idsolar:
User/installer feedback
Why is power starlight vil series inverter fan so loud? Is it lk this for all d capacities?

NiyiOmoIyunade:
For the 4kw/5kw and above the big fan on the AC end/opposite the battery end of the inverter seems to be always running. I keep mine on the outside balcony so the noise doesn't really bother me.

For the 3kw and below, the fan only kicks on when the internal temperature rises to about 60 degrees C and goes off as soon as the inverter cools down a little. The fan in these units is a lot quieter.

Considering its a chinco inverter, I am undecided which I should find more reliable - the always on fan or the one that kicks on only at a particular temperature - I can say though that I have some of them in service for years now and never yet needed to change a fan and of course the load carrying ability of any of the units is outstanding - I run a 2kw microwave and 2hp AC off the 3kw unit (not simultaneously of course but I do that for the 5kw sometimes ).

Where I find them very unreliable is the charging function from the mains or generator - very finicky and prone to spoiling in a short while - I have an unverified theory that the charging function fails very quickly when using a pulser/desulfator on the battery bank the inverter is connected to - perhaps the internal components are sensitive to the transient high voltage that the electronic pulsers/desulfators put out.

NiyiOmoIyunade:
For the 4kw/5kw and above the big fan on the AC end/opposite the battery end of the inverter seems to be always running. I keep mine on the outside balcony so the noise doesn't really bother me.

For the 3kw and below, the fan only kicks on when the internal temperature rises to about 60 degrees C and goes off as soon as the inverter cools down a little. The fan in these units is a lot quieter.

Considering its a chinco inverter, I am undecided which I should find more reliable - the always on fan or the one that kicks on only at a particular temperature - I can say though that I have some of them in service for years now and never yet needed to change a fan and of course the load carrying ability of any of the units is outstanding - I run a 2kw microwave and 2hp AC off the 3kw unit (not simultaneously of course but I do that for the 5kw sometimes ).

Where I find them very unreliable is the charging function from the mains or generator - very finicky and prone to spoiling in a short while - I have an unverified theory that the charging function fails very quickly when using a pulser/desulfator on the battery bank the inverter is connected to - perhaps the internal components are sensitive to the transient high voltage that the electronic pulsers/desulfators put out.

earthrealm:


i have a 4kva 48v muspower inverter with a desulphator hooked to it. the fan only runs when the temp hits 64deg, and sometimes when desulphating.
yeah, it doesnt like being charged by then, probablly cause of flunctuating voltge or frequency....maybe diesel gen with more stable output wudnt hv the same effect.
8kva HT gen output isnt so clean jumps around intermittently from 212v to 235v...n that affects the inverter....what i do is to lower the charging current to about 22amps....and its fairly stable at this seting, if i get greedy and want higher amperage...the charging trips/fluctuates off n drops to 7amps, 2amps, 11amps etc..

my only grouse with it is the high internal consumption - wch peeps here say is upto 100w for the 4kva models and above

idsolar:
User/installer feedback
Why is power starlight vil series inverter fan so loud? Is it lk this for all d capacities?

NiyiOmoIyunade:
For the 4kw/5kw and above the big fan on the AC end/opposite the battery end of the inverter seems to be always running. I keep mine on the outside balcony so the noise doesn't really bother me.

For the 3kw and below, the fan only kicks on when the internal temperature rises to about 60 degrees C and goes off as soon as the inverter cools down a little. The fan in these units is a lot quieter.

Considering its a chinco inverter, I am undecided which I should find more reliable - the always on fan or the one that kicks on only at a particular temperature - I can say though that I have some of them in service for years now and never yet needed to change a fan and of course the load carrying ability of any of the units is outstanding - I run a 2kw microwave and 2hp AC off the 3kw unit (not simultaneously of course but I do that for the 5kw sometimes ).

Where I find them very unreliable is the charging function from the mains or generator - very finicky and prone to spoiling in a short while - I have an unverified theory that the charging function fails very quickly when using a pulser/desulfator on the battery bank the inverter is connected to - perhaps the internal components are sensitive to the transient high voltage that the electronic pulsers/desulfators put out.

earthrealm:


i have a 4kva 48v muspower inverter with a desulphator hooked to it. the fan only runs when the temp hits 64deg, and sometimes when desulphating.
yeah, it doesnt like being charged by then, probablly cause of flunctuating voltge or frequency....maybe diesel gen with more stable output wudnt hv the same effect.
8kva HT gen output isnt so clean jumps around intermittently from 212v to 235v...n that affects the inverter....what i do is to lower the charging current to about 22amps....and its fairly stable at this seting, if i get greedy and want higher amperage...the charging trips/fluctuates off n drops to 7amps, 2amps, 11amps etc..

my only grouse with it is the high internal consumption - wch peeps here say is upto 100w for the 4kva models and above

Saipro:

All points (including the desulphator ruining the charging circuitry) are confirmed from personal testing (I have 4 of those units in operation).

For the smaller units (3kW and below), if you put the fan on an always-on mode, idle consumption increases significantly.

earthrealm:

THE FAN RUNS TRUOUT WHEN CHARGING IN MINE...BUT only comes on if the temp hits 65deg in inverter mode..
i think this is normal naau

foonshur:
please @ all.... are there battery monitors that can cut-off supply to load/charger at a pre-set voltage. and can anyone recommend same?

dapsyra:



https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DC-120v-200A-LCD-Combo-Meter-Wireless-Voltage-current-KWh-Watt-Meter-12v-24v-48v-Battery/32702737018.html

foonshur:

thanks a lot... although i have seen that before in my search before coming here. i want something readily available here in nigeria

mank1234:


I've got the one pictured above in Nigeria. My asking price is N100,000

NoMoreTrolling:
Sukam 24volt 1.5kva inverter used for sale, 25k.

Call 08171942851

foonshur:

thanks a lot... although i have seen that before in my search before coming here. i want something readily available here in nigeria

foonshur:
please @ all.... are there battery monitors that can cut-off supply to load/charger at a pre-set voltage. and can anyone recommend same?

pranil:


Konga - https:///lcd-combo-meter-dc-6-5-100v-100a-kwh-12v-24v-48v-battery-power-monitoring-100a-shunt-3237514

No contact but the display flashes

or ask Kikie1 /JUO for Fangupson Clone if you want something more accurate with contact but pricy or even better the original BMV 702 ( appox 60K)

If you arrange pickup from Abuja I have a cheap Chinese voltage card I used 2 years back to start and stop gen which is lying idle. I can give for free it is 12 V though so You connect across one battery only


https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Voltage-control-relay-timer-delay-switch-overvoltage-under-voltage-protection-Free-shipping/32237248369.html?

Saipro:

All points (including the desulphator ruining the charging circuitry) are confirmed from personal testing (I have 4 of those units in operation).

For the smaller units (3kW and below), if you put the fan on an always-on mode, idle consumption increases significantly.

JohnKester:


I am having similar experience with 7.5KVA Prag. It was running normally and the both the DC and AC fans were running intermittently as needed according to the specified temperature. However, for a while now the fans have been running simultaneously at the highest speeds. At such times, the consumption would increase dramatically up to 3 or 4KW when actual load is less than 1KW, without there being any additional loads. The load can only be eliminated when the inverter is switched off and back on. Once the fans start running, the charging from the PV also drops, I guess because of the gigantic self-consumption of the inverter!

I have a 48V Desulfator (Battery Life Saver) connected to the battery bank. However, my inverter does not charge my battery bank at all, as the charging function is actually turned off since I am completely off grid and does not even charge with generator, but only PV arrays.

Could the Desulfator be the problem, because come to think of it, I noticed this mode of operation only after installing the desulfator.

Anyone with ideas what can be wrong and the possible solution would be appreciated.

Cheers

NiyiOmoIyunade:
I have been using the BLS 12/24v desulfator since 2011 - the advertised method of operation is some sort of radio frequency signal sent into the batteries to break up sulfur crystals - I doubt if it is the cause of the issues with your inverter - the kind of desulfator myself and Saipro were talking about were the electronic pulsers/desulfators which send out very brief high voltage jolts into the battery to break up the sulfur crystals.

The issue with your inverter seems more like something on the load side or an issue with the inverter board or some sensor on the board.

Have you considered that you might actually have an intermittent shorted wire or similar issue in your house making the inverter sense high load sometimes? One easy way to isolate this issue is to install a 10amp AC breaker e.g ABB or other good brand on the AC live/positive side of the inverter output - I am assuming here that your actual loads never exceed 2.4kw or 10amps at 240volts AC - if that breaker ever trips where your real load based on equipment you are running is under 2.4kw and allowing for surge current, then you definitely have a shorted wire issue or there is some load coming on somewhere in the house that you are not aware of e.g iron or microwave or heater inadvertently plugged to one of the power sockets the inverter is powering.

In any case, with the breaker attached, you have effectively set a load limit on your inverter - a 3 to 4kw load should trip a 10amps breaker, a bridged wire/short circuit scenario will definitely trip the breaker - with this you can easily eliminate/confirm the inverter as the root cause of the issue.

NiyiOmoIyunade:
I understood that the OP wanted some sort of LVD (Low Voltage Disconnect) mechanism rather than just a battery monitor - for the Victron and/or Fangpusun BMV 702 - please how do you make it disconnect the load at a preset voltage? When I look at the wiring diagrams, I see the inverter negative cable hardwired across the shunt - since the shunt is essentially a metal conductor with known resistance, I can't see how any contactors or relay would interrupt the hardwired connection except you change the wiring setup or introduce extra equipment. All the LVD settings I see also indicate activating some sort of relay or contactor to disconnect the load but such a device is not bundled out of the box with the Victron or Fangpusun clone monitors.

NiyiOmoIyunade:
I understood that the OP wanted some sort of LVD (Low Voltage Disconnect) mechanism rather than just a battery monitor - for the Victron and/or Fangpusun BMV 702 - please how do you make it disconnect the load at a preset voltage? When I look at the wiring diagrams, I see the inverter negative cable hardwired across the shunt - since the shunt is essentially a metal conductor with known resistance, I can't see how any contactors or relay would interrupt the hardwired connection except you change the wiring setup or introduce extra equipment. All the LVD settings I see also indicate activating some sort of relay or contactor to disconnect the load but such a device is not bundled out of the box with the Victron or Fangpusun clone monitors.

NiyiOmoIyunade:
I have been using the BLS 12/24v desulfator since 2011 - the advertised method of operation is some sort of radio frequency signal sent into the batteries to break up sulfur crystals - I doubt if it is the cause of the issues with your inverter - the kind of desulfator myself and Saipro were talking about were the electronic pulsers/desulfators which send out very brief high voltage jolts into the battery to break up the sulfur crystals.

The issue with your inverter seems more like something on the load side or an issue with the inverter board or some sensor on the board.

Have you considered that you might actually have an intermittent shorted wire or similar issue in your house making the inverter sense high load sometimes? One easy way to isolate this issue is to install a 10amp AC breaker e.g ABB or other good brand on the AC live/positive side of the inverter output - I am assuming here that your actual loads never exceed 2.4kw or 10amps at 240volts AC - if that breaker ever trips where your real load based on equipment you are running is under 2.4kw and allowing for surge current, then you definitely have a shorted wire issue or there is some load coming on somewhere in the house that you are not aware of e.g iron or microwave or heater inadvertently plugged to one of the power sockets the inverter is powering.

In any case, with the breaker attached, you have effectively set a load limit on your inverter - a 3 to 4kw load should trip a 10amps breaker, a bridged wire/short circuit scenario will definitely trip the breaker - with this you can easily eliminate/confirm the inverter as the root cause of the issue.

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Hello house and fellow installers, contact me for your solar panels n other products at affordable prices. We also do payment on delivery.

Solar panels

Sunshine solar
300watts mono=58k
300watts poly = 55k
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150watts poly - 27k

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3.5kva/24v( 35amps charging current) - 150k
5kva/48v ( 30amps charging current) - 185k
7.5kva 48v (40amps charging current) - 340k
10kva 48v-
Other products includes sukam, vilpower, microtek, axpert etc

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Ep solar 60amps - 129k
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Saipro:

All points (including the desulphator ruining the charging circuitry) are confirmed from personal testing (I have 4 of those units in operation).

For the smaller units (3kW and below), if you put the fan on an always-on mode, idle consumption increases significantly.

mcTrinity:


you have Epsolar 80A?

earthrealm:



so you mean the 3kw models have a fan always on/off switch?......wudnt that be dangerous,
i also hv a powerpulse desulphator hooked across my bank..guess i would try and disconnect it some day when i hv the gen charging it..lemme see if there wud be a difference in the charging amps flickering.