Gotze1:
Yes now, oba has reward for you on that

Leez:

ur gambari masters beg to differ

PabloAfricanus:
Coming from a pathetic cheerleader who does nothing but troll, ask for sources and links while cheerleading
Coming from the master of copying and pasting links, articles and books in over 12,000 according to you.
Guess who would have been the first to request for sources had I pasted those articles without referencing the authors?

I nearly spilt my tea when reading your pseudo intellectual rants on the thread about the Forbes article about Ojukwu's father and the Rolls Royce saga. And other threads I bother to read where your cheerleading gets in my way.
I could not believe a man would stoop so low to play the chameleon.

You this pathetic chameleon of a cheerleader

TheKingIsHere:


Fake source. Provide a more credible source let's see.

Meanwhile

Gerrarahia

SmartchoiceNGR:
Mr Ajayi you and Bini kingdom are subservient to the crown at Ile-Ife

Habakus:

I seriously find it distasteful how you've been mentioning the revered monarch of Benin flippantly in your comments.
You need to exercise some restraint.

laudate:


Your pasted articles were written by Benin chiefs, not academic scholars with access to historical evidence, using rigorous analytical methods to determine the authenticity of such accounts. One of the writers is Sam Igbe the Iyase of Benin, who is fond of reciting history from a Benin perspective, with little regard for accuracy of events and patterns of migration. If you knew the articles were inherently defective, why were you cutting and pasting it with such relish, as if it was the gospel truth??

using rigorous analytical methods to determine the authenticity of such accounts

Ezigbonmadu:
.....

Leez:

we own ur lands o ye afonja
i know its hard but try to stop wailing

laudate:


Thank you for the translation, o! Unfortunately, my grasp of Yoruba language is minimal, so I wasn't sure about how to proceed with the translations. See as he was just cutting and pasting everything gbururu.... without checking to see which one was fact, which was fiction and which had become a fable. See, a few of these Bini chiefs writing these articles, end up inserting some aspects of folklore into their works, and if you are not very observant, you would not be able to distinguish fact from fiction. Part of it has been influenced by impressions of grandeur of the old Benin royal court and its' empire.

Nobody is disputing the fact that kings were sent from Benin to rule Lagos island. But this was done for the sake of commerce. Those kings did not own lands or property in Lagos at the onset, and they were not there to colonise the people but to give the Bini access to the sea!

Here is one account that captures this aspect:



This view is also supported by a number of scholars. The Benin royal court did not set out to colonise the Yoruba-Awori people, or take over their lands, because they just wanted access to the sea in order to trade.

PabloAfricanus:
Now this is beyond hilarious, are resorting to bombastic statements to drive home a meaningless point?

Do tell, which of the authors or academic scholars known to you or you can provide references here have used rigorous analytical methods to determine the authenticity of such accounts

Did you just write this?
Chief Sam Igbe is now fond of reciting history from a Benin perspective, with little regard for accuracy of events and patterns of migration

Were you not the one defending Edo history, Edo oral accounts, Edo kings and lands in the thread about Gelegele?
How come you did not know the Iyase of Benin and by implication all Edo historians do not use rigorous analytical methods to determine the authenticity of such accounts

So they used rigorous analytical methods to determine the authenticity of such accounts to determine the Ijaws are not indigenous to Gelegele, but did not when presenting an historical paper on Bini history?
And you had to switch sides so quick you just realized they have little regard for accuracy of events and patterns of migration?
Whatever that means in your sill.y mind.

laudate:


You keep chanting the word 'cheerleader,' like a broken record, as if someone stuck it to the tip of your tongue and commanded you to recite it, 100 times each day. Or maybe you were actually a cheerleader in the recent past? Or you had the hots for a certain pretty cheerleader in high school? Tell us, o ! Let us know how to treat your case.

And there was nothing intellectual about my contributions to the debate on the Forbes article. It was just me, giving a few chaps on that thread, a piece of my mind! That thread is several months old, and yet it is still causing you such pain? Was that why you brought it up again, now? Wow!! How nice! If I had known it would leave such a deep impression on your mind, I would have put more effort into posting remarks that would have made you truly unhappy.

Now, your response up here shows that you must have been a comedian in your past life. And maybe a few folks thought your jokes were funny, so they cheered you on. Sorry to burst your bubble - but they lied. Your attempts to be seen as some kind of intellectual or a smart scholar, has fallen flat on its face and made you look too ridiculous for words. You really want people to take you seriously, but sadly your efforts are not working. Go back and conduct some more detailed research on the topics you want to make contributions on, so that people can at least listen to you with some modicum of respect. Until then, try not to feel too pained. But if you still do, well.... who cares?

laudate:

Guy, you allowed that IPOB-Igbo yoot to provoke you into making uncouth remarks about a respected monarch? Haba! You should know their antics by now....

PabloAfricanus:
Trying to hide your silliness under attempts at humor are we?
You have not been able to address the topic, counter any of the points I brought up or contribute to the thread.
So what's your point really
I come upon your silly posts all the time on threads where you do a full time job cheerleading Yoruba forum members.
Your opinion is irrelevant and I am definitely not here to amuse anyone or be amused either.
Your cheerleading is cluttering up this once vibrant forum with irrelevant nonsense and I don't find that amusing too.

So take this this again cheerleader

And this too

macof:
Exactly! Bini had the power to take over Aworiland, they even sacked Iddo at one time but Bini's interest was control of the sea not the land.

So it's complete madness for any bini person to open his mouth or use his fingers to claim any inch of Aworiland belongs to Bini

laudate:

Did Ajayi-Bembe ever say that the Omo n'Oba sent him to make any claims on his behalf? Oga, you can preach this sermon till tomorrow, but the Oba of Benin will not respond. Like I said before, the person who should be responding to Ajayi-Bembe's claims is Akiolu. It is his territory that is in contention.

Frederick2017:



Oga Etiosa is my name and I'm a bini. We know we own Lagos but we just watching the funny land grabbers. When time comes to claim it, na one day e go take us to collect our land. It is a very easy something

Gotze1:
Okay, but buhari has come to tell us we will forever be slave.. Emma powerful

giftq:
Bros, stop taking panadol over this Lagos matter. The elders have spoken

ib0221:
You are funny to use 'ur' , I am not Ilorin indigine but I have had the opportunity of living in the same house with direct grand sons and daughters of Alimi and Afonja. I have stayed in the palace and can say one or two about the place. They are muslims with mixed bloods.

laudate:


Eeyah! You are still wallowing in pain, which is why you feel the need to lash out at someone. What a pity. It appears my comments have the ability to get you so worked up to the point of frothing at the mouth in anger and helplessness. Ndo. Try not to let your frustrations get the better of you. It hurts you that I am not supporting your own people online, is that why you are so upset?? Hmmn? Tell us, o!

Oya, which one of my posts have you gone to do some further research on, so we can discuss it further? You have only mentioned 3 of them so far. There are 11,997 posts left to go! Get to work, boy!!

Leez:

colonized by d gambaris

Malawian:

You should be grateful to the igbos that we left Ile ife to you, go and read your moremi history.

laudate:

See this one - you are still quoting the same Ajayi-Bembe whose family has exposed his ancestral identity, by declaring clearly that their family (including him) have absolutely no links with Benin? When will you receive sense, biko?

PabloAfricanus:
Me getting worked up over a pathetic cheerleader's antics? WTF
I'm saying get out of my way you i.diat!
I'm just doing my civic duties getting this once vibrant forum sanitized of daft chameleons and ignorant cheerleaders
Why egging Yorubas on against Igbos all the time?
You muddle up the discussion with irrelevant cheerleading nansense, and you are ALWAYS to be found on ALL Igbo threads.
I see you all over the place, doing just one thing, pathetic cheerleading.
I would not have even bothered replying you if it was just that, apparently Igbo vs Yoruba threads drive traffic for Seun.

But playing the chameleon on this Edo thread, naaaaa that was cheerleading taken too far.

Seeing as no one has taken it on themselves to correct you and call you to order.
Even the Yoruba posters you tag along their trail and call for backup all the time should be tired of you by now

Here I am helping out, as concerned citizen.
Oya take am once again

Now go and stop cheerleading ok?

Afflalo:
Any Flat Head Ibo Saying Lagos State Belong 2 Binni Z Lyk Saying Anambra State Belong 2 D Igalas

remsonik:

Their ancestry is not Benin. Before Ado came there were white cap chiefs ruling families.

FisifunKododada:


Then you are not giving the Oba good advice. If someone goes to the market and uses your name to buy credit without your permission. Then your silence is seen as accepting the debt.

sophoccles:


That old man is not ashamed to spew a lot of rubbish on national media just because of politics. He is an "agba-iya". He said he is Bini, he said he is also Awori.But even a child knows that Awori & Bini are never the same.

Nobody is disputing the fact that the Bini once maintained a military garrison on Lagos Island at the height of their powers, which is why the "Eleko" did not and should not wear a crown, he was never from any royal lineage, he was simply a war chief, a garrison commander.

If Bini actually settled Lagos the so called indigenes (including the garrulous Chief Ajayi-Bembe) would actually bear Bini names. But they eventually withdrew, leaving the land for the aboriginal inhabitants - the Awori. It's the same way you see relics of Roman civilization/administration in parts of Britain today. Do we now say the Romans own Britain?