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Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by walemoney007(m): 10:39pm On Nov 07, 2017
isaacsegun:

bros,you have got it wrong.fulani only have a significant presence in ilorin,and despite that,the real yorubas are the majority.
leave this mumus alone.

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Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by aribisala0(m): 11:33pm On Nov 07, 2017
life2017:
Bishop David Oyedepo is from Kwara state like Bukola Saraki.

This is For those IPOB sympathizer who have refused to recognized that Yoruba have played their politics right and they are number 2 and Number 3 in the current Buhari Government.

Also the overall head of the military is also Yoruba who is the chief of defence staff. (I know some IPOB sympathizer will argue how chief of Army staff is more powerful "practically" even though he is a subordinate to Chief of defence staff).

The two cash cow ministries (Juicy ministries in the voice of corrupt minds) is headed by Yoruba. Which is ministry of finance, and ministry of power,housing and works.
He is NOT Yoruba . He is Fulani

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Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by BAILMONEY: 11:40pm On Nov 07, 2017
aribisala0:
He is NOT Yoruba . He is Fulani
STOP EDUCATING THEM ALUBOSA
Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by aribisala0(m): 11:45pm On Nov 07, 2017
There is nothing to gain ,no victory or pride in Saraki being Yoruba.

It is not a plus in any way.
Saraki is a totally forgettable individual
What will he be remembered for that will make Yoruba want to claim him

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Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by FisifunKododada: 1:10am On Nov 08, 2017
Who said Saraki is not Yoruba?

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Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by Malawian(m): 5:36am On Nov 08, 2017
There is something you people probably don't know. Yoruba people also bear "BUHARI" as surname. One Yoruba woman came to photocopy her National ID card in my office yesterday, I was just dumbfounded.

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Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by bakynes(m): 5:47am On Nov 08, 2017
Malawian:
There is something you people probably don't know. Yoruba people also bear "BUHARI" as surname. One Yoruba woman came to photocopy her National ID card in my office yesterday, I was just dumbfounded.
Are you sure it's not "BUSARI", that's what Yoruba bears.

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Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by QueenSekxy(f): 6:03am On Nov 08, 2017
it seems you people can't make a post without dragging IPOB to your miserable lives...mtchew

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Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by Olu317(m): 6:14am On Nov 08, 2017
Cyynthialove:
I still don't know why we are attaching ourselves to Saraki even when Saraki has severally denied his yorubaness angry angry
Where did you read such?
Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by TundeHashim(m): 6:16am On Nov 08, 2017
Lol...it's funny how people who know close to nothing about Ilorin history claim to be an authority on Ilorin. Some people, having read some discredited works claim to know Ilorin even much more than the Emir. so funny.


First and foremost, The Sarakis claim to originate from Agbaji Quarters, specifically at "Ile Agoro". Further checks on Agbaji itself and Agoro shows that the progenitor of the Agoro compound is NEITHER Fulani Nor Yoruba. In fact, He's a SHUWA ARAB who migrated from a Sudan via Mali to Ilorin. The name Agbaji is a Yoruba version of the town they come from "Al-barji" in the Sudan.

However, Most people classify SHUWA as FULANI just because of the close similarities between them.

one thing of note is that there's a Fulanization of the shuwa/tuareg in most Emirates. most shuwa, on account of close similarity with the Fulani, would just subsume their identities under that of the Fula identity, and interestingly they're welcome. Also, They're culturally Yoruba because they've assimilated the Yoruba culture, to a great extent.

So it is true, to an extent, that Saraki is a Fulani and a Yoruba man. it is also true that Saraki is not a Fulani nor Yoruba. However, what is true at all time is that Saraki is an Ilorin man!

Thank u

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Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by Olu317(m): 6:21am On Nov 08, 2017
Markfemi:


Dino melaye js a Yoruba man
Go and read history Kogi Yorubas and Kwara are 100% Yoruba land
But some Fulani elements have settled in ilorin even adopting Yoruba name
Only thing I can say is Bukola smother is a Yoruba Woman
But you can’t compare Bukola to oyedeoo or dunk cause they are from different places and not loyal to any sultan
Sarakis are Yorubas.

Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by Olu317(m): 6:45am On Nov 08, 2017
TundeHashim:
Lol...it's funny how people who know close to nothing about Ilorin history claim to be an authority on Ilorin. Some people, having read some discredited works claim to know Ilorin even much more than the Emir. so funny.


First and foremost, The Sarakis claim to originate from Agbaji Quarters, specifically at "Ile Agoro". Further checks on Agbaji itself and Agoro shows that the progenitor of the Agoro compound is NEITHER Fulani Nor Yoruba. In fact, He's a SHUWA ARAB who migrated from a Sudan via Mali to Ilorin. The name Agbaji is a Yoruba version of the town they come from "Al-barji" in the Sudan.

However, Most people classify SHUWA as FULANI just because of the close similarities between them.

one thing of note is that there's a Fulanization of the shuwa/tuareg in most Emirates. most shuwa, on account of close similarity with the Fulani, would just subsume their identities under that of the Fula identity, and interestingly they're welcome. Also, They're culturally Yoruba because they've assimilated the Yoruba culture, to a great extent.

So it is true, to an extent, that Saraki is a Fulani and a Yoruba man. it is also true that Saraki is not a Fulani nor Yoruba. However, what is true at all time is that Saraki is an Ilorin man!

Thank u
The reality is that there are cultural assimilation by people who migrated toward the Ilorin but do have a lot of intermarriages with the so called Yoruba of today. However, Candidly, Sarakis are paternally Yoruba. Even the Balogun Fulanis of Ilorin are of paternally of Yoruba descent. However, one thing that baffles me is the method at which these people understood Yoruba dialects without having a formal studying for it. If solagberu's ancestor who settled at Kuwo, but was said to have migrated from part of Bama in Borno( Kanuris) before solagberu's migration to Oke suna Ilorin is really interesting having these set of people fusing with others. But it seems these people have one form of link or the other because, why would such without reasons? Perhaps greener pastures or seeking out families members? The Yorubas are of different groups that fused together with new ones but most of them do still retain one form of tradition linking them to their past.
Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by BakireBulmaker: 8:13am On Nov 08, 2017
Cyynthialove:
I still don't know why we are attaching ourselves to Saraki even when Saraki has severally denied his yorubaness angry angry

Where and when?
Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by BakireBulmaker: 8:15am On Nov 08, 2017
bakynes:

Are you sure it's not "BUSARI", that's what Yoruba bears.

Kids everywhere.

An Oyo senator bears Buhari.

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Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by Malawian(m): 8:15am On Nov 08, 2017
bakynes:

Are you sure it's not "BUSARI", that's what Yoruba bears.
my room mate in the University was Busari, so I already know that name. It was Buhari I saw, in fact if not that they were looking at me with sharp eyes, I already brought out my phone to snap it.
Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by BakireBulmaker: 8:15am On Nov 08, 2017
aribisala0:
There is nothing to gain ,no victory or pride in Saraki being Yoruba.

It is not a plus in any way.
Saraki is a totally forgettable individual
What will he be remembered for that will make Yoruba want to claim him

He is no 3
Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by BakireBulmaker: 8:17am On Nov 08, 2017
Markfemi:
Saraki is not Yoruba
He’s a sultan agent loyal to caliphate

You these young ones ehn...

Na wa

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Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by Frenchkiss564: 8:26am On Nov 08, 2017
Malawian:

my room mate in the University was Busari, so I already know that name. It was Buhari I saw, in fact if not that they were looking at me with sharp eyes, I already brought out my phone to snap it.

Buhari is an Arab / Muslim name and not reserved for hausa and fulanis. There are even Arab Christians that bear Buhari.

Buhari is in the same class with Sulaiman, Afeez, Muhammad and other Muslim names
Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by bakynes(m): 8:35am On Nov 08, 2017
TundeHashim:
Lol...it's funny how people who know close to nothing about Ilorin history claim to be an authority on Ilorin. Some people, having read some discredited works claim to know Ilorin even much more than the Emir. so funny.


First and foremost, The Sarakis claim to originate from Agbaji Quarters, specifically at "Ile Agoro". Further checks on Agbaji itself and Agoro shows that the progenitor of the Agoro compound is NEITHER Fulani Nor Yoruba. In fact, He's a SHUWA ARAB who migrated from a Sudan via Mali to Ilorin. The name Agbaji is a Yoruba version of the town they come from "Al-barji" in the Sudan.

However, Most people classify SHUWA as FULANI just because of the close similarities between them.

one thing of note is that there's a Fulanization of the shuwa/tuareg in most Emirates. most shuwa, on account of close similarity with the Fulani, would just subsume their identities under that of the Fula identity, and interestingly they're welcome. Also, They're culturally Yoruba because they've assimilated the Yoruba culture, to a great extent.

So it is true, to an extent, that Saraki is a Fulani and a Yoruba man. it is also true that Saraki is not a Fulani nor Yoruba. However, what is true at all time is that Saraki is an Ilorin man!

Thank u
That's what I was telling that guy,he has Fulani ancestry his forefather 200 yrs ago was a Fulani from Mali who migrated into Ilorin but years of marriage to Yorubas has made him a Yoruba man.

Saraki is a Yoruba man with Fulani Ancestry.
Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by Lagbaja01(m): 9:14am On Nov 08, 2017
[quote author=chinjo post=62169189]We all know Oyedepo is from kwara state but is he also from Ilorin as Saraki? Even in Ilorin, they have four baloguns namely: Balogun Gambari, Balogun Fulani, Balogun Alanamu and Balogun Ajikobi. While Balogun Gambari and Fulani are from the Hausa extraction, both Balogun Alanamu and Ajikobi are from the Yoruba extraction. Though both Oyedepo and Saraki are from the same state, Oyedepo is a pure Yoruba man from Omu-Aran while Saraki is a Fulani man from Ilorin. Lai Mohammed though a Muslim, is another typical Yoruba man from Oro in kwara state.[/quotes] God bless you for this insight.

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Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by Malawian(m): 9:55am On Nov 08, 2017
Frenchkiss564:


Buhari is an Arab / Muslim name and not reserved for hausa and fulanis. There are even Arab Christians that bear Buhari.

Buhari is in the same class with Sulaiman, Afeez, Muhammad and other Muslim names
I didn't know this!
Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by Olu317(m): 12:15pm On Nov 08, 2017
BakireBulmaker:


You these young ones ehn...

Na wa
This is the reason history need be taught in all school grades. Even if need be in religious circle.
Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by aribisala0(m): 1:03pm On Nov 08, 2017
BakireBulmaker:


He is no 3
What is the relevance of that to what you quoted? If you have nothing sensible to say be silent. If you cannot be silent do not quote me with foolishness.
Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by BakireBulmaker: 1:08pm On Nov 08, 2017
aribisala0:
What is the relevance of that to what you quoted? If you have nothing sensible to say be silent. If you cannot be silent do not quote me with foolishness.

You sound like a pained dulllard.

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Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by aribisala0(m): 1:12pm On Nov 08, 2017
BakireBulmaker:


I am a pained dulllard.

Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by BakireBulmaker: 1:16pm On Nov 08, 2017
[quote author=aribisala0 post=62185805][/quote]

Poor!

Shior!!
Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by TundeHashim(m): 6:58pm On Nov 08, 2017
Olu317:
The reality is that there are cultural assimilation by people who migrated toward the Ilorin but do have a lot of intermarriages with the so called Yoruba of today. However, Candidly, Sarakis are paternally Yoruba. Even the Balogun Fulanis of Ilorin are of paternally of Yoruba descent. However, one thing that baffles me is the method at which these people understood Yoruba dialects without having a formal studying for it. If solagberu's ancestor who settled at Kuwo, but was said to have migrated from part of Bama in Borno( Kanuris) before solagberu's migration to Oke suna Ilorin is really interesting having these set of people fusing with others. But it seems these people have one form of link or the other because, why would such without reasons? Perhaps greener pastures or seeking out families members? The Yorubas are of different groups that fused together with new ones but most of them do still retain one form of tradition linking them to their past.

bro...while I completely agree with u that there's a cultural assimilation in Ilorin...I am, however indifferent about whether Saraki is a Yoruba or not. however, u made an error. The Balogun Fulani have paternal Fulani ancestry traceable to a particular quarters in Kebbi. I'm Fulani and I've got relatives married to the olufadi and imam-Fulani clans. However, you're absolutely right if you had said Balogun Gambari. I presume you know they're four Baloguns in Ilorin. Two Yorubas(Ajikobi and Alanamu), One Hausa(Gambari) and one Fulani (Fulani). Some crazy power play happened in Balogun Gambari quarters that eventually led to a Yoruba man (murogo) becoming a Balogun Gambari. But we're all one..a big family bounded by an Islamic identity headed under the leadership of the house of Alimi...

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Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by TundeHashim(m): 7:00pm On Nov 08, 2017
bakynes:

That's what I was telling that guy,he has Fulani ancestry his forefather 200 yrs ago was a Fulani from Mali who migrated into Ilorin but years of marriage to Yorubas has made him a Yoruba man.

Saraki is a Yoruba man with Fulani Ancestry.

smile
Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by Nowenuse: 7:54pm On Nov 08, 2017
Markfemi:


The dominant group in ilorin is Fulani not the whole of Kwara
Kogi West is 100% Yoruba

Kogi West is not 100% yoruba.
Lokoja and Kogi LGAs are dominated by Ebira koto and Nupe speaking tribes like Kakanda, Kupa and Bassa. A non yoruba was once senator of Kogi West.
Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by diadem10: 8:05pm On Nov 08, 2017
bakynes:

I have proven to you he is a Yoruba man though I do recognize he has Fulani Ancestry. His Fulani fore-father that settled in Ilorin married Yoruba and since then it's been generations down the line marrying Yoruba that makes him a Yoruba man.

Now prove to me he is a pure Fulani Man.

I doubt if he's a Fulani. His ancestor was probably an Hausa man, part of the slaves that got emancipated from old Oyo empire. He's probably ashamed of it and the reason for his nonsensical tales of how his Family came from Mali to settle down. Why didn't they settle in the North, which is more closer and has a way of life close to the Fulanis?
Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by Nowenuse: 8:06pm On Nov 08, 2017
TundeHashim:


bro...while I completely agree with u that there's a cultural assimilation in Ilorin...I am, however indifferent about whether Saraki is a Yoruba or not. however, u made an error. The Balogun Fulani have paternal Fulani ancestry traceable to a particular quarters in Kebbi. I'm Fulani and I've got relatives married to the olufadi and imam-Fulani clans. However, you're absolutely right if you had said Balogun Gambari. I presume you know they're four Baloguns in Ilorin. Two Yorubas(Ajikobi and Alanamu), One Hausa(Gambari) and one Fulani (Fulani). Some crazy power play happened in Balogun Gambari quarters that eventually led to a Yoruba man (murogo) becoming a Balogun Gambari. But we're all one..a big family bounded by an Islamic identity headed under the leadership of the house of Alimi...

You are a fulani man and you are answering Tunde? I smell identity crisis here. Can you still speak fulfude and do you still practice pulaar culture?

Face it! You are more or less a yorubanized fulani, just as the millions of fulanis in the northwest have become Hausanized fulanis.
Re: If Bukola Saraki Is Not Yoruba, Then Bishop David Oyedepo Is Also Not Yoruba by Nowenuse: 8:15pm On Nov 08, 2017
TundeHashim:
Lol...it's funny how people who know close to nothing about Ilorin history claim to be an authority on Ilorin. Some people, having read some discredited works claim to know Ilorin even much more than the Emir. so funny.


First and foremost, The Sarakis claim to originate from Agbaji Quarters, specifically at "Ile Agoro". Further checks on Agbaji itself and Agoro shows that the progenitor of the Agoro compound is NEITHER Fulani Nor Yoruba. In fact, He's a SHUWA ARAB who migrated from a Sudan via Mali to Ilorin. The name Agbaji is a Yoruba version of the town they come from "Al-barji" in the Sudan.

However, Most people classify SHUWA as FULANI just because of the close similarities between them.

one thing of note is that there's a Fulanization of the shuwa/tuareg in most Emirates. most shuwa, on account of close similarity with the Fulani, would just subsume their identities under that of the Fula identity, and interestingly they're welcome. Also, They're culturally Yoruba because they've assimilated the Yoruba culture, to a great extent.

So it is true, to an extent, that Saraki is a Fulani and a Yoruba man. it is also true that Saraki is not a Fulani nor Yoruba. However, what is true at all time is that Saraki is an Ilorin man!

Thank u

Pls, are you for real with your 2nd and 3rd paragraph? Fulanization of shuwa Arabs? Where is that happening?
If you had said Kanuri-nization of the shuwa Arabs, it would be more reasonable, b cos all the Shuwa Arabs in Nigeria and to an extent Niger republic are living and settled in the midst of Kanuris in Kanuri homeland as nomads and as such almost all shuwa Arabs speak Kanuri as a 2nd language and heavily intermarry with Kanuris than they do with fulanis.

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