OMANBALA1:
See embarrassment. See reason why I kick against wooing of this foreign born players.
Just listen to this nigga,Tammy.

I saw it coming.

jotey:


Tiv

Proudly

Joebie:
lol

Dude had a choice and he made his choice. He was saying things simply as it was, until the NFF/Pinnick comes out to say the did not actually "roll out the carpet" on him.
Nigeria giant of Africa? Why do we like to deceive ourselves??
If his mind was set on England. So be it.

Next time we (Pinnick) need to be smart about our approach and what we say to the media. calling a spade a spade.

Modified
I posted this same story yesterday. Paste the entire statement from Tammy

I didn't know the interview was already posted on the thread.

By the way, Nigeria is the gaint of Africa. Maybe sleeping giant but still a gaint, no deception in that.

Tammy by his actions have made it even more difficult for the Nff to approach some of the diaspora born players. The Pinick regime cannot have eggs thrown at their faces like this again,hence there must be a certain level of commitment from the players themselves before being contacted by the FA abinitio.

Danielnino00:
Folks,just imagine what will happen if we win the world cup...... I mean just imagine

Imagine something thing else please.

Danielnino00:
Folks,just imagine what will happen if we win the world cup...... I mean just imagine

Imagine something thing else please.

When did we start sleeping, and for how long?
The problem is we don't have a working system. It shows in the way we handle almost all our affairs.
That's the real problem.

goldfish80:

I didn't know the interview was already posted on the thread.

By the way, Nigeria is the gaint of Africa. Maybe sleeping giant but still a gaint, no deception in that.

Tammy by his actions have made it even more difficult for the Nff to approach some of the diaspora born players. The Pinick regime cannot have eggs thrown at their faces like this again,hence there must be a certain level of commitment from the players themselves before being contacted by the FA abinitio.

Joebie:
lol

Dude had a choice and he made his choice. He was saying things simply as it was, until the NFF/Pinnick comes out to say the did not actually "roll out the carpet" on him.
Nigeria giant of Africa? Why do we like to deceive ourselves??
If his mind was set on England. So be it.

Next time we (Pinnick) need to be smart about our approach and what we say to the media. calling a spade a spade.

Modified
I posted this same story yesterday. Paste the entire statement from Tammy

Chief of Defense Tammy Abraham.

Wehdone sir. Keep up with the defense, it's turning out to be twice as difficult as what Buhari's defenders have to do

And calling Nigeria a football powerhouse in Africa is stating facts, not self deceit. Or, can you name five footballing nations on this continent without us?

Joebie:
When did we start sleeping, and for how long?
The problem is we don't have a working system. It shows in the way we handle almost all our affairs.
That's the real problem.

the real problem is that foolish children think it's cool to rub sand in the face of adults.

Joebie, see ehn, sometimes, it is better to say nothing than to say everything. Tammy apparently doesn't know that, you must not answer every question. There ate some you should deflect fron

You are her defending Tammy and accusing one imaginary system for the utterances of Tammy, but like goldfish said, what this boy has done will ruin the chances of many others especially English-bred kids.

You see that complaint Komekn makes that things are tough? They will be tougher henceforth. That is what we should reflect on, even those who have declared may not get a look in anymore.

It is that bad

Joebie:
When did we start sleeping, and for how long?
The problem is we don't have a working system. It shows in the way we handle almost all our affairs.
That's the real problem.

Joebie any news from Eagles camp

The right lesson to learn from this is what I'm highlighting. This is why people don't learn. And if you don't learn, you don't grow.
The boy has the right to say whatever he wants. Freedom of speech. but if you are going to castigate others for what one boy says, to what end?. Eventually, it's not like we are going to benefit. There is no guarantee we are going to get things right at the home front in the near future. That is if we get it right in the next 20 years. It's the Nigerian culture, to do things yagayaga and expect praises. Is that not one of the primary reasons why we don't grow as a country?
I think it's stupid to wail about what a 19 year old boy feels or says. Identifying the real problem is wisdom. If he says we tried to roll a carpet on him then that's what it is. I'm still waiting for the NFF to refute that.

safarigirl:
the real problem is that foolish children think it's cool to rub sand in the face of adults.

Joebie, see ehn, sometimes, it is better to say nothing than to say everything. Tammy apparently doesn't know that, you must not answer every question. There ate some you should deflect fron

You are her defending Tammy and accusing one imaginary system for the utterances of Tammy, but like goldfish said, what this boy has done will ruin the chances of many others especially English-bred kids.

You see that complaint Komekn makes that things are tough? They will be tougher henceforth. That is what we should reflect on, even those who have declared may not get a look in anymore.

It is that bad

Everybody is in except Akepeyi -- the last I read

Kog45:
Joebie any news from Eagles camp

Exclusive- Rohr Invites Little Known Morocco Based Goalkeeper To Make Up For Akpeyi’s Absence

November 8, 2017016


Coach Gernot Rohr has also extended invitation to a Nigerian goalkeeper based in Morocco as the team awaits the arrival of Daniel Akpeyi, whose arrival is being delayed by flight issues.

The identity and name of the goalkeeper is not known yet to this portal, but as reported yesterday Francis Odinaka Uzoho arrived yesterday evening, and the Deportivo La Coruna shot stopper is expected to take part in training this morning.

Rohr called up the shot stopper as a stop gap measure and he will most likely be dropped when Akpeyi arrive camp later today.

23 players are presently in training , and Owngoalnigeria.com will continue to monitor the team as they continue their build up to Friday’s dead rubber World Cup 2018 Qualifiers tie against Algeria.

Joebie:
Everybody is in except Akepeyi -- the last I read

somewhere I read John Obi mikel is still not in camp

CompleteSportsNigeria reported at 10.48am that Mikel had arrived in camp. ANS also insinuated that
However, OGN said at 11.30 am Mikel is still not yet in camp.

I will go with CSN

Humility017:

somewhere I read John Obi mikel is still not in camp

kennysville:



I have been liking your analyses up until this very post. I am sorry my friend, but you are starting to sound bias and prejudiced. It seems to me like anything English for you is the best. Today is not the day to engage. I would rather just chip in that you scale it down from like 10 to say 1.5

Firstly, I unapologetically make probably about 95% of my recommendations with regards to English players.

Why? Because this is where I have indepth first hand experiential knowledge and involvement day in day out. With heads of recruitment, managers, coaches, agents, players, etc. If that's your definition of bias and prejudice then you need to comprehensively re-consider your position and comments. Tonight
I will be at a EPL club training session.

I am not going to talk about what I do not have indepth knowledge about. Yes I do go to mainland Europe quite a few times each year. Maybe 6-8 times a year possibly more I have a good appreciation of European football. But my main hands on knowledge is English football.

Let someone who is involved with mainland European football make thier comments from a standpoint of knowledge.

But back you your question ❓ do you consider Ogu better than Aneke Why Stick to facts, figures and your own observations, leave out sentiment be objective, give your reasons, convince me and others. I may even agree with you, I am not conceited.

lol. follow the argument. Nobody talked about Nigeria being the powerhouse of African football.
And if you really want to digress, I can also take you on.

Modified
No point making reference to Buhari's defenders. The problem we have here is many of us are having misplaced priorities.

Let me give you an analogy, with a real life story for that matter.
A certain father got really angry with his daughter for the decisions she was making in her personal life. In fact they had a fight, and he denied her and said she was no longer his daughter. The man now almost 80, although has 7 other children, is dying to have a relationship with this particular child. Still no headway till this moment. This certain daughter is very responsible, married with 2 kids. What am I trying to say?
I hope someone learns something from that.

safarigirl:
Chief of Defense Tammy Abraham.

Wehdone sir. Keep up with the defense, it's turning out to be twice as difficult as what Buhari's defenders have to do

And calling Nigeria a football powerhouse in Africa is stating facts, not self deceit. Or, can you name five footballing nations on this continent without us?

OMANBALA1:
See embarrassment. See reason why I kick against wooing of this foreign born players.
Just listen to this nigga,Tammy.

Una funny oh! Wetin make Germany come begin do if dem hear wetin Balogun and Deji talk about where their allegiance dey? Dem for dey wail like us abi?Even when these guys were born there and never stepped on Naija soil.Maybe we should learn to admit we win some we lose some but doesn't stop us from trying.

Fact! Tammy et al by history still have their roots here and that can't be denied.

jotey:


Tiv

Ka onov mba Ayayatutu

thank you my brother.. na only we person don turn down?
Make the world hear word jor.. Noisemakers.

Naijaphobia:



Una funny oh! Wetin make Germany come begin do if dem hear wetin Balogun and Deji talk about where their allegiance dey? Dem for dey wail like us abi?Even when these guys were born there and never stepped on Naija soil.Maybe we should learn to admit we win some we lose some but doesn't stop us from trying.

Fact! Tammy et al by history still has their roots here and that can't be denied.

I had said "if there is a channel"
Just because someone hears you does not mean you were actually heard. May sound contradictory. But I hope you get my point.

soetanoreoluwa:


How time flies! Is good you believe our voice can be heard... Good one sir.. There is nothing impossible

We have seen owner of Nairabet Akin Alabi view this thread before and even post a comment regarding bet owner buying a club side... The discussion was between Oga forgiveness and Oga goodjoe...


It can happen if you believe...

Joebie:
THE FULL LIST with REPLACEMENTS



Goalkeepers: Daniel Akpeyi (Chippa United, South Africa); Ikechukwu Ezenwa (FC IfeanyiUbah); Francis Uzoho (Deportivo La Coruna, Spain)



Defenders: William Ekong (Bursaspor FC, Turkey); Abdullahi Shehu (Anorthosis Famagusta, Cyprus); Tyronne Ebuehi (ADO Den Haag, The Netherlands); Leon Balogun (FSV Mainz 05, Germany); Uche Agbo (Standard Liege, Belgium); Chidozie Awaziem (Nantes FC, France); Olaoluwa Aina (Hull City, England), Kenneth Omeruo (Kasimpasa FC, Turkey)



Midfielders: Mikel John Obi (Tianjin Teda, China); Wilfred Ndidi (Leicester City, England); Oghenekaro Etebo (CD Feirense, Portugal); John Ogu (Hapoel Be’er Sheva, Israel); Mikel Agu (Bursaspor FC, Turkey); Chidiebere Nwakali (Sogndal FC, Norway)



Forwards: Ahmed Musa (Leicester City, England); Kelechi Iheanacho (Leicester City, England); Olarenwaju Kayode (Girona, Spain) ; Alex Iwobi (Arsenal FC, England); Henry Onyekuru (RSC Anderlecht, Belgium); Anthony Nwakaeme (Hapoel Be’er Sheva, Israel)



STANDBY: Alhassan Ibrahim (FK Austria Wien, Austria); Brian Idowu (FC Amkar Perm, Russia)

I find it hard to believe the NFF has not decided to give Dominic Iorfa a formalised invitation. Considering his young age but considerable experience in the championship. Where he won MOTM on his debut as a teenager and young player of the month 2014/15. When Omeruo was playing for Middlesbrough fc without being outstanding in the same season.

Is Omeruo better than Iorfa Or indeed for that matter is Shehu. I have asked if Shehu is better than Aina as well. Because it's seemingly accepted he us the best RB but in comparison to who

safarigirl:
Chief of Defense Tammy Abraham.

Wehdone sir. Keep up with the defense, it's turning out to be twice as difficult as what Buhari's defenders have to do

And calling Nigeria a football powerhouse in Africa is stating facts, not self deceit. Or, can you name five footballing nations on this continent without us?

lol @ chief of defence

that post suit am Wella

yes what we have here is #TeamProForeign, #TeamHomegrown, and #TeamPerformance.
I belong to the latter. If you identify a NIGERIAN that is really good, then make the "approach". But how do you approach? We need to take a long term approach towards solving everything for that matter in Nigeria. I've given my suggestion as regards approaching those players in diaspora, else we will miss out on some special players in future. The Omidiji example should never be a standard. We should stop being lazy. If we must fix things domestically, we would still need working systems. And you don't find working systems overnight.

Modified
And #TeamAntiForeign, who are the team version of racists, tribalists etc

goldfish80:


I like the Omidji example you pointed out. I hope you realise the boys parents were always edging him close to Nigeria.
He traveled sometime ago to meet some Super Eagles players. If his parents didn't take steps to channel his thoughts towards Nigeria, trust me, the Nff wouldn't have heard about him let alone sending birthday wishes to him.

Sometimes you just have to show interest. If you're good enough, you will get invited.

Also, we must one thing very clearly. Because you're born in Europe doesn't automatically make you better than everyone else. This was how the Swiss born Ukoh was capped severally because na oyibo.
Recall Semi Ajayi made John obuhs U20s? I laughed so hard. I mean, if the boy went into an arse kicking content against a one legged man, he will loose! Thats how incompetent the lad is, yet he took up squad space just because he was born in London and trained with Arsenal U23s.

We must be careful. Being born in Europe is not some Holy grail or passport to success.

Poaching foreign born players shouldn't be standard practice for a country like ours, especially in football.

Eligreat247:

Ka onov mba Ayayatutu

lol
i am not Tiv
just understand the language to some extent sha

AF Nigeria 2018 FIFA World Cup Qualifiers - Africa Nigeria
Hull City coach still keen on Ahmed Musa


Danny Simpson and Ahmed Musa celebrate the latter's goal against Crystal Palace

by Graeme Jackson

Wednesday Nov 08, 2017. 12:00

Hull City coach Leonid Slutsky remains keen on signing Leicester City’s Nigerian international Ahmed Musa.


The Super Eagles player has fallen down the pecking order at the Foxes following the club’s upheaval in management.


And Slutsky, who worked with Musa at Russian club CSKA Moscow, admitted that the Tigers almost landed a deal to sign the player on deadline day in the last window.


"We came very close to Musa," Slutsky told the Hull Daily Mail.

“But not each decision depends on me or the club.

“I think maybe he wants to prove himself at Leicester and he needs one more attempt. He thought a lot and finally his decision was to stay at Leicester.


“The final decision was at midday on deadline day and we didn't have a chance to change Musa for another option."


Despite his lack of playing time, Musa is a part of the Nigeria squad which will tackle Algeria in their final 2018 World Cup qualifier this weekend.

africanfootball.com/news/734183/Hull-City-coach-still-keen-on-Ahmed-Musa

The Nigerian players that progressed through the junior ranks will always have an edge over these players that are probably not even monitored. Same problem. We need a standardized system for finding talents even in the domestic front. With our way of doing things, we will always get it wrong. We are not setting the right foundation for our coaches to succeed, yet we set crazy targets for them. It's called stupidity, when you keep doing things the same way and expect a different result.

komekn:


I find it hard to believe the NFF has not decided to give Dominic Iorfa a formalised invitation. Considering his young age but considerable experience in the championship. Where he won MOTM on his debut as a teenager and young player of the month 2014/15. When Omeruo was playing for Middlesbrough fc without being outstanding in the same season.

Is Omeruo better than Iorfa Or indeed for that matter is Shehu. I have asked if Shehu is better than Aina as well. Because it's seemingly accepted he us the best RB but in comparison to who

Eligreat247:


Ka onov mba Ayayatutu

Hooon se kpe! Hooon se kpe!!

AF Nigeria 2018 FIFA World Cup Qualifiers - Africa Nigeria
PLAYER SPOTLIGHT: Victor Moses - Nigerian's absence opens door for others to shine


Victor Moses of Nigeria and Chisamba Lungu of Zambia during the 2018 FIFA World Cup qualifier football match between Nigeria and Zambia on 07 October 2017 at Godswill Akpabio Stadium, Uyo, Nigeria ©Kabiru Abubakar/BackpagePix

by Bertin Basson

Wednesday Nov 08, 2017. 10:00

In absence of Victor Moses, others will get the chance to shine as Nigeria cap off their 2018 FIFA World Cup qualifying campaign with an away match to Algeria.


Having already qualified for next years showpiece, this weekend's clash is a mere formality with their trip to the North African country to be followed by a friendly game against Argentina in Russia as they step up their World Cup preparations.


The Super Eagles, though, will be without Chelsea utility player Victor Moses for the two upcoming matches. The 26-year-old has been out of action for three weeks, since suffering a hamstring injury against Crystal Palace mid October.


Blues boss Antonio Conte last week said that he would not rush a return for Moses, with many noticing his impact since being forced to the sidelines.


With no Moses, Nigeria head coach Gernot Rohr has an opportunity to look at other players with the World Cup eight months away.


The likes of Alex Iwobi has already staked his claim, but Ahmed Musa and Henry Onyekuru are among those who will be eager make an impact in an attempt to pen down a starting spot.

africanfootball.com/news/734187/PLAYER-SPOTLIGHT-Victor-Moses-Nigerians-absence-opens-door-for-others-to-shine

Exclusive – Mikel Pulls Out Of Eagles Clash Against Algeria, Argentina Due To Injury
November 8, 2017010

Super Eagles and Bursaspor of Turkey midfielder Mikel Agu has pulled out of the Nigeria squad ahead of upcoming games against Algeria and Argentina on the 10th and 14th of this month respectively.

Agu was an injury doubt going into the game due to the knock he sustained in his club’s last league game against Kasimpasa that lead to his substitution.

He trained normally with the team yesterday, but failed to make today’s morning session after the doctors advised the midfielder to seek proper medical care.

Unconfirmed report has it that he has already left the camp of the team to his base in Turkey, where he will receive proper medical treatment for the knee injury.

Maxwell Pius

--OGN

Moses favorite for Player of the Year award - Agali



Former Super Eagles Striker, Victor Agali has described Victor Moses’ performances for both club and country last season as enough to fetch him the African Player of the Year award.


Moses and William Troost-Ekong are two Nigerians listed by CAF with 28 others chosen for the prestigious award.


Nigeria’s Junior Ajayi, who plays for Al Ahly of Egypt, will compete for the African Player of the Year award based in Africa.


Commenting on the award, Agali said Moses excelled more than the other players in terms of achievement for club and country in the year under review.


“I can speak well of Victor Moses, who I think has been doing tremendously well with his club, Chelsea. He is one of the players that was instrumental to the club winning the English Premier League title this year. Moses was consistent with a big role on his shoulders for the Super Eagles, where his impressive performances also led to Nigeria qualifying for next year’s World Cup in Russia.


“Another high profile player that I will pick is Gabon’s Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang. Although Aubameyang, who plays for Borussia Dortmund, also did well, he is not on top for his country unlike Moses’ influence for Chelsea and Nigeria and for that reason I will pick Moses ahead of him,” he said.


Agali, who said he did not really know much about Ajayi’s exploits with Al Ahly of Egypt, added: “It will be difficult for me to comment on the Africa-based player award. But I hope it turns out well for Ajayi since he also played in the CAF Champions League.”

www.soccernet.com.ng/2017/11/moses-favorite-for-player-of-year-award.html

Onyekuru, and Iwobi's chance in the absence of Simon and Moses

terzurum5:
AF Nigeria 2018 FIFA World Cup Qualifiers - Africa Nigeria
PLAYER SPOTLIGHT: Victor Moses - Nigerian's absence opens door for others to shine


Victor Moses of Nigeria and Chisamba Lungu of Zambia during the 2018 FIFA World Cup qualifier football match between Nigeria and Zambia on 07 October 2017 at Godswill Akpabio Stadium, Uyo, Nigeria ©Kabiru Abubakar/BackpagePix

by Bertin Basson

Wednesday Nov 08, 2017. 10:00

In absence of Victor Moses, others will get the chance to shine as Nigeria cap off their 2018 FIFA World Cup qualifying campaign with an away match to Algeria.


Having already qualified for next years showpiece, this weekend's clash is a mere formality with their trip to the North African country to be followed by a friendly game against Argentina in Russia as they step up their World Cup preparations.


The Super Eagles, though, will be without Chelsea utility player Victor Moses for the two upcoming matches. The 26-year-old has been out of action for three weeks, since suffering a hamstring injury against Crystal Palace mid October.


Blues boss Antonio Conte last week said that he would not rush a return for Moses, with many noticing his impact since being forced to the sidelines.


With no Moses, Nigeria head coach Gernot Rohr has an opportunity to look at other players with the World Cup eight months away.


The likes of Alex Iwobi has already staked his claim, but Ahmed Musa and Henry Onyekuru are among those who will be eager make an impact in an attempt to pen down a starting spot.

africanfootball.com/news/734187/PLAYER-SPOTLIGHT-Victor-Moses-Nigerians-absence-opens-door-for-others-to-shine

Mikel arrives in Super Eagles camp

Super Eagles captain John Obi Mikel should feature in the two training sessions lined up for the national team on Wednesday having finally linked up with his teammates in Rabat, Morocco.


Eagles' media officer Toyin Ibitoye have confirmed that the Tianjin Teda stalwart is now with the national team in their campsite in Morocco.


"Yes Mikel is in camp, we are going to have two sessions today and he would be part of it," Ibitoye said while serving updates from the Eagles camp in Rabat.


On Friday, the Super Eagles, with the Russia 2018 World Cup ticket already in their pocket, will fly to Constantine, where they face the Fennecs at the Stade Mohamed Hamlaoui from 8.30pm Algeria time on Friday.


On Saturday, the Nigerian team will fly aboard a chartered flight to Krasnodar, the Russian city that will host Tuesday’s international friendly against Argentina.

www.soccernet.com.ng/2017/11/mikel-arrives-in-super-eagles-camp.html

safarigirl:
the real problem is that foolish children think it's cool to rub sand in the face of adults.

Joebie, see ehn, sometimes, it is better to say nothing than to say everything. Tammy apparently doesn't know that, you must not answer every question. There ate some you should deflect fron

You are her defending Tammy and accusing one imaginary system for the utterances of Tammy, but like goldfish said, what this boy has done will ruin the chances of many others especially English-bred kids.

You see that complaint Komekn makes that things are tough? They will be tougher henceforth. That is what we should reflect on, even those who have declared may not get a look in anymore.

It is that bad

Firstly, Tega has been part of the age group national set up for a very long time and he has been groomed to be an England player.

However, Amaju didn't help matters with overt display of recruitment in the public arena.

As a consequence Tega found himself under immense unprecedented pressure to show allegiance to England. The issue went beyond Tega to national identity and allegiance of loyalty.

Tega wanted to play for Nigeria. He found himself in a no win situation. Between a rock and a hard place. If he commits to Nigeria he would have been slated and slaughtered by the English media and populace with that great public hostility impacting on his career negatively. Vice versa if he commits to England he would recieve unguarded abuse and hostility from some Nigerians. Which is essentially being reflected here by many with a lack of understanding.

I will say it's not over till it's over he may still do a Zaha.

Luckily team selection is not made on sentiment and emotive prejudice based on personal subjective impressionistic judgement.

Tough is relative which is tougher is a question of perspective. It will now be a lot easier for Nigeria origin players.