Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:00am On Nov 21, 2017 |
Kakamorufu: nice! Buh i think his net worth is being inflated. He can't have up to that Possible, he might have other business ventures by the side though. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:13am On Nov 21, 2017 |
Joebie: I wish I were Rohr's scout. I will make sure any name that comes from your lips don't near the SE, just to see you wail again and again. I'm enjoying it. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
As it stands now, don't you see it happening? Solanke, Azeez, Raheem, Lookman, Aluko, Sanusi, Onomah, Ajagun, Martins, Awoniyi etc. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 11:15am On Nov 21, 2017 |
lexyman: i like the new of Agali been appointed as the chief scout ..... he may get us some decent striker .... i see him scouting tall and lanky players of his kind . so many good things to fall in place for the eagles Funny we do not know in which capacity he's scouting whether for players or opposition watch. His scouting role isn't well defined bruh |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:26am On Nov 21, 2017 |
Petrobros:
I tried to ignore this post but my conscience refused.
Forgiveness, I don't know what your problem is.
You better purge your heart of tribalism so you can think freely.
Are you the only Yoruba man here? It is very obvious that your hatred for the Igbo tribe is so deep rooted.
I wonder why some people will come here and still be pretending as if forgiveness is not a tribal bigot.
You better change this attitude of yours as it will take you no where.
Chai! See interpretation. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) I am a critical thinker and I analysis issues based on the parameters on ground. My opinions are not formed from illusion or delusion but from the facts on ground. Now, before you start calling me names, let me present to you once again the matter that led to your false accusations. Your false accusation came after I replied a comment that said and i quote. ' Once you perform you get invited. Same trend happened with Ighalo, Onyekuru, Uzoho. All talk about bribe, corruption and nepotism are unfounded and should be hushed up'. As you can see, the @ bolded caught my attention. 'Once you perform you get invited' my eyes popped out ..toyonyon.. What! ![shocked](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/shocked.gif) for where! In response, I emphasized on three players of which one invitation is very questionable and raised eyebrows. That particular player is Chidiebere Nwakali of whom if we speak statistically has done nothing tangible, in regards to performance this season to have justified an invitation. Or do you think he justifies an invitation based on that quotation? See I can also call you a bigot and tribalist if you justify his invitation because your are IGBO. I can even tag all those who did so as IGBOS because majority of his supporters here are IGBOS but I am very careful to restore to name calling and eventually ruin my reasoning hence the need to analysis issues based on solid facts on ground which I have done so far. However, the debate on 'once you perform you get invited' again raised my curiosity and doubt when Kayode is put into the picture. Because if 'once you perform you get invited' is the SI unit measurement used for invitation then why was Kayode Olanrewaju not considered on the three occasions he found himself in team? Pls, take note that on those three occasions that he was finally invited, Kayode was not initially on the list despite his eyes catching performance that won him best player and top goal scorer in the Austrian league which was also acknowledged by Man city and Guardiola. Now, to add salt to injury, when he came for the first two friendlies, the coach didn't deem it fit to try the new kid on the block on the position he won awards and didn't even start him in the second friendly but rather he played him out of position and gave him 14 and 20 minutes each. What dos that mean? Is friendlies no longer used to see players? The last time he called him due to injures on the part of players initially invited, it was for a dead rubber match and a friendly but he gave him just 3 minutes out of 180 minutes of football. Smh But you think all is well and his assertion should not be contested? Abraham who was just invited to the English had started for England and so it was done to any player called by the top teams in the world. Why is ours different? Alampasu has not been given the chance since he was invited despite the fact he did very well against fc Porto. Abi, is Girona better than fc Porto? How come he has not been tested over 5 good friendlies? Or having a clean sheet against former UEFA champions does not impose enough confidence in Alloy Agu? Think Think and Think. Now, Igbo is me I am Igbo. How? I am no saying I am but that is it.. Hating Igbo is hating myself. Period. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:27am On Nov 21, 2017 |
None of my tribesmen had ever played for the NT. Should I now gather my kinsmen, assemble ourselves in front of the Lagos lagoon taking a leap one after another crying marginalization??
The closest player I'd say we ever had was Stephen Odey, but how many times have you seen me pushing for his callup? I care about performances not representation from different ethnic groups of the country. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:30am On Nov 21, 2017 |
Mujtahida:
What kind of misplaced talk is all of this? The same Ademola who turned down overtures from the NFF? What has eaten into you so? Is that the debate? Did I mentioned or recommended Ademola Lookman for SE in that debate? Insecurity issue. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:31am On Nov 21, 2017 |
I deserve a place in Rohr’s World Cup team –Ebuehi![](https://www.ripplesnigeria.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/tyronne.jpg) Dutch-born Ado Den Haag right-back Tyronne Ebuehi believes his display during the Argentina friendly would convince Nigeria coach Gernot Rohr that he is worthy of joining his team to the World Cup. The 21-year-old, who made his international debut in a 3-0 friendly win over Togo on June after switching his allegiance from Holland to Nigeria, was fielded in the 4-2 defeat of Argentina in a friendly affair in Russia a week ago. Ebuehi came on as a 46th minute substitute and stamped his authority on the match within moments of his introduction by nullifying the threat of Paris Saint-Germain star Angel Di Maria. The Haarlem-born defender expressed his delight at having the opportunity of playing against one of the best players in the world. “I played against Angel Di Maria, a great player of course, and I cannot quite realise that I can play against him,’’ Ebuehi was quoted by voetbalprimeur.nl as saying at the weekend. “Defensively, I stood my ground, and offensively I tried to do as much as possible, and it all went well, I think.” Now, the player, who has a Nigerian father and a Dutch mother, says having proved his class in the clash against the star-studded Argentine side, he should be considered for a spot in Rohr’s World Cup squad. “All of a sudden you play against world stars, normally you see them on TV or you play them with FIFA on the computer,” Ebuehi was quoted by Dutch outlet NOS as saying on Monday. He believes his trademark speedy runs down the right flank, which have helped him cement a regular starting spot at ADO Den Haag, would help the Eagles in Russia. “I think it (playing against Argentina) went well, I have a lot of speed and I try to get a lot of the ball,” Ebuehi told NOS. “I think I left a good impression, it would be nice, that I play at the World Cup next year.” RipplesNigeria… without borders, without fears 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:33am On Nov 21, 2017 |
junnyjake: None of my tribesmen had ever played for the NT. Should I now gather my kinsmen, assemble ourselves in front of the Lagos lagoon taking a leap one after another crying marginalization??
The closest player I'd say we ever had was Stephen Odey, but how many times have you seen me pushing for his callup? I care about performances not representation from different ethnic groups of the country. People calling people names are the people that will prefer a mediocre player ahead of a performing one so long na em tribes man. Tell me any player I have mentioned here that is not based on performance. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) Na dere you go fear naija. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:41am On Nov 21, 2017 |
There was this Left-Back player who played for Rangers in their league winning season. I think Okolie was his name.
Where is that dude now? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:42am On Nov 21, 2017 |
forgiveness:
People call people name are the people that will call a mediocre player ahead of aperforming one so long na em tribes man.
Tell me any player I have mentioned here that is not based on performance. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
Na dere you go fear naija.
Sorry, but I'm not going down that road with you. 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:48am On Nov 21, 2017 |
junnyjake:
Sorry, but I'm not going down that road with you. I am on a critical thinking road hence the advice you think. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:01pm On Nov 21, 2017 |
Mujtahida:
It's so terrible, this thing. Our society is one that is riven with ethnic bigotry and division. Football and sports generally is the only save haven. I like watching football in viewing centers. Last week when we played Argentina, Hausa, Igbo, yoruba, Igede, Ijaw, Igbira, Nupe, Bassa etc all United to support the team. It's our team. It lifts us beyond tribal sentiments and we love them because the team embodies our highest ideal as a nation. Interestingly, after we defeated Argentina Zambians, Cameroonians, Ethiopians were congratulating Nigeria for doing Africa proud. And here we have forgiveness fighting for tribal representation.
People are thinking at higher levels, from deep historical perspectives on our team. I have not read anybody making this kind of tribal calls so consistently as forgiveness in my estimation seems to do. This thing is bigger than Nigeria not to talk of your tribe. Please Sir Icon4s go read Segun Odegbami's latest piece 'Super Eagles – The Black Man’s Burden, Responsibility And Hope!' https://www.completesportsnigeria.com/odegbami-super-eagles-black-mans-burden-responsibility-hope/ Nice write up from a great legend of the game. The major problem I see with we blacks is our attitude/mentality and not even the environment. Take all Americans to live in Nigeria and take all Nigerians to America . And in 100 years time you'll see Nigerians struggling to come back to live in Nigeria. With the right attitude and mentality we can achieve a lot even as a football nation. 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:08pm On Nov 21, 2017 |
Icon4s:
Nice write up from a great legend of the game.
The major problem I see with we blacks is our attitude/mentality and not even the environment.
Take all Americans to live in Nigeria and take all Nigerians to America . And in 100 years time you'll see Nigerians struggling to come back to live in Nigeria.
With the right attitude and mentality we can achieve a lot even as a football nation. Our natural environment is richly blessed. It is the human environment that is somewhat problematic but we would shed our bad habits with time, I believe. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 12:11pm On Nov 21, 2017 |
So this is Etim esin, He kinda looks like Wesley snipes. 3 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:12pm On Nov 21, 2017 |
tbaba12345:
Rohr must be from Uzoho's village. Nepotism Alloy Agu is the goalkeeper trainer. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:16pm On Nov 21, 2017 |
So for you the fact there is that they have 'pea-sized minds', I am pretty sure you cannot conduct a brain surgery so tell me how you figured out the size(s) of their mind(s). Like Mujtahida implored though, I am sorry for questioning your life's achievements, I have never met you personally nor you me, so I was wrong to go that far, accept my sincere apologies safarigirl: it is an opinion everyone is entitled to.
Your idea of achievements is objective my brother, how can I achieve what they have when we are not even in similar fields? Have they achieved what I have? Or you think I am not doing anything with my life because I don't come here to reel out names of footballers I have met? Or because I don't roll with NFF big shots? Is that your idea of achievement? Has Obasanjo achieved what Fela achieved? That is how ridiculous your comparison is
If you think it is insults, that is objective as well. It is facts to me.
After all, you never ask anyone of them what they have achieved whenever they attack our players.... Oh wait, you are one of those who calls players headless chickens
You're one to talk. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:16pm On Nov 21, 2017 |
Daejoyoung:
We can't call everybody, maybe an Aluko though, but Ademola's position is a competitive one in the SE at the moment. He can only be called if he is clearly better than what we have already. I agree we need Aluko though cos we need more creative midfielders. We can. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:18pm On Nov 21, 2017 |
Mujtahida:
What Mickael2 really picked on was on the word 'pea brain'.
Safarigirl, biko Let's treat each other with brotherliness but if that's not possible then at least civility. Sometimes we all throw words that hurt others but I believe that we have reached some degree of cordiality with each other discussing regularly here, so let's try as much as possible to do away with hurtful words.
Mickael2 you wanted to correct her. Good but there was no need for the dig as per 'what have you achieved in life'.
Both of you were missed after the Argentina match. It won't be good if you both now start jabbing each other. Cheers my people. We are together correction duly noted |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by enigmaticmotik(m): 12:26pm On Nov 21, 2017 |
You make good contributions but you just need to be more careful of your environment. I am proudly Yoruba (though I didn't choose to be one), the very thing that always bring people to this thread is the fact that we can share out opinions without getting into a tug of war like the politics thread. Let's try to avoid the use of words like marginalization, nepotism and any other word with "tribe" as the base word. The player I look forward to seeing in the NT is still Joel Obi. God bless Nigeria forgiveness:
Chai! See interpretation. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
I am a critical thinker and I analysis issues based on the parameters on ground.
My opinions are not formed from illusion or delusion but from the facts on ground.
Now, before you start calling me names, let me present to you once again the matter that led to your false accusations.
Your false accusation came after I replied a comment that said and i quote. 'Once you perform you get invited. Same trend happened with Ighalo, Onyekuru, Uzoho. All talk about bribe, corruption and nepotism are unfounded and should be hushed up'.
As you can see, the @ bolded caught my attention. 'Once you perform you get invited' my eyes popped out ..toyonyon.. What! for where!
In response, I emphasized on three players of which one invitation is very questionable and raised eyebrows.
That particular player is Chidiebere Nwakali of whom if we speak statistically has done nothing tangible, in regards to performance this season to have justified an invitation.
Or do you think he justifies an invitation based on that quotation?
See I can also call you a bigot and tribalist if you justify his invitation because your are IGBO.
I can even tag all those who did so as IGBOS because majority of his supporters here are IGBOS but I am very careful to restore to name calling and eventually ruin my reasoning hence the need to analysis issues based on solid facts on ground which I have done so far.
However, the debate on 'once you perform you get invited' again raised my curiosity and doubt when Kayode is put into the picture.
Because if 'once you perform you get invited' is the SI unit measurement used for invitation then why was Kayode Olanrewaju not considered on the three occasions he found himself in team?
Pls, take note that on those three occasions that he was finally invited, Kayode was not initially on the list despite his eyes catching performance that won him best player and top goal scorer in the Austrian league which was also acknowledged by Man city and Guardiola.
Now, to add salt to injury, when he came for the first two friendlies, the coach didn't deem it fit to try the new kid on the block on the position he won awards and didn't even start him in the second friendly but rather he played him out of position and gave him 14 and 20 minutes each. What dos that mean? Is friendlies no longer used to see players?
The last time he called him due to injures on the part of players initially invited, it was for a dead rubber match and a friendly but he gave him just 3 minutes out of 180 minutes of football. Smh
But you think all is well and his assertion should not be contested?
Abraham who was just invited to the English had started for England and so it was done to any player called by the top teams in the world. Why is ours different?
Alampasu has not been given the chance since he was invited despite the fact he did very well against fc Porto. Abi, is Girona better than fc Porto?
How come he has not been tested over 5 good friendlies?
Or having a clean sheet against former UEFA champions does not impose enough confidence in Alloy Agu?
Think Think and Think.
Now, Igbo is me I am Igbo. How? I am no saying I am but that is it..
Hating Igbo is hating myself. Period. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:29pm On Nov 21, 2017 |
We all know he is just sneaking Onomah in there. Not like he would celebrate if Rohr gives Onomah a call up I hate to even think about tribe for a second. junnyjake:
As it stands now, don't you see it happening?
Solanke, Azeez, Raheem, Lookman, Aluko, Sanusi, Onomah etc. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:31pm On Nov 21, 2017 |
Mujtahida:
Make una go carry Martins put for the team. Mujtahida you belong to a class here so don't join all these roforofo fight,leave them to sort their issues out. Pls let's talk football, anybody that want 11 Yorubas or 11 Igbos in the XI should go ahead,there is no short cut in football cos players were always expose. I can tell you we have some bleeping tribal guys here but you just need maturity to get along.If you have third eyes you w know them,they hide it but they are real sectional. I hope this thread w not be turned to political thread were you hear zombie, wailers,afonja,Igbos.This is football thread and we are all here for a purpose, the growth of super eagles. Let me tell you basic fact a TRIBAL man we always identify tribalism, so if they like they should keep on mentioning Kunle,Gbenga,Abiodun, Bola etc or Ebere,Chukwu,Chidi, Chukwudi etc the best w always play for eagles. Icon4s said he has learnt to ignore comments that w not yield any result than for one to make a statement out of annoyance that one w be regretting later. Petrobas was force to make a statement you HATE IGBO cos he cannot ignored, better for us to learn how to ignore and move on. Let me tell you basic fact about me if i quote you and I see that you are not the type i don't quote again. If am wrong i apologize immediately, am not here to win trophy but to share ideas and learn. Forgiveness is free to say anything as far he didn't disobey the rules of the thread,the best if you cannot have healthy arguments with him you move on.Let him name any player it's his opinion he can't force them on Rohr and is free to criticise him,nobody business. Remember have come here several time to analyze factors that can be responsible for players invitations and you make your own contribution, so what is big deal in what Forgiveness is saying regards player invitation. I have some monikers i take delight in having discussion with regularly,some very rear,some i don't quote cos it w end in insult.If i quote and i noticed our discussion is losing basic respect i cut off i can even say am sorry or OK just to end it. Mujtahida,Jobie, tbaba1013,Junnyake,four of you belong to a class here if you don't know and you guys are too big for this distraction cos we source a lot from you. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 12:37pm On Nov 21, 2017 |
Even if our National team emerges from just a single family in OSUN/KANO OR ENUGU STATE Who cares ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) ,what we re after is d success of d team ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) ,who quota system epp ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:41pm On Nov 21, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:41pm On Nov 21, 2017 |
Go back many pages and you will see I listed Chidiebere among the about 40 something or players I included in my Super Eagles formations. I have been monitoring the player, and in fact most of the Golden Eaglets (class 2013). I don't think his call up is out of place. However, it is debatable if we decide to talk of other players that have been seemingly ignored. But of all those alternatives mentioned so far, none have been particularly impressive in terms of recent stats. Why are you always in a hurry to cry foul? And the reason is you already have a preconceived notion. That's the problem. forgiveness:
Chai! See interpretation. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
I am a critical thinker and I analysis issues based on the parameters on ground.
My opinions are not formed from illusion or delusion but from the facts on ground.
Now, before you start calling me names, let me present to you once again the matter that led to your false accusations.
Your false accusation came after I replied a comment that said and i quote. 'Once you perform you get invited. Same trend happened with Ighalo, Onyekuru, Uzoho. All talk about bribe, corruption and nepotism are unfounded and should be hushed up'.
As you can see, the @ bolded caught my attention. 'Once you perform you get invited' my eyes popped out ..toyonyon.. What! for where!
In response, I emphasized on three players of which one invitation is very questionable and raised eyebrows.
That particular player is Chidiebere Nwakali of whom if we speak statistically has done nothing tangible, in regards to performance this season to have justified an invitation.
Or do you think he justifies an invitation based on that quotation?
See I can also call you a bigot and tribalist if you justify his invitation because your are IGBO.
I can even tag all those who did so as IGBOS because majority of his supporters here are IGBOS but I am very careful to restore to name calling and eventually ruin my reasoning hence the need to analysis issues based on solid facts on ground which I have done so far.
However, the debate on 'once you perform you get invited' again raised my curiosity and doubt when Kayode is put into the picture.
Because if 'once you perform you get invited' is the SI unit measurement used for invitation then why was Kayode Olanrewaju not considered on the three occasions he found himself in team?
Pls, take note that on those three occasions that he was finally invited, Kayode was not initially on the list despite his eyes catching performance that won him best player and top goal scorer in the Austrian league which was also acknowledged by Man city and Guardiola.
Now, to add salt to injury, when he came for the first two friendlies, the coach didn't deem it fit to try the new kid on the block on the position he won awards and didn't even start him in the second friendly but rather he played him out of position and gave him 14 and 20 minutes each. What dos that mean? Is friendlies no longer used to see players?
The last time he called him due to injures on the part of players initially invited, it was for a dead rubber match and a friendly but he gave him just 3 minutes out of 180 minutes of football. Smh
But you think all is well and his assertion should not be contested?
Abraham who was just invited to the English had started for England and so it was done to any player called by the top teams in the world. Why is ours different?
Alampasu has not been given the chance since he was invited despite the fact he did very well against fc Porto. Abi, is Girona better than fc Porto?
How come he has not been tested over 5 good friendlies?
Or having a clean sheet against former UEFA champions does not impose enough confidence in Alloy Agu?
Think Think and Think.
Now, Igbo is me I am Igbo. How? I am no saying I am but that is it..
Hating Igbo is hating myself. Period. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:45pm On Nov 21, 2017 |
Kog45: Mujtahida you belong to a class here so don't join all these roforofo fight,leave them to sort their issues out.
Pls let's talk football, anybody that want 11 Yorubas or 11 Igbos in the XI should go ahead,there is no short cut in football cos players were always expose.
I can tell you we have some bleeping tribal guys here but you just need maturity to get along.If you have third eyes you w know them,they hide it but they are real sectional.
I hope this thread w not be turned to political thread were you hear zombie, wailers,afonja,Igbos.This is football thread and we are all here for a purpose, the growth of super eagles.
Let me tell you basic fact a TRIBAL man we always identify tribalism, so if they like they should keep on mentioning Kunle,Gbenga,Abiodun, Bola etc or Ebere,Chukwu,Chidi, Chukwudi etc the best w always play for eagles.
Icon4s said he has learnt to ignore comments that w not yield any result than for one to make a statement out of annoyance that one w be regretting later.
Petrobas was force to make a statement you HATE IGBO cos he cannot ignored, better for us to learn how to ignore and move on.
Let me tell you basic fact about me if i quote you and I see that you are not the type i don't quote again. If am wrong i apologize immediately, am not here to win trophy but to share ideas and learn.
Forgiveness is free to say anything as far he didn't disobey the rules of the thread,the best if you cannot have healthy arguments with him you move on.Let him name any player it's his opinion he can't force them on Rohr and is free to criticise him,nobody business.
Remember have come here several time to analyze factors that can be responsible for players invitations and you make your own contribution, so what is big deal in what Forgiveness is saying regards player invitation.
I have some monikers i take delight in having discussion with regularly,some very rear,some i don't quote cos it w end in insult.If i quote and i noticed our discussion is losing basic respect i cut off i can even say am sorry or OK just to end it.
Mujtahida,Jobie, tbaba1013,Junnyake,four of you belong to a class here if you don't know and you guys are too big for this distraction cos we source a lot from you.
The fact remains FOOTBALL belongs to the IGBOS no debate on it,any tribe feel marginalised w just be wasting their time. @ bolded hahaha I'm not Igbo oh.. but that statement can lead to more pages of arguments. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:47pm On Nov 21, 2017 |
You have shown leadership by your apology. Mickael2: So for you the fact there is that they have 'pea-sized minds', I am pretty sure you cannot conduct a brain surgery so tell me how you figured out the size(s) of their mind(s).
Like Mujtahida implored though, I am sorry for questioning your life's achievements, I have never met you personally nor you me, so I was wrong to go that far, accept my sincere apologies
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:50pm On Nov 21, 2017 |
oga just drop the broken record. you have overplayed it. It's not like Rohr and Agu are even getting your messages.. Or maybe if you open a new thread we can help you get it to the top. That MIGHT help your case. forgiveness:
Alloy Agu is the goalkeeper trainer. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 12:51pm On Nov 21, 2017 |
Kog45: Mujtahida you belong to a class here so don't join all these roforofo fight,leave them to sort their issues out.
Pls let's talk football, anybody that want 11 Yorubas or 11 Igbos in the XI should go ahead,there is no short cut in football cos players were always expose.
I can tell you we have some bleeping tribal guys here but you just need maturity to get along.If you have third eyes you w know them,they hide it but they are real sectional.
I hope this thread w not be turned to political thread were you hear zombie, wailers,afonja,Igbos.This is football thread and we are all here for a purpose, the growth of super eagles.
Let me tell you basic fact a TRIBAL man we always identify tribalism, so if they like they should keep on mentioning Kunle,Gbenga,Abiodun, Bola etc or Ebere,Chukwu,Chidi, Chukwudi etc the best w always play for eagles.
Icon4s said he has learnt to ignore comments that w not yield any result than for one to make a statement out of annoyance that one w be regretting later.
Petrobas was force to make a statement you HATE IGBO cos he cannot ignored, better for us to learn how to ignore and move on.
Let me tell you basic fact about me if i quote you and I see that you are not the type i don't quote again. If am wrong i apologize immediately, am not here to win trophy but to share ideas and learn.
Forgiveness is free to say anything as far he didn't disobey the rules of the thread,the best if you cannot have healthy arguments with him you move on.Let him name any player it's his opinion he can't force them on Rohr and is free to criticise him,nobody business.
Remember have come here several time to analyze factors that can be responsible for players invitations and you make your own contribution, so what is big deal in what Forgiveness is saying regards player invitation.
I have some monikers i take delight in having discussion with regularly,some very rear,some i don't quote cos it w end in insult.If i quote and i noticed our discussion is losing basic respect i cut off i can even say am sorry or OK just to end it.
Mujtahida,Jobie, tbaba1013,Junnyake,four of you belong to a class here if you don't know and you guys are too big for this distraction cos we source a lot from you.
The fact remains FOOTBALL belongs to the IGBOS no debate on it,any tribe feel marginalised w just be wasting their time. GBAM |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:52pm On Nov 21, 2017 |
And it could be worse. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) Ajagun... junnyjake:
As it stands now, don't you see it happening?
Solanke, Azeez, Raheem, Lookman, Aluko, Sanusi, Onomah etc. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:53pm On Nov 21, 2017 |
forgiveness:
Chai! See interpretation. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
I am a critical thinker and I analysis issues based on the parameters on ground.
My opinions are not formed from illusion or delusion but from the facts on ground.
Now, before you start calling me names, let mortgages e present to you once again the matter that led to your false accusations.
Your false accusation came after I replied a comment that said and i quote. 'Once you perform you get invited. Same trend happened with Ighalo, Onyekuru, Uzoho. All talk about bribe, corruption and nepotism are unfounded and should be hushed up'.
As you can see, the @ bolded caught my attention. 'Once you perform you get invited' my eyes popped out ..toyonyon.. What! for where!
In response, I emphasized on three players of which one invitation is very questionable and raised eyebrows.
That particular player is Chidiebere Nwakali of whom if we speak statistically has done nothing tangible, in regards to performance this season to have justified an invitation.
Or do you think he justifies an invitation based on that quotation?
See I can also call you a bigot and tribalist if you justify his invitation because your are IGBO.
I can even tag all those who did so as IGBOS because majority of his supporters here are IGBOS but I am very careful to restore to name calling and eventually ruin my reasoning hence the need to analysis issues based on solid facts on ground which I have done so far.
However, the debate on 'once you perform you get invited' again raised my curiosity and doubt when Kayode is put into the picture.
Because if 'once you perform you get invited' is the SI unit measurement used for invitation then why was Kayode Olanrewaju not considered on the three occasions he found himself in team?
Pls, take note that on those three occasions that he was finally invited, Kayode was not initially on the list despite his eyes catching performance that won him best player and top goal scorer in the Austrian league which was also acknowledged by Man city and Guardiola.
Now, to add salt to injury, when he came for the first two friendlies, the coach didn't deem it fit to try the new kid on the block on the position he won awards and didn't even start him in the second friendly but rather he played him out of position and gave him 14 and 20 minutes each. What dos that mean? Is friendlies no longer used to see players?
The last time he called him due to injures on the part of players initially invited, it was for a dead rubber match and a friendly but he gave him just 3 minutes out of 180 minutes of football. Smh
But you think all is well and his assertion should not be contested?
Abraham who was just invited to the English had started for England and so it was done to any player called by the top teams in the world. Why is ours different?
Alampasu has not been given the chance since he was invited despite the fact he did very well against fc Porto. Abi, is Girona better than fc Porto?
How come he has not been tested over 5 good friendlies?
Or having a clean sheet against former UEFA champions does not impose enough confidence in Alloy Agu?
Think Think and Think.
Now, Igbo is me I am Igbo. How? I am no saying I am but that is it..
Hating Igbo is hating myself. Period. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
Okay I can see that it was the statement I made that made you begin to reel out your facts. That statement is not absolute. I am only drawing inferences from trend that I have observed. I noticed that some time early this year when Onyekuru was making waves in the news, he was invited. When Muzzam and Odey were the local raves in the league here they were invited, Uzoho made his debut and he was invited. Joel Obi just started posting good performances and the latest info say he's in the frame for March. So what does this tell you? You talk of Kayode but you forget that Ogu who just played twice this month has been on the bench since last year Nov. Kayode who was invited after him even featured first before him. And please take note of one very important point: a team is 23 players, all coaches have preferences. That you are invited does not mean you will play |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:55pm On Nov 21, 2017 |
Joebie:
@ bolded hahaha I'm not Igbo oh.. but that statement can lead to more pages of arguments. Look am a Yoruba man but that's the fact,every tribe knows where e belongs to when it comes to sports, economy, social,IT,politics.if 7 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:00pm On Nov 21, 2017 |
Mujtahida: I hate to go down this road but I have to: Amaju Pinnick is from Delta State, the first vice president of the NFF S. Akinwummi as well the NFF media officer Toyin Ibitoye are yoruba. The second vice president is Shehu Dikko from the North. Rohr has three Nigerian Coaches Salisu Yusuf from the North, Amapakabo is an okrika man, Alloy Agu is Igbo.
So if a Yoruba man is crying that yoruba players are not given a chance(and it's so clear now to me that that is what it is) does he know better than S. Akinwummi and Toyin Ibitoye who are in a position to influence things?
We have the strange case of Uche Agbo who has been invited for almost a year now without even a single game time. Nobody talks about him. Even the press is silent about him. Yet it's like the guy is a patient man waiting for his opportunity.
Rohr doesn't invite Kayode, wahala. He invites him even more wahala.
It makes me sad when accusations of tribalism begins to be made against this team.
If the teams likes let it be populated by gworo [sup][/sup]chewing abokis. Just play good football and win games. To hell with whatever tribe. My emphasises have always been harmmered on performance and not equal representative of tribes. That, I have tried to justify with proven facts. Is that difficult to perceive or understand? If players neglected happen to be from one particular tribe and are performing well, does it matters if one advocate for them? Does it make ones campaign a call for equal representation of ethnic groups in the SE even when it is clear they are better than some players in the SE? Does it matter who and where the advocate comes from? Is Komen seeking equal representation of ethnic groups by voicing out for Aluko, Martins, Onomah, Tammy etc? Is he a tribal bigot? Focus on the message and not the messenger so doing, you can have a sound reasoning. |