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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 1:14am On Nov 22, 2017
Emem Eduok's goal, a cracker


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV7Th3EHXyo

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 1:25am On Nov 22, 2017
Rohr with Aina, Onyedinma and Aribo... Throwback to the London training.

@komekn

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 1:42am On Nov 22, 2017
I really hope that Rohr stays with us beyond 2018, it is obvious that we would have a formidable team of every eligible Nigerian from any part of the world. Thanks for the pics tbaba.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:32am On Nov 22, 2017
somehow:
His job is not to scout for players per say, he's not spy on opponents. The senior national team is not a developmental team where you are to go about scouting for unknown faces. National (senior) is for known and established faces.
Agali who spent the period 1998 to 2004 in Rohr’s native country, Germany, was on Monday given the role to scout for new talents for the World Cup-bound Super Eagles. Source :sports villages quare.com
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:37am On Nov 22, 2017
Mujtahida:

Pray tell what are your facts and figures for saying Ebuehi will not perform well as a LWB?
what he did against Argentina we see him do everytime in training both on the right and left side of defence... Great player- Toyin Ibitoye

I will not take anything to the bank until it happens.

What happened to Aguero wasn't strange. He has the history and he was taken to the hospital as a precaution. Nothing to detract from the performance of the Argentines. They themselves have not given that excuse. Don't give it for them.

That Aina is the best, I won't argue. Na the one wey person see him dey talk. So it remains to be seen.
But peeps try to make it look like it's Aina against Ebuehi and Shehu or Ebuehi against Shehu and Aina. I don't see it that way. I am anxious for Shehu to be the best, for Ebuehi to be the best and for Aina to be the best.

On Idowu I have my doubts but I hope you saw that he was already in the box when Iwobi scored the equalising goal and he was there to pick on the ball from Nacho to score. The truth is our team play is tilted more to the right. Read solace chukwu on medium @oddsolace
"You may have noticed that much of our play comes down the right side of the attack. I make it 8 of our 12 goals were a result of build-up/a passage of play from that flank. That is a staggering percentage. Two have come down the middle, two from the left (one of those a corner)."
There isnt much play on the left side of our play. Against argentina not much interplay happened on left as compared to right. But there was a time an argentine was fouled and mikel was turning and turning . I noticed that idowu had already opened up a bit close to the centre line but nothing came of it cos foul had been given.
Thats why a LMF like Joel obi is needed to balance our play.

On the whole while i have my reservations i am still giving all players the benefit of doubt. I sure they are more eager to perform more than most of us even expect.


I do not buy the left side bias one bit. We score mainly from counters, let me ask you, if you are trying to generate a high-speed counter and you have Iwobi/Simon on the left side will you even consider them, knowing well enough that Iwobi has the pace but he isn't fast while Simon Moses is an average player who will slow the game down and spoil the counter, that is how it works. The day we get a Marcelo or Coman our attacks will start from the left, I do not think it is a weakness and I dont think teams can counter it either, just like saying a team will counter a counter attack, that is why it is called a counter attack, we are countering your attack because all your players are out of position.


About Ebuehi, how many games has he played at LB for his club?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:39am On Nov 22, 2017
soetanoreoluwa:


Good one Oga Michael2...how is work going?


when did I become Oga Sir soetanoreoluwa?

.work has been tiring, juniors suffer everywhere I tell you. Hopw you are good too
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:42am On Nov 22, 2017
soetanoreoluwa:


Hmmmm... Cool he going to find it difficult to get to the team... I mean Taiwo... Not that he's not good but Rohr mindset and What Rohr wants... You get? Like you said evolution... Gradual facing out... You get?

Martins I love.. Uche I prefer ...Taiwo I think about but do we have future with them?


Can you compare Martins of inter to Martins of Chinese league forgotten his club name.. Even in Newcastle he was so hot.. I watched him play every weekend.. Lol...
Do they have future with eagles?


Every player we invite must not be for the future, we have players for the here and now and we should utilise everyone in their peak instead of assuming that they are good now but they'd go bad by next two years so let's not call them.


Unlike forgiveness I won't hold bet my house on these guys making the team better or even getting invited, just that we have vacancies and it wouldn't kill anyone if they are tried again

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:43am On Nov 22, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

From reports, it was not a horror show. Aguero was dizzy and for precaution, took him off.

he had a fainting spell, like he passed out two or three times continously and he was left in the dressing room. On the pitch your mind will still go to that player who was left in the dressing room not knowing if the stuff got real
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:48am On Nov 22, 2017
tbaba1234:


Aguero did not collapse... He was taken off as a precaution. There was no psychological anything.

This is what changed for Nigeria in the second half. We made a tactical switch. In the first half, we were closing them down but not doing it efficiently and hereby creating spaces. In the second half, we changed the system, we remained compact, staying back and hitting on the counter. Argentina found it harder to break us down.

That simple tactical change is the difference..



I totally disagree. The Argentines did not find it hard breaking us down still, they had more shots than we did in the first and second half separately so they still had some joy in the second half but when you don't have an Aguero, Higuain, Messi or Dybala close to your opponents box, your scoring possibilities reduces to a minimum. Dybala on his part was trying to do what Messi does, creating from the middle, he failed to understand that he isn't Messi and he should just stick upfront and wait for DiMaria to bring the ball after Aguero left, but I am not here to point out how the Argentines could have done better.

Meanwhile there was no tactical switch or should I say that it had less effect on the game compared to the change in personnel. You can see that the formation was not a bad one, just square pegs in round holes and immediately the right guys were brought in the game changed
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:06am On Nov 22, 2017
Mickael2:



I totally disagree. The Argentines did not find it hard breaking us down still, they had more shots than we did in the first and second half separately so they still had some joy in the second half but when you don't have an Aguero, Higuain, Messi or Dybala close to your opponents box, your scoring possibilities reduces to a minimum. Dybala on his part was trying to do what Messi does, creating from the middle, he failed to understand that he isn't Messi and he should just stick upfront and wait for DiMaria to bring the ball after Aguero left, but I am not here to point out how the Argentines could have done better.

Meanwhile there was no tactical switch or should I say that it had less effect on the game compared to the change in personnel. You can see that the formation was not a bad one, just square pegs in round holes and immediately the right guys were brought in the game changed

There was a tactical switch.. And i am not just saying it. Leon Balogun talked about it after the match..

“In the first half, they played every ball into the space we offered them but in the second half, we were able to keep the space tight and that’s how we recovered a lot of balls and buildup those deadly counter-attacks. I think that’s what made us win"

They decided to play more compact after half time and hit on the counter. The Argentinians were creating nothing in the second half. Uzoho had only one save to make.

They struggled to even create anything before the goal but we were defending differently in the second half.

The change in the second half dynamics was mentioned by Sampaoli

“The momentum swung in their favour in the second half after they scored three goals in nine minutes from long range shots,”

Di Maria

“What a match. We started well, successfully held them in the early stages of the game, but the goal scored by Nigeria before the half time break was the turning point.“We were physically outplayed by a very strong opponent, and we calmed down a bit, and we paid for it. It’s good that this is not the World Cup yet. We will slowly sort things out.”

You should be happy with the team's second half performance because from your previous statements, you did not even think that they were capable.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Daejoyoung: 7:24am On Nov 22, 2017
Mickael2:


he had a fainting spell, like he passed out two or three times continously and he was left in the dressing room. On the pitch your mind will still go to that player who was left in the dressing room not knowing if the stuff got real
You assume that was the case, but if you watch that game carefully, the Argentine team started the second half the way they started the first, they also continued with the pressing and had the better chances. The major difference on the night was Rohr's switch of our wing back personnels. This made all the difference and not the so called psychological trauma from the Aguero comatose.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 7:26am On Nov 22, 2017
Rohr should try and convince Uduokhai
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 7:26am On Nov 22, 2017
This sheepee attitude is getting annoying meen.

Some people are turning this thread to a joke.

Attack opinions and not personality.

If you think someone or a point is off point, tackle it with a better point and not resort to gangup or stereotyping.

It's better we don't give room for anyone to stereotype another in order not to kill the beauty in diversity of opinions.


Forgiveness, you self need to tone down on your "nagging"( no pun intended bros), those who are neutral enough to read through your comments and the opposing ones will surely see your points are TRULY based on facts and not really on the tribe as some have stereotyped you to be.

But I advise again, please tone down on the way you repeatedly bang on some names here, it makes your points weak when the "nagging" become excessive.

@ all, please we shouldn't try to segregate this thread by dividing the contributors here. Everyone's input is needed and no set of people should be made to appear as Lords over others.

Let's try to bring a bit of quora to this thread where everyone is respected according to their inputs and not according to their time spent on a thread.

Let me go back to my more of reading mode.

It's better to read/hear more than talk/type.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:28am On Nov 22, 2017
zuchyblink:
Rohr should try and convince Uduokhai

Uduokhai will be difficult to convince...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 7:31am On Nov 22, 2017
No boss, he's not the first coach to beat the senior Argentine team. They got 4:1 before now.
Napoleon55:
why do u hate Rohr,the first SE coach to beat Argentine's senior national team,u owe this man an apology,and every member of this thread for always b against Rohr.
Rohr have my respect 100%.
if Rohr eventually perform well at the WC with the choice of his players,would u still attack.
u should know that there so many factors that determines players invitation,it's not just performance alone,good altitude, discipline,and good working relationship with ur coach can influence coaches' choice of invitation.
i mean would want us to hire ,GADIOLA,WENGER,ZIDAN.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 7:35am On Nov 22, 2017
And also Balogun, some of his errors are becomitoo glaring. Maybe it has more to do with his lack of fitness.
tbaba1234:
The fact that Rohr is still looking for a CB means he does not trust Omeruo and Agbo...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:37am On Nov 22, 2017
somehow:
And also Balogun, some of his errors are becomitoo glaring. Maybe it has more to do with his lack of fitness.

I think Balogun has to do with lack of fitness.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 7:42am On Nov 22, 2017
God, Germany even have up to 4 teams that can take on any teams in the world...now this is what I call a working national team. Injuries can't do nada to a country like this. I think their depth is even deeper than that of Brazil. They should be the tops in the world when it comes to depth.

If they use their advantage well, they should be winning the world cup repeatedly.
Mujtahida:
I hope this Akpoguma is quality cos this one wey he can't make even the fourth German squad so. Someone here has hammered on the bolded. It's this guy that I doubt his post WC commitment to the Gwg if he makes it to Russia. Owngoalnigeria.com as usual. You guys know the drill.


GERMAN JOURNALIST – WHY GERMANY DON'T NEED ROHR’S TARGET AKPOGUMA
German journalist Roland Mark has taken a swipe at Hoffenheim defender Kevin Akpoguma who turning down the chance to switch allegiance to Nigeria and possibly go to the World Cup in Russia next year .
According to coach of the senior national team of Nigeria Gernot Rohr talks are supposed to be held with the 22 year old soon as he views him as a player who can improve the defence of the team.
Mark who covers the Bundesliga however disagrees with Akpoguma’s stand regarding his reasons for snubbing Nigeria is because he feels he stands a chance to play for Germany.
It’s scary how some players think they can have a future at a team that doesn’t even know if they exist at all. I think Akpoguma is trying to get Germany to notice him by turning down Nigeria" Mark told Owngoalnigeria.com.
” This is the first time he is having a taste of the Bundesliga, and he is already 22. In the Germany national team there are about 8 players ahead of him, and a further 7 waiting in the wings. Among them he is by far the oldest among all and the least rated.
” If not for injuries he wouldn’t have been in the team of Hoffeinheim. Credit to him he has taken the chance to make an impression but in just few games, and one of the games was the one Rohr watched.
” He has to reconsider and play for Nigeria, that is his surest way of going to the World Cup. He need to take a cue from Leon Balogun who is now considered by some in Germany as one who got away from them, thanks to his display for Nigeria “.
Osas Mahawi

November 21, 2017
source: owngoalnigeria.com


I have posted it before but for reminders just take a look at the squad depth of Germany.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 7:43am On Nov 22, 2017
Yea I think so too, this might be an issue to us if he doesn't recover on time. We need quality backups and I support Rohr on getting better Cabs.

Germany is a place for such.
tbaba1234:


I think Balogun has to do with lack of fitness.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 7:50am On Nov 22, 2017
Bro, this is just an assumption from the media house you quoted, even Agali and Toyin didn't say that. To scout for players like say na U17 team we dey build?
Mujtahida:

Agali who spent the period 1998 to 2004 in Rohr’s native country, Germany, was on Monday given the role to scout for new talents for the World Cup-bound Super Eagles. Source :sports villages quare.com

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eligreat247: 7:54am On Nov 22, 2017
forgiveness:


Oga, Siasia team beat Argentina 4-1

Yes that's true. in a friendly match in 2011 (if my memory serves me right). They rather fielded their B team and got humiliated 4-1. They later arranged another friendly and field their major team that walloped us silly (can't remember the score line)

Am sure he actually meant to say the first coach to beat Argies main Team...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eligreat247: 8:04am On Nov 22, 2017
mank1234:


I just love this thread. No name callings. Everyone is pure at heart. Football is the common goal.

Meanwhile, I just watched Okocha's testimonial match and the guy was doing wonders. Methink we look in his direction to fortify the midfield. He can come in for Mikel at least in matches that we are leading 5:0 at the world cup.

Since we still lack goal poachers, I think we can even resurrect Yekini (after all we have powerful men of God here) and bring him back into the team to beef up our attack. Lol...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:50am On Nov 22, 2017
mank1234:


I just love this thread. No name callings. Everyone is pure at heart. Football is the common goal.

Meanwhile, I just watched Okocha's testimonial match and the guy was doing wonders. Methink we look in his direction to fortify the midfield. He can come in for Mikel at least in matches that we are leading 5:0 at the world cup.

That's a wonderful idea.

We should also go and beg Baba God to release Rashidi Yekini for us just for the world cup.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:51am On Nov 22, 2017
Eligreat247:


Since we still lack goal poachers, I think we can even resurrect Yekini (after all we have powerful men of God here) and bring him back into the team to beef up our attack. Lol...

Ah! I didn't even read this post before I wrote mine above.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by pyrex23(m): 8:56am On Nov 22, 2017
Mujtahida:


Good one. Joel Obi might just be the missing piece in our midfield and also a possible substitute for Mikel


Rohr is searching for a ball playing defender. How good are this young man's chances of playing for Germany where there's so much squad depth to the extent that Germany can field four different teams and he doesn't even get a mention? And if he decides to play for us they should let him know that his commitment lies beyond the WC ooo.

Forgiveness and komekn, make una go look for Agali number.
balogun is a ball playing defender d only problem is his lack of speed..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:56am On Nov 22, 2017
Eligreat247:


Yes that's true. in a friendly match in 2011 (if my memory serves me right). They rather fielded their B team and got humiliated 4-1. They later arranged another friendly and field their major team that walloped us silly (can't remember the score line)

Am sure he actually meant to say the first coach to beat Argies main Team...

Bros, a win is a win.

Who send them to present a B team. They were beaten 4-1 and that record will remain in the history books for life.

in 20years time when people see that result they will not see it as Nigerian Vs Argentina (B) .

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:04am On Nov 22, 2017
Mickael2:


he had a fainting spell, like he passed out two or three times continously and he was left in the dressing room. On the pitch your mind will still go to that player who was left in the dressing room not knowing if the stuff got real

Not fainting but dizzy. It was not the problem. Aguero was okay but taking off for precaution. Nothing close to a horror show.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 9:12am On Nov 22, 2017
Which one be team be? How many regulars as at then were absent? Not like they were anything fantastic then either.
Eligreat247:


Yes that's true. in a friendly match in 2011 (if my memory serves me right). They rather fielded their B team and got humiliated 4-1. They later arranged another friendly and field their major team that walloped us silly (can't remember the score line)

Am sure he actually meant to say the first coach to beat Argies main Team...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mumemma: 9:17am On Nov 22, 2017
tbaba1234:


Uduokhai will be difficult to convince...

Be like say na everybody we go convince o....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mumemma: 9:19am On Nov 22, 2017
D way una dey root players from all part of d world eh....be like say na everybody we go convince come play o......
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 9:50am On Nov 22, 2017
Rohr should try and convince Uduokhai, tounarigha, Emmanuel iyoha and Akpoguma even if they are not needed now, I believe they are the future
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:52am On Nov 22, 2017
Eligreat247:


Yes that's true. in a friendly match in 2011 (if my memory serves me right). They rather fielded their B team and got humiliated 4-1. They later arranged another friendly and field their major team that walloped us silly (can't remember the score line)

Am sure he actually meant to say the first coach to beat Argies main Team...
What is the meaning of first coach to beat Argentina main team.

Let me give you the scorecards between the two countries

Team P W D L GF GA DF PT
Argentina 6 4 0 2 12 12 0 12
Nigeria 6 4 0 4 12 12 0 6

There is nothing like team B in international friendly match and nobody is hating Rohr but that's the fact he was not the first Nigeria coach to beat Argentina.Samson yebowei Siasia was the first Nigeria coach to beat Argentina.

Let us always give respect to some of the the achievement of our coaches cos some always full excuses to downgrade their success.Do you want us to say Rohr beat Argentina cos Messi was absent,no is not tenable cos messi is not Argentina but a player playing for Argentina.

Truly the local coaches cannot be compared with foreign ones but they are the real foundation of Nigeria football.I remember the same Siasia won silver at Olympics but was not celebrated like Bonfrere Jo that won Atlanta 96 gold with bunch of Super eagles players.

Stephen Keshi won afcon but a lot believed it was luck winning all his matches from quarter final to final in 90 minutes but celebrate Westerhoff that used 5 years to nurtured a team to win afcon.

Let us just respect their achievement though they have their shortcomings and my advice i noticed some don't want Rohr to be criticised,no is not possible we need to evaluate him critically so that the team can grow.Criticising him is not hatred but for the love of the team.

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