Taliban:


Good observation and comment!!!!! But can you qualify the 'We' in your comments, who are you speaking for sir because it seems you always speak for yourself as a one man army. So I will adjust that you clarify and say 'I need Obafemi, Joel Obi and Sone Aluko' I for one don't believe we need them and from several people's comments here, it doesn't seem like they need them too.

mumemma:
Na so una hype Aina o....say d guy dey ball for Championship.....I nor see wetin e don play for our 2 games o.....

Na Ebuehi dem gve just 45mins and we know wat he can do....

komekn:


I have this conviction all things being equal no matter the challenges quality will eventually shine. If you are doing well no matter the league you will move upwards. Ndid did it from nothing to everything.

No help required.

I knew Pogba at United but his senior brother more who was at Crewe in England more as well as his twin in France. Pogba was the undoubtedly stand out player in the academy no contest. The academy coaches took him out with a bad report to Fergie, Well he left and went to Juventus and the rest is now as we say history. Best Midfielder in the world.

He does not merit a call up its simple no justification beyond personal preference.

Mujtahida:
How do I download this? I can't see the download option on my chrome browser Cc Joebie

komekn:



Wisdom is the application of Knowledge. Making an informed decision is making it from a stand point of corroborated, proven information and facts.


Your position is it emotive sentiment or objective measurement if it is the former then its prejudiced as it not underpinned by anything but feeling from the self.

Is OBAGOAL and UCHE better than what we have i do not know, the chines league is rated around 11/12 by the bleacher report its not a dead league as such possibly new in the general scheme of things yes.

Statistically speaking Forgiveness has so kindly brought out statistics to show he is better than IGHALO. This can not be denied, the players in contention have not achieved half of what these tried and tested strikers have done. So whats the problem. Danny Alves , IBrahomivic, Defoe, Robben, are top class players olde than Obagoal and Uche.

if we go back how old was Roger Milla when he broight sunshine, flair and incredible goals to the 1990 World cup young is not commensurate with better or best

Loogan:

Paul onuachu with this super form is the best target man the SE can boast of, would love to see him in a much higher league, transfer imminent after this season. still so young

sontoly:
My conclusions:

Pros:

cyriel desser will be a like for like, or even better replacement for Odion Igalo, he has same characteristics with him and good physicality that is suitable for african footballs, he has good awareness and nice positioning skills, carries hot shots on both feet, has a good footwork required of a striker. He will give Ighalo a run for his money.

cons:

Cyriel desser struggles with aeriel balls, may waste a couple of chances cos of unnecessary wayward shots, has contributed lesser assists and doesnt often help with buildup plays.



PAUL ONUACHU

Pros:

paul is excellent with aeriel balls because of his height, has a good speed cos of his longer legs, he has a nice footworks considering his stature, may add something similar to Agali or even better.

Paul has a good sense of awareness and good positioning skills, he has contributed to so many goals this season apart from scoring making him a good teamplayer, he also contributes to buildup play which makes him fall a bit deeper to the midfield most times. He will be a good asset to the super eagles.


Cons:

He often get tangled while trying to dribble an opponent, he needs to do better on footworks, his physicality may not be suitable for playing african opponents. His shots mostly are not weighty and needs to add more power to his shots.

Final conclusion:

having both in the team will be nice, but probably overcrowded, its left for the coaching staff n scouts to decide.

Mujtahida:
Kog45 please can you help me with the clubs our nations cup and USA 94 team players were playing?
Amunike -Zamalek of Egypt
Rashidi Victoria Setubal of Portugal
Keshi Strasbourg of France
Siasia Nantes of France
Finidi Ajax Holland
Okocha Frankfurt Germany
Amokachi Club Brugge Belgium
Mike Emenalo Nolvermphton England
Ben Iroha Vitesse Arnhem
Austin Eguavoen Kortickj Belgium
Uche Okechukwu Bronby Denmark
Uche Okafor Moleenbeek Belgium
Sunday Oliseh Leige Belgium
Sunday Oliha African sport cote d voire
Nduka Ugbade Castellilla/unattached
Peter Rufai Go Ahead Eagles Holland
Alloy Agu Mvv Maastricht Holland
Mutiu Adepoju Racing satander
Wifred Agbonavbare Rayo Vallecano
Emeka Ezeugu Lyngh Denmark
Chidi Nwanu Anderlecht Belgium
Victor Ikpeba RC leige/Monaco
Efan Ekoku Norwich England
Etc

Mickael2:


and after all these insults you reeled out what have you achieved? Saying someone has a pea-sized mind is nothing short of ridiculous when you have not achieved what they have, I mean let's get rid of these insults please

Taliban:


I may not be 100% correct but I should be close to 90%. Emenalo was in one championship or league 1 team. Nwanu was in anderlecht. Surprisingly sabe for finidi two guys playing in the biggest leagues were helping to keep the bench from being blown by the wind. Ikpeba Monaco, ekoku, Wimbledon and mutiu adepoju racing santander, spain

Kog45:
Hope u are OK though stand to be corrected

Amunike -Zamalek of Egypt
Rashidi Victoria Setubal of Portugal
Keshi Unattached
Siasia Nantes of France
Finidi Ajax Holland
Okocha Frankfurt Germany
Amokachi Club Brugge Belgium
Mike Emenalo Nolvermphton England
Ben Iroha Vitesse Arhnem Holland
Austin Eguavoen Kortickj Belgium
Uche Okechukwu Bronby Denmark
Uche Okafor Moleenbeek Belgium
Sunday Oliseh Leige Belgium
Sunday Oliha African sport cote d voire
Nduka Ugbade Castellilla/unattached
Peter Rufai Unattached (was fired from Go Ahead Eagles after CAN 94)
Alloy Agu Mvv Maastricht Holland
Mutiu Adepoju Racing Santander Spain
Wifred Agbonavbare Rayo Valecano Spain
Emeka Ezeugu Lyngh Denmark
Chidi Nwanu Anderlecht Belgium
Victor Ikpeba RC leige/Monaco
Efan Ekoku Norwich England

junnyjake:



Are these not all American countries?? 12 of them?

Except for the first name there I didn't quite get his name.

sontoly:
My conclusions:

Pros:

cyriel desser will be a like for like, or even better replacement for Odion Igalo, he has same characteristics with him and good physicality that is suitable for african footballs, he has good awareness and nice positioning skills, carries hot shots on both feet, has a good footwork required of a striker. He will give Ighalo a run for his money.

cons:

Cyriel desser struggles with aeriel balls, may waste a couple of chances cos of unnecessary wayward shots, has contributed lesser assists and doesnt often help with buildup plays.



PAUL ONUACHU

Pros:

paul is excellent with aeriel balls because of his height, has a good speed cos of his longer legs, he has a nice footworks considering his stature, may add something similar to Agali or even better.

Paul has a good sense of awareness and good positioning skills, he has contributed to so many goals this season apart from scoring making him a good teamplayer, he also contributes to buildup play which makes him fall a bit deeper to the midfield most times. He will be a good asset to the super eagles.


Cons:

He often get tangled while trying to dribble an opponent, he needs to do better on footworks, his physicality may not be suitable for playing african opponents. His shots mostly are not weighty and needs to add more power to his shots.

Final conclusion:

having both in the team will be nice, but probably overcrowded, its left for the coaching staff n scouts to decide.

Mujtahida:

You project alot. You are as guilty of prejudice as those you accuse. But you are so steeped in your prejudice that you think your own view is all that there is and that's why you are shocked when people see things from other perspectives and the only way for you to cope is to label them 'emotive negative prejudice'. And when you have deflected attention to others, you tuck in safely behind your own prejudices and continue your song.


Na so. Let the Coaches invite him. If he performs, good for him. Tell me - how many players from the much vaunted 94 set played first team football in the best teams in the best leagues? Where were Amokachi, Rashidi, Siasia, Keshi, Ugbade, Amunike, Iroha etc playing then?

Please tell me where the leagues in south America apart from Brazil rank? Yet south American countries routinely feature players from their league.
I don't give a hoot where a player plays. I'm prejudiced against our home based players but if an home based player is invited and he performs then good for him.
Dessers is not in the second division. He's in the Eredevisie. Are you not the one who a while ago was saying that Nigeria must not wait for England to discover players for us? That doesn't matter so long as it is England. But if it's outside England we have to wait for the player to be bought by Real Madrid before we know he's quality.

EPL, championship and league one- are these not where you were headed to since? I've said it and repeat it again- until our team is populated from 1-23 by UK league players you won't rest. Look at the disdain with which you talk about the Dutch and Belgian league. You are guilty of negative emotive prejudice.
The bolded is not an ancient, unchanging law of the Medes and Persians. At best it's just a guide and it should be a very, very flexible one at that.


The exceptions are why you cannot make an absolute criteria which players must pass. Ebuehi's performance was good. Not the best but he's shown great potential, to have played in such a way that even the foreign press took note is no mean feat. But before then and even now you spat on him, Shehu and others from leagues outside of your beloved EPL and Championship even league one. If it were Aina that performed as good as Ebuehi you for no let us rest because even before his two outings for us you no let us rest. don't think I don't like Aina. I do and I've defended him against those who want to put him down but you are negatively emotively, subjectively prejudiced against Ebuehi and others of his ilk. You use one measure for Aina and another for Ebuehi. Aina is in the Championship, Ebuehi is in the Eredevisie. Who is on a higher level? I know you will say that the English championship is higher than the Eredevisie which is ranked 12th. All that doesn't cut it. Come and perform. That's all.
Read what Toyin ibitoye NFF press officer said

Kog45:
Respect my man u try

sontoly:
My conclusions:

Pros:

cyriel desser will be a like for like, or even better replacement for Odion Igalo, he has same characteristics with him and good physicality that is suitable for african footballs, he has good awareness and nice positioning skills, carries hot shots on both feet, has a good footwork required of a striker. He will give Ighalo a run for his money.

cons:

Cyriel desser struggles with aeriel balls, may waste a couple of chances cos of unnecessary wayward shots, has contributed lesser assists and doesnt often help with buildup plays.



PAUL ONUACHU

Pros:

paul is excellent with aeriel balls because of his height, has a good speed cos of his longer legs, he has a nice footworks considering his stature, may add something similar to Agali or even better.

Paul has a good sense of awareness and good positioning skills, he has contributed to so many goals this season apart from scoring making him a good teamplayer, he also contributes to buildup play which makes him fall a bit deeper to the midfield most times. He will be a good asset to the super eagles.


Cons:

He often get tangled while trying to dribble an opponent, he needs to do better on footworks, his physicality may not be suitable for playing african opponents. His shots mostly are not weighty and needs to add more power to his shots.

Final conclusion:

having both in the team will be nice, but probably overcrowded, its left for the coaching staff n scouts to decide.

tglobal:
Kog45 I made some edits in . Dont think Agbonavbare ever played for Deportivo. I know Rufai was, though in 1998

safarigirl:
it is an opinion everyone is entitled to.

Your idea of achievements is objective my brother, how can I achieve what they have when we are not even in similar fields? Have they achieved what I have? Or you think I am not doing anything with my life because I don't come here to reel out names of footballers I have met? Or because I don't roll with NFF big shots? Is that your idea of achievement? Has Obasanjo achieved what Fela achieved? That is how ridiculous your comparison is

If you think it is insults, that is objective as well. It is facts to me.

After all, you never ask anyone of them what they have achieved whenever they attack our players.... Oh wait, you are one of those who calls players headless chickens

You're one to talk.

komekn:


That is not the position.

There was a certain Cleverly who's father was a coach at united and there was contention, you can fill in the rest can not say more than that. Adverse reports were given to Fergie and Pogba painted in a bad light , remember Pogba as outstanding as he was, was not getting commensurate game time.

Loogan:
Another player who I'm suprised has not been getting a call in is kelechi nwakali, this guy is the closest thing to mikel as an AMF in the sense that he brings that unparalleled vision, class and a bit of defensive contribution, his age is not a problem because he plays with an old head on his shoulders, and very confident.
He's in the Dutch league in his second year as a pro and is getting game time this guy at this point should be introduced, if his senior brother got a call he deserves one to.
It would be nice he makes this World Cup because in about two years he should be a class act especially with his current progress, also his skill set is something we sorely need.

forgiveness:


You be God wey go decide where Kayode go play for future?

How do you know Onyekuru will work into Everton's first eleven?

Age should not be the determinant factor rather Performance should be.

safarigirl:
it is an opinion everyone is entitled to.

Your idea of achievements is objective my brother, how can I achieve what they have when we are not even in similar fields? Have they achieved what I have? Or you think I am not doing anything with my life because I don't come here to reel out names of footballers I have met? Or because I don't roll with NFF big shots? Is that your idea of achievement? Has Obasanjo achieved what Fela achieved? That is how ridiculous your comparison is

If you think it is insults, that is objective as well. It is facts to me.

After all, you never ask anyone of them what they have achieved whenever they attack our players.... Oh wait, you are one of those who calls players headless chickens

You're one to talk.

korlahwarleh:
I just remembered the Egyptian team that won the nations cup thrice between 2006 - 2010. I heard most of them were playing in the premiership then. Na true?

safarigirl:


Mickael2, come and flog me for saying the fact about your ogas because they have achieved more than you in life

Taliban:


I may not be 100% correct but I should be close to 90%. Emenalo was in one championship or league 1 team. Nwanu was in anderlecht. Surprisingly sabe for finidi two guys playing in the biggest leagues were helping to keep the bench from being blown by the wind. Ikpeba Monaco, ekoku, Wimbledon and mutiu adepoju racing santander, spain

Taliban:


Safariangel!!! To be honest your contribution on this thread is, was and has been phenomenal!!!! I wish I had sisters who love football and the GWG like you so much do.

Kog45:
Hope u are OK though stand to be corrected.It seems Agbonavbare was with Rayo Vallecano then and Iroha with Vitesse Arhem.

somehow:
The names are from different countries and different continents.

South America is a continent
North America is also a continent.

To FIFA, Central America stands alone too.

Loogan:
Another player who I'm suprised has not been getting a call in is kelechi nwakali, this guy is the closest thing to mikel as an AMF in the sense that he brings that unparalleled vision, class and a bit of defensive contribution, his age is not a problem because he plays with an old head on his shoulders, and very confident.
He's in the Dutch league in his second year as a pro and is getting game time this guy at this point should be introduced, if his senior brother got a call he deserves one to.
It would be nice he makes this World Cup because in about two years he should be a class act especially with his current progress, also his skill set is something we sorely need.