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Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by macof(m): 9:13am On Nov 22, 2017 |
PabloAfricanus: Recent fabrications also include the bini claim There is no evidence that Oduduwa came from bini. This is sub Saharan Africa where coronation rites, rituals and traditions, festivals, songs etc are used to tell stories for example; when the owa idanre says he took oduduwa's crown he proves it by showing the crown itself in a festival similar to Olojo in Ife, in idanre there are songs and rituals of how those who came to retrieve the crown have failed When Ooni wants to show that he defeated Obatala it is proven through a festival. How Moremi saved Ife is portrayed in a festival What festival exist in bini that portrays oduduwa as a Bini man? What oriki or song? What part of the coronation rites of the Oba of bini portrays oduduwa? What saying connects oduduwa to Bini? Some shameless morons who are driven by sentiments and not passion for history came out to say something that has no basis in any their own culture or anybody's culture and more fools like you believe What is the difference between the Bini claim and Mecca? Both lack evidence and consistency If you want to know oduduwa's origin, to go Ife...theres an oduduwa cult, there are families who have been tasked for over 800years to pass down stories about oduduwa and keep his groove - the leader of these families is called Obadio. Coronation rites of the ooni tells us where his origin is, where he first goes to collect a crown (a makeshift crown, his the real one is now in Idanre) 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by gregyboy(m): 10:41am On Nov 22, 2017 |
macof: yea ...i get ur point ikaladeran izoduwa known as oduduwa have so many songs sang of his journey to ile ife and he was about to be killed many bears is name in benin names like izoduwa,oduwa,osagieduwa and so on his name is been immortalised in streets in benin he was never a king in benin tho so more would have been documented about him .when you go to the benin musuem you will see other related iteams of him oromiyan on the hand had a vast history because he strarted a new era he was the one who started the benin prince not seen his father till is death because he was never close to his son eweka .eweka was been trained by his grandfather and other noble chiefs he was only communicating with is dad through telegraphy stool which is still found in d museum uptill now note: izoduwa wasnt a big figure in the benin history unlike how he is in yoruba land we acknowledged oba ewuare 1 than him because he made benin what it is .the yoruba decided to document everything about izoduwa doesnt makes him not a benin man a wise mam once said a king isnt respected in his own home that's what happended to izoduwa but that doesnt still gives prove he is not a benin man his dressing has said he is a benin man not arab him wearing a white cloth and rounded coral bead and chains showing he was about to be killed a staff showing he has been treaking in the forest only these will tell u is a benin man 1 Like |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by laudate: 12:20pm On Nov 22, 2017 |
odigbosky:Ise! Uwese! You are right. A lot of people just like provoking others for no just cause. Just ignore them my bro.' The Oba of Benin is too big to be ridiculed. And jesters like Layi Ajayi-Bembe who stoke the fires of controversy, should be treated as comedians. His IPOB supporters should jump into the lagoon, if they like. Who cares? |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by laudate: 12:27pm On Nov 22, 2017 |
helpishere:Cut the crap. A Lagosian Yoruba man started a controversy, and your IPOB-Igbo jerks jumped on the bandwagon and used his comments to taunt the Yorubas and mock the Bini/Edo people, in order to create discord between them. The evidence is littered all over this thread. So who are you trying to patronise with your hypocritical statements? Abeg, swerve enter lagoon biko. Everyone can see right through your fake rhetoric. I am not even going to dignify any of your questions with an answer, because I am not going to be part of your pathetic attempts to play to the gallery. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by Frederick2017: 12:51pm On Nov 22, 2017 |
Watching those who quoted me on 6D |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by Olu317(m): 1:00pm On Nov 22, 2017 |
gregyboy:I can see that you guys are so misled by false information given to you all. Funny thing is that Odu'a didn't come from Bini because I am his descendants. My ancestors worship what is called IRUNMOLÈ.....And your ogiso didn't have anything that is linked to any animals in your own account. So get it henceforth that Odu'a didn't come from Ogodomigodo.. Period. Do you even know the meaning of Adimlia /Adumunia, which was his name? So, forget your IDU's claim. Even archeology between ILE IFE and IDU/IBini,showed ILE IFE as being older... You are dealing with a man who knows his ancestors history.... Quit such notion of any link between Odu'a and BINI. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by gregyboy(m): 1:20pm On Nov 22, 2017 |
Olu317: prove this wrong if ure a true descendant of oduduwa and u dont believe ure from benin am sorry ure lost and nd u havnt fiund ur way but if you believe ur ancestors descended from heaven or treaked from mecca den ure foolish needs to be arrrested by the police this is an image showing a rounded bead in his neck which the yorubas dont use only d benins it shows him tieing a white in his waist showing is also a benin what prove do you want no ones knows oduduwa in mecca
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Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by vonxe: 3:25pm On Nov 22, 2017 |
All these talk of Benin ancestor are indigenous to Lagos is a ploy by the Yoruba's to woo edo state in case of restructuring or Nigeria breakup. All the public display of Yoruba Edo marriages is part of the ploy |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by macof(m): 4:18pm On Nov 22, 2017 |
gregyboy: It's not even about ikaledehan or izoduwa as a person. It's about how this ikaledehan can be connected to Oduduwa. Have you ever wondered that they could be two different persons? 1. Let's look at the name izoduwa- "path of success" as bini says it means. Oduduwa - principle of creation as Yoruba says it means. Clearly the two names don't correlate 2. The name "oduduwa" is known in Bini. There are traditions and sayings using the name "Oduduwa" or "Oodua". Especially when talking about the Oba or Uhe(Ife) In the Oba's oriki(The only person in Edo culture with oriki) he is called "ovi'oodua n'uhe" son of Oduduwa of Ife not son of Izoduwa, he is also called son of Adimula How come bini have tradions of Adimula aka Oduduwa and only connect him with Ikaledehan through stories that are not backed by traditions? wearing a white cloth and rounded coral bead and chains showing he was about to be killed a staff showing he has been treaking in the forest only these will tell u is a benin man White clothes are sacred in Yoruba culture, Ife especially, it denotes oneness with the spirits, purity so to say. Yoruba traditionally practice a priest-king system and at that time it was even more serious with the likes of Obatala always wearing white, it became an Ife symbol of royalty and spirituality. So oduduwa wore white as well. Coral beads are Yorubawide accessories, long, short, round, straight all over yorubaland. And coral bead making was the profession of Oduduwa's wife. how does that connect oduduwa with Bini? That staff is a King-priest staff that all 13 Obas before oduduwa carried. It has nothing to do with trekking from Bini. Also the statue of oduduwa you are making all this silly observations from is not imagined from his first time in Ife but long into his reign...you could clearly see the crown, couldn't you? Do you know where Ooni of Ife goes to collect the crown of Oduduwa? Well...the makeshift, cause the real one was taken by Owa Idanre. That's the same place oduduwa's ancestral shrine is said to be. Jacob Olupona wrote a book "City of 201 Gods" about Ife where he observed some of the rituals of Oduduwa, nothing about Bini. It is so localized that it is safe to assume oduduwa was of the very land 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by Olu317(m): 8:10pm On Nov 22, 2017 |
laudate:People can make claims irrespective of their migration pattern. They didn't say anything to me but I know exact spot Aganga claims today in Lagos. However, don't focus on Aganga as it is not the main issue at hand. If you have issue on Aganga, which I made as an example, then, you will have to dig deeper into different people that claim location in Lagos State. And it will be a distraction because you are over flogging that part of my reference. Using a figurative speech in this contexture was what I did and fact are all over the places to affirm to how people migrated in the recent past. Now, if you can defend your ancestors history, then you need not blame me because I am just doing that. Even, among certain Yoruba group,Odua was and is seen as a female deity. And the difference is that the warrior king called Adimlia/Adimunia/Adimula was referred to as Odu'a and in ILE IFE history, he was a prince man, from the East. I don't want to fix my attention on Odu'a because he is not the Lagos Island the Op was referring to to but Layi Ajayi Bembe. But to quickly end this so as to clarify that the Edo lied is the reason I have mentioned difference in our tradition, which isn't Odu'a. The tradition that linked Yoruba to BINI were all imported to BINI from ILE IFE. You claimed that the Edo too have their own account, what account can they have? Tell your Edo people claiming Odu'a to tell me where in Edo /Ogodomigodo /IDU to come inform you an the rest readers, why Our panegyric is like this; OMO OKE, OMO EGÙN ,OMO A FI ADIÉ FUN FUN BORÈ. This is few out of the praise name of the ancient ancestors of Odu'a. Don't come and claim it is Yoruba because the lineage praise existed before the current and modern Yoruba language .Kindly inform the people you think has more stake in Odu'a than Yoruba to come tell us all, where in their community such people existed with that kind of panegyric, if they even have at all. What it means in EDO/IDU should be explained. I remain my humble self; Emi omo Oke, Omo Ajamaiye , Omo Kare o ' Ba mi 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by Olu317(m): 8:32pm On Nov 22, 2017 |
gregyboy:You make me laugh my dear. If I am from Bini, I won't deny it BUT MY ANCESTORS WERE NOT FROM BINI or IGODOMIGODO that was older than BINI. The person you posted wasn't Odu'a but OONI LAFOGIDO,who was one of my ancestors......I didn't need to read the deepest part of the ritual offering of my ancestors like millions of you people do because I was INITIATED INTO IT long time ago .... YOu people dont know Naddah! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by laudate: 11:18pm On Nov 22, 2017 |
Olu317: Guy, since you claim to know the exact spot Aganga claims today in Lagos, kindly tell us. You are the one that first brought up his name into the conversation, and you are the one that keeps making unfounded allegations and bringing up his name in every subsequent response that you make. So do not accuse others of focusing on Aganga. Layi Ajayi-Bembe that started the controversy seems to have escaped your notice, or are you deliberately keeping quiet about him? You ignored his allegations and decided to rope another man's name into your conversation, who was never part of the subject under discussion, in the first place! As for the Bini/Edo people, they have recited their own history from their own perspective. They are not preventing you from reciting or documenting your own, and they have not insisted that you must adopt their own history as your own, or adhere to their own version of what took place in the lives of their ancestors. Let every one share his own history, from his own perspective. Hopefully, one day seasoned academic scholars would be able to place the events within the right context in order to rigorously analyse the sequence of events that took place, with a view to placing them in the proper order. Among certain Igbo groups for example, there are those who trace their origin or ancestry to the Igalas, while others trace their ancestry to the Bini/Edo. But within the ancestral accounts of the Igalas, you would not even find Igala history mentioning the fact that any of their sons or ancestors, established any Igbo community or group. What am I saying? People recount their history from different perspectives. You have told everyone your own historical or ancestral origin and panegyrics. Leave others alone to tell theirs'. End of story. 1 Like |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by Olu317(m): 6:28am On Nov 23, 2017 |
laudate:IFAKO ,UNDER IFAKO-JAIYE AXIS ,is the location in Lagos. His surname will help you locate it. Then, if you claim I drag his name into it isn't a big because his name came up in my thought and that is it. And it won't be wrong to correct certain impression as this in the nearest future for people claiming all part they met people when they arrived . Furthermore, I have no problem with any one expressing their opinion but such Opinion must be corrected if it has to do with FACTS. ODU'A BELONGED TO YORUBA AND HIS SON ORANMYAN WAS THE CONNECTION TO IDU PEOPLE...... All other people can can discuss their own history but On Odu'a, TRUTH IS WHAT THE REST OF THE WORLD NEED TO KNOW. ADIMULIA /ADMLIA, THE MAN WHO WORSHIP IRÈ.THE MAN WHO USED WHITE PIGEON /DOVE /COCKEREL TO APPEASE GOD FOR SIN CLEANSING — IRUMOLE WORSHIPPER AND THE SON OF GOD... No idu have this peculiar account. |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by laudate: 6:34am On Nov 23, 2017 |
Olu317:Ifako under Ifako- Ijaiye is whose location? Why are you making all these fake allegations, without any proof to back it up? I thought only women spread gossip anyhow, but obviously your case is different. As for your idu or panegyrics or incantations, Oga you ate free to keep and recite them. Do whatever rocks your boat, and leave others to recite or recount their ancestral lineage and panegyrics, too. End of story. |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by Olu317(m): 12:26pm On Nov 23, 2017 |
laudate:Since you are not conversant with the location, then, you need to do your research if you don't know. The location is easy to know for those who lives or lived in that territorial part of Lagos. Lastly, you kept regurgitating same perspective based on your emotional attachment to concocted LIES. So, it is perfect for me to see you and the likes to continue in such direction. However, the few info I have given is for the millions of people that will come across this part of information, which OUTRIGHTLY NULLIFY LIES PEDDLED BY PAPER HISTORIANS FROM EDO. c'est fini mon ami |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by laudate: 12:40pm On Nov 23, 2017 |
Olu317:Oga, you are the only liar here. Everyone can see it. You were the first person to drag another man's name into this conversation, when he had absolutely nothing to do with it. Next, you mentioned his descendants, even though they had never made any assertions or claims to you. Now, you claimed he had something to do with Ifako-Ijaiye. Where is your proof? Must you peddle lies and deceit? Why don't you face Layi Ajayi-Bembe who was the one who actually started the controversy? Why are you pretending not to notice his antics? Instead, you are calling out someone else who is totally unrelated to the subject at hand. Are you done reciting your panegyrics and idu? Abeg, face your own calabash and stop digressing unnecessarily. Leave Edo people to recite their own ancestral lineage. Nobody is compelling you to accept their own story. Tell your own ancestral history, and leave others to state their own too, in peace! |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by gregyboy(m): 2:50pm On Nov 23, 2017 |
macof: u make me laff lets take it scientifical historically on this ur quote white clothes and beads was never in yoruba land b4 the british came as well as wearing clothes these are present adaptating in the 17 and 18century when yorubas encountered the white men who then brought clothes for the yorubas all your ancestors where naked b4 precolonial era unlike the hausas and fulani who LovePeddler clothes to cover thier bodies due to thier religion back to the benins. the benis where also naked before the encountered the poutuguese in the 14c as a matter of fact tue portuguese brought the white linean to the benin as well as coral bead which was gotten by the portuguese while sailining the coast we traded pepper and rubber as well as non indigenous slaves to the portuguese in return of clothes and guns thats why you see the benins chiefs clothing like that of a priest scientifically izoduwa was born centuries afer the Portuguese visit to the benins who got to wear the benin regalia as a prince that is a white clothe and a red round bead and which we know the yorubas dont wear round beads and not even red beads to start with obatala is joke story a person who is not even revered in yorubas history his story is only brought up to propagate controversy scientifically that is nothing like obatala that his joke story inshort youruba stories as whole is full of lies a yoruba stories says obatala is the elder brother of oduduwa who was drunk and oduduwa took advantage and became king instead of him anoda account says he was the first yoruba king who ruled and oduduwa came centuries later do u know what science will say about obatala he never existed and even if he existed he didnt come from sky and didnt wear white clothes so you dont know ur ancestors you just paste what your father told you in your skull even benin has a myth of creation smilar to the yorubas but it is dicarded because therw is no scientific back and to tell you the first ruler ogiso who came from was also said that he whor white clothes like that of obatala but we all know is all a myth so we dont add it to history and i believe it was the benin son who took story of creation to ile ife and yoruba adopted it like Christians adopted the story of creation from the biblr |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by Olu317(m): 7:11pm On Nov 23, 2017 |
laudate:What lie? Point it out,please... I mock at your ignorance. OK,enjoy the tale by the moon light from the land of ogodomigodo. The people associated with red colour. It is even a shame that Yoruba change the named of IDU to BINI. If it pains you that my ancestry isn't Edo, then that's your cup of tea.. Can't stop laughing!!!! 1 Like |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by macof(m): 11:25pm On Nov 23, 2017 |
gregyboy:I stopped reading where you said Yorubas didn't wear clothes until the Europeans. Smh. I thought you were a human being worth a decent conversation on History. If you don't even know the Yorubas have had a booming clothing industry how can you understand basic principle of African historical research? 1 Like |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by macof(m): 11:29pm On Nov 23, 2017 |
gregyboy:Smh. I stopped reading where you said Yorubas didn't wear clothes until the Europeans. I know everything after that just like everything you have posted before that will be bullshit and I'm tired of seeing Africans so stupid, talking in fields they know nothing about I thought you were a human being worth a decent conversation on History. If you don't even know the Yorubas have had a booming clothing industry how can you understand basic principle of African historical research? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by laudate: 12:11am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Olu317:The lies you have told against other people, are so obvious. Just take look at your previous posts, and check the allegations you made against innocent citizens and their descendants. Am not bothered about your ancestry, as I have nothing but respect for Yoruba people. I am just concerned that you want to force your own narrative on others, instead of letting everyone tell their ancestral history, the best way they understand it. Like I said before: tell your own history and let others recite their own, too. Why is that so hard for you to grasp? And if you think that you are mocking anyone's ignorance, you are mistaken. You are only exposing your own intolerance and lack of objectivity. |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by Olu317(m): 12:57pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
laudate:You are the one that sees it like that because it seems you are in support of the falsified lies that even an innocent heart can easily be confused to believe that their Ikarlehedan or izoduwa came to ILE IFE and founded anew dynasty that came from IDU. The truth is that if I am from that lineage called IDU, it won't be a problem at all but we are not . But the truth is the truth even if you as a person want them to tell a FABLED STORY FROM WHEREVER THEY GOT IT. I have no problem with ordinary Edo chaps, irrespective where such comes from but DISTORTION OF MY ANCESTRY, I WILL NEVER TAKE SUCH LIKELY. Let them restrict their storyline to OGISO, OGIEMEN, and not Olofin adimlia/Adimunia. Odu'a never descended from people who bore mark on their body in the ancient time. The burial site observed and researched at ILE IFE by Suzan Blair , which is also support that Odu'a lineage have a sign of diadem circle on their burial sites... Do they have such in IDU? I don't hate Edo people but let them tell a true story of whatever happened to their dead IZODUWA, who died in a village that is not too far from lgodomigodo after many years over there. You may not like my perspective and genuine information but it is the TRUTH as it regard my ancestral worshipping.. The truth is bitter. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by laudate: 3:13pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
Olu317:You are still here belly-aching? The day you decide to make sense, then you can call me...for now, please go and lament in your little corner, since you have nothing of value to add to the discussion. |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by Olu317(m): 8:04pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
laudate:Make sense to you ? What sense do I need to instil into you so that you can learn to accept truth from ILE IFE and the man's descendants? What digression again? OK! Do BINI prince or king bear Ologun? The descendants of Ologun kutere is the ruling house of iduganran /Obun Eko. Show me names associated with them that is of Edo ancestry. Ponder over this as long as any story of EKO ILE is concerned. And on Odu'a, you have no goddamned fact but opinion, which is understandable but kindly keep it to yourself because it holds no water. 1 Like |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by laudate: 8:11pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
Olu317: Let every ethnic group tell their own ancestral history from their perspective, as they understand it. Don't force your own narratives on others. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Oya, have the floor and continue wailing. I have never expressed an opinion about Odua, so what are you going on about? |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by Olu317(m): 11:01pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
laudate:Go ahead and showcase Your Own ancestral lineage or tribe. Perhaps, you will b the one to show your talent. What concerns me if IDU descended from sky or Igala from Nok or wherever anyone chooses to identify with? If anyone wants to to identify with Yoruba ancestors, so be it but drag my ancestors not into it. Edo who have intermarried in Lagos,Ekiti or anywhere in Yoruba land can so choose to come forth and be proud of it as I am proud of my Race. Yoruba don't distort history but dem dem do. Furthermore , you drag yourself into this which resulted into Odu'a issue,have you forgotten? And because you assumed the position of a good sympathizer, which seems very wrong because you are not informed as to the reasons for my opinion and you have Learned either you like it or not as it stand. And if you disagree as I can perceive until I am proven otherwise,at least others have learnt too. Perhaps, you can do DNA to verify if you are Yoruba descendant too. Who knows? |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by laudate: 12:27am On Nov 25, 2017 |
Olu317:I know my ancestry and I do not need to write long epistles to prove it to anyone, neither do I need to wail about it, like you have been doing on this thread. Like I said before: "Let every ethnic group tell their own ancestral history from their perspective, as they understand it. Don't force your own narratives on others." Only goodness knows why such a simple fact, is so difficult for you to comprehend. Oya, continue ..... cry me a river. Wail some more! |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by Olu317(m): 5:36am On Nov 25, 2017 |
laudate:You are the one that need relevance! Of course I don't. I came online here to silence LIARS and paper researchers of your likes. Long epistles indeed? Are you so damn ashamed to write about your IGALA ANCESTRY or where ?Come up and be bold about it. On my information, is to correct anomaly as it regard Yorubas history,which is perfectly NORMAL. Kindly do that about Your history too if need be. I wish you knew how hard I have been laughing at your Town Crier's attitude. Proudly Yoruba. And you are proudly who? |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by Konquest: 5:47am On Nov 25, 2017 |
Oloripelebe:^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ 75 likes ll 8 shares on thread page 1 as of November 25, 2017! Bini Royal Rivalry =>Ikhime [corrupted to Chime or Chima] => Onitsha Ado N'idu People Implications: Nnamdi Azikiwe is of Bini Royal origin dating back to his ancestors in the 1550s. The Ezearoli lineage of Onitsha or Onicha! There is also Igala and Nri migrational influence among some of the 9 quarters in Onitsha NOT only Bini influences. ~~~~~ On the other hand Chief Olayiwola Ajayi-Bembe was rambling and contradicting himself in that Punch interview of page 7, November 19, 2017 by referring to himself as an Awori and then later referring to himself as a Bini NOT Yoruba. In reality, Ajayi-Bembe has Yoruba and Bini ancestries with the Yoruba ancestry probably being more dominant! I think he might be experiencing some AGE-RELATED mental tension as a result of the ramblings On page 6 of the same newspaper, Alhaji Femi Okunu who is also from Lagos Island LUCIDLY and correctly said "Lagos Island is owned by the Aworis" while also talking about the small migration of some Tapa or Nupe in the 1800s who had married and blended into the Yoruba owners of the land. They introduced the Igunuku into Lagos Island. Sango's mother [Yemoja] was a Tapa or Nupe so no big deal because she is revered in Yorubaland and in the Diaspora populations in Brazil, Cuba, Haiti, USA, etc. In reality, Aworis are Yoruba from Ife - The children of Olofin, and they are the real owners of Lagos Island and Lagos Mainland with the exception of the Ijebu LGAs in Lagos state of Ikorodu, Epe, and Ibeju-Lekki LGAs. Aworis inhabit Badagry LGA along with the Ogu [Egun] who are of mixed/blended Yoruba and Fon ethnicities. The white cap chiefs of Lagos Island are descended from the children of Olofin who own Ido Island and Eko. Eko was used for settlement and farming by the Awori-Yoruba before the arrival of the Bini who came in peacefully at first. Eko means FARM [shorterned from EREKOSI which means Pepper Farm in Awori dialect] not war camp like is dubiously seen in Wikipedia as propaganda. All the best! 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by Olu317(m): 5:59am On Nov 25, 2017 |
laudate:You re the one that seek relevance, I don't. Just like any other Yoruba man will do once he is opportune to do so. I dare you to mention a portion where I acted like you by poking into things naturally not as deeply of your concern. I do justice to issue related to my tribe mostly. And pass out information if I have fact on my care,even if I have personal opinion, which is normal to any human being. You are |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by Olu317(m): 6:24am On Nov 25, 2017 |
laudate:You re the one that seek relevance, I don't. Just like any other Yoruba man will do once he is opportune to do so. I dare you to mention a portion where I acted like you by poking into things naturally not as deeply of your concern. I do justice to issue related to my tribe mostly. And pass out information if I have fact on my care,even if I have personal opinion, which is normal to any human being. You are the one with ego my friend because YOU ARE NOT EVEN BINI. What concerns you? Lastly, if Ooni can correct anomalies in the past in Yoruba land ,why wouldn't any Yoruba man stop distortion. Even Present Ooni Ogunwusi countered Oba BINI on who Odu'a personality was before he was rightly told by the kingmakers to ignored Oba BINI on such matters. Since you have decided to show case your talent here, then you must be very deep with history .Kindly be proud of your identity because it is self dignifying. Please show your talent by letting us know you if you are conversant with others history. Lastly, I have made my point, so enjoy the bitter truth....Bon weekend. Proudly Yoruba laudate:You re the one that seek relevance, I don't. Just like any other Yoruba man will do once he is opportune to do so. I dare you to mention a portion where I acted like you by poking into things naturally not as deeply of your concern. I do justice to issue related to my tribe mostly. And pass out information if I have fact on my care,even if I have personal opinion, which is normal to any human being. You are the one with ego my friend because YOU ARE NOT EVEN BINI. What concerns you? Lastly, if Ooni can correct anomalies in the past in Yoruba land ,why wouldn't any Yoruba man stop distortion. Even Present Ooni Ogunwusi countered Oba BINI on who Odu'a personality was before he was rightly told by the kingmakers to ignored Oba BINI on such matters. Since you have decided to show case your talent here, then you must be very deep with history .Kindly be proud of your identity because it is self dignifying. Please show your talent by letting us know you if you are conversant with others history. Lastly, I have made my point, so enjoy the bitter truth....Bon weekend. Proudly Yoruba |
Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by odigbosky(m): 8:37am On Nov 25, 2017 |
gregyboy: u try
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