ibadanfinest:


Bros it is 5 credit in one sitting. There is no university in Nigeria whose admission requirement is 6 credit in one sitting.

Unilag post utme cut off is 40. Ife and Ibadan will never accept 49.9999 for Yoruba education.

lastly where is the facility to train 8000 fresher's. the available hostel capacity for all the students nearing 40000 does not exceed 6000.

The school is admitting way above capacity. They should learn from UI whose admission is largely based on merit

the same unilag medicine cutoff mark was far higher than ui medicine cutoff...unilag engineering cutoff was also higher than ui, so what's ur point.

greenek:


are you a student of unilag or an alumnus?, this thought pattern is very low. "many of the students of UNILAG came either to pass time, maintain tradition or more rampantly, to have fun"..whats the basis of your statistics.."MANY" is a very strong word..

if you are a student or an alumnus, please speak for yourself, that you went to unilag "to pass time, maintain tradition or more rampantly, to have fun"..and if you aint a student or an alumnus, please keep quiet and stop talking ignorantly.

A thought pattern is very low without pellucid premises to show how low it is.
Hmm, how smart!

Asking what the basis for the statistics is goes to show how minute and meagre your sense of observation is.
Are the number of students expelled for failing to catch up with their academic requirements not enough pointers?
What about the intermittent massive failures experienced generally year in and out?
What about the number of students that graduate with average results and less year in and out?


Are the students in these categories not " MANY?

Even senior lecturers and senior school staffs will tell you students are generally unserious.

What's the cause of such accusations if "MANY" came for academic proposes.

Your phobia for "MANY" seems to owe to your lack of thorough education in semantics. Consult a dictionary. MANY may then seize to be "very strong" to hamper your sense of comprehension.

Many students of UNILAG came either to pass time or to have fun. Any learned mind wouldn't get troubles comprehending that.

TheCabal:


This is another stupid comment.

The school said it does not give a damn about your O level. The condition is simple if you can score above 39.9% you will be considered for admission. You can bring 7 A's and 350 Jamb if you score 35, your out.

your comment is the one that is stupid..how will you get 7A's in waec and 350 in jamb and not get up to 40% in ur postutme.. I av course mates that had parallel A's in waec and mind blowing jamb scores that aren't on firstclass..they are some others that have no A and low jamb scores that are on firstclass.. I think the credibility of waec and jamb should be checked

writerights:


Well, now that you know all these, can recommend the schools where these things are not found among their students? Don't also forget to tell us how long you spend there observing their students too.


We call this fallacy "appeal to authority of the many " as well as "appeal to authority of unreal expert".

Every man to his opinion though

Funny enough, your idea of fallacy is even unlearned. There is no fallacy such as " appeal to authority of the many" or "... unreal expert". Appeal to authority ( argumentum ad verecundiam) is what we have.

If you are a senior student or a graduate of UNILAG, you must have observed that many are there for other things but academic excellence. Its a glaring fact.

Without bias, any observant student who has passed through the institution in recent times can attest to this.

damosky12:


A thought pattern is very low without pellucid premises to show how low it is.
Hmm, how smart!

Asking what the basis for the statistics is goes to show how minute and meagre your sense of observation is.
Are the number of students expelled for failing to catch up with their academic requirements not enough pointers?
What about the intermittent massive failures experienced generally year in and out?
What about the number of students that graduate with average results and less year in and out?


Are the students in these categories not " MANY?

Even senior lecturers and senior school staffs will tell you students are generally unserious.

What's the cause of such accusations if "MANY" came for academic proposes.

Your phobia for "MANY" seems to owe to your lack of thorough education in semantics. Consult a dictionary. MANY may then seize to be "very strong" to hamper your sense of comprehension.

Many students of UNILAG came either to pass time or to have fun. Any learned mind wouldn't get troubles comprehending that.

I'm surprise at the level of ironic and rather inconsistent data you're messing the cyberspace with.

The University over many years now has consistently produced the highest number of first class graduates amongst Nigerian universities. Recently, one of her students broke a stone age African record by graduating with a perfect cgpa of 5. Just at the last convocation, the school produced two graduates with a perfect point of 5, one of whose programme duration lasted for 5 years.

All across the world, students are advised to withdraw and NOT expelled over poor academic performance. I really can't remember the university releasing any statistics of expelled students at any time. If they did, I really don't understand why that should be a big deal because it's obtainable everywhere across Nigerian schools.

Not too long ago, university of Ibadan, which you may claim houses serious minded students, was to send off about 20% of their newly admitted students for poor performance, does that depict unseriousness on that campus?

Your arguement is invalid and not sound as well. I honestly don't think you're sound either, but I'd give you the benefit of a doubt.

Since when I was a boy, my teachers and parents have sang iteratively to my hearing how students of these days aren't as serious as then, is that a justification to single out unilag for that offence?

My dear, you have no point to justify a reckless statement you made earlier but since it's a faceless forum, you can keep your regrets to yourself.

damosky12:



Funny enough, your idea of fallacy is even unlearned. There is no fallacy such as " appeal to authority of the many" or "... unreal expert". Appeal to authority ( argumentum ad verecundiam) is what we have.

If you are a senior student or a graduate of UNILAG, you must have observed that many are there for other things but academic excellence. Its a glaring fact.

Without bias, any observant student who has passed through the institution in recent times can attest to this.

You may need to take a break off Google and make use of the university library to aquire some real knowledge on fallacy. I did and that's why I know those. By the way, another fallacy you committed in your first paragraph is hasty generalisation.

I wouldn't wait more time on this subject, I wish you well with the way you see things.

writerights:


You may need to take a break off Google and make use of the university library to aquire some real knowledge on fallacy. I did and that's why I know those. By the way, another fallacy you committed in your first paragraph is hasty generalisation.

I wouldn't wait more time on this subject, I wish you well with the way you see things.

You are still wrong.
Hasty generalization doesn't apply when the argument in question doesn't deal with ALL but MANY. The many is not a generalization, its specific.

Alright. You could help prescribe any book that presents "appeal to authority of the many" as an official kind of fallacy. I'd be grateful.

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NwaAmaikpe:



Just ideal.
Take out the tares and admit the wheats.

87% of applicants to Unilag do not have academics as their main motivation.
I'm just being modest.
Unilag students are the least academically focussed in all of Nigeria.

Unilag is a cliché, a thing of class and an indication of social status rather than a citadel of academics.
To them; being a student of Unilag takes them three step higher in the rungs of their warped social ladder.

How does one explain a school whose female students are actresses in KingTBlacHoc's videos and it's male students are Ycee and Lil Kesh?

Yeah thank you but we're not complaining. Talking about academics pls go check for most academic records in Nigeria the school that currently holds most of them. From first graduating student with a perfect CGPA, first female graduating students with perfect CGPAs , performance of our law students in the Nigerian law school to even the highest number of first class graduates in a single yearto mention just a few. Pls get your facts right. Unilag is a school where social life and academics are balanced so pls stop the hate. You mentioned Ycee and Lil kesh we're very proud of them thank you. Did you forget Richard Mofe Damijo, Genevieve Nnaji, Prof Osinbanjo, Rilwan Akiolu oba of Lagos, Wale Adenuga, Funke Akindele the list is just endless.

writerights:


I'm surprise at the level of ironic and rather inconsistent data you're messing the cyberspace with.

The University over many years now has consistently produced the highest number of first class graduates amongst Nigerian universities. Recently, one of her students broke a stone age African record by graduating with a perfect cgpa of 5. Just at the last convocation, the school produced two graduates with a perfect point of 5, one of whose programme duration lasted for 5 years.

How faulty would it be If we are to judge how much the students of a university are serious with their academics by the number of first class they churn out. It will be silly. Why not look at the over 3,500 of those who graduate with 2:2 and below. The logic is simple. The ratio shows who the "MANY" are.
If we are to tow your paradigm, UNILAG will only be a second fiddle to private universities in terms of first class products.

All across the world, students are advised to withdraw and NOT expelled over poor academic performance. I really can't remember the university releasing any statistics of expelled students at any time. If they did, I really don't understand why that should be a big deal because it's obtainable everywhere across Nigerian schools.

Oh! So "advised to withdraw" does not imply expel? Can a student choose to take that advice or not? Logical comprehension should be prevalent here, not jargons. Its obtainable in every school is NOT the question. Forget others, is it rampant in UNILAG? If so, it shows how unserious MANY students in UNILAG are. Isn't it?

Not too long ago, university of Ibadan, which you may claim houses serious minded students, was to send off about 20% of their newly admitted students for poor performance, does that depict unseriousness on that campus?

If you were learned enough, you wouldn't imply what I would say before I do. I never mentioned UI. The crux of the discuss is UNILAG. How that MANY in the school aren't there for academics. Simple.

Your arguement is invalid and not in anyway sound. I honestly don't think you're sound either, but I'd give you the benefit of a doubt.

Since when I was a boy, my teachers and parents have sang iteratively to my hearing how students of these days aren't as serious as then, is that a justification to single out unilag for that offence?

Thanks for the compliments. Really, I don't expect to always appear sound before folks who think like you.

See, learn to think direct. Nobody is here to "single out UNILAG". It started with an argument about how that MANY of UNILAG students are there without or for other aims outside academic excellence. Its a simple argument you contested without being able to show how false you think it is. How unlearned of you.

My dear, you have no point to justify a reckless statement you made earlier but since it's a faceless forum, you can keep your regrets to yourself.

It will do you good to know what " reckless" means.

It will also help you to at least, appear smart to show how the "recklessl statement" is untrue or in your words, "reckless".

God help you.

damosky12:


How faulty would it be If we are to judge how much the students of a university are serious with their academics by the number of first class they churn out. It will be silly. Why not look at the over 3,500 of those who graduate with 2:2 and below. The logic is simple. The ratio shows who the "MANY" are.
If we are to tow your paradigm, UNILAG will only be a second fiddle to private universities in terms of first class products.[color=#006600][/color]

Unilag produces the highest number of first class graduates every year even more than all the private schools in Nigeria pls check your facts. Just this year 231 students graduated with first class with many others with 2.1. And pls can you tell us where you got the "over 3500" from? It seems the school you graduated from went through you and not the other way round.

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Mosminic:

Unilag produces the highest number of first class graduates every year even more than all the private schools in Nigeria pls check your facts. Just this year 231 students graduated with first class with many others with 2.1. And pls can you tell us where you got the "over 3500" from? It seems the school you graduated from went through you and not the other way round.

Funny how you narrowed down a whole argument to the first paragraph. Goes to show how critically studious you are. Is this how you went through or going through school?

All you now see is the facts of those who produce most first class and not how silly you are to have incipiently countered a self-evident assertion.


To help you, 6900 graduated from UNILAG this year. Only 231 of them are first class,
1705 graduated with 2:1. Now, if you have the capacity to comprehend, you should be able to see where the "over 3500" (over 4500 actually) that graduated with 2:2 and below came from.

I guess the over 3500 with 2:2, third class and the rest also passed through school with the sole aim of academic excellence or maybe they aren't MANY.... since "MANY is a strong word" in your vocabulary.

You are obviously a rookie.

damosky12:


A thought pattern is very low without pellucid premises to show how low it is.
Hmm, how smart!

Asking what the basis for the statistics is goes to show how minute and meagre your sense of observation is.
Are the number of students expelled for failing to catch up with their academic requirements not enough pointers?
What about the intermittent massive failures experienced generally year in and out?
What about the number of students that graduate with average results and less year in and out?


Are the students in these categories not " MANY?

Even senior lecturers and senior school staffs will tell you students are generally unserious.

What's the cause of such accusations if "MANY" came for academic proposes.

Your phobia for "MANY" seems to owe to your lack of thorough education in semantics. Consult a dictionary. MANY may then seize to be "very strong" to hamper your sense of comprehension.

Many students of UNILAG came either to pass time or to have fun. Any learned mind wouldn't get troubles comprehending that.

you are very funny and lack communication skill.

I wonder who you are trying to impress with unnecessary vocabularies..

"MANY" was a wrong word to use.

the facts you claim to tender, whats the source? you definitely have bad friends who unfortunately are or were unilag students. i believe that those friends were the source for your facts

writerights:


I'm surprise at the level of ironic and rather inconsistent data you're messing the cyberspace with.

The University over many years now has consistently produced the highest number of first class graduates amongst Nigerian universities. Recently, one of her students broke a stone age African record by graduating with a perfect cgpa of 5. Just at the last convocation, the school produced two graduates with a perfect point of 5, one of whose programme duration lasted for 5 years.

All across the world, students are advised to withdraw and NOT expelled over poor academic performance. I really can't remember the university releasing any statistics of expelled students at any time. If they did, I really don't understand why that should be a big deal because it's obtainable everywhere across Nigerian schools.

Not too long ago, university of Ibadan, which you may claim houses serious minded students, was to send off about 20% of their newly admitted students for poor performance, does that depict unseriousness on that campus?

Your arguement is invalid and not sound as well. I honestly don't think you're sound either, but I'd give you the benefit of a doubt.

Since when I was a boy, my teachers and parents have sang iteratively to my hearing how students of these days aren't as serious as then, is that a justification to single out unilag for that offence?

My dear, you have no point to justify a reckless statement you made earlier but since it's a faceless forum, you can keep your regrets to yourself.

thanks bro, there is no need to argue with him, he's probably one of those that unilag denied admission..

damosky12:



Funny how you narrowed down a whole argument to the first paragraph. Goes to show how critically studious you are. Is this how you went through or going through school?

All you now see is the facts of those who produce most first class and not how silly you are to have incipiently countered a self-evident assertion.


To help you, 6900 graduated from UNILAG this year. Only 231 of them are first class,
1705 graduated with 2:1. Now, if you have the capacity to comprehend, you should be able to see where the "over 3500" (over 4500 actually) that graduated with 2:2 and below came from.

I guess the over 3500 with 2:2, third class and the rest also passed through school with the sole aim of academic excellence or maybe they aren't MANY.... since "MANY is a strong word" in your vocabulary.

You are obviously a rookie.

The passion with which you try to use to condemn unilag is so alarming. Unilag compared to other universities in terms of Academics is second to none based on its products and its achievements which are very glaring even to the dumbest person on earth but I think you're way below the dumbest person in the world. Compare that statistics with that of UI, Futo, Uniben , OAU and the rest and you'll realize that your brain is actually playing a trick on you.

You know what @damosky forget this. I take my words back cos I have tried to stay away from online arguments but when it comes to my school nah I can't allow someone who claims to know the school whereas he/she doesn't, type trash about Unilag. So pls forgive and forget what I said. It was out of annoyance. Though Unilag still remains the university of first choice and the Nations pride

damosky12:


How faulty would it be If we are to judge how much the students of a university are serious with their academics by the number of first class they churn out. It will be silly. Why not look at the over 3,500 of those who graduate with 2:2 and below. The logic is simple. The ratio shows who the "MANY" are.
If we are to tow your paradigm, UNILAG will only be a second fiddle to private universities in terms of first class products.

I hope this shuts you up for life but if it doesn't,I'd simply let you walk away with your ignorance.

By your own wisdom, it is wise to appraise how serious the students of a school are by the number of second class lower division being produced but not by the first class? How wise.

You have vehemently stuck to that wonky line of argument but I asked you to name schools which you can comfortably vouch for their students as being more studious and serious than those in Unilag, alas, all you could do is shy away.

I'd just take the pain to set the record straight and inform you of some simple knowledge you should arm yourself with about recent convocation across campuses in Nigeria before spewing incoherent information.

For the record, unilorin recently produced 7, 174 graduates as announced at the last convocation. Just somehow, 5, 153 of them finish with lower and below. If you do your maths correctly, a bit above 71% had poor result according to your perception of those class of grade. I didn't fabricate that, facts don't just lie.

http://punchng.com/89-students-bag-first-class-at-unilorin-class-at-unilorin/

In 2016, UI in a similar fashion convoked 5,598 graduands but sadly, 3,760 of them bagged lower credit and below, it means 67% didn't perform too well too. I didn't fabricate that either.

http://www.currentschoolnews.com/school-news/117-bag-first-class-as-university-of-ibadan-graduates-5598-students/


Ahmadu Bello University also convoked 13,149 graduates in 2016 but surprisingly, 10,974 of them making 83% bagged lower credit and below.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/nwest/197783-ahmadu-bello-university-produces-89-first-class-305-ph-d-holders.html

Unilag just like other affected institutions is not left out in the show of shame. In January 2017, unilag convoked 6,900 graduating students, 4, 447 had lower and below which amounts to 64%.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/220867-unilag-award-first-class-degrees-231-graduates.html

Isn't it surprising that the same unilag that happen to house the highest number of unserious students on the planet according to you convoked the least percent of graduates with "poor grades"? How ironic. It has also produced the highest number of first class graduates in recent time. Since that's your point of argument, if this doesn't convince you enough, then I don't understand how you learn.

damosky12:


Oh! So "advised to withdraw" does not imply expel? Can a student choose to take that advice or not? Logical comprehension should be prevalent here, not jargons. Its obtainable in every school is NOT the question. Forget others, is it rampant in UNILAG? If so, it shows how unserious MANY students in UNILAG are. Isn't it?

If that's the way to say 'thank you' for learning the right phrase to have used in that context, I'd say you're welcome.

Ignorantly, you want to convience me on how rampant it is in unilag but you haven't given any prove of when last some students were withdrawn for low academic performance. The management has even been gracious to provide people with academic challenges the opportunity to transfer.

UI, an institution with stringent entry requirements as unilag somehow admitted 580 students into the system who didn't have it go well at the end of their first year. Does it mean UI and her students condone unseriousness on campus? In case your wonky way of thinking can't still proffer you with the correct answer, please know that the answer is NO. It only means all school have their varying number of unserious students, none being excluded.

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2017/10/20/580-first-year-ui-students-face-withdrawal-from-school-vc/

I'm already fully aware that you lack proper understanding on the subject you choose to argue about but we can try to educate you. You dare say "rampant in UNILAG" when you may never have set a foot on the soil of any other institution. This kind of reasoning is dangerous, unfortunately, not to you alone but to many ignorant friends who may not be opportune to verify every gibberish that flows from your head.

damosky12:


If you were learned enough, you wouldn't imply what I would say before I do. I never mentioned UI. The crux of the discuss is UNILAG. How that MANY in the school aren't there for academics. Simple.

Don't be confuse dear, the subject of discuss can't go down without making comparison. You can't say law is the toughest faculty and expect me to argue why it's not without making necessary comparison with other faculties and why they may be better. This is common sense.

damosky12:


Thanks for the compliments. Really, I don't expect to always appear sound before folks who think like you.

You welcome. Should it be that you get so lucky in life to meet those who would change your orientation to pally with mine, you may come around and we can be good friends.

damosky12:


See, learn to think direct. Nobody is here to "single out UNILAG". It started with an argument about how that MANY of UNILAG students are there without or for other aims outside academic excellence. Its a simple argument you contested without being able to show how false you think it is. How unlearned of you.

Quick to call me unlearned but the trait of an uneducated fellow is dangling round your neck. I wish you luck as you go about with you myopic perception of seeing things.

damosky12:


It will do you good to know what " reckless" means.

It will also help you to at least, appear smart to show how the "recklessl statement" is untrue or in your words, "reckless".

God help you.

Lol. . . This guy aways bursting my brain. The empty barrel wouldn't cease to amaze me. As empty as it is, it's rather makes the loudest noise than quietly wait till it gets filled, perhaps with information.

One advise, in your quest to portray yourself as reasonable and logical to the world, take you time to be sure the world wouldn't know your not smart enough to have a smart phone. You likely to pollute us all with ignorance.

writerights:


I hope this shuts you up for life but if it doesn't,I'd simply let you walk away with your ignorance.

By your own wisdom, it is wise to appraise how serious the students of a school are by the number of second class lower division being produced but not by the first class? How wise.

You have vehemently stuck to that wonky line of argument but I asked you to name schools which you can comfortably vouch for their students as being more studious and serious than those in Unilag, alas, all you could do is shy away.

I'd just take the pain to set the record straight and inform you of some simple knowledge you should arm yourself with about recent convocation across campuses in Nigeria before spewing incoherent information.

For the record, unilorin recently produced 7, 174 graduates as announced at the last convocation. Just somehow, 5, 153 of them finish with lower and below. If you do your maths correctly, a bit above 71% had poor result according to your perception of those class of grade. I didn't fabricate that, facts don't just lie.

http://punchng.com/89-students-bag-first-class-at-unilorin-class-at-unilorin/

In 2016, UI in a similar fashion convoked 5,598 graduands but sadly, 3,760 of them bagged lower credit and below, it means 67% didn't perform too well too. I didn't fabricate that either.

http://www.currentschoolnews.com/school-news/117-bag-first-class-as-university-of-ibadan-graduates-5598-students/


Ahmadu Bello University also convoked 13,149 graduates in 2016 but surprisingly, 10,974 of them making 83% bagged lower credit and below.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/nwest/197783-ahmadu-bello-university-produces-89-first-class-305-ph-d-holders.html

Unilag just like other affected institutions is not left out in the show of shame. In January 2017, unilag convoked 6,900 graduating students, 4, 447 had lower and below which amounts to 64%.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/220867-unilag-award-first-class-degrees-231-graduates.html

Isn't it surprising that the same unilag that happen to house the highest number of unserious students on the planet according to you convoked the least percent of graduates with "poor grades"? How ironic. It has also produced the highest number of first class graduates in recent time. Since that's your point of argument, if this doesn't convince you enough, then I don't understand how you learn.





If that's the way to say 'thank you' for learning the right phrase to have used in that context, I'd say you're welcome.

It's rampant in unilag but you haven't given me a prove of when last some students were withdrawn for low academic performance. The management has even been gracious to provide people with academic challenges the opportunity to transfer.

UI, an institution with stringent entry requirements as unilag somehow admitted 580 students into the system who didn't have it go well at the end of their first year. Does it mean UI and her students condone unseriousness on campus? In case your wonky way of thinking can't still proffer you with the correct answer, please know that the answer is NO. It only means all school have their varying number of unserious students, none being excluded.

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2017/10/20/580-first-year-ui-students-face-withdrawal-from-school-vc/

I'm already fully aware that you lack proper understanding on the subject you choose to argue about but we can try to educate you. You dare say "rampant in UNILAG" when you may never have set a foot on the soil of any other institution. This kind of reasoning is dangerous, unfortunately, not to you alone but to many ignorant friends who may not be opportune to verify every gibberish that flows from your head.



Don't be confuse dear, the subject of discuss can't go down without making comparison. You can't say law is the toughest faculty and expect me to argue why it's not without making necessary comparison with other faculties and why they may be better. This is common sense.




You welcome. Should it be that you get so lucky in life to meet those who would change your orientation to pally with mine, you may come around and we can be good friends.




Quick to call me unlearned but the trait of an uneducated fellow is dangling round your neck. I wish you luck as you go about with you myopic perception of seeing things.





Lol. . . This guy aways bursting my brain. Empty barrel wouldn't cease to amaze me, as empty as it is, it's rather unfortunate that it makes the loudest noise.

One advise, in your quest to portray yourself as reasonable and logical to the world, take you time to be sure the world wouldn't know your not smart enough to have a smart phone. You likely to pollute us all with ignorance.

thanks once again bro.. if @damosky still comments unjustly, it woulds speak a lot of his character and personality.

unilag and its students are no saints, same goes to other schools. We are not saying Unilag is all perfect, but its not crooked as you paint it. We that went to unilag or are still going to unilag would not just seat back and watch you malaise the school unfairly in the process warp the understanding of many that gets informed in nairaland.

NwaAmaikpe:



Just ideal.
Take out the tares and admit the wheats.

87% of applicants to Unilag do not have academics as their main motivation.
I'm just being modest.
Unilag students are the least academically focussed in all of Nigeria.

Unilag is a cliché, a thing of class and an indication of social status rather than a citadel of academics.
To them; being a student of Unilag takes them three step higher in the rungs of their warped social ladder.

How does one explain a school whose female students are actresses in KingTBlacHoc's videos and it's male students are Ycee and Lil Kesh?

That is how an ideal university should be. The environment should enable you to identify your potential and gives you the field to value it. Even though it's a known fact that socially it remains the first, Even Academically unilag is on top of thoe game. there's no field of professional practice today in Nigeria and Africa that you won't find the school alumni, upon the criticism Unilag has 2 alumni as ministers, 5 sitting governors and of course the V. Presidents. Go to KPMG, UNILEVER, BANKS and see wonders the school alumni are performing. The school is a niche in Nigeria. GREATEST AKOKITE!!!!

ovis374:


the same unilag medicine cutoff mark was far higher than ui medicine cutoff...unilag engineering cutoff was also higher than ui, so what's ur point.

Am yet to confirm your assertion which may or not be true. but that's far from the point. I said largely based on merit and minimum cut off being 50%.

Moreso Unilag post utme isn't a good test of knowledge its mostly based on luck. maths eng and general paper

lastly am sure you are aware that someone with zero made the merit list. The merit list released last week has been retracted.

writerights:


Before I was admitted via direct entry into the faculty of engineering with my ND result, I had the following:

1. Distinction from a recognised polytechnic
2. Credit pass in F - maths
3. O/Level at one sitting

My friends who finished with upper all rushed to OAU and were all admitted. They never did F - maths and some may not have cleared their O/level at a sitting. When throwing banter at one another, I still tell them they wouldn't have made it to unilag with the high standard that has been laid.

Admission requirement differs. the fact that Ife does not make f maths compulsory does not mean most its a weaker admission process. congrat on your admission into Unilag. you would have met better competition at Ife/ibadan

ibadanfinest:


Admission requirement differs. the fact that Ife does not make f maths compulsory does not mean most its a weaker admission process. congrat on your admission into Unilag. you would have met better competition at Ife/ibadan

I'm not disputing that buh better competition in what sense sir?

greenek:


cut-off is 40% for what course?

and you cant come here to tell us that UI's admission is totally based on merit, everybody knows that this is not true..

If you meet the merit, you would get admitted in unilag, but there are also conditions, ur jamb combination must be correct, and also meet the waec requirements...some people would fail in one of the requirements but pass the cut-off point and then they would expect to be admitted..

Unilag has the facility to train the number of students it chooses to admit, and the hostel capacity exceeds 6000, and thats just for the already built hostels, more than 4 new hostels are under construction..

Unilag might not be totally transparent in its admission processing, UI or OAU is no way better in this aspect also, but whats merited would be given

then the comment you responded to, Unilag doesnt accept two sittings for even igbo education, UI only does one sitting for medicine or you can prove me wrong

lastly see the picture i attached for education faculty that has the lowest cut-off mark

4 hostel under construction ke el kanemi is re modelled and sodeinde has been renovated.
I don't know where you see your own. As for waec. we all know UI does not give a hoot about waec. infact they were forced to consider jamb this year. We all know how many people get their waec result.

Unilag does not have accommodation provision for 6000 students am telling you. even if 10 hostels are under construction. Do students live in uncompleted building?

Lastly I never said ui is totally I said largely. The fact that they accept 2 sitting in waec does not affect the 'merit'

Businessideas:

You may be right especially if you are quoting from Jamb brochure but if you had attended UNILAG,especially, Faculty of Engineering, you will understand that your five credits without Further Maths will not get you admitted sir.
The other schools like UI and Ife you mentioned, have for decades, had lower admission criteria like accepting two sittings of O'LEVEL and even lower cutoff marks than UNILAG and I wondered how you think 8,000 is still lower than its carrying capacity when you don't have your fact and the school management that has the fact had stated in actual fact the school has even reduced it's admission ratio in favor of Post Graduate. For ages,UNILAG has always maintained the highest criteria for admission so the outgoing university is just continuing with the tradition of the school.
And for the 40% , that is standard university lowest pass score.In admission process,it is not the only requirement but it just gets you to be considered for merit list so a candidate targeting 40% or who scored 40% may not eventually be admitted.That is what the VC is saying in coded words sir

Am a final year student of Unilag. I give people advise on how to get into Unilag. in engineering faculty. maths eng and f maths are bolded plus two other courses prefeteably phy and chem.

You are all hammering on two sitting. UI does not really value waec. The school knows how people get their result. That's why it has no weight in computation of aggregate. The more reason why post utme is based on your jamb combo to really test your knowledge.

writerights:

I'm not disputing that buh better competition in what sense sir?

Am sure something will take you to Ife and Ibadan. you will understand better

Businessideas:

Does UI do exams or evaluation screening?

No, they just take random students on the street

UNILAG is the only school that has for years insisted on One sitting while other schools like UI accommodate multiple sittings and combination of O'LEVEL results

They also take students with '0' in PUTME . UI does not value O'level, Their PUTME is what matters

It's so funny that you still think 40% score is enough to guarantee you admission in

40-49 are the cutoffs of some departments.

it had been the university of first choice.F or decades, candidates in Nigeria prefer to attend UNILAG than any other schools including UI sir

Is this a joke? Ever heard of Unilorin?

The carrying capacity of university is not fixed sir.As we speak right now,Faculty of Pharmacy of UI has lost its accreditation

They admitted 2,500 last year, when they still had pharmacy. You know nothing about UI!

ovis374:


the same unilag medicine cutoff mark was far higher than ui medicine cutoff...unilag engineering cutoff was also higher than ui, so what's ur point.

Did they write the same exams? did they calculate their students aggregates in the same way? This is a very stupid statement. No offence bro.

ibadanfinest:


Am yet to confirm your assertion which may or not be true. but that's far from the point. I said largely based on merit and minimum cut off being 50%.

Moreso Unilag post utme isn't a good test of knowledge its mostly based on luck. maths eng and general paper

lastly am sure you are aware that someone with zero made the merit list. The merit list released last week has been retracted.

u jez contradicted yourself..not a true test of knowledge?...a knowledgeable person is meant to knw c/affairs and the general happenings in his/her country not jez physics,chem or bio. moreover, if u write a scholarship exam are u asked physics,chem or bio in those exams..you av already done those subjects in jamb so why do it again in postutme
also we aren't sure the girl actually had 0 in postutme,it might be an error on the computer part.. we shouldn't jez assume..unilag had to retract the merit list to investigate
Honestly that's a good on unilag's part for retracting it

ibadanfinest:


4 hostel under construction ke el kanemi is re modelled and sodeinde has been renovated.
I don't know where you see your own. As for waec. we all know UI does not give a hoot about waec. infact they were forced to consider jamb this year. We all know how many people get their waec result.

Unilag does not have accommodation provision for 6000 students am telling you. even if 10 hostels are under construction. Do students live in uncompleted building?

Lastly I never said ui is totally I said largely. The fact that they accept 2 sitting in waec does not affect the 'merit'

under construction means what? remodeling or renovation isnt construction shey?

scholars hostel opp medical centre is not under construction abi?
ulws hostel beside honours hostel is not also under construction shey?

and thats a total number of what hostels under construction?

you see bro, i dont just post, i post fact..then i wont support unilag blindly, but this ur down-casting is unmerited.

and we all know ui gives a hoot abi waec, wasnt it until recently that ui started conducting putme, the basis for invitation for oral interview those years was what? please do ur findings well bro...now that ui does putme, waec is also a very important criteria, also go and make findings on how ui derives their aggregate..would have told u but since you chose to argue without fact, go and find it out for urslf and then do the honorable thing unilag did when they found out that the admission list was compromised..

and i never said ui accepting two sitting in waec negates their admission process

ui, oau has good students, nobody is doubting it. unilag also has good students.. telling the dude that if he goes to ui/oau, he would understand, please ehn, understand what? i have been to ui many times, their students are not better than unilag's student. but i wont downcast you yet, please just tell us the basis of ur judgement....

lastly, iam rerally wondering if truly you are a unilag student

greenek:


under construction means what? remodeling or renovation isnt construction shey?

scholars hostel opp medical centre is not under construction abi?
ulws hostel beside honours hostel is not also under construction shey?

and thats a total number of what hostels under construction?

you see bro, i dont just post, i post fact..then i wont support unilag blindly, but this ur down-casting is unmerited.

and we all know ui gives a hoot abi waec, wasnt it until recently that ui started conducting putme, the basis for invitation for oral interview those years was what? please do ur findings well bro...now that ui does putme, waec is also a very important criteria, also go and make findings on how ui derives their aggregate..would have told u but since you chose to argue without fact, go and find it out for urslf and then do the honorable thing unilag did when they found out that the admission list was compromised..

and i never said ui accepting two sitting in waec negates their admission process

ui, oau has good students, nobody is doubting it. unilag also has good students.. telling the dude that if he goes to ui/oau, he would understand, please ehn, understand what? i have been to ui many times, their students are not better than unilag's student. but i wont downcast you yet, please just tell us the basis of ur judgement....

lastly, iam rerally wondering if truly you are a unilag student

Yes your assertion above are correct. I never get hostel since 100 level and am in 400 level.

Lemme now explain better. The quality of your student is a function of your admission process. Unilag admission process as we speak can be improved upon.

UI nevergave credence to waec in those years, before 2012. what they did was 60-40 for waec and jamb. Mind you it was just for invitation for oral interview not automatic Admission. It is your score during interview that gives you admission. I passed through the process.

During 2012, UI reviewed its admission process and start conducting post utme exam.

What unilag needs to do is to review its admission process. how can you force a law student to write maths in its post utme, not even basic maths o, but further maths.

Hostel under construction cannot provide accomodation to current students simple so it is irrelevant.

Lastly oou or uniosun can have the overall best student, but on the average UI students can only be rivalled by ife students.

my opinion though.

ovis374:



u jez contradicted yourself..not a true test of knowledge?...a knowledgeable person is meant to knw c/affairs and the general happenings in his/her country not jez physics,chem or bio. moreover, if u write a scholarship exam are u asked physics,chem or bio in those exams..you av already done those subjects in jamb so why do it again in postutme
also we aren't sure the girl actually had 0 in postutme,it might be an error on the computer part.. we shouldn't jez assume..unilag had to retract the merit list to investigate
Honestly that's a good on unilag's part for retracting it

I will address two issues here.

1. The idea or should I say what gave birth to post utme was examination malpractice. post utme is for you to defend your jamb score. Have you ever heard of any prospective candidate dull or smart who will come out of unilag post utme exam hall and say he/she has issues with current affair questions. I have not seen, they don't complain about english either except mathematics.

Law student for example are made to write eng maths and general paper. The english questions are what my cousin in Jss3 can answer, the current affair is something evetybody can answer the law students are now left with further maths that can be answered by few. what's left is now luck.

2. The girl with zero score. Its possible its computer error, I agree. She may be so unlucky that is also possible, but how come her name is on merit list. on what basis. if computer gives her zero, that's her score on the system. any other score given to her is a fabricated score.
This is what I know, there is huge corruption in unilag admission process. its a common knowledge, no school in nigeria is innocent of this but corruption is pronounced very loud in unilag among elite schools in nigeria.

ibadanfinest:


Yes your assertion above are correct. I never get hostel since 100 level and am in 400 level.

Lemme now explain better. The quality of your student is a function of your admission process. Unilag admission process as we speak can be improved upon.

UI nevergave credence to waec in those years, before 2012. what they did was 60-40 for waec and jamb. Mind you it was just for invitation for oral interview not automatic Admission. It is your score during interview that gives you admission. I passed through the process.

During 2012, UI reviewed its admission process and start conducting post utme exam.

What unilag needs to do is to review its admission process. how can you force a law student to write maths in its post utme, not even basic maths o, but further maths.

Hostel under construction cannot provide accomodation to current students simple so it is irrelevant.

Lastly oou or uniosun can have the overall best student, but on the average UI students can only be rivalled by ife students.

my opinion though.

i so love your comment because of your end phrase "my opinion though"

Hostel accommodation is a problem in all public universities, dont single Unilag out. We dont need to debate who has the best hostel among Unilag, UI and OAU, its very obvious

And let me brief you a lil bit. before last two years, Unilag didn't care about waec in order for one to be admitted, waec only comes in place when an admitted student is been screened. Its from 2016 that unilag started doing the waec-jamb quota thing.

then take you back to 7years ago, Unilag's putme wasnt maths, eng and current affair, it was strictly your jamb combination.

You said UI didnt take waec serious, lets assume a student had C parallel in WAEC and he's putting in for lets Biochemistry, truthfully ask yourself, would the student be invited for UI's oral interview in those years? and if the student isnt invited for oral interview, the student can never be admitted into UI

If the quality of your admission process determines the quality of your student, we all know how some people write their waec and get really nice grade. Truthfully ask yourself, which of the two school's process would/should be questioned?

A law student coming to write putme, didnt the law student write maths in his/her waec? its unfortunate that few questions in the maths for putme are kinda hard but also, an engineering student would know less current affair, so, the maths balances the current affair.

Then this is just a random thought, if you wrote waec, then jamb, why should i once again test you in the subjects that this two examination bodies tested you in? I would give you something totally different. this is more reason why i loved UI's oral interview then (but before one would be picked for the interview ehn)

You opinion about your choice for best university is registered, as for me, I am not really after who has the best student or not, I prefer one that can deliver in the market place, be it Unilag or UI or even university of yobe(if there's anything like that)

ibadanfinest:



I will address two issues here.

1. The idea or should I say what gave birth to post utme was examination malpractice. post utme is for you to defend your jamb score. Have you ever heard of any prospective candidate dull or smart who will come out of unilag post utme exam hall and say he/she has issues with current affair questions. I have not seen, they don't complain about english either except mathematics.

Law student for example are made to write eng maths and general paper. The english questions are what my cousin in Jss3 can answer, the current affair is something evetybody can answer the law students are now left with further maths that can be answered by few. what's left is now luck.

2. The girl with zero score. Its possible its computer error, I agree. She may be so unlucky that is also possible, but how come her name is on merit list. on what basis. if computer gives her zero, that's her score on the system. any other score given to her is a fabricated score.
This is what I know, there is huge corruption in unilag admission process. its a common knowledge, no school in nigeria is innocent of this but corruption is pronounced very loud in unilag among elite schools in nigeria.

Your point number two, let me bring it from another light.
the computer could have recorded her real score but brought out zero. such errors happens. Ask IT people, they can tell you more about input and output. And if you have done CBT exams in Unilag as a student, you would have experienced something like this or a friend should have (where you would click on ur answers to questions and at the end, the computer would show that you didnt answer, the cbt guys would tell you that you shouldnt worry, that if you clicked on answers and click on submit that its registered, that you can go. when result comes out, you would see yours)

I am not taking out the fact that there could have been fraud, but look at things from different angles.

yes Unilag admission process might be sketchy, but same goes to other schools. But one thing I know about Unilag and can confidently say is that if you meet you cut-off mark, and your jamb combo is correct, you would be admitted. Take Unilorin for instance, they dont release cut-off mark, no admission list, how does one vet their process? I had 70 and 75 in my putme in unilorin the two years i picked them, but i wasnt admitted, and someone that had 50 was.

I can boldly say, Unilag's admission process is the most plain process among federal schools, from the onset, you know where you stand.