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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 8:47am On Nov 14, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 8:48am On Nov 14, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 8:51am On Nov 14, 2017 |
tbaba1234:Shehu and Aina are full backs not wing backs. Dont expect that much width coming from both players. We need Victor Moses and maybe Sone Aluko (I think he could make a decent wing back) to pull this off. Shehu and Aina are not skillful enough to fly past 2 markers (wing backs must possess this quality) cc Mujtahida 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:07am On Nov 14, 2017 |
I think I've seen Aina play wingback before, according to livescore formations, at least. Also, completesports is saying they'll play a 3-5-2 with Akpeyi. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EmmGee: 9:13am On Nov 14, 2017 |
tbaba1234:The wingbacks are very important in this formation. i would like to see shehu rwb and moses lwb |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:14am On Nov 14, 2017 |
Mujtahida: if he starts with that 3-4-3 formation it might get embarrasing for us. Let me start from the back, our GKs are not confident, a 3man backline requires an active GK but this is the least of our problems. In the defence you have Awaziem listed as the RCB and Balogun in the LCB spot. I already pointed out that using inverted wingers is a risky biz, you could see that some clearances Aina made in the last match were less than perfect because he was using his weaker foot just like I predicted, now you are playing Awaziem and Balogun, two right-footed CBs, in the LCB and RCB, they will find it hard to make proper clearances(Awaziem most especially) and when you consider the wingers they are about to face...... That brings us to the fullbacks. Aina I am okay with but playing him the LWB formation is wrong, he is going to have a performance similar to the one he had against Algeria, you can see he is quality but he will still struggle. For us to effectively utilise Aina in that left side we need to reach out to his clubside and convince them to play him there a little more often. Then we come to the guy who would lose the most in this formation, Shehu. There is a reason why Azpilicueta does not play the WB role and when he does he is always below average. Shehu is NOT GOOD offensively and his take-on rate is very very poor, crosses too are very very poor(I doubt if he has had one succesful cross throughout the qualifers bar that cutback for Iwobi) and he also does not have the pace. Argentina will have Dybala running across our backline looking for spaces to exploit and Shehu's lack of pace will expose that space perfectly then you may argue that our DMF will cover and that brings us to the midfield.... Ndidi is not an out-and-out DMF so he can not do the work that will be assigned to him which is covering the fullbacks effectively for 90minutes and then we have Ogu who isn't exactly fast. Bear in mind that their CF is Belotti so our central CB will have his hands full so in most cases Ogu will have to fall back and help out thus making room infront of the defence for Banega and the likes to exploit. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:39am On Nov 14, 2017 |
goldfish80: Your contributions on this matter has raised my respect for you on a large scale. I doubt you are against having foreign groomed talent. Neither am I. However, we need a model to build a real strong base of the team. Promote continuity. We need to put in conscious efforts to improve our football development here. Relying on a foreign base will leave us with an unsustainable model and keep us behind other great footballing nations. 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:43am On Nov 14, 2017 |
Mickael2: 2010 stats. That is seven years ago. Back then, Sneijder was one of the best players in the World. Zanetti was one of the best players in the World. Heck, Ballack was a regular for Germany. When it concerns 2017 football, we can not work with 2010 stats. 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 9:48am On Nov 14, 2017 |
Mickael2:This is not the right game to test the 3-4-3 formation. Its too risky as most of the players will be playing a strange role against a superior Argentine team. What Rohr should be after in this game is to discover more cohesion and the depth of his bench. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:49am On Nov 14, 2017 |
tbaba1234: Would rather have Ekong in the middle because he is our best ball playing defender. I also hope we are not overloading Ndidi by playing him in a 2 man midfield, we don't want him going back to his club fatigued that would be counterproductive. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:53am On Nov 14, 2017 |
Your position is well understood. Doesn't still make it logical. Whether you choose to base the foundation of a team with foreign-groomed, home based, foreign based etc it wouldn't kill a generation of players. Remove sentiments, and pick the best irrespective of where they are based or groomed. Stop the tagging/prejudice. goldfish80: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 9:58am On Nov 14, 2017 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:59am On Nov 14, 2017 |
it's a non competitive match, and not a must win. You can try whatever you want in friendlies. If they come good, then great!! If we lose, then great! There will be more lessons to be learnt. The earlier we learn our lessons the better. MetalJigsaw: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 10:04am On Nov 14, 2017 |
Mujtahida:Why? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 10:04am On Nov 14, 2017 |
tbaba1234:No Ghana |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 10:08am On Nov 14, 2017 |
EmmGee:That Mikek-Iwobi area is mouth-watering. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 10:11am On Nov 14, 2017 |
Joebie:Not but but I think Rohr should base on which players can brake into his first 11. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:12am On Nov 14, 2017 |
MetalJigsaw:Why what? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:14am On Nov 14, 2017 |
first congratulation for the world cup qualification and this beautiful serie in this qualification ![]() just wanted to show poeples who attacks the refree for his decision givin a penalty . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx7w-_Q_mvQ when you see the action in HD and slow motion *0,25 , you will see that brahimi pass the defender and was going to the goal ( pic1 ) , the defender charge him from his back with both hands and try to grab him judo style ( pic 2 ) , and brahimi resist to the charge, stayed on his feet instead of going down but lost the ball . and even when he fall he try to grab the leg of brahimi ( pic 3 ) So even my self if i was the refree i wouldnt give a penalty and i will let the action continue , but the decision of this refree could be justified according to the football rules . the player havnt touch the ball and touch the player ... penalty
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 10:18am On Nov 14, 2017 |
Mujtahida:Why you won't miss the absent teams. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:19am On Nov 14, 2017 |
goldfish80:Excellent points. But it's a friendly and the coach wants to experiment. It's just that like you rightly pointed Shehu and Aina might not be the right personel for this tactics. Moreover it's just a postulation- we are not sure yet. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:21am On Nov 14, 2017 |
Joebie:I regret engaging you on this topic. I should have stopped the moment you said I will grow grey hair looking for talented football players in Nigeria. On a second thought, it was good I continued. Otherwise ignorance would have reigned supreme on the thread. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:29am On Nov 14, 2017 |
you will grow gray hair finding them from your home..or can you name talents from the streets in Nigeria from where you are right now? I can sit here and research on my computer and dig out names in Europe. See how you tell lies after I cleared you on that. I still havn't learned anything from you till date. I've learned from so many here. it's unfortunate. You who said we should leave the problem to our grandchildren. you are just like our leaders before now. Let's keep pushing the problem because we are bereft of ideas. goldfish80: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:30am On Nov 14, 2017 |
goldfish80:Granted you are not against foreign born players neither am I against home based players. The sole criteria is quality irrespective of where you are born. That being said, I however do not understand how basing the foundation of our national team (I'm not saying this should be done but for argument sake let's examine the point) on FB players stops us from developing our league. The way I see it is this: having a good league impacts on our national team but having a national team dominated by fb does not have effect on our home league and this point I made in an exhaustive post last time. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:36am On Nov 14, 2017 |
Joebie:He has a point though regarding the timing. We might be trying a highly workable formation at the wrong time because the personel to give bite to this formation are not there eg Moses. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:38am On Nov 14, 2017 |
MetalJigsaw:I said I would miss all of them except Cameroun and Algeria. The reason is obvious na. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:38am On Nov 14, 2017 |
Joebie: Leaving the problem to our great grand kids was a chided remark to your idea of setting up shop to get all the European born Nigerian football players to commit to the Super Eagles. Keep waiting for fourfourtwo magazine to dig out talented footballers walking the streets of Nigeria for your googling pleasure. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:40am On Nov 14, 2017 |
I'm just saying friendlies are for experiments. That's the main purpose. Mujtahida: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:43am On Nov 14, 2017 |
I'm sure people will want to learn something from you. No valid suggestions yet. We can keep talking all day and not learn anything. That our league is in a dismal state is known to everyone. So what if we "set shops"? The whole world is setting shops and moving forward. You want to stay backward in order to keep your unreasonable pride? What are you proud of? goldfish80: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 10:46am On Nov 14, 2017 |
Seriously, Uzoho has come a long way. It's really so funny the dimensions his journey and growth took before he got where he is today. To those in awe of his abilities with his foot please read this crazy excerpt from his wiki page " Born in Nwangele , [1] Uzoho joined Qatari Aspire Academy in 2013, aged 14; INITIALLY A FORWARD , he was CONVERTED into a GOALKEEPER after being deemed "too slow" at the age of 12. [3] In 2016, after impressing on a tournament in Barcelona, he joined Deportivo de La Coruña's Juvenil squad. [3]" The words in caps got me really, I avnt read something so queer on a player's profile in long while. Cc da goodjoe. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:47am On Nov 14, 2017 |
Mujtahida:It's academic if you have a team of 18 foreign born players, you will become lazy to develop the home talents. What's the point developing them, when you have an easy way out with the foreign born /developed players? This becomes a problem when you need to freshen up the team. You have no fall back option, no framework for sustainable development. This could take a full 10 years to reset the system once again. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 10:51am On Nov 14, 2017 |
Mutiu Adepoju: Argentina are strong even without Messi ![]() The Super Eagles legend feels La Albiceleste remain a solid side without their inspirational skipper ahead of Tuesday’s friendly Mutiu Adepoju believes Nigeria will not be facing a “lesser” Argentina despite the absence of Lionel Messi. The Barcelona star will miss La Albiceleste’s friendly against the Super Eaglesafter withdrawing from the team to return to Spain. Messi was on from start to finish as the South Americans beat Russia 1-0 in Moscow on Saturday, thanks to Sergio Aguero’s late strike. However, La Liga Nigeria’s chief who expects a good game does not think the absence of their captain will weaken Jorge Sampaoli's squad when they clash with Gernot Rohr’s men in Krasnodar. “His [Messi] absence doesn't mean we're facing a lesser Argentina. Argentina will always be Argentina,” Adepoju told Goal. “The quality of players in that team cannot be written off as they play in top clubs in Europe and even in South America. ![]() “No doubt, Messi is one of the best in the world but his absence doesn't mean Argentina will be a very easy team for the Super Eagles. “He is the one who moves the ball in the team but other players are equally good, so when we're talking about their striking area, the midfield and the defence, our boys [Super Eagles] must be at their best.” Both countries have met seven times with Nigeria’s only victory over the two-time world champions recorded on June 1, 2011as Ikechukwu Uche’s brace powered Samson Siasia’s men to a 4-1 victory. Also, Adepoju insists that not minding the outcome, Gernot Rohr’s men must take plenty of positives which will help their preparations for the 2018 Fifa World Cup. “Whether we lose or not, it doesn't matter because it's a friendly game but it's important we get the positives for our World Cup preparations,” he continued. “We're playing against Argentina, one of the toughest teams we can face in the World Cup. Playing against them will let us see many things that can help us before the competition. “Not thinking about whether we win or win, we just have to take the positives but our players need to put everything and play as if it's a competitive game.” ![]() m.goal.com/x/en-ng/news/17252/super-eagles/2017/11/14/40218672/mutiu-adepoju-argentina-are-strong-even-without-messi |
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