BlackManta:


Is there anything exaggerating about feminism?
Is there any atom of unfair generalization in my article?

I'm not on the MEN ARE SCUM crew.
I dont hate all men...just the bad ones that maltreat women.
I did not generalize.

You obviously have feminism confused with feminazi.
Cuz feminazi is the extreme and exagerated one not feminism.

I have followed the Kevin Spacey and Harvey Weinstein.
I condemn sexual harassment even if the victim is male.
Sexual harassment affect women more and i know than men can be victims too.
Either of sexual harassment or false accusation.
I totally condemn it.
I'm a man and i know what it feels like to be falsely accused of sexual harassment.

Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey are guilty and should face criticism.

Emily Lindin is a feminazi not a feminist.
You obviously have feminazi confused with feminism.

Feminism is a balanced concept.
It is not extreme,exagerated of generalized.
Feminism does not support injustice against men on the issue of gender.

Feminazi is an extreme and perversed version of feminism.
Emily Lindin is only hiding under the cover of feminism.
Many feminazis claim to be feminist but they are not.

There is a difference between feminism and feminazi.
Don get it confused.

True feminism does not support injustice against men.

Perhaps i will make a thread and explain the differences between feminism and feminazi.

I condemn Emily Lindin.
A true feminist would do the same.

Ranchhoddas:
Feminazi?
My phone's dictionary does not even recognize the word.
Is there is a feminist rulebook?
A feminist code of conduct that you all are expected to abide by?
All of a sudden a vocal feminist is not longer a true feminist.

Why is it that when one feminist says what is really on your minds you all switch to this tactic of calling them feminazi?

Your comment reeks of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy (look it up) and I am no longer in the business of addressing illogicalities.
(I don retire).

Daeylar:
Nice thread blackmanta
Don't let anybody distract you with some ridiculous arguments or their attention seeking antics or make you lose your cool,
You've made your point, and it was a brilliant one,


Whining babies everywhere on this thread.
tired of the topic of this thread, but yet cannot ignore.
Wants certain topics to be discussed yet cannot open a thread to discuss it,
Yet still feel they can question anyone on the topic they wish to create.
It's their choice to open a thread on what they want,
You don't control them.

Whining on someone's thread about which topic they should create, if you really feel that a topic should be discussed, stop whining and create the thread yourself.

Feminism is about gender equality too .

The reason why you don't hear of masculinity is because men are the most favoured gender.

The majority of gender discrimination,stigmatisation and injustice is against women

Who are the major victims of rape?
Men or women?

Who are the major victims of domestic violence?
Is it not women?

Have you ever heard of male widows/widowers being oppressed and accused of killing their wives?

Have you ever heard of male non-virgins being stigmatised cuz they lost their virginity before marriage?

Have you ever heard of men being marginalized in the labour force,politics,government and other leadership positions cuz of gender?

Have you ever heard of men trafficking and male sex slavery?

List out the gender injustices in the society and you will know that the woman is really suffering.

[Of course some problems in the society affects both genders or men in particular.
But injustice against women is too much that the idea of feminism had to be born to fight it .

If women were enjoying the privileges that men enjoy today there would be nothing like feminism.

But women are the most oppressed gender,that is why feminism is necessary

If you know the gravity of injustice that women suffer,you will know that men are the most favoured gender.

Over 7,000 women are murdered every year for mercy killings due to female inferiority and to restore family honor.

Over half of the world's women have suffered genital mutilation. Some resources estimate over 85%.

Child marriages (girls under 15) occur at alarming rates and a number of children physically and sexually abused in these situations is equally overwhelming.

Rape occurs in all forms, but the majority are men-on-women scenarios. Rape is not taken seriously and is incredibly under-reported. Statics in Bangladesh reports that 61% of urban rapists felt no remorse due to social views on women and over 95% of reported rapes led to no convictions.

Even though women are rising in the workplace, sexualsexual harassment is still thriving as a way to play a power game between genders. Over 50% of women report being sexually harassed at work.

[Sex trading and forced prostitution are still a dominating business on a global scale.

quoteThe media still promotes women as sexual objects dependent on men.

Women face inferior stereotypes socially, but that is the whole article in itself.

Wage disparity is real and women are paid less than men for the same jobs with the same degrees.

Women are pressured by looks. Look at the makeup industry and how much women pay to get the “flawless natural" look to conform.

BlackManta:


You cannot support gender equality and bash feminism.
Feminism is about gender equality too .

The reason why you don't hear of masculinity is because men are the most favoured gender.
The majority of gender discrimination,stigmatisation and injustice is against women

Who are the major victims of rape?
Men or women?

Who are the major victims of domestic violence?
Is it not women?

Have you ever heard of male widows/widowers being oppressed and accused of killing their wives?

Have you ever heard of male non-virgins being stigmatised cuz they lost their virginity before marriage?

Have you ever heard of men being marginalized in the labour force,politics,government and other leadership positions cuz of gender?

Have you ever heard of men trafficking and male sex slavery?

List out the gender injustices in the society and you will know that the woman is really suffering.

Of course some problems in the society affects both genders or men in particular.

But injustice against women is too much that the idea of feminism had to be born to fight it .

If women were enjoying the privileges that men enjoy today there would be nothing like feminism.
But women are the most oppressed gender,that is why feminism is necessary.

If you know the gravity of injustice that women suffer,you will know that men are the most favoured gender.

Over 7,000 women are murdered every year for mercy killings due to female inferiority and to restore family honor.

Over half of the world's women have suffered genital mutilation. Some resources estimate over 85%.

Child marriages (girls under 15) occur at alarming rates and a number of children physically and sexually abused in these situations is equally overwhelming.


Rape occurs in all forms, but the majority are men-on-women scenarios. Rape is not taken seriously and is incredibly under-reported. Statics in Bangladesh reports that 61% of urban rapists felt no remorse due to social views on women and over 95% of reported rapes led to no convictions.

Even though women are rising in the workplace, sexual harassment is still thriving as a way to play a power game between genders. Over 50% of women report being sexually harassed at work.

Sex trading and forced prostitution are still a dominating business on a global scale.

The media still promotes women as sexual objects dependent on men.

Women face inferior stereotypes socially, but that is the whole article in itself.

Wage disparity is real and women are paid less than men for the same jobs with the same degrees.

Women are pressured by looks. Look at the makeup industry and how much women pay to get the “flawless natural” look to conform.

dicefrost:


Arguments in favor of feminism is usually flawed, and fails to realise one simple yet vital truth. NATURE CREATED AN IMBALANCE. Women are often victims of rape and domestic violence because men are physically stronger. That is not a problem that gender equality can fix! Those countries need better law enforcement. There is no country in the world were rape is legal. Gender equality won't stop perverts from bring perverts. As long as the imbalance created by nature exists, gender equality cannot be fully actualized. You talk about sex trafficking and slavery etc. These things happen because men are naturally dominant. A woman can't force a man to be a sex slave. But the reverse can happen because a man is dominant. What we ought to fight for is protection for woman, because they are the eeaker of the sexes, not equality.

BlackManta:


I support APC but i'm not an APC member.
I love Niger Delta but i'm not a niger deltan.
I support the independence of Catalonia but i ain't Catalan.

But you think i must be a pussy to support feminism?

If you think i have to be famale to be able to speak up for women rights, then you have a problem.

I dont have to be a woman to support feminism.
There are men who are feminist
too.
I'm one of them.

If you have any problem with feminist, you can argue with me.

Until then...go hug transformer.

Ranchhoddas:
Something not feminism.
Something without exaggerations and generalizations.



Have you been following the Kevin Spacey and Harvey Weinstein stories?

Why not talk about how a certain Emily Lindin tweeted that she does not care if some innocent men lose their jobs over false allegations of sexual harassment?

That would make for an interesting conversation don't you think?

Ranchhoddas:
Feminazi?
My phone's dictionary does not even recognize the word.
Is there is a feminist rulebook?
A feminist code of conduct that you all are expected to abide by?
All of a sudden a vocal feminist is not longer a true feminist.

Why is it that when one feminist says what is really on your minds you all switch to this tactic of calling them feminazi?

Your comment reeks of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy (look it up) and I am no longer in the business of addressing illogicalities.
(I don retire).

Belafonte:
gendeer=BlackManta post=62690177]

You cannot support gender equality and bash feminism.
Feminism is about gender equality too .

The reason why you don't hear of masculinity is because men are the most favoured gender.

The majority of gender discrimination,stigmatisation and injustice is against women

Who are the major victims of rape?
Men or women?

Who are the major victims of domestic violence?
Is it not women?

Have you ever heard of male widows/widowers being oppressed and accused of killing their wives?

Have you ever heard of male non-virgins being stigmatised cuz they lost their virginity before marriage?

Have you ever heard of men being marginalized in the labour force,politics,government and other leadership positions cuz of gender?

Have you ever heard of men trafficking and male sex slavery?

List out the gender injustices in the society and you will know that the woman is really suffering.

[Of course some problems in the society affects both genders or men in particular.
But injustice against women is too much that the idea of feminism had to be born to fight it .

If women were enjoying the privileges that men enjoy today there would be nothing like feminism.

But women are the most oppressed gender,that is why feminism is necessary

If you know the gravity of injustice that women suffer,you will know that men are the most favoured gender.

Over 7,000 women are murdered every year for mercy killings due to female inferiority and to restore family honor.
A simple will outlaw this. When Mary Slessor put an end to killing twins she didn't set up a pro-twins movement. She simply educated the locals and appealed to the appropriate authorities.
2
Over half of the world's women have suffered genital mutilation. Some resources estimate over 85%.
I would like to see the stats for genital mutilation in men, which I'm very sure far outnumbers any women can put forward.



Child marriages (girls under 15) occur at alarming rates and a number of children physically and sexually abused in these situations is equally overwhelming.
Again, there are laws for this.

Yes there are laws for it and feminism aims at making sure that those are laws are enforced and rapists are given befitting jail term.
They also protect victims,rehabilitate and educate young girls on how to lower the risks of getting raped and you still think feminism ain't necessary?

Rape occurs in all forms, but the majority are men-on-women scenarios. Rape is not taken seriously and is incredibly under-reported. Statics in Bangladesh reports that 61% of urban rapists felt no remorse due to social views on women and over 95% of reported rapes led to no convictions.
Well, the stronger rapes the weaker, and most rapists are heterosexual. This should tell you why most rapists are men. There are råpe laws, they should be followed.

There are laws for rape and feminist are there to see that those laws are enforced and culprits are punished.
Even though women are rising in the workplace, sexualsexual harassment is still thriving as a way to play a power game between genders. Over 50% of women report being sexually harassed at work.
Well, man must toast women.

There is a limit to man toasting woman.
Sexual harassment is wrong and must be condemned.
You dont expect women to surrender to sexual harassment just because 'man must toast".
[Sex trading and forced prostitution are still a dominating business on a global scale.
Young boys are also being bought and sold as sex slaves worldwide. This isn't peculiar to the female gender.

Sex slavery is greater on the female side.
Majority of sex slaves are female.

quoteThe media still promotes women as sexual objects dependent on men.If the media does this, they are only following the leading of women themselves. All we need do is take a cursory look at millions if social media accounts to get a glimpse into how women really see themselves. As they say, art imitates life.

Women face inferior stereotypes socially, but that is the whole article in itself.
What does this even mean?

Wage disparity is real and women are paid less than men for the same jobs with the same degrees.
Lies. The wage gap has been debunked as an insidious myth. I challenge you to prove that women are paid less than men anywhere in this world. I will give you a full year to make your research and come up with such a situation.

Women are pressured by looks. Look at the makeup industry and how much women pay to get the “flawless natural" look to conform.
Women pressure themselves to look good for the best possible mate. This isn't society's fault, these women know they have to look good to attract men. The makeup industry is making a killing because women want to outdo their peers in the attraction department.

Ranchhoddas:
I am assuming that this drivel is directed at me.
Is there something on your mind miss?
Of all the things I am, attention seeker is the last thing I would be called. In fact I run away from attention.
But let's say I wanted to court attention, it would be yours because...?

If you have something to say to me, please do. I won't cry.

The real babies are the one who hide behind thinly-veiled comments to voice their displeasure at something or someone, especially on an anonymous platform.

If you must spew twaddle in my direction, at least have the nerve to do it straight up.

Your juvenile display of petulance is unbefitting of the personality I assume is behind your moniker.

Belafonte:
gendeer=BlackManta post=62690177]

You cannot support gender equality and bash feminism.
Feminism is about gender equality too .

The reason why you don't hear of masculinity is because men are the most favoured gender.

The majority of gender discrimination,stigmatisation and injustice is against women

Who are the major victims of rape?
Men or women?

Who are the major victims of domestic violence?
Is it not women?

Have you ever heard of male widows/widowers being oppressed and accused of killing their wives?

Have you ever heard of male non-virgins being stigmatised cuz they lost their virginity before marriage?

Have you ever heard of men being marginalized in the labour force,politics,government and other leadership positions cuz of gender?

Have you ever heard of men trafficking and male sex slavery?

List out the gender injustices in the society and you will know that the woman is really suffering.

[Of course some problems in the society affects both genders or men in particular.
But injustice against women is too much that the idea of feminism had to be born to fight it .

If women were enjoying the privileges that men enjoy today there would be nothing like feminism.

But women are the most oppressed gender,that is why feminism is necessary

If you know the gravity of injustice that women suffer,you will know that men are the most favoured gender.

Over 7,000 women are murdered every year for mercy killings due to female inferiority and to restore family honor.
A simple will outlaw this. When Mary Slessor put an end to killing twins she didn't set up a pro-twins movement. She simply educated the locals and appealed to the appropriate authorities.
2
Over half of the world's women have suffered genital mutilation. Some resources estimate over 85%.
I would like to see the stats for genital mutilation in men, which I'm very sure far outnumbers any women can put forward.

Child marriages (girls under 15) occur at alarming rates and a number of children physically and sexually abused in these situations is equally overwhelming.
Again, there are laws for this.

Rape occurs in all forms, but the majority are men-on-women scenarios. Rape is not taken seriously and is incredibly under-reported. Statics in Bangladesh reports that 61% of urban rapists felt no remorse due to social views on women and over 95% of reported rapes led to no convictions.
Well, the stronger rapes the weaker, and most rapists are heterosexual. This should tell you why most rapists are men. There are råpe laws, they should be followed.

Even though women are rising in the workplace, sexualsexual harassment is still thriving as a way to play a power game between genders. Over 50% of women report being sexually harassed at work.
Well, man must toast women.

[Sex trading and forced prostitution are still a dominating business on a global scale.
Young boys are also being bought and sold as sex slaves worldwide. This isn't peculiar to the female gender.

quoteThe media still promotes women as sexual objects dependent on men.If the media does this, they are only following the leading of women themselves. All we need do is take a cursory look at millions if social media accounts to get a glimpse into how women really see themselves. As they say, art imitates life.

Women face inferior stereotypes socially, but that is the whole article in itself.
What does this even mean?

Wage disparity is real and women are paid less than men for the same jobs with the same degrees.
Lies. The wage gap has been debunked as an insidious myth. I challenge you to prove that women are paid less than men anywhere in this world. I will give you a full year to make your research and come up with such a situation.

Women are pressured by looks. Look at the makeup industry and how much women pay to get the “flawless natural" look to conform.
Women pressure themselves to look good for the best possible mate. This isn't society's fault, these women know they have to look good to attract men. The makeup industry is making a killing because women want to outdo their peers in the attraction department.

Tozara:
WHY do you assume that she was specifically refering to YOU?

shaybebaby:
If the shoe fits and all that.

Daeylar:
Nice thread blackmanta
Don't let anybody distract you with some ridiculous arguments or their attention seeking antics or make you lose your cool,
You've made your point, and it was a brilliant one,


Whining babies everywhere on this thread.
tired of the topic of this thread, but yet cannot ignore.
Wants certain topics to be discussed yet cannot open a thread to discuss it,
Yet still feel they can question anyone on the topic they wish to create.
It's their choice to open a thread on what they want,
You don't control them.

Whining on someone's thread about which topic they should create, if you really feel that a topic should be discussed, stop whining and create the thread yourself.

BlackManta:



So you think gender equality is about being equal in every aspect including nature?!

You are wrong!

When i talk about gender equality, i'm talking about equal rights,equal treatment,justice and fairness to both genders.
Absence of discrimination and stigmatisation,equal oppourtunity etc.

There are natural imbalance.
I'm aware of that.

That is why a pregnant woman cannot have equal work hours with men simply because of equality.
It cannot work.

Feminist understands natural imbalance and it does bring limitations to gender equality.

But in a case where equality is possible and necessary, feminist will fight for it.

On the issue of rape and domestic violence, i know that men are stronger, that is why it happens.

But do you think we should let it happen cuz men are strong?

Never.

That is why feminism is necessary.
Feminism is not just about gender equality, it is about empowering women and defending them.
It is about promoting justice and fairness.

Rapist should be given stronger jail term, domestic violence must be discouraged.
Women must be empowered and enlightened to know their rights.

This is what feminist are fighting for.
Feminist will never advice a woman to beat or stab her abusive husband just because of equality.
NO.

Feminism discourages men from beating and raping women because they are weaker sex.

DO NOT TREAT A WOMAN LIKE TRASH SIMPLY BECAUSE SHE IS PHYSICALLY WEAKER.

This is what feminist emphasise on and they fight for rights of women and promote justice and fairness.

If you think feminism is about gender equality in every aspect, then you are wrong.

Feminist recognize natural imbalance and they fight for equality,justice and fairness where possible and necessary.

BlackManta:


Get a new dictionary.
Feminazi is a word recognized by lexicologist.
If you cant find it in your dictionary, look it up on google.
You'll find it there with it's meaning and correct proununciation just like you'll find it in dictionary.
Go and update you dictionary or get a better one.

A feminazi means...Radical Feminist.,an extremist feminist and fundamentalist.

It's not a new word, i dont know you never heard of it.
You are obviously new to the concept of feminism.

You dont understand the very concept of feminism talkless of feminazi.

That is why you think feminists are men bashers like Emily Lindin.

Many men dont understand feminism including you.
That is why i created this thread to explain feminism in clear terms and debunk major misconceptions.

I clearly differentiated feminism from feminazi, i guess you skipped that part.

Maybe you read the article half heartedly and never eager to understand it.

Tozara:
What's on OUR minds? Do you realize there are MALE feminists? Isn't BlackManta a MALE? Are you saying the self-centered, awfully biased, man-hating, woman-centric rubbish being promoted by that bitçh, whatever her name is, is what is ON OUR MINDS? A man who hates himself? That's ridiculous.

By the way, the No True Scotsman fallacy is some rubbish. Everything has a DEFINITION, and every definition has a BOUNDARY. If you do not fit into that definition, or you exceed its boundary, then you're not that thing---no matter how much you claim to be.

Calling yourself Napoleon doesn't make you Napoleon.

shaybebaby:
If the shoe fits and all that.

Ranchhoddas:
What is the boundary in this case?
Who gets to set this boundary?

Ranchhoddas:
My attempt at sarcasm was lost on you apparently and my point as a result. I know what it means.

But you skipped my question altogether; is there a feminist rulebook? What would a "true feminist" do to become a feminazi?

Emily Lindin was a true feminist, vocal and a darling of the American feminist community?
One tweet and she's feminazi? How does that work?
If Adichie for example does same, would she automatically become feminazi?

Daeylar:

BlackManta:


Is there anything exaggerating about feminism?
Is there any atom of unfair generalization in my article?

I'm not on the MEN ARE SCUM crew.
I dont hate all men...just the bad ones that maltreat women.
I did not generalize.

You obviously have feminism confused with feminazi.
Cuz feminazi is the extreme and exagerated one not feminism.

I have followed the Kevin Spacey and Harvey Weinstein.
I condemn sexual harassment even if the victim is male.
Sexual harassment affect women more and i know than men can be victims too.
Either of sexual harassment or false accusation.
I totally condemn it.
I'm a man and i know what it feels like to be falsely accused of sexual harassment.

Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey are guilty and should face criticism.

Emily Lindin is a feminazi not a feminist.
You obviously have feminazi confused with feminism.

Feminism is a balanced concept.
It is not extreme,exagerated of generalized.
Feminism does not support injustice against men on the issue of gender.

Feminazi is an extreme and perversed version of feminism.
Emily Lindin is only hiding under the cover of feminism.
Many feminazis claim to be feminist but they are not.

There is a difference between feminism and feminazi.
Don get it confused.

True feminism does not support injustice against men.

Perhaps i will make a thread and explain the differences between feminism and feminazi.

I condemn Emily Lindin.
A true feminist would do the same.

Martin0:



I believ you talking about ridiculous argument based on my quote towards you

Martin0:

Martin0:


for ya mind now u dey drink fanta abi

Com ooo u nor even ask about ur friend shay-queen

Daeylar:


No,

Eh eh ok oo





Lol, the tongue is red abi

commot eee


Shay shay is enjoying herself, I think

Martin0:


Na wa for u ooo women nor dey enjoy for weekends na, u don forget as weekend tinz dey be for una

Daeylar:


Shaybebaby , please I don't understand what Martin is saying, can you help

shaybebaby:

Sorry boo, I'm just as confused as you are.

I speak very little martinese.

Ranchhoddas:
This is not even funny.

Daeylar:


He should come and translate

Daeylar:


Shaybebaby , please I don't understand what Martin is saying, can you help

shaybebaby:

Don't know where he is hiding.


How's your weekend going? I see you holding down the forte on intellectual debates. Well done chick.

Didn't know you were fiery like this.