Joebie:
yes what we have here is #TeamProForeign, #TeamHomegrown, and #TeamPerformance.
I belong to the latter. If you identify a NIGERIAN that is really good, then make the "approach". But how do you approach? We need to take a long term approach towards solving everything for that matter in Nigeria. I've given my suggestion as regards approaching those players in diaspora, else we will miss out on some special players in future. The Omidiji example should never be a standard. We should stop being lazy. If we must fix things domestically, we would still need working systems. And you don't find working systems overnight.

Modified
And #TeamAntiForeign, who are the team version of racists, tribalists etc

How feasible are these solution of yours? From what I've read so far, you're proffering a scatter gun approach not a well structured plan.

How do you identify a really good player? Is it when such an individual is playing in his father's garage? You can only identify a good player if he's playing organised football!

What is organised football? Organised football is a league structured football.

Now, the exceptional players have already started playing for their adopted countries before they sign their first professional contracts.

I ask, do you want the Nff go hunting in London high schools to scout for Nigerians who have soccer potentials? This is the only way you can beat their adopted countries from getting them first.

This is not a solution. I haven't heard about any country in the world whose standard practice is to scout for players with this begging approach. Are we that desperate? Are these guys worth all the headache? How many championships have they won for their adopted countries?

Scouting for talents abroad is not the solution to the problem of Nigerian football. Brazil have the highest number of players playing for other countries, yet they still manage to be a force in football and always make the world cup finals.

For every Diego Costa or Thiago Motta they have tens of worthy replacements. This is the position I would like Nigeria to attain, not going cap in hands to beg small boys to come play for us.

Some pictures from camp

Bro, I think it's presumptuous of you to assume that you'll understand the current Super Eagles team, based solely on watching some of these players on TV, better than Gernot Rohr who has trained them, interacted with them, watch them play and video analyzed their games over the past several months. Here's one thing you'd understand: watching the game on television is dramatically different from watching it live. In addition, coach Rohr has a video analyst who helps him breakdown each player's game - frame by frame. Talking from experience, it would open your eyes when a coach goes over your game frame by frame.

And if you think that experience doesn't count when it comes to coaching then I really don't know what else to say. Yes, Jose Mourinho may had dabbled into coaching with zero experience (if that's the case), but that's the exception NOT the rule. Not many of us here is Mourinho.


O pari

komekn:


How do you know that

And so what You are making assumption upon assumption garnished with more presumptuous deductions underpinned with nothing but fresh air.

Mourinho was a Translator in Barcelona when Rohr was coaching, possibly Pep wasn't born when Rohr was involved in football. But who is Rohr comparedto them now. Indeed in the scheme of world football management where would Rohr be ranked despite his Methusela experience.

Because you played football doesn't mean you will.be a great coach and or manager.

If Rohr wanted to Manage a league one team in England would he even be considered.

Some of the players some of us know up close and personal too. Rohr sees them for a few weeks at a time. What about coaches and team that work with them week in week out for years.

So talk for yourself and nobody else.

Yes, Rohr was totally outcoached by Stuart Baxter but I still think that he's got more resources at his disposal (coaching experience, playing experience, video analyst, assistant coaches, taking them thru drills etc etc) than most of us here in the forum.

Again, like I explained to Icon4s, I wasn't trying to say that nobody should question Rohr or that we shouldn't engage in discussing tactics and techniques. However, I was just asking our members to tone it down a bit. The people who are doing the job are no fools .... they people understand most of these things better than most of us.


O pari

kennysville:

I disagree with the bolded. Case in point Nigeria Vs SA game. He goofed big time. That will forever be an albatross hanging over his head.

Naijaphobia:



Una funny oh! Wetin make Germany come begin do if dem hear wetin Balogun and Deji talk about where their allegiance dey? Dem for dey wail like us abi?Even when these guys were born there and never stepped on Naija soil.Maybe we should learn to admit we win some we lose some but doesn't stop us from trying.

Fact! Tammy et al by history still have their roots here and that can't be denied.

Our hypocrisy and ungraciousness is disgusting. Imagine the barrage of foul words hurled at Tammy. To get a picture of the wickedness in our hearts just imagine if we were England and Iwobi ditched us. Chai, he'd be dead by now. The men would have gone to burn down his house, chase him away from his club and drive him out of the country, the women would line the streets and murder him with invectives.
But Iwobi ditched England for Nigeria. Yet he lives in London, moves around freely, plays in an elite football club. Contrast it with the empty, puerile wailings and cursings frothing from the mouths of our people 'Tammy has disgraced Nigeria ooo, God punish him papa' yadayada yadayada. I just dey laugh. We no gat no clue wetin be disgrace.

Are the English saints? No! If he had chosen Nigeria the British press would surely decry their loss but I doubt if they get so gross and start cursing the young man and his lineage. No matter how wicked they are the fact is Iwobi and Ola Aina are still enjoying a good life in the UK notwithstanding their switch.

Tammy go and succeed jare. Roar like a Lion. The roaring of the Lions will never prevent the soaring of the Eagles. Let me convert an Igbo proverb for my use :let the Lion perch, let the Eagle also perch, the one that says taaaa to the other, let his paw or wings break.

jotey:
Some pictures from camp

That's my boy Ebuehi. Good one jotey

Mikel Agu is out of the Algerian/Argentina games. Looks like he got injured.

goldfish80:

How feasible are these solution of yours? From what I've read so far, you're proffering a scatter gun approach not a well structured plan.

How do you identify a really good player? Is it when such an individual is playing in his father's garage? You can only identify a good player if he's playing organised football!

What is organised football? Organised football is a league structured football.

Now, the exceptional players have already started playing for their adopted countries before they sign their first professional contracts.

I ask, do you want the Nff go hunting in London high schools to scout for Nigerians who have soccer potentials? This is the only way you can beat their adopted countries from getting them first.

This is not a solution. I haven't heard about any country in the world whose standard practice is to scout for players with this begging approach. Are we that desperate? Are these guys worth all the headache? How many championships have they won for their adopted countries?

Scouting for talents abroad is not the solution to the problem of Nigerian football. Brazil have the highest number of players playing for other countries, yet they still manage to be a force in football and always make the world cup finals.

For every Diego Costa or Thiago Motta they have tens of worthy replacements. This is the position I would like Nigeria to attain, not going cap in hands to beg small boys to come play for us.

Your position is lucidly stated. But you fail to realise that in a certain sense all our players are foreign imports. All of them. Not only the FB players but the Nigerian born players- all of them are foreign imports. So if we'd go by your position what it means is that we develop our league to the point where all or majority of the players in our national team are home based players.

So while it might look like it's popular to say 'we are not going to beg any FB player', remember that we are in a certain sense 'begging' our naija born foreign based players(if you doubt that we are not begging please let's take our local league players to the world cup).

So let's get things clear: Either we develop our league or we continue to 'beg'(as in depend) foreign based players whether foreign born or naija born. That's how it should be properly stated. Not that you'd say go cap in hand to beg small boys to play for us specifically meaning foreign born players when you also' beg' naija born players based abroad for without them your team is dead.

I took time out to read a little bit about tactical football and I was left scratching my heads. I was way out of my depths with what I read not from Coaches and technical directors oo but just bloggers and tactical aficionados. I guess if it were coaches say Mourinho or Pep, it would just be pure mathematics to me.

Football is deeper, deeper than what we see on the pitch. If we think that football is kicking the ball, dribbling, scoring goals we are mistaken. It has gone far beyond that. Football has become(regrettably to me oo) too scientific, too tactical. So much so that when our players leave Nigeria they'd have to unlearn so many things and learn anew the sciences that underpins modern football. I believe this is what is happening to Osimhen.

Is the science beyond the grasp of our local leagues? No but we simply do not have the facilities, the structure and frame to currently succeed at a high level. When are we going to have those facilities? We would have them when we have good, well equipped hospitals, good roads, constant electricity supply, clean, eco friendly cities, good schools. Our football will sink or rise with other aspects of our national life because our football is no more important than other sectors of our national life. So anybody saying we need good structures, good leagues for the sake of only our football should get realistic, go deeper and call for the total development of the Nigerian society.

I had said I would break it down. What you should have done was ask me questions as regards the area you are not clear. because this your response is actually a scatter gun approach.
I never said we should go scouting them in their schools. And in having a system there should already be a structured league. Have I said anything contrary to that. We have a system were if I as you or safarigirl to name the top 5 Nigerian under 17 talents playing domestically, we simply cant. But we always do is wait for validation from oyibos. fourfourtwo is currently compiling a list of top 100 teens, and I have already counted Tomori, and Ejaria in that list. We can't do the same here because were are not even organized in the home front. yet someone is saying we have talents in Nigeria. If I ask you to fish them out won't you grow gray hairs.
Now, back to the system I was proposing, I had said in their "early teens" (as regards those in diaspora). How do we do that? so what you do is ask what i meant before you shoot down the idea.
Let me ask you. Do we have a diaspora bill? The last time I heard it was passing through reading in the senate or whatever. Will it see the light of day? My friend through our embassies abroad, there should be a special unit. There should be arrangement on ground so that parents of these kids can tap into it early. The laws should be there. The process should be there. And the information should be readily available.
I have more to say. But I'm waiting for you to do the right thing. Which is ask before you start shooting your machine gun.

goldfish80:

How feasible are these solution of yours? From what I've read so far, you're proffering a scatter gun approach not a well structured plan.

How do you identify a really good player? Is it when such an individual is playing in his father's garage? You can only identify a good player if he's playing organised football!

What is organised football? Organised football is a league structured football.

Now, the exceptional players have already started playing for their adopted countries before they sign their first professional contracts.

I ask, do you want the Nff go hunting in London high schools to scout for Nigerians who have soccer potentials? This is the only way you can beat their adopted countries from getting them first.

This is not a solution. I haven't heard about any country in the world whose standard practice is to scout for players with this begging approach. Are we that desperate? Are these guys worth all the headache? How many championships have they won for their adopted countries?

Scouting for talents abroad is not the solution to the problem of Nigerian football. Brazil have the highest number of players playing for other countries, yet they still manage to be a force in football and always make the world cup finals.

For every Diego Costa or Thiago Motta they have tens of worthy replacements. This is the position I would like Nigeria to attain, not going cap in hands to beg small boys to come play for us.

Joebie:

I think it's stupid to wail about what a 19 year old boy feels or says. Identifying the real problem is wisdom. If he says we tried to roll a carpet on him then that's what it is. I'm still waiting for the NFF to refute that.

And why would the NFF do that? The boy is at liberty to say whatever he wishes, but a country's football Federation should not be reduced to exchanging words with a 19yr old foreign national in the media. At least not for something as petty as whether or not the Red carpet was rolled.

I talked about this same science many pages back, and I was laughed at. You are a great person/lawyer. In fact I like people who love to learn.

Mujtahida:
I took time out to read a little bit about tactical football and I was left scratching my heads. I was way out of my depths with what I read not from Coaches and technical directors oo but just bloggers and tactical aficionados. I guess if it were coaches say Mourinho or Pep, it would just be pure mathematics to me.

Football is deeper, deeper than what we see on the pitch. If we think that football is kicking the ball, dribbling, scoring goals we are mistaken. It has gone far beyond that. Football has become(regrettably to me oo) too scientific, too tactical. So much so that when our players leave Nigeria they'd have to unlearn so many things and learn anew the sciences that underpins modern football. I believe this is what is happening to Osimhen.

Is the science beyond our grasp of our local leagues? No but we simply do not have the facilities, the structure and frame to currently succeed at a high level. When are we going to have those facilities? We would have them when we have good, well equipped hospitals, good roads, constant electricity supply, clean, eco friendly cities, good schools. Our football will sink or rise with other aspects of our national life because our football is no more important than other sectors of our national life. So anybody saying we need good structures, good leagues for the sake of only our football should get realistic, go deeper and call for the total development of the Nigerian society.

Have anyone asked Amaju Pinnick to come clear about what really happened?
I read an article not too long ago at goal.com. It insinuated Pinnick should not be trusted.
Okay let's also act matured. Was Pinnick, saying he knows what to do etc and all the noise he made about getting Tammy a sign of maturity? How about we act in a mature manner and ignore the small talk of the 19 year old? Anyone under 20 here?

SerVik:

And why would the NFF do that? The boy is at liberty to say whatever he wishes, but a country's football Federation should not be reduced to exchanging words with a 19yr old foreign national in the media. At least not for something as petty as whether or not the Red carpet was rolled.

Rohr : We Want To See What Super Eagles Can Do Against Messi, Argentina



Super Eagles coach Gernot Rohr believes the national team's friendly against Argentina on November 14 in Krasnodar will test his team's true qualities ahead of the 2018 World Cup, and has hinted that a number of fringe players will get some minutes against the South American powerhouse.


Rohr thinks Barcelona superstar Lionel Messi still has a chance of featuring for La Albiceleste against Nigeria, but allnigeriasoccer.com understands that the number ten will return to Spain immediately after Saturday's game against Russia.


''We only have two days to prepare because the game (against Algeria) is on Friday,'' Rohr told the Nigeria Football Federation via Twitter.


''We will have an opportunity to see everybody in the second game, second game is fantastic also because Argentina is one of the best teams in the world, perhaps the best player in the world (Messi), so we can see what they are able to do against a South American team if we have them in our group in the World Cup.


''It is also an opportunity to see Russia and the atmosphere there and to see perhaps our base camp, so it is already a repeat preparation for the World Cup.''


On Saturday, the Nigerian team will fly aboard a chartered flight to Krasnodar, the Russian city that will host Tuesday’s international friendly against Argentina.

Igho Kingsley

www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=25344

Mujtahida:

Your position is lucidly stated. But you fail to realise that in a certain sense all our players are foreign imports. All of them. Not only the FB players but the Nigerian born players- all of them are foreign imports. So if we'd go by your position what it means is that we develop our league to the point where all or majority of the players in our national team are home based players.

So while it might look like it's popular to say 'we are not going to beg any FB player', remember that we are in a certain sense 'begging' our naija born foreign based players(if you doubt that we are not begging please let's take our local league players to the world cup).

So let's get things clear: Either we develop our league or we continue to 'beg'(as in depend) foreign based players whether foreign born or naija born. That's how it should be properly stated. Not that you'd say go cap in hand to beg small boys to play for us specifically meaning foreign born players when you also' beg' naija born players based abroad for without them your team is dead.

Let em use an analogy to correct your first paragraph.
If an Aba tailor made a caftan for a client in USA and that same client wore the caftan back to Nigeria. Will you say that caftan was made in USA?

We aren't importing players, rather we are exporting players when these players come back and play for us, we are not importing them so to speak.

I know the reason why alot of people freak out when I talk about home grown is because of the fear that they may not get to see Nigerian players in Epl and Champions league because they will all be playing in the NPFL (anyone who says otherwise is lying to himself... Lol)

Look, that idea is very far from what I'm proposing.

When I talk about home grown, I am talking about a proper development channel where talented kids are captured and nurtured. Like we have special science schools, grammar schools, technical colleges and other specialized schools. We could also have football or sports schools.
They are currently doing this in India(I got to know about this when I handled a project for an Indian guy). In the near future India will be a force to reckon with at the Olympics like China and USA.

If we can have this sort of programme running in the country and a solid league system which will absorb these players. The result will be an unprecedented number of Nigerian Sports men going directly from Nigeria to top football clubs in the world.

There won't be a need to roll red carpets for anyone again. The reverse will be the case.

It is very cowardly and lazy to set up shop in Europe and hunt for Nigerian born individuals to roll red carpets when we have millions of untapped talents back home.

Breaking : GK Daniel Akpeyi Set For Super Eagles Workout, Arrives In Rabat



Allnigeriasoccer.com understands that Chippa United netminder Daniel Akpeyi has joined up with the Super Eagles at their get-together in Rabat, the Moroccan capital.


The former Warri Wolves star is expected to take part in the Super Eagles third training session this afternoon, starting from 1530 hours local time, having missed the morning session.


Akpeyi was due to report for international duty on Tuesday morning but encountered traveling difficulties and his trip was canceled at the last moment.


He has been in brilliant form since the start of the 2017-2018 season, posting five shutouts in his last nine matches for Chippa United.


This morning, the Super Eagles players did not workout in the gym and trained on the grass instead.


Nigeria will face Algeria on November 10 in their final 2018 World Cup qualifier before traveling to Russia for a high-profile friendly with Argentina scheduled to take place in Krasnodar on November 14.

Ifeanyi Emmanuel

www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=25343

Joebie:
Have anyone asked Amaju Pinnick to come clear about what really happened?
I read an article not too long ago at goal.com. It insinuated Pinnick should not be trusted.
Okay let's also act matured. Was Pinnick, saying he knows what to do etc and all the noise he made about getting Tammy a sign of maturity? How about we act in a mature manner and ignore the small talk of the 19 year old? Anyone under 20 here?

The deed has been done, mistakes have been made, lessons have been learnt. Time to move on, use the experience of this loss in our subsequent dealings.

We all make mistakes and pinick's was relying somewhat overly on his relationship with Mr. Abraham, and going ahead of himself to announce a switch when was not yet formal.

But Tammy has made his choice and we should respect that. I see no reason why the NFF should be sniffing around the Internet, waiting for Tammy to make a statement so they can refute. It is not worth it.

Mujtahida:
I took time out to read a little bit about tactical football and I was left scratching my heads. I was way out of my depths with what I read not from Coaches and technical directors oo but just bloggers and tactical aficionados. I guess if it were coaches say Mourinho or Pep, it would just be pure mathematics to me.

Football is deeper, deeper than what we see on the pitch. If we think that football is kicking the ball, dribbling, scoring goals we are mistaken. It has gone far beyond that. Football has become(regrettably to me oo) too scientific, too tactical. So much so that when our players leave Nigeria they'd have to unlearn so many things and learn anew the sciences that underpins modern football. I believe this is what is happening to Osimhen.

Is the science beyond our grasp of our local leagues? No but we simply do not have the facilities, the structure and frame to currently succeed at a high level. When are we going to have those facilities? We would have them when we have good, well equipped hospitals, good roads, constant electricity supply, clean, eco friendly cities, good schools. Our football will sink or rise with other aspects of our national life because our football is no more important than other sectors of our national life. So anybody saying we need good structures, good leagues for the sake of only our football should get realistic, go deeper and call for the total development of the Nigerian society.

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Didier Drogba Lined Up To Replace Michael Emenalo At Chelsea



Chelsea are considering the possibility of bringing Didier Drogba back to Stamford Bridge as replacement for former Nigeria international Michael Emenalo, who has resigned his appointment as Technical Director of the Premier League champion, as per reports.


The Telegraphis reporting that Emenalo’s departure could also pave the way for Abramovich to try again to bring former striker Didier Drogba back to the club in some capacity.


Hull City manager Leonid Slutsky is also being considered and can be offered a job at Chelsea in case he is dismissed from the post of head coach of his club.


Drogba scored over 150 goals across two different spells at Chelsea and is currently a player-owner at American club Phoenix Rising.


According to the publication, the post of Technical Director at Chelsea can be abolished, and the duties are distributed among other employees.


French Ligue 1 moneybags Monaco are interested in the services of Michael Emenalo .

Ifeanyi Emmanuel

www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=25341

Thank you!

Mujtahida:

Our hypocrisy and ungraciousness is disgusting. Imagine the barrage of foul words hurled at Tammy. To get a picture of the wickedness in our hearts just imagine if we were England and Iwobi ditched us. Chai, he'd be dead by now. The men would have gone to burn down his house, chase him away from his club and drive him out of the country, the women would line the streets and murder him with invectives.
But Iwobi ditched England for Nigeria. Yet he lives in London, moves around freely, plays in an elite football club. Contrast it with the empty, puerile wailings and cursings frothing from the mouths of our people 'Tammy has disgraced Nigeria ooo, God punish him papa' yadayada yadayada. I just dey laugh. We no gat no clue wetin be disgrace.

Are the English saints? No! If he had chosen Nigeria the British press would surely decry their loss but I doubt if they get so gross and start cursing the young man and his lineage. No matter how wicked they are the fact is Iwobi and Ola Aina are still enjoying a good life in the UK notwithstanding their switch.

Tammy go and succeed jare. Roar like a Lion. The roaring of the Lions will never prevent the soaring of the Eagles. Let me convert an Igbo proverb for my use :let the Lion perch, let the Eagle also perch, the one that says taaaa to the other, let his paw or wings break.

Icon79:
Yes, Rohr was totally outcoached by Stuart Baxter but I still think that he's got more resources at his disposal (coaching experience, playing experience, video analyst, assistant coaches, taking them thru drills etc etc) than most of us here in the forum.

Again, like I explained to Icon4s, I wasn't trying to say that nobody should question Rohr or that we shouldn't engage in discussing tactics and techniques. However, I was just asking our members to tone it down a bit. The people who are doing the job are no fools .... they people understand most of these things better than most of us.


O pari

Just a little hint. Some of us here have coaching certificates.

I am not bragging, I can plan and execute our tactics against Argentina if I am made to tutor the team for that game.

Those coaches are not super humans.

People should be free to discuss tactics here. It is our passion. And since it is our passion please don't hinder us.

lol.. then we should act likewise. Because if we want to call what Tammy said an embarrassment, I will have to seek the truth. I want to see the bottom of it all. Else, don't throw around curses like uncivilized people.

SerVik:

The deed has been done, mistakes have been made, lessons have been learnt. Time to move on, use the experience of this loss in our subsequent dealings.

We all make mistakes and pinick's was relying somewhat overly on his relationship with Mr. Abraham, and going ahead of himself to announce a switch when was not yet formal.

But Tammy has made his choice and we should respect that. I see no reason why the NFF should be sniffing around the Internet, waiting for Tammy to make a statement so they can refute. It is not worth it.

Nigeria: Lawal Advises Rohr to Try New Players Against Algeria, Argentina

By Samuel Ifetoye

Former Super Eagles' Midfielder, Garba Lawal has advised Coach Gernot Rohr to use the games against the Fennecs of Algeria and Argentina to test other players available for selection in the build to the Russia 2018 World Cup.


Nigeria meets Algeria on November 10 in the last Group B World Cup qualifier in Constantine, and four days later take on Argentina in an international friendly in Russia.


Speaking with The Guardian on the two games, Lawal said the players Rohr needs depends on the kind of formation he wants to experiment in the two games.


"I cannot think or say these are the players that Rohr should use in the two matches. It is left for him to think about who and who should be used. I want to believe sincerely that he will try to give some of these players the chance and it depends on him the kind of games he wants to play.


"Since we have already qualified for the World Cup and a game is coming after the Algeria. I believe Rohr knows better than us what he wants because he will like to use the best that he will take to the World Cup. And at times it depends on how injury free the team will be," he said.


Lawal, who was a member of Nigeria Football Federation's (NFF) technical study group, added that normally a coach does not like making a lot of changes in a team, adding, however, "I still believe he will give some players the opportunity to play.

No coach wants to do a lot of changes to a standing team. If he will do that, it might not be more than three to four players. Though he has already qualified but we still have to play against the Algerians for pride, and another test against the Argentines."

allafrica.com/stories/201711080570.html

Rohr – I Will Introduce Six New Players In The Starting Line Up Against Algeria

Coach of the Super Eagles of Nigeria Gernot Rohr has revealed that he could introduce as many as six new players in his starting line up when they take on Algeria on Friday.

Nigeria are up against Algeria in a dead rubber World Cup 2018 Qualifiers tie on Friday, and according to Rohr he would use the game to test some fringe players in his team.


” All the games are important, it’s right we have already qualified for the World Cup, so the result is not the most important, the most important in this game will be to play a good game”, Rohr said in an interview posted on the official twitter handle of the Super Eagles.


” We always play to make good games and good results , but it’s an opportunity for us to see some players who didn’t play so much during the qualifiers because we have our team, and now we have six injuries, so it will be at least six changes”.

Ade Emmanuel

owngoalnigeria.com/2017/11/08/rohr-i-will-introduce-six-new-players-in-the-starting-line-up-against-algeria/

People call systems "rolling carpet"
Do the Americans etc roll carpets for talented Nigerians to go over there and improve their skill/knowlege so they can add to that economy?
Did the Greek Basketball Association roll carpets to capture players in diaspora (referring to those Nigerian-decent basketballers in the US)?

My friend, your suggestion is not a suggestion. It is known. It seen by all. Fine, it's okay to copy and paste, but you and I know that it is a pipe dream. Everyone knows that we need a well structured league in Nigeria. But my position is having a system for players in diaspora to identify with us early does not scuttle our development plans, should we have one. Apples and Oranges. We don't even have one in the first place. Will we ever get it right here?
If we have to wait for utterances of 19 year olds to be reminded that we need to develop our own, then we are not true to ourselves. In fact, we are not serious. The consciousness to develop things in Nigeria for Nigerians should be ever-present to start with.
Are we babies. Nigeria is 57 years and we have to be reminded to develop our own thing? The 20 year old boy is just making choices and living his own life. PLEASE

goldfish80:



Let em use an analogy to correct your first paragraph.
If an Aba tailor made a caftan for a client in USA and that same client wore the caftan back to Nigeria. Will you say that caftan was made in USA?

We aren't importing players, rather we are exporting players when these players come back and play for us, we are not importing them so to speak.

I know the reason why alot of people freak out when I talk about home grown is because of the fear that they may not get to see Nigerian players in Epl and Champions league because they will all be playing in the NPFL (anyone who says otherwise is lying to himself... Lol)

Look, that idea is very far from what I'm proposing.

When I talk about home grown, I am talking about a proper development channel where talented kids are captured and nurtured. Like we have special science schools, grammar schools, technical colleges and other specialized schools. We could also have football or sports schools.
They are currently doing this in India(I got to know about this when I handled a project for an Indian guy). In the near future India will be a force to reckon with at the Olympics like China and USA.

If we can have this sort of programme running in the country and a solid league system which will absorb these players. The result will be an unprecedented number of Nigerian Sports men going directly from Nigeria to top football clubs in the world.

There won't be a need to roll red carpets for anyone again. The reverse will be the case.

It is very cowardly and lazy to set up shop in Europe and hunt for Nigerian born individuals to roll red carpets when we have millions of untapped talents back home.

Joebie:
I had said I would break it down. What you should have done was ask me questions as regards the area you are not clear. because this your response is actually a scatter gun approach.
I never said we should go scouting them in their schools. And in having a system there should already be a structured league. Have I said anything contrary to that. We have a system were if I as you or safarigirl to name the top 5 Nigerian under 17 talents playing domestically, we simply cant. But we always do is wait for validation from oyibos. fourfourtwo is currently compiling a list of top 100 teens, and I have already counted Tomori, and Ejaria in that list. We can't do the same here because were are not even organized in the home front. yet someone is saying we have talents in Nigeria. If I ask you to fish them out won't you grow gray hairs.
Now, back to the system I was proposing, I had said in their "early teens" (as regards those in diaspora). How do we do that? so what you do is ask what i meant before you shoot down the idea.
Let me ask you. Do we have a diaspora bill? The last time I heard it was passing through reading in the senate or whatever. Will it see the light of day? My friend through our embassies abroad, there should be a special unit. There should be arrangement on ground so that parents of these kids can tap into it early. The laws should be there. The process should be there. And the information should be readily available.
I have more to say. But I'm waiting for you to do the right thing. Which is ask before you start shooting your machine gun.

I stopped reading when I read the lines (if asked to scout for talents I will grow grey hairs)
Maybe you don't know, the likes of Emmanuel Babayaro and various agents from South America and Europe are making a fortune by scouting for talents and exporting them to Europe and Asia.

If Emmanuel Babayaro had this same mindset like you do, he will probably be on nairaland front page begging for money to pay for his medical bills.

So you think Kanu Nwankwo will be willing to fund a football academy if he thinks there's a dearth of talents in Owerri?

I want you to understand something very clearly, in every street in Nigeria, you will find atleast one exceptionally gifted player.

If you're looking for already made players in Nigeria, I'm sorry, you won't find them. But if you're looking for talents or potentials them full brekete.

Algeria clash will help Eagles – Adepoju

’Tana Aiyejina

Mutiu Adepoju says Friday’s 2018 World Cup qualifier between Algeria and Nigeria in Constantine is very crucial to the Super Eagles’ preparations ahead of the Mundial.


The Eagles are the first African side to qualify for next year’s World Cup in Russia after amassing 13 points in Group B that also has Africa champions Cameroon and Zambia. The three-time African champions won four and drew one of their previous qualifiers to secure the group’s ticket to Russia.


But Adepoju, who represented Nigeria at the 1994 and 1998 World Cups, said despite the Eagles’ World Cup qualification the Algeria tie would help kick-start the Eagles’ preparations ahead of the trip to Russia.


“Even though we’ve qualified for the World Cup, the match should serve as one of the team’s preparatory games for the tournament because there’s no time. I believe the game is as important as the World Cup,” the former Racing Santander midfielder, who was a member of the Korea/Japan 2002 World Cup squad, said.


Speaking further, the 1994 Africa Cup of Nations winner stated that the exclusion of key players like Victor Moses, Moses Simon, Ogenyi Onazi and Odion Ighalo from the Constantine encounter would not affect the squad, adding that the players called up to replace them would give a good account of themselves.


“Twenty-three players are going to the World Cup and anyone called up merits their place on the squad. The new players should be able to hold their own and exhibit the same kind of performances these injured players are known for in the national team.”


Meanwhile, the Eagles began training in Rabat, Morocco, on Tuesday ahead of Friday’s game at the Stade Mohamed Hamlaoui in Constantine.


The majority of the players invited by Nigeria coach Gernot Rohr for the World Cup qualifier and the friendly game against Argentina in Krasnodar, Russia, on Tuesday have reported to camp.


The Eagles are expected to leave Algeria for Russia on Saturday.

punchng.com/algeria-clash-will-help-eagles-adepoju/

Nigeria U20 Prospect Timotey Atmanuan Making Waves In Israel, Wins MOTM Again

Relatively unknown Nigerian midfielder Timotey Atmanuan has become the talk of many fans of second division Israeli side Hapoel Bnei Lod with his commanding display in the midfield of the team.


Atmanuan was scouted by popular Israeli scout David Ouziel during one of his scouting tournament in Nigeria, precisely in Abuja and the 18 year old was originally billed to join Hapoel Tel Aviv.


However Hapoel Tel Aviv were having financial difficulties hence the decision to move the box to box midfielder to second division side Hapoel Bnei Lod, where he has so far taken the league by storm.


Upon arrival he was drafted to the U19 team but after just two games for the team, the president of the team ordered for the immediate promotion of the midfielder to the main team and so far he has not look out of his depth.


He has been ever present for them since his promotion to the main team with a goal to his name from the defensive midfield position and two Man of the Match award.


Heavily tipped to be a part of the next set of U20 players of Nigeria, there are indications that he could leave Hapoel Bnei Lod sooner than many expected owing to his good form so far.

Osas Mahawi

owngoalnigeria.com/2017/11/07/nigeria-u20-prospect-timotey-atmanuan-making-waves-in-israel-wins-motm-again/

Algeria Star : Nigeria Not Coming As Tourists, We Won't Take Game Lightly



Nimes defender Liassine Bentaïba Cadamuro has opined that the Super Eagles will be competitive when they face the Algerian National Team on Friday, even though they have already qualified for the World Cup.


Desert Foxes coach Rabah Madjer has summoned Cadamuro for the upcoming games against Nigeria and Central African Republic due to his versatility as he can operate as a right back, central defender or left back.


''Qualification for the World Cup has not been achieved, but this match against Nigeria will serve us to prepare for the next African Cup of Nations,'' Cadamuro said to Le Buteur.


''Nigeria qualified and had a very good playoff phase. I do not think, however, that they will come as tourists, even if they are sure to finish first in the group.


''It's up to us to prepare well this week in order to approach the meeting. We should not take this game lightly.''


Cadamuro was a non-playing substitute when the Super Eagles beat Algeria 3-1 on match day two of the 2018 World Cup qualifiers in November 2016.

Igho Kingsley

www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=25327

Oga that was a question for you. I'm aware of the academies in this country. so does that now translate to having an organized league?
my friend the question really was can you mention top 5 U17 players domestically. I can sit here on my computer and name players abroad by just researching online. Why? because there is an organized league there. can you name the top 5 academy players in Nigeria?
I hope you get my point now.
Stop making a whole different arguement

goldfish80:


I stopped reading when I read the lines (if asked to scout for talents I will grow grey hairs)
Maybe you don't know, the likes of Emmanuel Babayaro and various agents from South America and Europe are making a fortune by scouting for talents and exporting them to Europe and Asia.

If Emmanuel Babayaro had this same mindset like you do, he will probably be on nairaland front page begging for money to pay for his medical bills.

So you think Kanu Nwankwo will be willing to fund a football academy if he thinks there's a dearth of talents in Owerri?

I want you to understand something very clearly, in every street in Nigeria, you will find atleast one exceptionally gifted player.

If you're looking for already made players in Nigeria, I'm sorry, you won't find them. But if you're looking for talents or potentials them full brekete.

goldfish80:



Let em use an analogy to correct your first paragraph.
If an Aba tailor made a caftan for a client in USA and that same client wore the caftan back to Nigeria. Will you say that caftan was made in USA?

We aren't importing players, rather we are exporting players when these players come back and play for us, we are not importing them so to speak.

I know the reason why alot of people freak out when I talk about home grown is because of the fear that they may not get to see Nigerian players in Epl and Champions league because they will all be playing in the NPFL (anyone who says otherwise is lying to himself... Lol)

Look, that idea is very far from what I'm proposing.

When I talk about home grown, I am talking about a proper development channel where talented kids are captured and nurtured. Like we have special science schools, grammar schools, technical colleges and other specialized schools. We could also have football or sports schools.
They are currently doing this in India(I got to know about this when I handled a project for an Indian guy). In the near future India will be a force to reckon with at the Olympics like China and USA.

If we can have this sort of programme running in the country and a solid league system which will absorb these players. The result will be an unprecedented number of Nigerian Sports men going directly from Nigeria to top football clubs in the world.

There won't be a need to roll red carpets for anyone again. The reverse will be the case.

It is very cowardly and lazy to set up shop in Europe and hunt for Nigerian born individuals to roll red carpets when we have millions of untapped talents back home.

Did you really just use that analogy in your first paragraph? Please go and ask Mikel, Kanu, Jay Jay who moulded them footballwise. Your analogy is imperfect. What you sent to America is not caftan. It was material you sent to America. You know how I know? Why don't you use the kaftans you have at home whenever you are going for a party? You don't because they are simply not good enough. I have no illusions. Nigeria is a country of great potential. Potential. That's what it is. In actuality, we not there yet.
This is where I'd embrace the second limb of your posts. But I will still reiterate my earlier point: What happens to your hospitals, what happens to your schools? What happens to your roads? Do your Engineers build your bridges or make your cars? Football is not the ultimate. We must aim to develop every part of our society.

goldfish80:

How feasible are these solution of yours? From what I've read so far, you're proffering a scatter gun approach not a well structured plan.

How do you identify a really good player? Is it when such an individual is playing in his father's garage? You can only identify a good player if he's playing organised football!

What is organised football? Organised football is a league structured football.

Now, the exceptional players have already started playing for their adopted countries before they sign their first professional contracts.

I ask, do you want the Nff go hunting in London high schools to scout for Nigerians who have soccer potentials? This is the only way you can beat their adopted countries from getting them first.

This is not a solution. I haven't heard about any country in the world whose standard practice is to scout for players with this begging approach. Are we that desperate? Are these guys worth all the headache? How many championships have they won for their adopted countries?

Scouting for talents abroad is not the solution to the problem of Nigerian football. Brazil have the highest number of players playing for other countries, yet they still manage to be a force in football and always make the world cup finals.

For every Diego Costa or Thiago Motta they have tens of worthy replacements. This is the position I would like Nigeria to attain, not going cap in hands to beg small boys to come play for us.

In 2013 John Fashanu brought a team of U18 players from Nigeria. Who were called the Nigeria all stars seemingly selected from a national competition from across Nigeria. At least that's how it was marketed here. I don't if anybody knows about this.

They were set up to play Manchester United and City thier U18 teams. There was great anticipation.

As a warm up game two private football academies based in the NW England were merged to play against the highly esteemed Nigeria all stars.

There were a lot of club scouts including the head of recruitment at Fulham who were in the EPL at the time.

They played the game expecting to be beaten but would try to keep the scoreline respectable. In the end they beat the Nigeria all stars 8-1. Only one player was selected to go on trial at Fulham. He was a English born Nigerian striker.

There is no EPL academy in the UK that doesn't have Nigerian origin players. When you go to the London city Region that number becomes double % figures.

Do you really think there are not quite a few other Tega's in the system. There are but our NFF esteemed scouting crew do not want to work and do thier job properly. Waiting for the English FA to identify players for Nigeria. Then we try to reap where we did not sow.

Dele Alli and Seyi Ojo were in lowly MK dons but propelled with rapid speed to the EPL.

Where was the esteemed faceless unquestionable scouting crew.

How much better for Nigeria and to the shame of the English FA as well as giving them a bloody nose. By picking and selecting a players before them.

All this talk if Tega played for Nigeria he would be given far more opportunity and longevity is assumption.

How much Fair-Play, longevity, honour and respect were given to Hope Akpan, Sone Aluko, Victor Anichebe. Our history of treatment to Nigerian origin players in England is far from exemplary.

It was Berti Vogts thar gave Danny Shittu the chance to play for Nigeria not the NFF. Outside of Yobo from the millennium in my opinion the best Nigerian center back of that era.