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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 10:09pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
NiyiOmoIyunade: Hello Sir, thanks for your observation. All you said has been duely noted . Nevertheless, thanks for the recent patronage and we hope doing more business as time goes on ... 1 Like |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 10:15pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
pranil: Congrats Sir , you are indeed a brave man ! You inspire a lot of viewers and prospective clients here.. It also amazes me the way you take time to detail your write up's as I personally know how "very busy" you can be at times.. My regards to the family .. I remain loyal Sir !! 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 12:37am On Nov 07, 2017 |
NiyiOmoIyunade: Thank you for the compliments - You echo my wife 's sentiments - she claims that my house needs a user manual. My next project is to simply the usage. first step is to allow MQQT control but no more projects this year too many weekends spent |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Nielsek(m): 7:02am On Nov 07, 2017 |
Please I'm in need of a complete solar set installation That can power My CCTV cameras 24hours, can anyone in d house help me with the watt rating of each of d equipment (devices) ...is there any expert or dealer in the house that I can contact through whatsapp? |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by zeestone99(m): 7:37am On Nov 07, 2017 |
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by totalgreen01: 7:43am On Nov 07, 2017 |
my people, pls i am looking for dead laptop batteries in large quantity can anyone help |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 9:13am On Nov 07, 2017 |
Nielsek: Good morning Sir , feel free to WhatsApp / call us : Smartcell global services 081-350-31951 1 Like |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 9:16am On Nov 07, 2017 |
totalgreen01: Hello Total green, computer village should be the best place to search .. I can basically do UPS or inverter batteries in quantity . Cheers 1 Like |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 10:00am On Nov 07, 2017 |
pranil: oh men, this is fantastically fabulous... the sky is your starting point and the sun is your limit. more grease to your elbow... more sun to your roof... more wind to your compound... more money to your bank account... well done sir |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 12:51pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Oga Pranil. I am a bit of a noob when it comes to Lithium batteries having never installed them yet commercially - please educate us more on why you chose the BYD Pro offering vs. other options. Did it come bundled with a BMS or you had to purchase BMS separately? Are you charging through the BMS or external charging source? How did you set the low voltage disconnect and charge voltage limits - I have heard of some people who use the standard charge controllers for charging Lithium batteries and set their target absorb voltage with an absorb time of 1 minute . Do you have extra safety measures/redundancies built in in case of BMS or other failure? Basically, please give the house the full purchase decision and install and configuration low down with reasons why you went with one approach vs. another so we can all learn. We appreciate your time. pranil: 2 Likes |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by JUO(m): 2:12pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 1:15am On Nov 08, 2017 |
NiyiOmoIyunade: My decision was based on mainly two factors ( reliability of both battery and BMS) and availability in Nigeria for off-grid use as Lithium are temp sensitive. I started the process way back in May before coming to the final conclusion that building your own battery was fraught with many issues such as canbus integration and component failure risk as well as the jungle of wires and constant babysitting required which is pyscially not possible by me. Pls. see attached excel where I have contacted each supplier for both commercial offers and technical details to ensure proper integration. Suppliers who refused to support Victron and axpert ( zinox/voltronic) inverter were dropped out . The BYD won the race mainly because - Availability off the shelf ( I wanted to finish before December beginning), Low per cycle cost ( comes lower than Trojan). It also helped that BYD is the largest manufacturer of LIthium batteries and Electric cars ( including JV with Mercedes EV's) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_Company and best of all one of the few batteries apart from PYLON which can be added in stacks of 2.5 KWH as your system grows without affecting warranties. BTW The warranties on Lithium are 10 years as general practice I also have an order a relatively new company called herewin which will come in January. They cannot support canbus but the price was only 3000 USD so I decided to take the risk and will try to use it with PRAG 5 KW ( yet to get hold of PRAG BTW ) to clarify the absorb times On the issue of the BYD the biggest advantage is that BMS of every 2.5 KWH unit ( called B- PLus 2.5 ) is integrated. But the BMS does not talk to inverter but their own box .( BMU- battery management unit) This BMU can be upgraded anytime for the firmware to support more inverters or models without changing anything in the battery which is a big plus point the battery and BMU connect over RJ 485 and located away from each other if required . The BMU is also cheap 69 USD compared to other brands like sonneh which cross 2000 USD The charging the B- BOX is through Victron inverter at 70 Amps ( inverter limit ) as well as my 2.5 KWp solar 48 V , 45 amp CC and 500 watt Grid-tied ( together max 136 amps) which is the exact limit of the charging normal 0.7 C max between 12 to 50 DEG C The BMU informs the charger /inverter when to switch off charger through CANBUS including the current limit for charge and discharge based on battery temp. It is actually fun to see the battery charging as it reaches 99 % at full 70 amps in then in next one minute the current drops to Zero As a added safety precaution additional Allowed to charge and Allowed to discharge contacts Hardwired to inverter which are NC so in case BMU fails the inverter stops charging( allowed to charge off) and also switches off ( allowed to discharge) The battery has also it's own safety contactors built in per 2.5 KWh with LOw/Over voltage and current limit . Th technical details are too many to elaborate as the forum format is not very user-friendly ( limits attachment per post) those who are interested can contact me for more details directly on interested models and use case scenarios/recommendations. 8 Likes |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by jazzman2(m): 10:05am On Nov 08, 2017 |
pranil: Nice setup. How do you regulate the charging of the lifepo4 unit from the solar CC and 500w grid-tie side of things? Same CANBUS? 1 Like |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 3:53pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
This is splendid! Many thanks for taking time to put this up. I will PM you for further discussions - I sense great potential and a multitude of applications for the "allowed to charge/discharge contacts" pranil: |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 6:34pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
jazzman2: The Victron has a PV inverter assistant you have to load which increases the frequency of steps from 50 to 51 HZ . The Micro PV inverter regulates it's power in response to change in frequency and completely disconnects above 51 HZ . In addition, the grid tie is connected to ACout to on the Victron which has its built-in 100 AMP ( AC) contractor. The contractor is designed to open through another setting /assistant at 55.8 V ensuring fall back protection. IN addition, normal connection and disconnection of the PV power ( only 500 watts ) are done through another power contactor controlled by the Victron through it's auxiliary contactor. which connects only when SOC at <90 % and disconnected at soc >97 % only when the inverter has no AC input ( in islanding mode though hardwiring from my Ziehl Islanding relay ) and the load is above 800 watt - *The Generator in the picture actually means PV inverter
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 6:36pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
jazzman2: Sorry, I missed the CC - the CC is through Canbus to CCGX/Venus GX and then by .Ve direct cable to CC. the CC stops charging in few seconds if it loses communication - It's a standard implementation for Victron Nothing special there |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by idsolar(m): 8:44pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
idsolar: Hello house. I still have these 2 charge controllers for sale. 1.Roysolar charge controller 12/24v 60amp - N35,000 2. Roysolar 12/24v 20amp - N5,000 Interested? Call/sms/whasapp 08033735359. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by jazzman2(m): 10:53pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
pranil: Thanks Pranil for your explicit explanation. Basically you charge to approx. 100% and all forms of charging will cease. You will then be running off your battery pack until a pre-determined SOC before the charger engages again. There is no floating arrangement on your CC, hence your PV cannot supply load power when battery is fully charged. Which micro-inverter are u utilizing? I only know of the magnum MicroGT 500 that can throttle its power with frequency shift control. The rest of the micro-inverters in the market will NOT gradually reduce their output power with frequency shifting, rather they get knocked offline completely when a pre-determined frequency is reached. Unfortunately the magnum MicroGt 500 is yet to made available for european 230Vac 50Hz systems. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by HilcomTech(m): 11:07pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
Nielsek: Hi Nielsek, |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by makavele: 2:31am On Nov 09, 2017 |
jazzman2:
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 5:32am On Nov 09, 2017 |
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by jazzman2(m): 7:13am On Nov 09, 2017 |
[quote author=makoavele post=62203512][/quote] Hi Makoavele, don't be misled by the 240Vac in the specs: it is the voltage between the split phases North American 2 hot legs, L1 and L2. L1 or L2 to Neutral is 120Vac, 60Hz, while L1 to L2 is 180deg out of phase to give u 240Vac peak to peak. Don't confuse it with European single phase L-N of 230Vac, 50 Hz. 1 Like |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NoMoreTrolling: 10:52am On Nov 09, 2017 |
Used Sukam 1.5kva pure sine wave inverter for sale 25k. Call 08171942851. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 1:08pm On Nov 09, 2017 |
Ep Solar 60a mppt working @ its peak on a 24v system .. 4 years counting 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 2:57pm On Nov 09, 2017 |
[quote author=makavele post=62203512][/quote] USing a Clone of APsystems Micro Inverter 500 Watt - The company EVpower sells a customized version under their own brand name. They agreed to test the new unit with me as it has modified firmware - Hence the reason for so many protections and interlocks as the inverter is not commercially implemented and neither supported by Victron https://usa.apsystems.com/portfolio-item/apsystems-yc500i-with-energymax/ https://www.ev-power.eu/GridFree-Inverters/YC500-Trunk-Solar-Micro-Inverter-Grid-tied-DC-AC-500W-230V-CE.html?listtype=search&searchparam=GF-YC500T The only inverter supported by Victron is fronius which allows power control. But the smallest unit is 3 KW with 600 K NGN price tag and attendent requirements of 10 panels in series to have good effcienecy |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by makavele: 3:18pm On Nov 09, 2017 |
jazzman2: ok; tot as much ! |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 3:23pm On Nov 09, 2017 |
jazzman2: Exactly that is intended operation. The grid is not available( intentional islanding mode) to sink the variation in power and you do not want battery voltage to spike with a large load is switched off or something trips For reasons debated earlier on the forum in Nigeria, theoretically, you cannot run grid tied AC inverters till all regulations are in place. See this interesting video - For the layman this video explains it better ( start at 40 Sec to get past marketing stuff) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq1ShAgw5no?t=40s Although I have 5 contractors in series - One input Quattro, 2 output quattro, 3 - Power contactor for grid-tied, 4 , Ziehl islanding relay, 5 ( Auto changer of gen and NEPA( German standards require 1 and UK 2) to avoid all possiblities of malfunction E.g. for Nigeria what should be the ROcof ( df/dt) nobody knows. There is no standard and no practical knowledge. I am eagerly waiting when the net metering takes off and I can actually put a large PV inverter coupled with my Victron. Till that time we are at the mercy of clever gimmicks to get around the technical problem the politicians should solve. BTW. the Ziehl islanding relay setting options are attached - if you look at the settings you will realize the importance of having values from regulators
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by jazzman2(m): 3:52pm On Nov 09, 2017 |
pranil: Cool stuff Pranil. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NoMoreTrolling: 9:08am On Nov 10, 2017 |
Sukam 24volt 1.5kva inverter used for sale, 25k. Call 08171942851 |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DMerciful(m): 8:20pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
You want to make your own DIY lithium battery pack as shown on u-tube totalgreen01: 1 Like |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 10:07pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
DMerciful: Can dead batteries work? I have watched a few as well... |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by idsolar(m): 12:28pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
User/installer feedback Why is power starlight vil series inverter fan so loud? Is it lk this for all d capacities? |
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