CAF Best XI in the WCQ series
Our very own VicMo and Leon Balogun made the cut......Impressive I must say



The list included Al Ahly’s left back Aly Maaloul after he shined with the Tunisian national team. The lineup has also seen the presence of Uganda goalkeeper Denis Onyango, Senegal’s Sadio Mane and Nigeria’s Victor Moses.

World Cup Qualifiers XI:

Denis Onyango (Uganda); Serge Aurier (Ivory Coast), Ahmed Hegazi (Egypt), Leon Balogun (Nigeria), Aly Maaloul (Tunisia); Victor Moses (Nigeria), Sadio Mane (Senegal), Youssef Msakni (Tunisia), Mbark Boussoufa (Morocco), Khalid Boutain (Morocco); Mohamed Salah (Egypt).

what is the time for the match...

https://www.yoursoccerblog.com/top-10-youth-prospects-england-2017/

Carlos122:
what is the time for the match...


https://www.yoursoccerblog.com/top-10-youth-prospects-england-2017/

Kick off time: 8:30pm Nigerian Time

junnyjake:



You keep talking Fair play, Fair play. The fact that you're foreign born and have decided to play for us doesn't guarantee you an automatic place in the team.

Hope Akpan showed promise, but was injured and we couldn't see more of him. Other midfielders took his place and the coaches were happy with what those who replaced him had achieved.


Sone Aluko is a player I love, he's got passion, and he's the only one I'd fault the coaches for not giving him a lookin.

Anichebe injury ruined this guy's career, he had lot of promise and would have been a force to reckon with in the EPL. Remember he rejected a call up to join the 2013 AFCON winning Eagles, saying he wanted to focus on his Club Career. We went on to win the AFCON with Ideye, Uche and Eminike and didn't see the need for him no more. Iheanacho and Ighalo came along at some point.


If you want your absence to be felt, fine! Bit pray to God those lurking around the corner waiting for you to blink so they replace you aren't as good as you or even better. Who'd be clamoring for Enyeama if not for Ikeme's present condition??

I would because Enyeama is simply much better no argument .

The way we discard players is baffling. Hope got injured playing for Nigeria and then we said bye bye. Is that how a players should be treated Who replaced him and where they actually better

Injury was an issue but it wasn't the only issue. Anichebe withdrew himself in discontent.

Sone Aluko was discarded because he didn't play ball and agree to settle. Finito.

All these players that were discarded at the core if the problem. They do not understand the politics of settlement in Nigerian football in the first instance. Secondly the concept is so alien to them it's abhorrent.

NFF also know that these boys will not settle they are not desperate. That's why they keep inviting them on the pages of newspapers and on the media and giving. msinformation. That some of us wilfully gobble up without drinking water sef.

We are Nigerians let's not pretend we know without an iota of doubt. What is normal, endemic and ingrained practice in our institutions.

Mujtahida:



Sir, this is the blind spot in your argument. You fail to recognise the evolution of the sport. Football has evolved from a mere sport to a socio - economic endeavour with its own unique business ecosystem which has organic ties with every other national socio-economic endeavour. Football is economy, it's business, it's money. Ask the Brits what the EPL means to their economy.




I regard foreign based players as imports unless you can make use of our home based players for competitions like the World Cup. There's an evolution in the game you are not tracking: first our teams used to be wholly home based players(70's - mid 80's), next a mix of homebased and foreign based( late 80's -mid 2000's) next wholly foreign based (2010-2014 bar Keshi's 2013 experiment) next foreign based with a mixture of Naija born and foreign born players of Nigerian descent (2014-present). Who knows maybe one day our team will be wholly foreign born players (na joke oo).



I agree totally. There's abundant talent in Nigeria not just in football but across all sectors even in science and technology. The numbers in science and technology might not be much but they are there. The question remains: What have we done with our talents? Remove Europe from the equation and tell me what we have done with the talents at our disposal.

That means that the entire national, team is imported.

Not one of them plays in Nigeria, so all this talk of being born or not in Nigeria is really academic.

yes, the problem is we recount our successes in the under age category, and think that SHOULD translate to success in the senior level. And even many of us consider ourselves a powerhouse in Africa. This thinking is MOSTLY from our successes at the under-age category. But let truth be told --- and this is not exclusive to Nigeria -- many players from the U17 tournaments rarely live up to the expectation at the senior level. I think I compiled a list of players who really made a breakthrough from our U17 classes some pages back, and it was crystal clear that we HAD an average of only 3 players from all our Golden Eaglets classes to really make it to the Super Eagles. Many of which did not have long careers in the Super Eagles. Now I'm not even talking about those who really had successful careers.

To have a system where we can connect with players in diaspora is a great thing. Parent who want their children to represent Nigeria will register their wards early. There should be some form of synergy and relationship building, such that players in diaspora who are interested in representing us can readily get information they need and have access to the NFF. People call that opening a shop, or beggin. laughable.

As regards Iorfa, you will find some who will say when we wanted him, he turned us down, so now we don't need him. How people reason really baffles me.

komekn:


Football is not about sentimental loyalty or emotive preference. That essentially enthrones mediocrity.

Let's be true, Omeruo is player that seems to have peaked at U17 level. Promised much bet delivered very little. He is a Chelsea player in name not in practice and will never smell the Chelsea team. Hence the indignity of having to train with the Chelsea U18 team.

Is he really the best we have When Dominic Iorfa was winning MOTM awards and best young player in the league in 2014 /15 Omeruo was playing for Middlesbrough. He didn't have an outstanding season. If we are to compare the two of them who would you rather have. If sentimental loyalty is removed and objective measurement used there is no competition.

So why is Omeruo there, can we assume that your relationship with the NFF powers that be, maybe paramount in maintaining your position. I wonder

There is a trend that's becoming irrefutable. That is that golden Eagles youth players have first option and consideration to the SE. It's not based on present continous consistent performances or improvement but past youth football glories.

That trend was seen with Osimhen, Nwakali, Succes, Agu, Awazeim, and others waiting in the wings.

The Golden standard is that transgresses all national football associations is that your club performance is the basis for selection with very few exceptions. That's not the standard we use.

If VicMo no dey who go dey?

nelszx:
CAF Best XI in the WCQ series
Our very own VicMo and Leon Balogun made the cut......Impressive I must say



The list included Al Ahly’s left back Aly Maaloul after he shined with the Tunisian national team. The lineup has also seen the presence of Uganda goalkeeper Denis Onyango, Senegal’s Sadio Mane and Nigeria’s Victor Moses.

World Cup Qualifiers XI:

Denis Onyango (Uganda); Serge Aurier (Ivory Coast), Ahmed Hegazi (Egypt), Leon Balogun (Nigeria), Aly Maaloul (Tunisia); Victor Moses (Nigeria), Sadio Mane (Senegal), Youssef Msakni (Tunisia), Mbark Boussoufa (Morocco), Khalid Boutain (Morocco); Mohamed Salah (Egypt).

komekn:


I would because Enyeama is simply much better no argument .

The way we discard players is baffling. Hope got injured playing for Nigeria and then we said bye bye. Is that how a players should be treated Who replaced him and where they actually better

Injury was an issue but it wasn't the only issue. Anichebe withdrew himself in discontent.

Sone Aluko was discarded because he didn't play ball and agree to settle. Finito.

All these players that were discarded at the core if the problem. They do not understand the politics of settlement in Nigerian football in the first instance. Secondly the concept is so alien to them it's abhorrent.

NFF also know that these boys will not settle they are not desperate. That's why they keep inviting them on the pages of newspapers and on the media and giving. msinformation. That some of us wilfully gobble up without drinking water sef.

We are Nigerians let's not pretend we know without an iota of doubt. What is normal, endemic and ingrained practice in our institutions.

How can you say that the concept of settlement is alien to Aluko and others when you yourself often stress the point that English football is inherently corrupt? Abi they never experienced this inherent corruption in the course of their footballing career to the extent that our culture of settlement is now alien to them?

soetanoreoluwa:


Sir, God bless you sir.. You just spoke my mind... Should we neglect ours and started running after those that will reject us in future.?.. We all know that youthful games cant be used to predict the national team games... Alot will fall by the way side...

We have make it without any Anglo players... With what Tammy said about his switch it will make it harder for any foreign player to get invite especially innit boys...

NFF won't say a word I bet you. You will rather see their actions... Even if Tammy want to do Zaha for England he should not be saying all that.. He like making jest of us...

He just block other players chances... Time will tell how NFF will react to all this brouhaha.

The creme de La creme of the SE have been birthed from the EPL and or currently play there. That's why we made it, without them the SE would not have qualified.

You have no idea what's at play here. The NFF is not sincere in its quest for Nigerian origin players. We should be the first to recognise them not England.

But the issue is that these boys are not desperate and they will not settle, no Egunje for NFF officials.

All this talk about national loyalty. I can assure if the U17 team were offered EU passports, a good club and money they would burn thier Nigerian passport on prime time TV.

So who is actually patriotic.

You have spoken correctly

komekn:


I would because Enyeama is simply much better no argument .

The way we discard players is baffling. Hope got injured playing for Nigeria and then we said bye bye. Is that how a players should be treated Who replaced him and where they actually better

Injury was an issue but it wasn't the only issue. Anichebe withdrew himself in discontent.

Sone Aluko was discarded because he didn't play ball and agree to settle. Finito.

All these players that were discarded at the core if the problem. They do not understand the politics of settlement in Nigerian football in the first instance. Secondly the concept is so alien to them it's abhorrent.

NFF also know that these boys will not settle they are not desperate. That's why they keep inviting them on the pages of newspapers and on the media and giving. msinformation. That some of us wilfully gobble up without drinking water sef.

We are Nigerians let's not pretend we know without an iota of doubt. What is normal, endemic and ingrained practice in our institutions.

You have spoken TRUTHFULLY

komekn:


The creme de La creme of the SE have been birthed from the EPL and or currently play there. That's why we made it, without them the SE would not have qualified.

You have no idea what's at play here. The NFF is not sincere in its quest for Nigerian origin players. We should be the first to recognise them not England.

But the issue is that these boys are not desperate and they will not settle, no Egunje for NFF officials.

All this talk about national loyalty. I can assure if the U17 team were offered EU passports, a good club and money they would burn thier Nigerian passport on prime time TV.

So who is actually patriotic.

oga corruption get different level oh.

Mujtahida:

How can you say that the concept of settlement is alien to Aluko and others when you yourself often stress the point that English football is inherently corrupt? Abi they never experienced this inherent corruption in the course of their footballing career to the extent that our culture of settlement is now alien to them?

Dem for play for NPFL na.. we for see how their careers for develop.
Let's field home-based alone.. ehen!

These people shouting patriotism, ask them what brand of shoes they wear.
Their weaveon where dem make am? Be patriotic and patronize homemade goods. Patriotism is action.

komekn:


That means that the entire national, team is imported.

Not one of them plays in Nigeria, so all this talk of being born or not in Nigeria is really academic.

(Photo) Breaking: Nigeria Int'l Signs Two-Year Deal Worth N14M To Remain At Enyimba
Published: November 09, 2017


(Photo) Breaking: Nigeria Int'l Signs Two-Year Deal Worth N14M To Remain At EnyimbaNigeria Professional Football League powerhouse Enyimba have finally secured the services of Joseph Osadiaye for another two years.

With the CAF Confederation Cup and the CHAN around the corner the two-cap Super Eagles winger will have the opportunity to showcase his talent to the world.

"The negotiation period was a tough one, because the player had several other offers we were considering, Al-Merrikh of Sudan, Rangers, Akwa United and two other European clubs who were eager to woo the player when they found out his previous contract with Enyimba expired,'' the player's intermediary Ogbemudia Endurance Iseri told allnigeriasoccer.com.

"I spoke with the Chairman of Enyimba International Football Club Chief Felix Anyasi Agwu and the football director Jude Anyadufu extensively before it was sealed.

''I see a better platform for the player to launch his career abroad with Enyimba FC, they are one of the professionally managed football club in the NPFL at the moment."

Joseph Osadiaye's new deal is worth N14,000,000.00 (Fourteen Million Naira) aside other bonuses and allowances, and begins from the 2017-18 season.

He was also part of the NPFL All-Star team to Spain in 2016.

Ifeanyi Emmanuel

--ANS

Joebie:
So their football industry should just go downhill just because they are having some challenges economically? Did you do statistics in school?

Correlation does not automatically mean that the change in one variable is the cause of the change in the values of the other variable. Causation, however, indicates that one event is the result of the occurrence of the other event.

You are missing the point.

If their football isn't going downhill just like their economy, then it is safe to say football is independent of the economy which was my point in the first place.

They are correlated still.
They've had a strong football development structure for donkey years. And their economy have been growing. You can't expect a sudden downward trend in their economy to just reflect in their football right away. It's not causative, it's correlated.

The way we handle football which we have focused on over the years, to the detriment of other sports, is a reflection of how we do things.
Don't expect that we would have done well with our economy with its relative complexity.

goldfish80:

If their football isn't going downhill just like their economy, then it is safe to say football is independent of the economy which was my point in the first place.

Mujtahida:

Okay I agree because ever since I began discussing with you our thriving entertainment industry has been sticking it's head up to me but the reality today is that we have a large pool of talented players we cannot afford to ignore notwithstanding the fact that some will ignore us and that does not stop us from developing our league if we really do want to do so. The point you should note is that our league was vibrant at a point but it has gone down now. We should pull it up.

Having a good national team is a derivative of having a good league but it should not the reason for developing the local league. Develop the league for its own sake. If having a good national team is the reason for having a good league then England would have scrapped the EPL. What I am saying is that the National team is just a small island in the vast landscape of the football league. How many times in a year do national teams play? So getting foreign born players to play for us has little to do with developing the league. If we want to develop it we would, if we don't want, we won't. It is not Leon Balogun that is preventing the setting up of good league structures.

Having a good setup at home will save you the stress of begging people who aren't interested in representing Nigeria.
In a space of one month, 2 players turned down the chance to play for Nigeria after we rolled out the red carpet.

Have we become a country with no dignity and desperate to the extent that you still suggest we persist and set up shop to cajole these individuals to come play for us.

If we cannot invest at home and produce good players to represent us then we might as well stop playing football. It doesn't make sense to continue with the sport.

Joebie:
They are correlated still.
They've had a strong football development structure for donkey years. And their economy have been growing. You can't expect a sudden downward trend in their economy to just reflect in their football right away. It's not causative, it's correlated.

The way we handle football which we have focused on over the years, to the detriment of other sports, is a reflection of how we do things.
Don't expect that we would have done well with our economy with its relative complexity.

Brazil had a thriving economy for years. They are part of the BRIC countries. Brazil didn't find themselves in this economic group that made up the BRIC countries by chance or without strategic planning which took years to harness by Lula da Silva.

If their economy could take a hit, then their football should have taken a hit too, since you're trying so hard to link the two.

You keep missing the point. Because you don't read my entire comment. You just pick a line and run away with it. I'm not learning anything new by engaging you. It's no use

goldfish80:

Brazil had a thriving economy for years. They are part of the BRIC countries. Brazil didn't find themselves in this economic group that made up the BRIC countries by chance or without strategic planning which took years to harness by Lula da Silva.

If their economy could take a hit, then their football should have taken a hit too, since you're trying so hard to link the two.

Joebie:
you are a joke.. can we have your suggestion? something fresh please

Fresh ideas? Why don't we relocate the Nff glasshouse to Europe. It will be easier to engage the diaspora born players if we operated the football house from Europe, after all the local talents are useless. I mean, our football destiny is tied to the economy and technical know how of the country.
How about that for an idea?

goldfish80:


Having a good setup at home will save you the stress of begging people who aren't interested in representing Nigeria.
In a space of one month, 2 players turned down the chance to play for Nigeria after we rolled out the red carpet.

Have we become a country with no dignity and desperation to the extent that you still suggest we persist and set up shop to cajole these individuals to come play for us.

If we cannot invest at home and produce good players to represent us then we might as well stop playing football. It doesn't make sense to continue with the sports.

When you use your home based players for Afcon qualifiers and the tournament proper is when I will see reason in the points you are making. Until then we will 'beg'(that's your word, not mine cos I don't see how telling players of Nigerian descent to play for Nigeria amounts to begging).
The use of the word 'begging' is a blackmail tool. It won't work with me. England 'begged' Iwobi even when he was at the Airport on the way to Nigeria. Didn't take away anything from the dignity of England as a nation. Nations routinely go out for the best outside their shores. Sometimes ago thesupernerd posted comments from an English blog and we all laughed at how jittery England were at the prospects of losing Tammy. You call it begging. I call it desire to have the best.
And to burst your bubble: no matter how good our home league gets we will always try to get foreign born players who are outstanding to be part of our team. We will always 'beg'. You just need to be realistic.

Sir, Our sense of Nigerian pride is too fragile, too sensitive because it has no depth. All I know is that we simply cannot - and no reasonable Nigerian will- ignore quality players of Nigerian descent just because we are afraid of our national pride being hurt. Whether they accept us or not, we still talk about them. Count how many we have in our team today and Dessers, Vinicus, Onyedinma, etc are still in the reckoning. This is the season-we will gain some, we will lose some. If need be let us stoop to conquer. Wait until another quality player comes to limelight and see if we would not pine for him.

Just two weeks ago, Anthony Joshua a British-Nigerian boxer fought Takam. Lai Muhammad, the Minister of Sports was there. Why? What business did they have being there. Didn't we shun Joshua when he 'begged'(truly the use of this word in this whole discussion is meaningless)to represent us? it's just because it's boxing and it's rules, if not I am sure we would have been like :AJ, how far na? Can you still represent us?
Success has many children jare.

Joebie:
You keep missing the point. Because you don't read my entire comment. You just pick a line and run away with it. I'm not learning anything new by engaging you. It's no use

I try to identify the anchor point of your argument and clear it up. Every other point fall into place like dominos.

komekn:



Of course you have watched some players more than the coach. He has limited time and only gets to see them in limited time as well. Rohr will rely on first hand experience and reports given by his coaching team.

Team invitations will be done particularly with regard to new player selection and recommendation will be done by NFF officials as well as in partnership with Rohr.

This is Nigeria there will be all kinds of jostling and influence peddling to push forward players that service the interests of different officials and thier associated agents. That will never change.

this is simply the truth. The coach watches a handful, mainly his first eleven, and relies on his scouts and technical team to make up the rest and that is where other people who may not have watched any player, start to influence the selection. We had a situation where Simon Moses isn't even among the best nigerian wingers in the belgian league(based on various sport rating sites) and somehow he gets the nod over them, are they telling me that Rohr saw something that a thousand and one other top analysts and vastly superior coaches did not see? Corruption and favouritism exists, we cannot argue that

Mujtahida:

Well, if you say so I can't argue against that. But the Coach's knowledge about his players, his team, their strengths, their weaknesses, might be increasing at a pace that would outstrip your knowledge unless you keep up your own pace too. I say this for one reason: it's his job and if he's not lazy the trajectory of his knowledge should show an upward climb. He is not at the level of knowledge he was last year though. He's learned some and hopefully he should continue learning.

Rohr isn't exactly the coach of the german national team and when u recall that we have had coaches such as Berti Vogts in our dugout you will agree that we do not always hire the best. You are saying Rohr's ideas have been evolving but I can only see him playing the 4-2-3-1 formation all of his career and when it gets found out he suffers. Sha I no wan go here till after the game against Algeria and Argentina

nelszx:
CAF Best XI in the WCQ series
Our very own VicMo and Leon Balogun made the cut......Impressive I must say



The list included Al Ahly’s left back Aly Maaloul after he shined with the Tunisian national team. The lineup has also seen the presence of Uganda goalkeeper Denis Onyango, Senegal’s Sadio Mane and Nigeria’s Victor Moses.

World Cup Qualifiers XI:

Denis Onyango (Uganda); Serge Aurier (Ivory Coast), Ahmed Hegazi (Egypt), Leon Balogun (Nigeria), Aly Maaloul (Tunisia); Victor Moses (Nigeria), Sadio Mane (Senegal), Youssef Msakni (Tunisia), Mbark Boussoufa (Morocco), Khalid Boutain (Morocco); Mohamed Salah (Egypt).

Mikel merits a place here more than anyone else

When AJ came to ask that he represent Nigeria at the Olympics and we refused, did our refusal make what he did to become 'begging'? No, we had a choice and we declined his request. He's moved on. Indeed we are the ones still hobnobbing with him. Thank God, he has a good heart and continues to reference us. But when we request foreign born players to play for us and they decline we call it 'begging'.

Mickael2:


Mikel merits a place here more than anyone else

Hmmmm. Hmmmmm. You have started ooo. You have become notorious to the extent that if you criticize we will wince. If you praise we will be suspicious.

Mujtahida:

When you use your home based players for Afcon qualifiers and the tournament proper is when I will see reason in the points you are making. Until then we will 'beg'(that's your word, not mine cos I don't see how telling players of Nigerian descent to play for Nigeria amounts to begging).
The use of the word' begging' is a blackmail tool. It won't work with me. England 'begged' Iwobi even when he was at the Airport. Didn't take away anything from the dignity of England as a nation. Nations routinely go out for the best outside their shores. Sometimes ago thesupernerd posted comments from an English blog and we all laughed at how jittery England were at the prospects of losing Tammy. You call it begging. I call it desire to have the best.

Sir, Our sense of Nigerian pride is too fragile, too sensitive because it has no depth. All I know is that we simply cannot - and no reasonable Nigerian will- ignore quality players of Nigerian descent just because we are afraid of our national pride being hurt. Whether they accept us or not, we still talk about them. Count how many we have in our team today and Dessers, Vinicus, Onyedinma, etc are still in the reckoning. This is the season-we will gain some, we will lose some. If need be let us stoop to conquer.

Just two weeks ago, Anthony Joshua a British boxer fought Takam. Lai Muhammad, the Minister of Sports was there. Why? What business did they have being there. Didn't we shun Joshua when he 'begged'(truly the use of this word in this whole discussion is meaningless)to represent us? it's just because it's boxing and it's rules, if not I am sure we would have been like :AJ, how far na? Can you still represent us?
Success has many children jare.

England signed Iwobi's clearance papers before he represented Nigeria. They could have rolled out the red carpet for him if they really wanted before signing his clearance, a process which took months.

The word begging is not rethoric or out of place in Tammy's case. You heard from the horses mouth that Nigeria rolled out the red carpet for him (he could have been offered an oil well, only him knew what he meant)

I don't actually have a problem with having a diaspora born to represent us, what I have a problem with is institutionalizing such an idea at the expense of local development.

You don't place the cart before the horse, my friend.

Mickael2:



Rohr isn't exactly the coach of the german national team and when u recall that we have had coaches such as Berti Vogts in our dugout you will agree that we do not always hire the best. You are saying Rohr's ideas have been evolving but I can only see him playing the 4-2-3-1 formation all of his career and when it gets found out he suffers. Sha I no wan go here till after the game against Algeria and Argentina

But Antonio Conte used the 3-4-3 formation from after the defeat to Arsenal last season through to the end. Did that make you say he's not evolving? But I didn't even talk about his ideas. I spoke about his knowledge of his players, the teams strengths and weaknesses. I was talking personel, not tactics.

Mickael2:


Mikel merits a place here more than anyone else

Sentiment aside who should be displaced in his stead?

Mickael2:

Mikel merits a place here more than anyone else

Very True

Well, but you are repeating the points i've already made. In the process, you just reiterate, and say nothing new.

Let me help you.
Just an analogy: Smoking and Drinking as bad habits

Does it follow that a smoker is always a drinker as well? No.
But consider this scenario. A man who is a smoker who happens to be a drinker as well, decides to stop smoking.
After several attempts, he finally overcame his tobacco addiction after 12 months.
My question: What are the chances that he will as well overcome alcoholism?

You see, these habits are correlated. How we handle affairs as a people. The systems we use, and our culture of doing things for that matter will determine many of our affairs.

READ ON
Let me take you on one of your examples -- Spain. How do you choose to measure the rise of their football? Let me restrict this to the club level, because we are talking league development.

Is it a coincidence that between 2012 and now Spain was represented 6 times out of a possible 8 as UEFA Champions league finalists?

3 SOURCES for you as regards SPAIN. When you are done, ask yourself if football and the economy are ENTIRELY independent of each other.

1. A 2012 report on LaLiga club challenges:
Gay, who has produced several studies on Spanish clubs' sorry finances, estimates their debt at 6 billion euros ($7.4 billion).

"The 20 teams in La Liga, the elite first division that includes powerhouses Barcelona and Real Madrid, owe more than half that amount. Gay believes at least 10 teams are at risk of going under. Several are already under bankruptcy protection.

The government says teams in the top two divisions owed 752 million euros ($921 million) in unpaid taxes alone last spring, on top of around 600 million euros ($735 million) in missed contributions to the social security system.

The authorities have long tolerated clubs' traditionally loose finances because of the prestige and popularity they bring to a country where passion for the game runs deep.

That is changing. With finances squeezed by the euro zone debt crisis, the government is slashing spending on hospitals, schools and public-sector jobs, and Spaniards are starting to ask whether football clubs should be able to continue to enjoy their free ride."
https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-07-11/spains-iconic-la-liga-soccer-teams-face-high-debt-and-unpaid-taxes

2. Next ,on Spain's economic reforms in 2012:

" What has been done?
Unlike some of its peers, Spain got stuck into labour market reforms in 2012. These now appear to be paying dividends.
Spain's unemployment rate has dropped like a stone as a result. However, it still remains high as the second highest in the euro area at 23.8pc in the first quarter.
Holger Sandte, of Nordea, said: "The reforms done in the economy begin to be visible in Spain, such as the tax reform that came into force in the beginning of the year."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11574536/How-Spain-became-the-Wests-superstar-economy.html

3. Next, the picture BELOW a snapshot of Spain's economy since 2012:
source: https://www.focus-economics.com/countries/spain


My friend, these two things are not entirely independent as you would like to think. Just as the La Liga can impact the Spanish economy. Economic reforms can also impact the La Liga. The impact may not be immediate, but on the long run a predictable trend can be observed. Still, I maintain they are correlated, although independent to some extent.

I want to learn from you, if I must continue.

goldfish80:

I try to identify the anchor point of your argument and clear it up. Every other point fall into place like dominos.