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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 6:35am On Nov 20, 2017 |
Napoleon55:Joel Obi walks into our first 11 if fit. Only Mikel is better when in form. If Etebo, Ogu, Onazi, etc are making our team, then there's no way in the world a fit Joel Obi doesn't make it. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by sontoly: 7:18am On Nov 20, 2017 |
edi287: joel obi case is different, i wont like him to go to worldcup he is injury prone, he shld try and see how to fix his injury cases, i dont know how arjen robbin turned from injury prone to iron man, let Joel obi learn what he did. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 7:21am On Nov 20, 2017 |
forgiveness: In my village abi? We are not talking about Aguero and Messi. We are talking about all the names u mentioned in England. Here u are resorting to punches below the belt. Advance ur reasons when discussing. Be a man and stop whining for once. I will not resort to digs. Trust me i can but I wont. Bottom line is England is not and can never be the all and end all of football. Period! 9 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 7:24am On Nov 20, 2017 |
MetalJigsaw:both of them are second tier sides Both of them moved up and one is constantly doing it and the other isn't So what's your argument 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:31am On Nov 20, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 7:47am On Nov 20, 2017 |
Bro the word they aren't "good" enough is a wrong word when it comes to experience. They are good enough to be a FIFA ref but first come is being used to pick. Let's look at it from another angel. Is Idowu not good enough for the LB even though Echiejile has experience and older than Idowu both in age and in football experience? Joebie: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 7:47am On Nov 20, 2017 |
Thanks for the info Dedebanky85: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 7:50am On Nov 20, 2017 |
Don't count by name, rather by the country they represent. Counting by name will get you confused in this age and time because a Moses Simon by name can be equated to being an American or Australian not knowing he's darker than a typical African and he's from Nigeria lol. junnyjake: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:51am On Nov 20, 2017 |
edi287:Pls give little respect to Onazi, Ogu and Etebo, truly Joel Obi is a good footballer who injuries has not help his career. I remember Keshi gave him a call prior to WC if am correct but failed to impress.Good he is picking up but i can assured you Joel Obi w not walk straight into Eagles starting eleven. I don't understand what you mean by in form Mikel only better Joel Obi.Let me tell you basic fact it w take a very hard working Joel Obi to bench average Mikel talk less of in form Mikel. Pls go and watch Mikel recent games for Eagles and you w know the shoe is big for Joel Obi,no offence. Eagles have evolved in a special way for just any player to have the confidence that he w walk in straight.Joel Obi have Onazi, Ogu first to contend with and it w not be easy. Truly Joel Obi is good but the hype is too much,let see him again then w decide but telling us Onazi,Ogu,Etebo and others are not match is like downgrading the eagles. We just need to give ve respect to present eagles especially the players for making us proud of the team again cos your analysis on Joel Obi look like the team is average for players like Onazi, Ogu,Etebo to make the team. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by sontoly: 7:58am On Nov 20, 2017 |
I am going to post a link for youtube video of cyriel desser and paul onuachu and make some comparisons. cyriel dessers: m.youtube.com/watch?v=ds0avkqWCOU m.youtube.com/watch?v=3B_k3Q6g9o4 paul onuachu: m.youtube.com/watch?v=DkC5bh4Yr7k m.youtube.com/watch?v=DkC5bh4Yr7k download using : http://en.savefrom.net 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by sontoly: 8:16am On Nov 20, 2017 |
cyriel dessers: 17/18 season eredivisie appearance 11 minutes played 694 min per goal 139 goals: 5 goals assist: 1 assist europa qualifiers appearance 5 minutes 403 min per goal 403 goals : 1 assist : 1 KNVB BEKER appearance 2 minutes 135 min per goal 68 goals : 2 assist : 1 totall this season appearance 18 minutes 1232 min per goal 154 goals : 8 assist: 3 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:25am On Nov 20, 2017 |
Humility017: Tried for 40 minutes where? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by sontoly: 8:25am On Nov 20, 2017 |
PAUL ONUACHU 17/18 season Superligaen appearance : 12 Goals : 8 Assists : 3 goals per min : 104 minutes played :833 Europa League Qualifiers appearance : 6 goals: 4 Assists: 2 min per goal: 116 minutes 462 DBU Landspokal appearance 2 goals : 3 assist 1 mins per goal :50 mins 150 Total appearance: 20 Goals : 15 Assist : 6 min per goal : 96 mins 1,445 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:32am On Nov 20, 2017 |
sontoly: Remember that he plays on the left side of the attack for this club and that he was a cf last year when he had those monster numbers though in division 2. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Loogan(m): 8:41am On Nov 20, 2017 |
sontoly:Paul onuachu with this super form is the best target man the SE can boast of, would love to see him in a much higher league, transfer imminent after this season. still so young |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by sontoly: 8:44am On Nov 20, 2017 |
CYRIEL DESSERS **** very good with both foot ** average with aerial balls *** good with footworks ***good in accuracy **** very good speed *** good in positioning *** good in teamwork cos of assists **** very good physicality **** very good awareness PAUL ONUACHU **** very good with both foot ***** excellent on aerial balls *** good with footworks *** good accuracy *** good speed *** positioning good **** very good team player. ** average physicality **** very good awareness 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by sontoly: 8:46am On Nov 20, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli: this stats is for this season alone, he plays predominantly as a CF but lesser as LWF |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by sontoly: 8:54am On Nov 20, 2017 |
My conclusions: Pros: cyriel desser will be a like for like, or even better replacement for Odion Igalo, he has same characteristics with him and good physicality that is suitable for african footballs, he has good awareness and nice positioning skills, carries hot shots on both feet, has a good footwork required of a striker. He will give Ighalo a run for his money. cons: Cyriel desser struggles with aeriel balls, may waste a couple of chances cos of unnecessary wayward shots, has contributed lesser assists and doesnt often help with buildup plays. PAUL ONUACHU Pros: paul is excellent with aeriel balls because of his height, has a good speed cos of his longer legs, he has a nice footworks considering his stature, may add something similar to Agali or even better. Paul has a good sense of awareness and good positioning skills, he has contributed to so many goals this season apart from scoring making him a good teamplayer, he also contributes to buildup play which makes him fall a bit deeper to the midfield most times. He will be a good asset to the super eagles. Cons: He often get tangled while trying to dribble an opponent, he needs to do better on footworks, his physicality may not be suitable for playing african opponents. His shots mostly are not weighty and needs to add more power to his shots. Final conclusion: having both in the team will be nice, but probably overcrowded, its left for the coaching staff n scouts to decide. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:54am On Nov 20, 2017 |
forgiveness:Yea is a question that has no answer. I watched Ryan Sanusi and i asked is he a Nigerian,got replied YES then why not invitation? too many players in the midfield,OK,why Nwakili invited?if we have too many midfielders. I realised some make case for players they love to see in the Eagles not on performance and very few make genuine case. Truly nobody expected Nwakili invitation prior to Algeria match and i see some shouted corruption and some said he justified the call up,some said his invitation was possible may be Rohr scouts must have seen him but the big question does he deserved the invitation. Watching Algeria and Argentina he was nowhere to be found and report from camp said he failed to impress which i cannot verify. After Algeria and Argentina i came into conclusion that Nwakili invitation came from a strong recommendation not from Rohr cos he was not under Rohr radar. Paul Onuachu,Samuel Adegbenro are doing well in Scandinavia leagues why suddenly Nwakili.Some bring out stats to justify his invitation but just too glaring he did not deserve it. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 8:56am On Nov 20, 2017 |
sontoly:i will like to see these two feature for SE. I don't like kayode's style of play. Always running like a headless chicken with no known quality 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:58am On Nov 20, 2017 |
Mujtahida: I understood all he said but his analogies are flowed and I have to address them. We know we are still in the rebuilding process hence the need to bring in new players and see what they got to offer. I am not saying we should change the whole first eleven but integrate better quality options for the first 11 which I think is lagging on the bench. Therefore, it is a necessary exercise to embark on. Out of the players you listed, are you telling me Kayode invitation is not justifiable? Is this not the same Kayode some folks here mocked because Onyekuru was bought buy Everton? They told us Onyekuru is better than Kayode because his talent was noticed by bigger clubs in Europe and eventually bought by Everton but shut their mouth when they saw Man City bought Kayode and even moved to a better league than Belgium pro league. So, stop counting him among brand new players because Onyekuru is an epitome of brand new player. However, out of those players you listed Onomah, Kayode, Ajagun and Ilori are the only players I vigorously campaigned to be added to the team because we don't have better options. Beside these players, Joel Obi, Sone Aluko and Obafemi Martins are the players who can add qualities to the team. Abi, you wan compare Nwakali with Joel Obi, Onyekuru with Sone Aluko and Nwakaeme with Obagoal? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 8:58am On Nov 20, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:05am On Nov 20, 2017 |
safarigirl: and after all these insults you reeled out what have you achieved? Saying someone has a pea-sized mind is nothing short of ridiculous when you have not achieved what they have, I mean let's get rid of these insults please 9 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:06am On Nov 20, 2017 |
zuchyblink:Haba running like endless chicken meaning Guardiola must be mad for signing him. Pls try to be civic in your words(headless chicken) not good enough I watched him against Deportivo quite good and promising. Good I want Onuachu and Dessers in eagles cos their stats saying it all but left for them to convince Rohr. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by sontoly: 9:09am On Nov 20, 2017 |
zuchyblink: To be honest this two is performing better than kayode, but the leagues they play in cannot be compared to the one kayode plays thats the reason. cyriel even plays in a tougher league compared to paul denmark which is less competitive, may be thats why the stats is in favor of him, he needs to move to a tougher league to be considered. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:21am On Nov 20, 2017 |
Kog45: If I say Messi will walk into our first XI it is not a disrespectful statement to anyone, it is just what it is. If Joel Obi is invited Ndidi, Etebo, Onazi, Ogu and anyother backwater midfielder we invite will have to either contest for the DMF role(i favour Ndidi here) or sit on the bench for Joel, it's so simple. Meanwhile Joel Obi has always performed in the GWG, it isn't hype at all, just the fact. 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:21am On Nov 20, 2017 |
Mickael2:Oh boy where u come go 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:27am On Nov 20, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:29am On Nov 20, 2017 |
Mickael2:My man you said Messi but here we are talking of Joel Obi. I remember the same Joel Obi failed to make the cut when invited by Keshi prior to WC. I respect him as a player and even agitating for his recall.I watched him yesterday with what i saw he cannot walk straight into eagles first eleven. That's my opinion and i stand by it. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:32am On Nov 20, 2017 |
forgiveness I understood all he said but his analogies are flowed and I have to address them. I agree with your points. We sure need better players particularly in the defence, midfield and attack. But it has to be gradual or at a good pace. It cannot be rushed and seven months to the world cup the emphasis should be on blending what we have. The search and integration of quality players will continue after the WC. For now apart from the gk we need at most four new quality players. Out of the players you listed, are you telling me Kayode invitation is not justifiable?If you read my posts you'd see that I've advocated that Kayode should replace Nwakaeme. I'd love for both Onyekuru and Kayode to make it to Russia. It's not about comparing both of them. I know our current set up will suit both players cos we play swift attacking and counter attacking football. However, out of those players you listed Onomah, Kayode, Ajagun and Ilori are the only players I vigorously campaigned to be added to the team because we don't have better options.I am happy Nwakali was given an opportunity. Latest reports say Rohr wasn't impressed. That's one less player to worry about for the time being. At one time or the other a fair share of Nigerian players doing well would get called up. At least that's the trend so far. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 9:38am On Nov 20, 2017 |
Kog45:I respect them, but Joel Obi is simply more talented. I'm not downgrading anyone but truth is a fit and in form Joel Obi CAN break into our first 11. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by sontoly: 9:40am On Nov 20, 2017 |
forgiveness: Guy, abeg dont compare onyekuru with aluko cos he is far better than him, kayode chances at playing for city is so slim infact it is nearly impossible cos i dont want to be so pessimistic say impossible. one he is not even starting for girona and havent even scored a single goal this season just had one an assist, tell me how he is going to make it to city bench its practically impossible, onekuru has been clocking 90 mins and scoring goals, i dont know why he wont play first team for everton nxt season his chances are practically possible, its obvious you dont see it that way. Nwakali C i dont even fancy him playing for the eagles, what i observe about rohr is that he like choking d midfield even though he knows they wont play, like agbo for example he is good as a DM for his club but cant sits on bench constantly for the eagles, that slot may as well be used to invite a stiker. Nwakaeme is not better than Martins but I guess age is the issue we have now, we dont like to invite old players again infact rohr wont fancy inviting him so lets move ahead. 1 Like |
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