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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 10:48pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
tbaba1234:I'm yet to see that Bazee guy play. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:48pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
Ehen coward better sef. When you can neither fix your internal problem nor can even make approaches for what is good for you because of fear of rejection. na coward bet that. @ mujtahida komekn: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:53pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
Joebie:I think it's important to first get clarification from him regarding his use and understanding of certain words when you want to get into debates with him. If not you'd end up arguing in such a way that one person says 'bulldog is not a dog but rottweiler is a dog' and the other person will scream 'bulldogs and rottweilers are both dogs na' |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:53pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
Joebie: We do not have a scanner to find the not feeling Nigerian crew. So when I say enquire is like Mikel Obi asking Aina when he is willing to play for us or Rohr calling Idowu to enquire if he will play for us. If someone called Alaba, no beef. If the player says he is not interested or if he is dragging his feet, no need for further contacts to convince. Let him know the door is open and when he is willing to play for us, he can let us know (declare). No need going all out to convince a player who finds it strange playing for us. Or a player who has a burning desire to play for another country over us. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:54pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
komekn:Thanks. I'm that way everybody is covered. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:56pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
Joebie: I don't intend to cause offence, but I find that suggestive proposition nonsensical. It shows indepth ignorance, parochial thinking and a refusal to empathise with the position and circumstances of other people not within your associative network. I gave a first hand personal experience of how I suggested / invited a Nigerian origin player to go to camp in Abuja without formal invitation. He refused saying that's not the way things are done, that do I want him to be the subject of public ridicule ![]() Cut a long story within two years he ended up playing for Nigeria. English born and or cultured Nigerian origin players simply do not understand the culture dynamics norms and etiquette that surround our interactions. In most cases. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:56pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
Joebie:Hahahaha hahahaha. That's borderline insanity bro |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:57pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
Joebie: They played to instruction because Rohr set-up the team to play negative due to his personnel selection. You can not select Sergio Ramos to play as a defensive midfielder and expect him to play like Yaya Toure playing the same role. Even if you instruct him to play like Fernandinho, he can not. So using the term play to instruction is not precise. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:59pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
No Mikel told Aina he should play for Nigeria. And Aina asked if Nigeria has invited him. Does that not sound like "that's not how things are done"? So you then go to Mikel and ask him, what did Aina say? Which kind toasting bet that.. e just be like those days when guys dey send pickin to go talk to girl.. lol So Rohr calling Idowu is not "begging"? What if Idowu said no, won't you say that's a slap in the face? Won't it hurt the pride you were trying to protect? TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Dedebanky85: 11:00pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
Pass that kush u de blaw to another person. It's making you hallucinate. Aluko was close to which three lions? The English national team or abi u mean the 3 lions that were in the zoo? Please say something else. You keep coming up with excuses to paint Naija coaches bad and paint your beloved English born players as worldies. You said Fashanu was on the bench. But I remember reading that Otto Gloria didn't like his style of play. So how many games did your talented Fashanu play for England? That you hail from England does not guarantee you a playing shirt. Aluko was never ever close to playing for three Lions. Please name which outfield player has played for England from Rangers in the past 2 decades. I can't even see any suggestions online. Closest was Forster a goal keeper at the time with Celtic. Even though I appreciate Aluko's talent, but he's not all that else he would command a shirt like Moses and Iwobi. Or abi no be England those ones been grow up? Guy chill on these your okirika players e.g. Aneke and Co. forgiveness: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:01pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
komekn: Let him be waiting for the way things are done. If he likes let him not write to the coach or officials of the NFF letting them know he is available for selection. Is it not here where there was a highlight of a player trying to reach coach Amunike by replying a comment with a letter. Is it not Senninger who came to Nigeria and declare his interest. If a player is U20 and there is an open camp in Nigeria, if he can come to the camp, he should come. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:02pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
junnyjake:5 countries representing the continent. It's an African project now oooo. Go to BBC Africa football page and see how Zambians were happy at the way we defeated Argentina. Except SA our bad belle brothers. My one concern though is that playing the qualifiers after the world cup would be too far into 2018 as the time between the resumption of the qualifiers and Afcon 2019 might be too short and European teams would not want to release their players and many of the players might not even want to come because the world cup with its ginger is behind them. It would have been better to just leave it as it was as in Seychelles in March. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:02pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: With respect you have no idea what you are talking about. I really expected a a whole lot more depth to your appreciation of this issue. It's far from simplistic the way you put it. This is something thankfully Amaju appreciates and understands. A guy who has grown mostly in Warri and the Delta but has far more understanding than some of you who are in cosmopolitan Lagos who should know so much better. The core issue is relationship prior present and future. We should not be waiting for the FA to recognise our Nigerian players before we do. We essentially jump on the bandwagon without creating any relationship to leverage our position. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:04pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
Joebie: Mikel asked Aina are you ready to play for Nigeria. Finish. Aina asking if Nigeria has invited him does not add up. We do not know if he is ready to play for us. Until we know before he can get an invitation. That is not begging. That is Enquiring if Idowu is willing to play for us. No beef with that. The problem is if he says no r he is not sure and then we want to convince I'm to play for us. That is begging. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 11:04pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
Mujtahida: The new rule states every team will travel to the party with 25 players. 23 official players for the mundial and 2 on standby. Read it somewhere and heard it again on Brilafm days back |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:05pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
oga long talk. You are saying he chose the wrong players for that formation, simple. Then that's not far from what that writer was saying. The writer said Aina and Shehu did not play well according to what the formation demands. It's pretty much the same.. just that you seem to be blaming the coach for his wrong choice. while the writer is blaming the players. But hey, don't forget Aina bombed forward when he played against Zambia. Shehu also bombed forward in what led to Iwobi's goal. In Shehu's impressive games for SE, he was seen going forward, and combining very well. They were not just good enough against Argentina. TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:06pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
komekn: You that have all the idea, tell your boy when he is ready, he will use his leg and find Nigeria. Waiting for call-up is a joke because no one knows if he wants to play for us. There are players who even send their tapes to coaches hoping the coaches like what they see and call them. What makes this one better than them. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:07pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
nelszx:I am okay with this. Very heartwarming information. I'll confirm it. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:08pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
Joebie: Your first line is totally off point. I said Rohr wanted to keep it tight at the back and chose players to help him achieved that. When we were down, he opted for players who can contribute more offensively. The formation can not be only played one way. . |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:09pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
haha.. oya dig the story of Aina and Mikel.. If I am wrong I will concede.. Okay so which player did we try to convince after he had said no? let's put this in perspective TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:10pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Someone who has never been to Nigeria in his life has no connection with Nigeria. Should just jump on a plane with all the possible dangers true and untrue. Is that what you are actually suggesting ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:12pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe , here it is: "I keep asking him: 'When are you going to come and play for Nigeria?' and he jokes: 'Whenever you come and invite me I will play!" Mikel told Goal. "I think it is something that we would have to discuss. "If he wants to play, we would have to speak to the federation and make sure that he really wants to play for Nigeria. If he is ready, we can talk about, but in the few times we have talked about it, he hasn’t given me a very positive, decisive answer to take back to the FA. "I need a positive answer for me to take the case forward to the FA. We will see what happens." 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 11:12pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
Icon4s:send the link here 4 us to see people's responds and reactionsis on their twitter handle? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:13pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
tbaba1234:I think we would get one of those German born guys. I read in a forum that Felix Uduokhai seems to be leaning towards opting for Nigeria as his recent decisions to not attend the German U20 squad and his non listing for the recent German U21 friendly internationals suggest. Please confirm. But something is definitely afoot for Rohr to say that new players will break in. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:14pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
First line was off point.. how about the subsequent lines? Does it not refute your assumption? TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:16pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
I think this needs to be revised one more time as some issues especially that of player bonuses have already been trashed out by the NFF. Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:16pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: I don't know how true the assertion in bold is. Nonetheless, that entire conversation is completely underpinned by one word RELATIONSHIP. Mikel has been like a big brother to Aina watching him in the academy grow etc Just the same way I see young Bobby Adekanya in Liverpool academy with the younger boys irrespective of age. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 11:16pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
ykalhaji:Don't you think those speculations went too deep and unnecassry? Brian made his choice himself to play for Nigeria, he wasn't forced to select any of the teams. He said in an interview that he's more needed by Nigeria and that's a fact. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:18pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
One advice for you. Read your submission at least once before you post. I have bolded your first line. Read through it again and again. Now tell me what it means. TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:20pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
Tell am oh modified how do you create a system of asking Super Eagles players to talk to these lads without relationship? And he said that's not begging.. if i send pikin to go talk to girl, what is that? lovely declaration system. komekn: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:20pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:Ohhhhhh my God! Hahaha hahahaha hahahaha Goodjoe ehn. You are insufferable. But the bolded is what we've been saying since na. Inquire by asking, then you know who feels and who does not feel Nigerian Only thing me I still believe in convincing those who do not 'feel Nigerian'. It takes just a smile of a little Nigerian boy, the touch of warmth and hospitality and love from us to change the feeling of 'not feeling Nigerian' to 'feeling Nigerian.' Mind you by our Constitution they are already Nigerian citizen. It's just for footballing reasons that we get into all this switch issues. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:21pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
Mujtahida: I'm not downplaying the importance of preparing well for the WC though. Those qualifiers are also of importance to us and also to our WC preparations. I agree with your 2nd paragraph, by that time, the season is still a bit fresh and crucial, most teams would be looking to hold on to their players for bonding. There are 5 matches to be played, good luck to CAF spreading them reasonably from November to months before June/july when the competition kicks off. |
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