark: 7:09pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Joebie:Thanks bro. I don't know if I'm the only one who's excited that Tammy didn't join the Eagles. I never thought he'd be good for us. I watched all the goals he scored for Bristol and Swansea so far and I don't think he's so different from Iheanacho. Heck, Nacho can even threaten from outside the box but almost all of Tammy's goals were tap-ins. The only thing I know he does excellently well is hold-up play, but Ighalo already does that. Odion needs to only work on his accuracy and concentration. Basically, the Eagles need a striker who combines attributes like hold-up play, threat from distance, ability to take on defenders, and accuracy as well. Therefore, Ighalo remains the best we have for now. As for alternatives, Tammy won't work for Nigeria, for we play a system where the striker has to do a lot of work and sometimes has to craft something out of nothing. That is where Dessers comes in. I don't know why everyone seems blind to this guy's abilities; probably cos he is willing to play for us. You know we have a tradition of not valuing whoever wants us. I watched Tammy's highlights and Dessers' the same day and that Belgian dude impressed me so much. He is more adventurous, can threaten from anywhere, with both feet, and can take on and bamboozle defenders. I urge u to watch his goals and highlights and compare with Tammy's. I think that if he's given the Eagles chance, he'll blow up in our faces. I believe he and Ighalo deserve to be our strikers for the world cup. Anyway, its just my opinion. 6 Likes |
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