Icon79:
I know you meant well but, abeg, slow your rolls with all these complimentary

Having said that, I put safarigirl next to Rebecca Lowe ... those two ladies challenge me tremendously with their understanding and analysis of the game.


O pari

elyte89:
All did Paul ohaunuchu and co abi wetin b d name,



I c dem as big fish in a small river


Once d big fish is transferred into a big river,dey become a small fish




Let dem go to a competitive league 1st and c if dey would even make bench let alone of making d starting line up week in week out,kayode is a perfect example, we re still watching though


I won't b bamboozled any way.

safarigirl:
it is an opinion everyone is entitled to.

Your idea of achievements is objective my brother, how can I achieve what they have when we are not even in similar fields? Have they achieved what I have? Or you think I am not doing anything with my life because I don't come here to reel out names of footballers I have met? Or because I don't roll with NFF big shots? Is that your idea of achievement? Has Obasanjo achieved what Fela achieved? That is how ridiculous your comparison is

If you think it is insults, that is objective as well. It is facts to me.

After all, you never ask anyone of them what they have achieved whenever they attack our players.... Oh wait, you are one of those who calls players headless chickens

You're one to talk.

korlahwarleh:
I just remembered the Egyptian team that won the nations cup thrice between 2006 - 2010. I heard most of them were playing in the premiership then. Na true?

Danielnino00:





Bro,can we save these kind of players for the future??

I mean there will still be a super eagles team after 2018 na..

We have many good players scattered across the world,but right now only 23 of them are heading to Russia.. the rest should keep doing their thing well and wait till after the world cup..

I'm very certain that the likes of the Nwakali brothers,Taiwo Awoniyi,Osimhen,Musa Muhammad, Dessrrs etc have a future with the super eagles...

safarigirl:
Thank you for this.

This is the best post i have read here in a while. We are all sentimental in our own way on this thread, but there is nothing more disgusting than hypocrisy.

It is repulsive that someone will seat on his high horse and declare players fit and unfit for the Super Eagles just because he has some limited level of knowledge and then a few people here will worship such an opinion

Mickael2, come and flog me for saying the fact about your ogas because they have achieved more than you in life

Taliban:


Sir Icon79!!!! I get the message clearly, how can I, an ordinary me follow you drag ....., I dare not!!!!!! Sir Icon79, no manifesto, no campaign, unopposed to woole straight!!!!!! Don't mind me am an Adedibu boy and mouth too plenty!!!!

I enjoyed the Walmart response, hope you laughed out loud for the oyinbo to hear

Which city are you in again, I dey that place where Kyrie Irving pulled the Neymar stunt.

Jah bless us all!!!!

Mujtahida:

Thank you Sir Kog45. So komekn do you see? In those days the Serie A was the best league in the world yet not one, I repeat not one of the 94 set was playing there. Even in leagues like Belgium regular starters for the Eagles such as Siasia were bench warmers.
imagine Amunike from Zamalek in Egypt, Oliha from a club in cote Divore. Rashidi wasn't even at Porto or Sporting Lisbon. What club is Wolverhampton? What was their pedigree then? Yet we had a player from that club.

So please this your criteria is good no doubt but you cannot make it a law as I feel you make it to be.

junnyjake:



You this man, why you got to be so pessimistic? so full of negative energy.


Since I've noticed your moniker on this thread, You've never recommended any player on this thread, all you do is wait for someone to do then rush to talk down those players.

I'm forced to ask, what's your play

Kog45:
Good, Keshi went to WC attached if I can remember he left Anderlecht 91/92 moved to Strasbourg 92/93 when the club was in second division and played for the club when they got promotion to elite league,I can remember he had a very serious knee injury.

Yea Agbonavbare was with Rayo Vallecano i can recollect now but it seems he played for Deportivo too.

Yea Rufai once played for Deportivo always on the bench for Jacques Songo of Cameroon.Prior to WC he was on the stable of Go Ahead Eagles,though i remember he had issue.After WC he moved to Farense in Portugal.

Yea Ben Iroha Vitesse Arhem,initially thought Utrecht or NAC Breda.

Good old days that guys sat glue to TV watching Segun Odegbami live from Papendal and Dudu Orumen football show

Icon79:
Correct guy!!!

Oh, are you in the Land or B-town? You brother still tanda for DC dey compete for the right of way wiv Trump


O pari

korlahwarleh:
I just remembered the Egyptian team that won the nations cup thrice between 2006 - 2010. I heard most of them were playing in the premiership then. Na true?

Taliban:


The land of the 'Browns" . Lol at Mr. Golden showers!!

Jah bless us all.

Taliban:


Chairman, the spirit of your argument is spot on. Just to set the records clear and further buttress your points. We had two players in the La Liga
Wifred Agbonibasket (Rayo Vallecano) and Mutiu Adepoju (Racing Santander), we even had one player in a top 3 team in 1993 EPL season (Norwich) Efan Ekoku and we didn't take players like John Salako and Chris Armstrong who were also in the EPL at that time. Mike Obiku and Richard Owubokiri (Boavista, Portugal) wasn't even considered. Back to the matter, the players in the La Liga and EPL were not even part of the first 11 and yet this team was rated as No 5 in the world and the most entertaining team (if am not mistaken) at the US 94 world cup.

junnyjake:



You this man, why you got to be so pessimistic? so full of negative energy.


Since I've noticed your moniker on this thread, You've never recommended any player on this thread, all you do is wait for someone to do then rush to talk down those players.

I'm forced to ask, what's your play

Mujtahida:
Kog45 Finidi wasn't even at Ajax when he broke into the super eagles abi. He was at Calabar rovers
Taliban help

Taliban:


Absolutely correct!!!! His first match was against Burkina Faso in lagos, he was still home based, playing for Sharks if I recall well, he terrorized my darling sooting stars then before he left for Ajax and he made the team to the 1992 nations cup. If not for village arrow to Mosis Kpakor, he probably would have been at the world cup, he got injured in his 'farewell' game for BCC lions on his way to PSV. Abedi Pele played against him in one of the Nations cup qualifiers and was like where did he come from.

I once told the story of the Nigeria 1990 nations cup team where our foreign based players for some reasons weren't available to feature for us. Westerhoff then took largely untested home based players, the likes of

Uche Ukechukwu
Alloy Agu
Ben Iroha
Daniel Amokachi
Friday Elahor
Mosis Kpakpor with a few experienced African based Yekini, Nigerian based Ayo Ogunlana, Andrew Uwe, Ademola Adesina (had to stop playing for the local boy Friday Elahor), Baldwin Bazuaye, Toyin Ayinla, Herbert Anijekwu etc)

They got trashed seriously in the opening game 5-1, but these guys got all the way to the final and were unlucky to lose (1-0) in the final to the Rabah Madger inspired Algerian team who were also the hosts.

I strongly believe that the club you play for is not an ABSOLUTE!!!! History they say is the best predictor of the future!!!

kennysville:




Help me ask him O! Ask him very well sef.

Mujtahida:
Kog45 Finidi wasn't even at Ajax when he broke into the super eagles abi. He was at Calabar rovers
Taliban help

MetalJigsaw:
I wonder o. Nacho is our most potential AM after Mikel.

Kog45:
Yes Finidi was home based player,made his debut as a substitute for fumbling Eguavoen against Burkina Faso in the first half and made Yekini to score 4 goals in that match.I remember eagles track suit trousers needed to be cut cos the shorts were left behind in the hotel.

Finidi a home based shut the door on Tijani Babangida who was already a professional with Roda JC.

Amuneke was with Zamalek and Ikpeba find it difficult to break into XI

Richard Owubokiri a great striker and one of the best in Europe couldn't make Eagles

The same thing Mike Obiku of Feyenord despite his goal scoring find it difficult to displace the likes of Siasia, Amokachie to talk of big goon Yekini.

Chris Ohenhen a solid striker with Compostela in LA liga but couldn't make the team.

TheGoodJoe:


The bolded is funny when I think of the contributions of the likes of David Silva, De Bruyne, Fernandinho, Toni Kroos, Luka Modric etc. There is no way Pogba is close to the best midfielder in the World.

Mujtahida:

You have made my case.
Cc komekn

komekn:


It is essentially a matter of preference.

Firstly, he is the most expensive midfielder in the World no argument. Then we can move to attributes, who is the best box to box midfielder in the World. My opinion is Pogba.

The players you mention have outstanding attributes suitable to particular system and style that is very technically astute.

Pogba is the new model of Yaya Toure for me can do everything.

Taliban:


Absolutely correct!!!! His first match was against Burkina Faso in lagos, he was still home based, playing for Sharks if I recall well, he terrorized my darling sooting stars then before he left for Ajax and he made the team to the 1992 nations cup. If not for village arrow to Mosis Kpakor, he probably would have been at the world cup, he got injured in his 'farewell' game for BCC lions on his way to PSV. Abedi Pele played against him in one of the Nations cup qualifiers and was like where did he come from.

I once told the story of the Nigeria 1990 nations cup team where our foreign based players for some reasons weren't available to feature for us. Westerhoff then took largely untested home based players, the likes of

Uche Ukechukwu
Alloy Agu
Ben Iroha
Daniel Amokachi
Friday Elahor
Mosis Kpakpor with a few experienced African based Yekini, Nigerian based Ayo Ogunlana, Andrew Uwe, Ademola Adesina (had to stop playing for the local boy Friday Elahor), Baldwin Bazuaye, Toyin Ayinla, Herbert Anijekwu etc)

They got trashed seriously in the opening game 5-1, but these guys got all the way to the final and were unlucky to lose (1-0) in the final to the Rabah Madger inspired Algerian team who were also the hosts.

I strongly believe that the club you play for is not an ABSOLUTE!!!! History they say is the best predictor of the future!!!

Taliban:


Highly revered Komekn, I truly respect and admire you and the clear love you have for our fatherland.

I once learned an invaluable lesson that you can't take life out of sentiments and you can't take sentiments out of life.

They asked the Swedish coach if he was going to recall Ibracadabra and indirectly he said no.
Cantona, papin and ginola were dropped ftom the French team from 96 and 2 years later, we all know the outcome. None of the strikers in the French team now is better than benzema.

In conclusion we are all entitled to our opinions I only wanted the word we to be clarified. I can tell the we used by forgiveness at least covers both of you but doesn't seem to include most of the contributors on this forum. Like someone in Ibadan once said, the minority will have their say, the majority will have their way.

COOL10:
. He is an epitome of so much potential and talent. Hopefully he'll prove his doubters wrong at Leicester. I wonder why Slimani and Okazaki get to start before him? Did he even play against Man City yesterday?

komekn:


I was in Nigeria this period.

I also know that our leagues were not depleted or corrupted with money politics, etc.

As it stands our players have one objective to leave Nigeria even if it means going to Vietnam or Quatar.

In the entire footballing history of Nigeria we have never had so many players outside the nation than at this time. There has been a complete PARADIGM SHIFT in football compared to the 1990 era.

So those comparison are no longer applicable.

Tings don change.

Kog45:
Yea you are right Good old days.

Algiers 90 most professional players failed to turn up and Westerhoff just went there with largely home based players and performed well after shaking start.

The professional available are Andrew Uwe,Ademola Adeshina,Emma Okocha senior bro to JayJay,very solid player who didn't take football serious.

Love your post my man

komekn:



I also heard a wise man say, the majority is usually wrong.