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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by nairanaira12: 1:25pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
OBAGADAFFI: This is not a question of whether he has done anything for the church or not. It is a question of the verity and truthfulness of the doctrines your pastors are preaching. God won't judge you in heaven by what you did for his church or by the number of miracles you perform on earth. He will judge you by your faithfulness to his Word and commandments. How many of your pastors are following God's word? How many of them will enter heaven if they should die today? Daddy freeze challenged them based on the scriptures. Why do they find it difficult to counter his challenges via the scriptures? Maybe it's because their doctrines aren't biblical. Maybe it's because they are teaching you guys errors, heresies, and blasphemies coated in the superfluity of words and big grammars originating from the doctrine of men. And you too are swallowing it because it sounds sweet and impressive to your hearings. You don't care if what they teach is biblical or not as long as it sounds sweet. And do you know what God said about your pastors that are teaching you errors for their personal gain? He said it is better that they were not born.... He also said it is better for a grinding stone to be hung around their necks and throw them into the sea to drown. What you've done for the church doesn't matter. What matters is the truthfulness of your teachings as a pastor. 4 Likes |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by emmanuelewumi(m): 1:26pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
generaliy: You know why the pastorprenuers have large followers, it is also written in the Bible 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by merbenko: 1:26pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Horlufemi:Nice piece bro |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by babablogger: 1:26pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
generaliy:I never said paying tithe is wrong But tithes is not limited to the church alone Read your bible Levites,widows, orphans 2 Likes |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Mpanyi: 1:27pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Thought you had something intelligent to say but I was disappointed. Whenever you people want to talk church thus church that, name the churches or the prayer houses or whatever. You can't lump my church catholic with others. You can't lump anglican and other churches that have been there for ages with the so called churches that started just yesterday, that don't know yet why they came into being at first place. 1 Like |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Originalsly: 1:28pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
generaliy:@Op...help me understand.... how do you know Freeze (or any other man) is a backsliding man (moving away from God).. and not a man that is being drawn closer to God? ....and how do you know he has fallen from the faith?... fallen from the faith meaning his faith in God?.... and who are you referring to as the non-believing wretched sinners?...the show time pastors?...or Freeze and those who share his view? and on a personal note...did God take back his word and allow you to pass judgement on people?...or you took that exclusive duty away from God? You opened your mouth and have a whole lot to say..... can you open it again and clear the air on what you said by answering my few questions? Feel free to dodge them by pretending you didn't read my comment. When you can't attack the message....attack the messenger. Feel free to. 4 Likes |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by pek(m): 1:28pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Very wrong premise. Daddy Freeze is not and will never be the problem of Christianity! Every Christian needs the Bible as his guide. Unfortunately, Christians will rather tell you my pastor said. Pathetic. 3 Likes |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by generaliy: 1:30pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
chloedogie: FUTA, why ask? |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by bidahjay: 1:31pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Daddy Freeze has scored more points than all of you together, he states the Bible reference for all the points raised, you guys are attacking him , with insults, emotion and abuse without countering his argument with the Bible chapters and verses. God can use anything to start a revival, is not in your place to judge Daddy Freeze, let God do the judging. If you cannot show me in the Bible where Jesus or the early apostles received tithe, then don't tell me about it,because i am not under the Jewish law. Even in today's Israel, tithing has been abolished because the Levitical tribe that collect tithe is one of the lost tribes of Israel. If we must pay tithe according the law of Moses, then we must keep the Sabbath holy and fulfill all other requirements of the law. Jesus has fulfill the requirements of the law, and every giving must be by love and as a man purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of a necessity.... go and look for the meaning of these words by Apostle Paul. I stand with Daddy Freeze, proof me wrong with the Bible. Good bless you and happy Sunday! 6 Likes |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by OBAGADAFFI: 1:31pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
An2elect2: LOL, They single handedly brought poeple out from the Occultism and sinfully lifestyle. Kumuyi is a known preacher of holiness and Adeboye is know for his holy spirit massages. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Afonjanightmare(m): 1:32pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
generaliy: Look at the fool with traces of civility, you think you would just type trash against someone I cherish so much in Christianity and go Scot free? Daddy freeze is a Yoruba man so forget about bigotry and jingoism, we are all Christians but few of us intricately understand the word of God, because someone condemned Tithing and offerings with enough proof and evidence you are attacking him but praising criminals who tell you that if you don't pay tithe you would die (Oyedepo 1:36). 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Nobody: 1:33pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
He realized he's been told lies all his life, just like all of us and decided to be smart again. 1 Like |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by successinlife: 1:33pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Take it or leave it,Freeze is a biased fellow.Nigeria is having challenges in all facets of life,religion,administration,sports,development and all.I am not in a situation to judge him or the churches on tithes.My problem with Freeze is that he thinks he is superior because of his mixed race.I listened to him once saying that he pitied Nigeria basketball team after the 2012 Olympics because of the record created with the team by USA team,on another ocassion he talks about the development in Romania as compared to Nigeria. I know Romanian history more than Freeze,They have not qualified or played in any basketball world cup or in olympics since their existence ,cote a cote in football considering our unseriousness,bad administration etc,with due respect Romania is never in the same rank in the world of sports,any of the sport at all.Is it not the Romanian gypsies chased away by every country in Europe seeking survival?they are so backward that they prefer building make shifts buildings inside the bush and never go to school.His arrogance was part of why basket mouth blast him saying he is light because of eczema and he is not a white guy.Another gypsy in Ghana is causing similar uproar,to the extent of showing his manhood on public television programme just to proove he doesn't wear underwear.Whatever is making him to fight or argue on tithe is not my problem.The issue i have with him is that he should respect african insitution and fight for it's growth and not sabotage where he is getting his daily bread,is he even known in Romania?this is why i respect most of the half casts that wear Naija colours,they could have turned the country down because of lack of proper machinery but they look at the positive side of things and decide to contribute their quote to the development of their father land. If Freeze were to be Bob Marley,he would have attached himself to the side of his oyinbo father and jettisoned fighting the course of the black men,rather Bob Marley saw the injustice and stood for the mother black race in him. Freeze should stop his unguided utterances and count himself lucky to be among us. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Abudu2000(m): 1:34pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
WomanOfRace:the pastors are even begging him not to spoil business, have you watched the video one said "if we are broke we can't preach" ![]() Or should we talk about the one who wanted to rearrange the Bible ![]() ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by kense88: 1:35pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by OBAGADAFFI: 1:39pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
nairanaira12: It's part of God's commandments to preach the gospel and grow the Church. The church herself was built by Jesus Christ. You cannot tell A Holiness Preacher like W.F. Kumuyi is preaching false doctrines, while freeze who spend all his life in show biz is preaching the truth. Anyone can qoute the Bible to justify thier stand. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Horlufemi(m): 1:40pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
chloedogie: Oh yes judge me. I'm a filthy sinner. I don't have boss. I am the boss ![]() |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Pataricatering(f): 1:41pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Daddy freeze has provided biblical backing for everything he preaches yet every man of god that has spoken on this issue has based their arguments on sentiments and conjecture same as the op is doing . You are simply proving yourself averse to your bible and innovating based on the whims of men of God who have now become your gods! You are lost . 1 Like |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Pataricatering(f): 1:43pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Anyone can quote the Bible Yet your so-called men of God have not been able to come up with scriptural backing for their voracious appetite for tithes? OBAGADAFFI: 3 Likes |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Nobody: 1:43pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
This op must be one of those that worship man instead of God. Gullible christians have fallen prey to dubious pastors. How many imams and alfas have private jets and higher institutions? Op format your brain and reason well abeg. 1 Like |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Jethrolite(m): 1:45pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
generaliy:Who paid you to write that rubbish up there. People like you better be careful how you handle daddyfreeze because you will create hate towards the church and God. How do you know Daddy Freeze is backsliding? Enlightenment has come and I advise you step aside rather than try to oppose. If those appointed to do the work have failed, God will pick whoever He pleases to get things right. You guys are always quick to judge the man because he has a failed marriage. David and Solomon did far worse than daddyfreeze but David is the man after God's heart. If David and Solomon lived today, people like you will still oppose and judge them. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by obailala(m): 1:46pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
generaliy:Freeze might not be a Christian, but you certainly deceive yourself if you claim that what he preaches isn't directly from the bible. 1 Like |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by beautyoftheLord: 1:46pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
OP can you do an extensive research on tithing! I mean read the whole of Malachai and not just 3 v 9- 10. Then all other books in the bible on tithing. And also old Jewish (Isreal) history. Go back and study. We are Christians not Jews. We are followers of Christ.. Christians are redeemed from the curse of the law. Christ hung to set you free. No more blood of animals for atonement of sins(aaronic law). The truth is 10% is too small to give back to God. When you give your life to God your all is his. Your 100%. With the guidance of the Holy Spirit He shows you how to spend God's money. People are happy cause they feel they no longer have to tithe. In reality the whole earnings belong to Him now plus you. The Holy Spirit is far from men now. Sad! But I think the church is undergoing a revolution. A new revival! Who is the Greatest in the kingdom of God. The servant of all. Do you think our pastors today are the Greatest in the kingdom of God? PS: your write-up was good. The things of the spirit are foolish to the carnal mind. Hard truth is churches worshipping God in Spirit and in truth will stand tall without tithes. The "rest"will fall. Let the revolution begin. 1 Like |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by An2elect2(f): 1:47pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
OBAGADAFFI:Your first statement is ridiculous but how would you know? The fact is no man can do any of that. No man can bring anyone out of occultism or sinful lifestyle except Christ through His death on the cross and by His will. Kumuyi is reverred for preaching morality. Holiness is different from morality. You cant preach holiness without the finished work of Christ on the cross. Holiness is one of the fruits of the gospel of the cross and not a distinctive message anyone was called to preach. We are to preach Christ that defines everything not "holiness" What kind of holyspirit does he preach about that has no respect for biblical truths, Adeboye? There are so many spirits and false christs. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by nairanaira12: 1:48pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
OBAGADAFFI: It is either you are a half-baked Christian, a new comer Christian or you are just arguing blindly. So because daddy freeze is in showbiz, your pastors are holier than him? Your comment is stupid to say the list. Grow the church all you want, preach righteousness all you want, you will still go to hell fire if you add any ungodly doctrine, no matter how little. Pastor adeboye made an analogy sometimes ago. He said adding just a drop of urine to a tank of pure water has rendered that water completely impure. You must be some unserious Christian if you expect me to explain the meaning of that to you. |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by papiwyte(m): 1:49pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Ishilove: 1:51pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
justseyi:I concur. Generaliy wrote a very fantastic article on this freeze issue |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by orisa37: 1:51pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
The Lord is not confused.
He instructs His Apostles The way they should go and directs them sovereignly. |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by InvertedHammer: 1:52pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
From the beginning of time, the Bible talked about false prophets. Because they are ignorant, gullible and naive, christians in Nigeria act like they never read those parts of the Bible not even when some acclaimed men of God are caught pursuing mundane materials, raping children, fornicating, engaging in adultery and idolatory, and other vices. The biggest threat to christianity is the stupidity of Nigerian christians popularly known as the sheepies. Most of them are not in it for grace or salvation. They are in it for the pursuit of wealth and break from the bondage of poverty as deceived by fraudulent pastorpreneurs. / |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Zivaharry(m): 1:52pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
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