Icon79:
Let me post this again because I think it's fitting in this instance:

Mickael2 (insert komekn here), like most football analysts, I think you're underestimating the level of Nigerian players due to the football clubs they play or do not play for. A few years ago I published an article in a Naija daily regarding a peculiar Nigerian perspectives in football.

Take this for instance, when the Nigerian U-23 team lined up at the China Olympics soccer event final, the profile of the players could not have been more different from their Argentine counterparts:

At CD Argentina had Ezekiel Garay of Real Madrid, Nigeria had Dele Adeleye from the bench of dutch basement club Sparta Rotterdam. Just over a year ago, he was at Shooting Stars, oscillating between Division 1 and 2.

At LB, with the responsibility of marking the dreaded Leo Messi; yes Lionel Messi of Barcelona, was Chibuzor Okonkwo from Bayelsa United, a right footed player converted to LB.

In CM, where Argentina had Riquelme, Gago and Mascherano, arguably the best DM in the world at that time, Nigeria presented Ebenezer Ajilore of Mydjtilland and from the bench at Sparta, Sanni Kaita. A few years ago, Ajilore plied his trade at Ebiede Babes, a Lagos youth club.

But as the game unfolded, the confidence of the Nigerian players and the cautious approach their opponents showed, belied the reputation and CV of Argentina's players.

This effectively proved two things, if you can believe it:

(i) that the club status of the Nigerian players does not accurately reflect their real quality; and that

(ii) a new measure is urgently required to determine the quality of our players; one that is not entirely dependent on the judgment of European club managers whose philosophy of the game and needs, vis a vis their clubs, may not necessarily be in alignment with the development of the average Nigerian player, or the SE.


O pari

The question I will use to qualify your proposition.

How far have our youth players progressed over the years We get to very high accolades at youth level that does not transfer to professional development.

Look at the that 2005 team that included Mikel. Consider where the majority of Argentinian players have progressed to over the past 12 years and then see where our players have got too.

That observation is reflective in all our youth teams but less so since 2013. The advent of MRI scanning.

maidaboi:
yes

Whao!he deserves invitation but i don't see guys making much recommendation on him.

He should be a good deputy to Ndidi as DM since we have Onazi and Ogu as CM or what do you think

Icon79:
Thank you! Just a few years ago, Pep Guardiola confessed that Ike Uche alone totally outplayed the entire Barca squad.

Bottom line, out boys are better than the football clubs they play for. Out players are underrated and undervalued in Europe. There are no two ways about it. Hence, I pray and hope that we do very well in the World Cup because that's one way to increase the value of our players.


O pari

Did that under valuation.

Prevent Drogba, Bonny, Obagoal, Kanu, Finidi, JJay and most recently KC, Ndidi or the Senegalese Demba Ba, Cisse, etc, etc

You are looking for very weak excuses. There is no colour or nationality in money. If you perform all things being equal you progress.

Why is Zaha the most prized winger in English football but he plays for Palace and CIV.

Our boys are not performing to the required level.

The truth must be told KC is not performing to the required level , Musa is not performing, Isaac Success is a waste man, .

Ndidi is performing, Onyekuru is performing, Obagoal is performing, etc

ChrisKels:
E b like Uzoho go start for Deportivo LA Coruna today oo against Malaga

Good for the boy and super eagles.How i wish Alampasu can get the same opportunity and Ajiboye manned the post for CHAN eagles in January.

I see us having solid options in goalkeeping just like in fullbacks we used to complain about sometimes ago.

I wish Uzoho well all he need is composure and confidence now nothing more,with runs of games in LA liga i don't see need for Enyeama.

ChrisKels:
E b like Uzoho go start for Deportivo LA Coruna today oo against Malaga

I credit Rohr for this because the boy's calming performance against Argentina must have played a role in this recall.

EmmGee:

my initial thought was "wwhat is oga joebie talking about. But now o get his point

Ok

Kog45:
Whao!he deserves invitation but i don't see guys making much recommendation on him.

He should be a good deputy to Ndidi as DM since we have Onazi and Ogu as CM or what do you think

may be because he is not from England
he is good and should be look in the SE setup

komekn:


In any forward thinking organisation there is continous development. To increase thier competitive advantage.

Stability over continous improvement means stagnation which in turn will lead to mediocrity. Stability as you put it and in this context is essentially the enthronement of mediocrity.

I have had involvement with a good number of clubs in the EPL and Championship. I have never heard of the word stability over continous consistent improvement and development.

Both stability and continous improvement in good measure. An English idiom says a rolling Stone gathers no Moss. You cannot in the name of improvement keep changing the team in such a way that the team acquires no tone or rhythm. If stability overrides continous development there's the risk of complacency setting in. If new additions are made at blistering pace there's the risk of having players but no team. Balance is the key word and I think Rohr is moving at a steady pace on both indices. Uzoho, Onyekuru, Nwakali, Ebuehi, Agu were not there in the beginning but there are in the frame now.

@the bolded: you need not hear it. How many players did Chelsea bring into the first team this season? Why didn't they overhaul the whole team. I hope you know that there are players better than each of the Chelsea players.

I repeat: everything in good measure. Seems to me as if you are not concerned about the SE per se. As I've said before your concern is to get the SE chock full of FB players in the UK.

Kog45:
My man is not about like but performance.

If we want to based it on likeness then we w not have a solid team.

No doubt Isaac Success is a talented player but presently he need to get fit and back to form.He can only do this by playing week in week out which is not guaranteed, so why putting hope on such player.

Isaac making the team is dicey no sentiment but based on current situation.Honestly my advice for him is to seek loan to may be championship club in January and regained his form for national team consideration..

The issue of likeness should not arise but performance nothing more,enough of past glory especially youth football glory.

If we are making case for Success then we are unfair to player like Awoniyi, Osimhen, Kelechi Nwakili, Joel Obi,Sadiq Umar,Alhassan Muzzam at least we are seeing them every week.

On Oyekwuru the guy is doing it every week and deserves a place in the squad for now ahead of off form Success but it's left for Oyekwuru to grab his opportunity or else he lose out,no time to waste on any player.

We were playing on words. The success I meant I like is 'success' as a human value not necessarily the player.

Nigeria vs Argentina: Rohr speaks on 4-2 victory
SPORT
Published on November 14, 2017
By Ifreke Inyang
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Head coach of the Super Eagles, Gernot Rohr, has praised the duo of goalkeeper Francis Odinaka Uzoho and Brian Idowu, after their 4-2 win over Argentina in an international friendly on Tuesday night.
The two players made their debut for Nigeria and impressed the German tactician.
Idowu scored on his debut after coming on for Ola Aina, while Uzoho ensured Nigeria didn’t concede again after he replaced Daniel Akpeyi who conceded both goals.
“Brian is a newcomer in the team, but he’s not the only one. We have three new players, and I would like to highlight our 19-year-old goalkeeper Uzoho. He played well. Such matches are specially designed so that we can asses new players in the team. We have three players who have a special relationship with Russia.
“We have Ahmed Musa and the captain (Mikel Obi) of the team. He has a connection here through the family. Brian played well, scored a goal. His prospects depend on how he will perform at the club. His debut, I’m happy. On his position we have other options, so who will pick who plays better, he will be involved in the fight,” Rohr stated afterwards.

maidaboi:
may be because he is not from England
he is good and should be look in the SE setup

I don't think so cos Ebuhei is from the same Dutch league,wish to see him(Ryan Sanusi)and Dessers in eagles set up.

Kog45:
I don't think so cos Ebuhei is from the same Dutch league,wish to see him(Ryan Sanusi)and Dessers in eagles set up.

That Dessers is good ooo. Very nifty guy.

Mujtahida:

We were playing on words. The success I meant I like is 'success' as a human value not necessarily the player.

OK get your point,sorry just gatecrashed to your discussion but trying to come into your discussion with elyte89 on Isaac Success

Mujtahida:
Hahahaha hahahaha. I do ooo

shey u see naw

Mujtahida:

That Dessers is good ooo. Very nifty guy.

Yea just watched some of his clips but what can you say on Ryan Sanusi.

Mujtahida:

That Dessers is good ooo. Very nifty guy.

to compare we shld get there stats and youtube highlights to see who is more efficient n effective.

i still believe paul is more effective.

Kog45:
Yea just watched some of his clips but what can you say on Ryan Sanusi.

I have not seen Ryan Sanusi. Oga Kog45, if we continue going for FB players at this rate are you sure a time will come when we Nigerian born foreign based players will cry marginalisation? We have to be careful oo

very poor from owngoal. look what they created outta the lil info i dropped here yesterday


Rohr Still Searching For Options In Defence Despite 4-2 Win Over Argentina
November 19, 201706

Coach of the Super Eagles of Nigeria Gernot Rohr is keen on strengthening his defence line ahead of Nigeria’s campaign at the World Cup next year in Russia.

Rohr is still searching for options but this time around an extra central defender who is similar in style to defence mainstay Leon Balogun appears to be the target of the Franco-German coach.

Although Kenneth Omeruo impressed in the game against Argentina which Nigeria won 4-2, Rohr appears not to be keen on him anymore as he is still searching for a fourth defender aside Chidozie Awaziem, William Troost-Ekong and Balogun.

The coach who played the 3-5-2 ‎formation against Argentina on Tuesday in Nigeria’s 4-2 win is still in favour of playing with a back four in his favourite 4-3-3- formation used in Nigeria’s qualifying games.

A central defender with the ability to play from the back is now the target of the coach, who is also looking for a top striker to complement Odion Ighalo in attack in games where he wants to play with a lone striker.

Hilarious Twitter reactions about Akpeyi's poor performance against Argentina:

I have never seen a player more unworthy of the Super Eagles like Daniel Akpeyi. I owe Chigozie Agbim an apology!!!! — Das Padre™ (@D_WarEagle) November 14, 2017

Errrm... Could this be Daniel Akpeyi's memorial match? — Tolu Olasoji (@Tollexrism)

LOL ;DHilarious Twitter reactions about Akpeyi's poor performance against Argentina:

I have never seen a player more unworthy of the Super Eagles like Daniel Akpeyi. I owe Chigozie Agbim an apology!!!! — Das Padre™ (@D_WarEagle) November 14, 2017

Errrm... Could this be Daniel Akpeyi's memorial match? — Tolu Olasoji (@Tollexrism)

LOL

Mujtahida:

We were playing on words. The success I meant I like is 'success' as a human value not necessarily the player.

na so we take dey sabi youth and old men

sontoly:


to compare we shld get there stats and youtube highlights to see who is more efficient n effective.

i still believe paul is more effective.

Okay, I think that's necessary

BascoVanVeli:


I credit Rohr for this because the boy's calming performance against Argentina must have played a role in this recall.

He didn't make match day squad (not listed)

nelszx:


He didn't make match day squad (not listed)

To say the very least I hope they get bashed then.

This FIFA rankings doesn't tell true picture of a team. Cameroon which drew away to Zambia overtakes the Eagles on point but same Nigeria draw away sees us dropping point. Well let's prepare well and let FIFA be ranking their wayo

BascoVanVeli:


To say the very least I hope they get bashed then.

Very hopeful but they are playing a "Benevento team" in the league

sontoly:


to compare we shld get there stats and youtube highlights to see who is more efficient n effective.

i still believe paul is more effective.

Good to have their stats or YouTube but one thing we need to take into consideration is league, how competitive is the league,every player cannot be Shehu Abdullahi.

BascoVanVeli:


To say the very least I hope they get bashed then.

calm down, his time will come and it only depends on how fast he learns spanish

nelszx:
This FIFA rankings doesn't tell true picture of a team. Cameroon which drew away to Zambia overtakes the Eagles on point but same Nigeria draw away sees us dropping point. Well let's prepare well and let FIFA be ranking their wayo

There's no wayo in the ranking dear. How the ranking is done is public knowledge.

Mujtahida:

I have not seen Ryan Sanusi. Oga Kog45, if we continue going for FB players at this rate are you sure a time will come when we Nigerian born foreign based players will cry marginalisation? We have to be careful oo

I believe so much in homegrown players but any FB who is ready to compete should be given chance.

Mujtahida you should know i don't just go for any player until i make a critical look,honestly if the guy is eligible Rohr should just extend invitation.

I want to see Dessers,Sanusi and Onomah in eagles they are pretty good players.

Málaga vs Deportivo La Coruña
Score: 1 - 0
Min: 15

⚽ Goal!!
Málaga

mank1234:


There's no wayo in the ranking dear. How the ranking is done is public knowledge.

But Cameroon drew how does that mean they overtake us on the rankings......I'm not understanding

zopaks:
Málaga vs Deportivo La Coruña
Score: 1 - 0
Min: 15

⚽ Goal!!
Málaga