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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:54am On Nov 13, 2017
Edopesin:

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 7:57am On Nov 13, 2017
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 7:59am On Nov 13, 2017
Balogun has been giving OlaAina tough time in camp... Always disturbing his sleep...

But Aina dey sleep sha...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 8:00am On Nov 13, 2017
Shehu and Musa.. Close pal!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 8:01am On Nov 13, 2017
Two jollyfriend !

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 8:01am On Nov 13, 2017
Mujtahida:

I just did. Thanks

Thank God!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 8:03am On Nov 13, 2017
Mujtahida:

That combination will most likely be our midfield set up in Russia

I will like to see Ogu Mikel and Ndidi against Argentina...

Rohr will surely go for the trio of onazi Ndidi n Mikel next year... Bearing no injuries or loss of form....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 8:04am On Nov 13, 2017
tbaba1234:


Onazi has started far more games. You can not compare absolute figures, that is disingenuous. You must look at ratios.

Ogu is accumulating cards at a faster rate. 3 yellows in 4 starts in not good discipline.

In terms of minutes, Ogu has 1 yellow card every 196 minutes played
Onazi has 1 yellow card every 594 minutes played

This is not necessarily a fair comparison because he has not played much. Just like making a goal machine is not an accurate assessment.

He keeps the ball well but he is not a great scorer.

I am sorry to say that you choose what you decide to seesee. I mean placed before you are stats about all our midfielders including the one you hate to have in our team, yet you choose to blatantly ignore the good work of Ogu. This is preposterous. Agreed that he is below Onazi and Ndidi in the Super Eagles ranking.

But he brings something different from the others - scoring threat. Give the young man a break. So far he has spent shorter time on the pitch compared to Onazi and Ndidi yet he has scored than both,this is a player coming in mostly from the bench.

Agreed that he is also rash in tackles but he composes himself immediately after a booking and tones down his tackling a bit.

So I put a question to you, don't you like a MF that scores? If you were a coach and is looking at the stats of this your 3 MF, which two would you pick to start in a "must" win match?

If you are playing PEs today on your system, whose names would be your CM and DM?

Looking at the stats the guy you quoted presented.

Onazi 44 games 1 goal 4 assist
Ndidi 13 games No goal No Assist
Ogu 12 games 2 goals no assist

On Cards
Onazi 6 yellow 1 red
Ndidi no card
Ogu 3 yellow 0 red
Agu 1 yellow card

Yet you fault Ogu on tackles and card, and also talk down on his offense threat.

From your thinking, I can sense that you will be defense minded, fair play, ball possessing without bite kind of coach. A typical African blunt coach and also a Wenger kind of Coach.

In contrast, when playing me, you will meet a team that is Aggressive, spreading, ball holding, highly attack minded players (from attackers - defenders), an Alex Ferguson kind of coach. Yes! We will cause a lot of fouls but we will beat you. We will even draw out a lot of fouls from you self because our aggressive play will make you commit.

I learnt a long time ago from the game of chess that every move you make should do two things - attack and at the same time defend. As in, one chess piece you move is defending and attacking at the same time. Why, because attack is the best form of defense.

Now to your statement that Ogu is not a Lampard that scores all the time. Have you considered playing him all the time while fine tuning his goal scoring ability in order to make him score all the time? Because clearly the ability is there, isn't the grooming to bring out that ability that should be the coach's job?

For a player who is mostly on the bench, isn't it a good thing that he can come on the pitch and score as a MF after 2-3 years on the bench? I mean do you know how sitting on the bench kills a players morale? Sitting on the bench kills players carreer and makes them a shadow of their former self.

Going to the world cup we need such players.

Guy I bow for you o!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 8:05am On Nov 13, 2017
Danielnino00:
Do you think the Ndidi-Onazi-Mikel midfield combo should be Rohr first choice in Russia??
If not, who would u rather like to see in the midfield??





CC: Joebie,Thegoodjoe,Safarigirl Forgiveness, Icon4s icon79 komekn tbaba1234 Mickeal2 Mujithda, soetanoreoluwa and other distinguished members of the thread...

Don't see Rohr changing the trio come next year but I will like to see Ogu Ndidi and Mikel against Argentina tomorrow...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 8:06am On Nov 13, 2017
Icon4s:


Exactly, Remember Sani Kaita and that Greek player?

The singular drama changed the course of that game.

Exactly... I can't forget lailai
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:16am On Nov 13, 2017
Meaningless? What is meaningful then? It's no longer his SE performance, it's now his professional performance that counts? Should we read out stats too? You want to see that too? Is there no tendency you will also jump ship when the stats don't favor your bias?

To be clear, I am not saying Onazi is a bad player only proving to you that Ogu is not a bad player either and shouldn't be downgraded like some of you are doing.
tbaba1234:


Go back to my first post.. All of these stats on Ogu are meaningless because he has not played enoughThe tackling, the goal scoring etc for the super eagles.. All meaningless. The rash tackle comment was made in that context.

However, we can look at his career stats which indicate that he does not score many goals and he will not give you, the work output of Onazi or Ndidi.

Now, he has a lot to offer but let us not make him to be, what he isn't.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 8:16am On Nov 13, 2017
somehow:
This is wrong, 3 yellow cards in 4 starts? Haba. 2 was from friendly matches which is inconsequential. Onazi got one from friendly and 5 from competitive matches, Ogu only got one in all competitive matches he has played.

To label Ogu a rash tackler is wrong, he's not worse than Onazi.

I never said Ogu was a "great" scorer but better than his counterparts in that position when it comes to conversion.

Mikel Obi has played 72 times for us, 6 goals, 12 assists and 10 yellow cards.

Ogu remains the highest goal scorer per time spent among the listed names.

Abeg leave that guy make e dey shout "work output" "work output". It's like he has a personal beef with Ogu.

Of what use is work output if you are 2 goals down? By then all you will need is goals to atleast equalize. From strikers, midfielders or defenders. Anywhere.

The guy is not offense minded.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:18am On Nov 13, 2017
Those using mobile should vote via mobile Firefox.
soetanoreoluwa:


Please give me the link.. For voting... Struggling with it here...


Modified : I have voted! Thanks

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:26am On Nov 13, 2017
Me just tire, first I thought Ogu was truly bad and I was having a wrong notion until I decided to even reverify my stands on him.
realpoacher:


Abeg leave that guy make e dey shout "work output" "work output". It's like he has a personal beef with Ogu.

Of what use is work output if you are 2 goals down? By then all you will need is goals to atleast equalize. From strikers, midfielders or defenders. Anywhere.

The guy is not offense minded.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:46am On Nov 13, 2017
Mujtahida:

Let them play let us see. In camp they play against their team mates. It can never be the same as playing against the opposition. We have nothing to lose. Once you play one or two matches we can gauge your quality. If you are good, you stay, if not you go. Remember it's depth we are looking for-options as good as the first eleven. Remember anything can happen like we just had six injuries in one week.

It does not work like that. Most of the studying and competition for places go on in camp. After that, the coach brings out his selection of the best in every role. The coach's job is not to play players in role for others to see and feel who is better. That job lies with the coach and his crew.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:50am On Nov 13, 2017
somehow:
Lol, iheanacho that fell more than 3 times in 90 mins is the one to press ball holding defenders like he's known for that? Keep up the hype boss lol.

Iheanacho fell because the pitch was bad, not because he could not press. This one is not even up for debate. There is no hype in stating a fact.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Loogan(m): 8:55am On Nov 13, 2017
Mickael2:



scoring a quality goal and being creative aren't the same thing na. I didnt know that scoring a goal now makes people creative, the lads in here are funny

Your the funny one, and it's unfortunate you people like to drag players down just to defend some silly point of yours.
I don't understand you, if scoring a curler from 25yards out is not being creative, then what is? Is it until he gives 3assists in one match before you acknowledge he has some creativity in his game.
Apart from mikel who's the most creative center midfielder we have in the team presently? Since you know a lot about creativity from midfield.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:56am On Nov 13, 2017
go try for cyber cafe. No be phone u first try use?

safarigirl:
who I wan send am to?Who I know?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:02am On Nov 13, 2017
Rohr will make the best decision for the interest of the team, considering other factors.
For now, Aina is ahead of Echiejile at LB. If Idowu fails to come better than Aina at LB, it will be in the best interest of the team to keep Aina at LB.
Modified:
But if Idowu proves to be a very solid LB, then we can start talking about who is a better RB between Aina and Shehu. Then Aina should have his chance at RB in friendlies.

komekn:


We do not conclusively yet because Aina best RB in the championship has not been allowed to play his natural RB position so that a direct comparison can be made to Shehu.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 9:06am On Nov 13, 2017
The pitch was bad for only him? He doesn't have the stamina to press like the person you compared him with. that's fact!
TheGoodJoe:


Iheanacho fell because the pitch was bad, not because he could not press. This one is not even up for debate. There is no hype in stating a fact.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:10am On Nov 13, 2017
somehow:
The pitch was bad for only him? He doesn't have the stamina to press like the person you compared him with. that's fact!

Everyone had problem with the pitch. The reason why he fell repeatedly is because Nacho plays with a high velocity especially when he makes runs. In the second half, he fell less because he was getting used to the pitch.

That is not where you use to judge the ability of a player to press. As I said, this is not even a topic for debate.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:13am On Nov 13, 2017
Just when I thought I had heard it all this one comes up grin

Anyways I insist you are joking, nice one sha


Loogan:


Your the funny one, and it's unfortunate you people like to drag players down just to defend some silly point of yours.
I don't understand you, if scoring a curler from 25yards out is not being creative, then what is? Is it until he gives 3assists in one match before you acknowledge he has some creativity in his game.
Apart from mikel who's the most creative center midfielder we have in the team presently? Since you know a lot about creativity from midfield.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:14am On Nov 13, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Everyone had problem with the pitch. The reason why he fell repeatedly is because Nacho plays with a high velocity especially when he makes runs. In the second half, he fell less because he was getting used to the pitch.

That is not where you use to judge the ability of a player to press. As I said, this is not even a topic for debate.


Nacho is not fast, high intensity MAYBE but not high velocity and I don't see the relationship between intensity and falling on the pitch
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 9:18am On Nov 13, 2017
soetanoreoluwa:


How many MOTM Awards obagoal won? Is obagoal the best player in his team?
I don give you like for this


I can dig up over 10 mentions of this kind I've asked him and he never responded to

Watch out how he'll skip this as if you never asked him
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 9:19am On Nov 13, 2017
Na only him dey play with high velocity? What about Shehu? Iwobi? They don't play with high velocity? Keep confusing the whole issue with "big big" grammar. Anyways we go see who the coach will use as his point man come 2018 world cup. No more no less.
TheGoodJoe:


Everyone had problem with the pitch. The reason why he fell repeatedly is because Nacho plays with a high velocity especially when he makes runs. In the second half, he fell less because he was getting used to the pitch.

That is not where you use to judge the ability of a player to press. As I said, this is not even a topic for debate.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:19am On Nov 13, 2017
jihday:
just listen to yourself, so for example Wenger should bench bellerin and use an academy player just for testing sake.

I just tire.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by enomakos(m): 9:28am On Nov 13, 2017
jstbeinhonest:
Anything less than a 2-goal margin win on Tuesday would be dissapointing in my opinion.
did you think we are playing Malta?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:37am On Nov 13, 2017
soetanoreoluwa:
Shehu and Musa.. Close pal!

You know they definitely have to be naa.

Ranka dede things.

Hahaha.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lexyman(m): 9:38am On Nov 13, 2017
komekn:


You consider Chinese league not competitive, 5 players from the Chinese league are in the Brazilian squad. Striker Tardelli, Paulinho, Hulk, to name a few could be more.

The league is good enough for the team selection of Brazil arguably the best team in the world this decade but not good enough for Nigeria.

Yet some have written off Obagoal for players who have not achieved and may never achieve one tenth of what he has achieved in football.



will you consider Obagoal in the super eagles ? are you clamouring for his call up .
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 9:57am On Nov 13, 2017
kingphilip:
I don give you like for this


I can dig up over 10 mentions of this kind I've asked him and he never responded to

Watch out how he'll skip this as if you never asked him

I know he won't quote it ... I have replied alot of his comments and still he avoided reply... I will keep asking those questions if he keeps downgrading certain players to elevate his...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 9:58am On Nov 13, 2017
The man weak me with his "points".
Icon4s:


Hahaha, you should know TheGoodJoe that even if Iheanacho scored an own-goal he would say he did the right thing.

By and large, yes, the field contributed negatively to the play of our players. However, Iheanacho was not the only player affected.

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