Victornezzar:

And with ur spirit too boss

Amen!

elrony:
Oasis007 please tell Mou that if he and his band of merry men underachieve this season, he'll get thrown out with immediate alacrity!

JM still experimenting Options to balance the Team Play. He's gonna get the right Option, probably in the next Game.

Chill Bro!

Oasis007:




JM still experimenting Options to balance the Team Play. He's gonna get the right Option, probably in the next Game.

Chill Bro!

I no get light

raumdeuter:


Man Utd in that lineup have no plan to attack PSG, they only bank on goals from long balls towards Rashford or Lukaku and Isolating them vs the PSG backling or through deadballs since he has about 6players over 6ft (Lukaku, Rashford Fellaini, Matic, Pogba Smalling

This was the lineup Chelsea used to beat Barca in 2012
Iva-Terry Cahiil cole
-Mikel-Lampard-Meireles
--Mata--Drogba Ramires


Where is the width in that lineup, Is there anyone as pacey as Rashford in that lineup
This team was coached by DiMatteo and beat Guardiola the greatest active attacking coach, SO are you saying Mourinho the owner of parking the bus manual cannot pull this against Emery

Chelsea won through lady luck, we were outplayed badly. Tactically, we were sodomized, same thing I'm pointing out in your manyoo line-up vs PSG.

Deploying such tactic against a complete side would only see you bank on lady luck to scale through, as there flaws in it that will be exploited.

A 4-5-1 is even your best bet at getting something against a team that is highly better. Make things difficult for them in the middle, have your men behind the ball, play to reject space, then hit them on the counters. Just the Jose way.

Lukaku is being underutilized

I remember when he was having similar problems at Everton when the team was always passing to feet and not giving him the ball quick enough, then Koeman signed Bolasie and moved him into the hole to run at defenders and create spave

I think Lukaku scored in like 7 or 8 straighf games after that.

The boy thrives on those one time sharp direct balls delivered when he's hanging on shoulder of the last man. These days he's playing so deep to touch the ball And is almost never in the box.

Nihilist:
Lukaku is being underutilized

I remember when he was having similar problems at Everton when the team was always passing to feet and not giving him the ball quick enough, then Koeman signed Bolasie and moved him into the hole to run at defenders and create spave

I think Lukaku scored in like 7 or 8 straighf games after that.

The boy thrives on those one time sharp direct balls delivered when he's hanging on shoulder of the last man. These days he's playing so deep to touch the ball And is almost never in the box.

When he has a coach like moanrimhoe..... : What do you expect?

Leyqute:
One glaring problem with our overall play is our off+the-ball movement. We hardly make intelligent rums, don't utilise space, and of the top 6 teams we are the laziest.

That's why we've been struggling.

God bless you, you definitely know your football...Mata is been blamed on here when in all honesty, everyone was subpar, our off the ball movement is just about the worst in the league and that's solely down to the coach and his methods, I look at Man City, I see the imprints of Pep tactics and style, same with Chelsea and Conte, Poch and Spurs etc at this point, if Mou leaves and a new manager comes in, he's going to start all over from zero cos there's absolutely nothing to build upon in our utter lethargic play...

patrickmuf:
God bless you, you definitely know your football...Mata is been blamed on here when in all honesty, everyone was subpar, our off the ball movement is just about the worst in the league and that's solely down to the coach and his methods, I look at Man City, I see the imprints of Pep tactics and style, same with Chelsea and Conte, Poch and Spurs etc at this point, if Mou leaves and a new manager comes in, he's going to start all over from zero cos there's absolutely nothing to build upon in our utter lethargic play...

We have been shouting this since last year. There's absolutely nothing to build from in this team if Jose should leave, the next manager starts from zero. Very poor movements by our midfielders and attackers when not with the ball, I just wonder what they do in training

patrickmuf:
God bless you, you definitely know your football...Mata is been blamed on here when in all honesty, everyone was subpar, our off the ball movement is just about the worst in the league and that's solely down to the coach and his methods, I look at Man City, I see the imprints of Pep tactics and style, same with Chelsea and Conte, Poch and Spurs etc at this point, if Mou leaves and a new manager comes in, he's going to start all over from zero cos there's absolutely nothing to build upon in our utter lethargic play...

you're quite right about our off d ball movement being poor,but don't you think comparing our team with Chelsea,spurs at this point in time is overly critical?we have actually outscored those teams,you know for all d criticism this team faces,its only city that has outscored us..yes,the match yesterday was an eyesore but the 3 points were very very vital..I still think the coaches influence is only as good as d personnel,can't you see pogbas and matic quality in the team,d few minutes that ibra had,you couldn't compare it to what that bush baby Mata served us,you cud c d linkup btw pog nd ibra..

united fans are actually deluded to thinking we have a fantastic squad,we just have a squad of deadweights

elampiro:


First, you don't understand my point. We were poor, but we were terribly poor when those two left.

Secondly, 4 chances is big. Sometimes players like De Brunye create same number of chances in a match.

I don't think you mean clear-cut chances because we didn't really create many yesterday. There's nothing fantastic about creating 4 half chances against Brighton, a newly promoted team.

We lacked bite when those two were there, we lacked bite when they left. Poor is poor. White is white, and black is black.

dubylhover:


you're quite right about our off d ball movement being poor,but don't you think comparing our team with Chelsea,spurs at this point in time is overly critical?we have actually outscored those teams,you know for all d criticism this team faces,its only city that has outscored us..yes,the match yesterday was an eyesore but the 3 points were very very vital..I still think the coaches influence is only as good as d personnel,can't you see pogbas and matic quality in the team,d few minutes that ibra had,you couldn't compare it to what that bush baby Mata served us,you cud c d linkup btw pog nd ibra..

united fans are actually deluded to thinking we have a fantastic squad,we just have a squad of deadweights

That we are outscoring isn't a pointer to our dominance or collective strength, most of our play is reliant on moments of individual brilliance and when Martial/Rashford/Pogba have a bad game or are tightly marked, we suffer...
Talking about personnel, I think we have got a far superior team to Spurs, Arsenal, Liverpool and we are on par with Chelsea so it's definitely not the personnel...Off the ball movement has nothing to do with personnel, it has everything to do with training and the methods emplyed by the coach, yesterday, we were poor defensively, we couldn't control the game and we didn't create enough chances and to be honest, it's not the first time we've been subpar this season...

Must be painful to watch Man Utd these days.
Jose Mourinho is basically a rich man's Tony Pulis

The notion of Utd being considered in any way a threat to the league leaders is comical, if not insulting. They are a rich man's West Brom at best these days

ManU should be grateful and appreciate Mou oh, when was the last time ManU was 2nd in the EPL table after 13games. Yes Mou spent alot more than previous managers and has a better team than the past 5seasons. The gap and performance of Man City is what is causing most of this complains.

Vanquay:
MOURINHO is such a Shìt manager.

Well, he's a rich man's Tony Pulis

patrickmuf:
God bless you, you definitely know your football...Mata is been blamed on here when in all honesty, everyone was subpar, our off the ball movement is just about the worst in the league and that's solely down to the coach and his methods, I look at Man City, I see the imprints of Pep tactics and style, same with Chelsea and Conte, Poch and Spurs etc at this point, if Mou leaves and a new manager comes in, he's going to start all over from zero cos there's absolutely nothing to build upon in our utter lethargic play...

Exactly. You hardly see our attackers making a dash off the shoulder of a defender when we are attacking in the opponent's half. Mourinho started from lvl zero and like Moyes and LvG before they left he's still at lvl zero.

Chelsea, spurs and Liverpool are better than United, but united is above them in the table and have outscored them all conceding less. Good logic.

dubylhover:


you're quite right about our off d ball movement being poor,but don't you think comparing our team with Chelsea,spurs at this point in time is overly critical?we have actually outscored those teams,you know for all d criticism this team faces,its only city that has outscored us..yes,the match yesterday was an eyesore but the 3 points were very very vital..I still think the coaches influence is only as good as d personnel,can't you see pogbas and matic quality in the team,d few minutes that ibra had,you couldn't compare it to what that bush baby Mata served us,you cud c d linkup btw pog nd ibra..

united fans are actually deluded to thinking we have a fantastic squad,we just have a squad of deadweights

so after 2years with Mourinho and the amount we have spent we still have dead weights in the team.

I am assuming when you say DEADWEIGHTS that would be at least half of the team.

who in your opinion is responsible for this?

BlueAngel444:
ManU should be grateful and appreciate Mou oh, when was the last time ManU was 2nd in the EPL table after 13games. Yes Mou spent alot more than previous managers and has a better team than the past 5seasons. The gap and performance of Man City is what is causing most of this complains.

Leave that thing, I know city have not won anything yet but it has taken just 2years for pep to make this city team feared both in the league and Europe.

city and PSG are the 2 teams anyone would fear to face based on current form.

when teams are to face man u they are confident that they can take their chances with us because we are lethargic and have no fear factor whatsoever. even when we eventually win against the likes of Brighton, it is laboured.

the lethargic displays are becoming too consistent and if we Dont improve we will end up fighting for 4th place by the end of the season.

I think it's easier to identify United major Problem which is Laziness. The Players are too lazy to make quick and accurate Passes, too lazy on and off the Ball, finally too lazy to create chances through the Middle in the Final Third.

United need a Player(s) who can confidently attack from the Middle, coz it's getting obvious United style of Play can't break a defensive- minded Team.

Also we need Players on the right Wing who can take on Player(s) successful, coz its apparent Rashford, Lingard or Mata ain't the right Person for the Job.

I don't care how much JM would spend to fix the Team, after all PSG paid an Amount that can buy a whole Team like Arsenal to get Neymar, yet World didn't end.

United need Players like - Dybala on the Right Wing, Griezmann behind Lukaku or probably Ozil.... to play in the Hole. I hope JM gets it right in the Summer, coz I do not trust January Transfers Window.

Oasis007:
I think it's easier to identify United major Problem which is Laziness. The Players are too lazy to make quick and accurate Passes, too lazy on and off the Ball, finally too lazy to create chances through the Middle in the Final Third.

United need a Player(s) who can confidently attack from the Middle, coz it's getting obvious United style of Play can't break a defensive- minded Team.

Also we need Players on the right Wing who can take on Player(s) successful, coz its apparent Rashford, Lingard or Mata ain't the right Person for the Job.

I don't care how much JM would spend to fix the Team, after all PSG paid an Amount that can buy a whole Team like Arsenal to get Neymar, yet World didn't end.

United need Players like - Dybala on the Right Wing, Griezmann behind Lukaku or probably Ozil.... to play in the Hole. I hope JM gets it right in the Summer, coz I do not trust January Transfers Window.

We need to fix our LB, RW & RB positions and then the No. 10 position.. Valencia is very poor when it comes to attacking. He's decision making at the final third is amateurish. He's 32 ffs. Young isn't a LB. We need a real left back. If we can get those positions fixed we will be alright.

Leyqute:


I don't think you mean clear-cut chances because we didn't really create many yesterday. There's nothing fantastic about creating 4 half chances against Brighton, a newly promoted team.

We lacked bite when those two were there, we lacked bite when they left. Poor is poor. White is white, and black is black.

Tell me any team in the word that can consistently create average of 4 clear cut chances in a match. Even our title winning team of 2012/2013 couldn't create average of 4 clear cut chances in a match.

You no know ball jor

You asked how many chances they created and I gave you the statistics from match stats.

Also poor is not poor. No one could bite at all after the younger duo left the the pitch. At least we carried the ball into opposition 18 box area frequently when the two played, Rashford even provided a cross to Lukaku where he should have reasonable score according to Phil Neville and co at half time. After they left, we could not even hold play.

BlueAngel444:
ManU should be grateful and appreciate Mou oh, when was the last time ManU was 2nd in the EPL table after 13games. Yes Mou spent alot more than previous managers and has a better team than the past 5seasons. The gap and performance of Man City is what is causing most of this complains.

I agree.

The difference between Guardiola and Mourinho is the stability and quality of team inherited.

elampiro:


Tell me any team in the word that can consistently create average of 4 clear cut chances in a match. Even our title winning team of 2012/2013 couldn't create average of 4 clear cut chances in a match.

You no know ball jor

You asked how many chances they created and I gave you the statistics from match stats.

Also poor is not poor. No one could bite at all after the younger duo left the the pitch. At least we carried the ball into opposition 18 box area frequently when the two played, Rashford even provided a cross to Lukaku where he should have reasonable score according to Phil Neville and co at half time. After they left, we could not even hold play.

Barcelona consistently creates clear cut chances in their matches. Madrid, PSG, Man City all create clear cut chances in almost all of their matches nowadays.

I'm not saying those two are horrible players, what I'm saying is that they were poor in the game yesterday, especially Rashford, like most of their team mates.

After they left the prevailing sentiment was to just see the game out to the end and claim the three points, just like in the match against Basel. Their presence in the game wouldn't have changed this sentiment.

elampiro:


I agree.

The difference between Guardiola and Mourinho is the stability and quality of team inherited.

The stability we see now is good especially when we consider where have been in recent years after SAF left.

But i still believe Mourinho should have made better impact on the team.

being 2nd on the log now that s good but if we continue putting up lethargic displays like what we are seeing we will live to regret it.

we were toe to toe with city looking like we and city would run away with league, although early but little by little we dropped from 1st to 2nd and the chasing pack Vought up with us. if not for the drawn games by Chelsea, Liverpool and Tottenham this week that has made it OK we would have been totally closed up.

we have to rely on CITY to drop points today for our win to really have full impact on the table.

CapitalCee:
Chelsea, spurs and Liverpool are better than United, but united is above them in the table and have outscored them all conceding less. Good logic.

Valencia is above Madrid in Spain, Inter and Napoli are above Juve in Italy but does it in anyway mean they are better? It's this lines you people come up with that's masking our very disappointing displays.

codedguy1:


so after 2years with Mourinho and the amount we have spent we still have dead weights in the team.

I am assuming when you say DEADWEIGHTS that would be at least half of the team.

who in your opinion is responsible for this?

Thank you, you talk about dead weights as if it is our fault and not Mou, Pep met Kolarov, Clichy, Fernando, Sagna etc and he replaced them with players who are not only younger but better, Walker, Mendy, Bernado Silva, Danilo and his other buys are doing great, Sane, Gundogan etc. Mou has no excuse, we still have the so-called dead weights because he thinks they can do a job...

patrickmuf:
Valencia is above Madrid in Spain, Inter and Napoli are above Juve in Italy but does it in anyway mean they are better? It this lines you people come up with that's making masking our very disappointing displays.

I just tire.

patrickmuf:
Thank you, you talk about dead weights as if it is our fault and not Mou, Pep met Kolarov, Clichy, Fernando, Sagna etc and he replaced them with players who are not only younger but better, Walker, Mendy, Bernado Silva, Danilo and his other buys are doing great, Sane, Gundogan etc. Mou has no excuse, we still have the so-called dead weights because he thinks they can do a job...

mou has no fucking excuse.

it is we start struggling to qualify for champs that's when people eyes go open.

the lethargic and lackadaisical approach we display is actually irritating to the eyes.

its just annoying and please Dont let the fact that we are 2nd on the log deceive anybody.

Leyqute:


Barcelona consistently creates clear cut chances in their matches. Madrid, PSG, Man City all create clear cut chances in almost all of their matches nowadays.

I'm not saying those two are horrible players, what I'm saying is that they were poor in the game yesterday, especially Rashford, like most of their team mates.

After they left the prevailing sentiment was to just see the game out to the end and claim the three points, just like in the match against Basel. Their presence in the game wouldn't have changed this sentiment.

It seems you don't know clear cut chances are counted. No team in the world is able to create many in a match on the average.

patrickmuf:
Valencia is above Madrid in Spain, Inter and Napoli are above Juve in Italy but does it in anyway mean they are better? It's this lines you people come up with that's masking our very disappointing displays.

1.What does being above someone in the table mean?
2. On what ground do you think Spurs, Chelsea and Liverpool are better than united this season?

elampiro:


It seems you don't know clear cut chances are counted. No team in the world is able to create many in a match on the average.

You don't know what you are saying, Elampiro. You no know ball.

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Lana1:
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