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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by OBAGADAFFI: 3:12pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Jsaviour: Cool down, Thier is not freeze is saying, that hasn't been said before. Most Professor, Doctors, and enlighten people attending Church and giving Tithes and offerings aren't in cages. No new Revelation is going to shock anyone, as their is nothing new under the sun. |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by steve6: 3:14pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Valid points raised. |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Nobody: 3:16pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
stagger: But but you listen to Oyakilohme abi. Hypocrisy at its finest 3 Likes |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by chloedogie(m): 3:17pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Horlufemi: I'm not judging you. I'm just telling you that you made a disrespectful statement. If I were you, I will take back my words and apologize. Social media is a blind date but whatever you can't say to the face of the person you are addressing, you shouldn't say it online. I still have a father(though very old), but I can't call my father a hoe. And if I can't call mine a hoe, why would I call someone else's father one? You don't need to be abusive to make your point known. Just be objective. |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Nobody: 3:18pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
OBAGADAFFI: But those professors will fvck the ladies and fails their students. The doctors will forget their oaths and demand money before treating patients. They will then pay tithe to in their respective churches, who are they decieving ? 1 Like |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by datribune: 3:24pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
osomegbe: Last time I checked Pastors Chris Oyakhilome & Okotie divorced their wives. How about that?. Ar they also blind leading d blind?. By d way pity urself b4 pitying those who hav refused to be manipulated by these Pastorpreneurs 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by harmeadA(m): 3:24pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
It is more painful to see supposed Christians carried away by "Every wind of doctrine", making a shipwreck of their faith after reading a few well crafted doctrinal errors laced with generous overdose of heresies. Just like your write up is a well crafted doctrinal errors laced with generous overdose of heresies in a bid to avoid the striking truth right before your eyes.... You may have you way with words but the facts still remain facts , there's something wrong with the way Nigerian pastors run churches and the earlier you come to terms with that ,the better for you... 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Jsaviour(f): 3:29pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
OBAGADAFFI: That everyone is doing something doens't make it right or haven't you heard of educated illiterates?. That learned people do it doens't still make it right. Nobody said you shouldn't pay tithe, but don't coarse people with fear to join you which is what you guys have been doing ever since. Just calm down, the things to come will shock you. I bet you, what most of you do is religious practices like the Pharisees and not spirituality. If hypocrisy were to be a place, it would be Nigeria's federal capital territory. 1 Like |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by senatoradeolaa: 3:32pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Africa is truly a dark continent. Have we as ourselves if the religion brought to us by our colonial master is been practice same way. May opinion is that we as a people have let the brain given to us my the Almighty God to question when we feel like. If a Muslim that don't pay tithe can be prosperous and rich and the Christians that pay all the tithe remain poor and the pastor fat on. God does not spend money but human do. I will allow my conscience guide and lead me. Not one rotten person who fool people by saying they r men of God. May God continue to open our eyes and mind to know the truth. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by senatoradeolaa: 3:34pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Africa is truly a dark continent. Have we asked ourselves if the religion brought to us by our colonial master is been practice same way. May opinion is that we as a people have let the brain given to us my the Almighty God to question when we feel like stopped working. If a Muslim that don't pay tithe can be prosperous and rich and the Christians that pay all the tithe remain poor and the pastor fat on then it makes not common sense. God does not spend money but human do so be wise. I will allow my conscience guide and lead me. Not one rotten person who fool people by saying they r men of God. May God continue to open our eyes and mind to know the truth. |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by derecho(m): 3:35pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
So what will proving it do to you?Make you change your mind,abi?If you are convinced about not paying it CONTINUE...So convincing or arguing about Tithes and offering is now the ministry of reconciliation? Why can't we drop this controversy and face Weightier issues...what do we hope to gain other than insult people. Enough has been said about Tithes already. Many of us believe it and will continue to believe it.Tithe is one of the ways we give to God and we owe Him our All. Why some of us got involved in the discus was we thought we could reason together but I have seen through the motive. Beloved, we can do more with God's grace in our life than wasting our time on this profitless venture.What about telling of God's ONLY BEGOTTEN SON,JESUS? What about advising Churchgoers to flee youthful lusts,What about advising against Divorce? If you free the sheeples from paying tithes but they give 40% as offering voluntarily and remain in Sin what have you achieved? Just ask yourself what do I hope to gain?Will Jesus be lifted high or I just want to showoff?Think ,God can't be Mocked...He Still looks at the intent. God help us all vislabraye: |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by BluntBoy(m): 3:37pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
nkemdi89: Even under the Law, not everyone tithed. You people should just try and study your Bible. Tithing was land based and not income based. You were to tithe from your harvest (increase) and it was either food or livestock. The poor didn't tithe. Carpenters, fishermen, servants, hirelings, hired farmers, slaves, etc, were never obligated to tithe. If these people under the Law did not tithe, how come Christians who are not under the Law are obligated to? The Bible was specific about what to tithe. The emphasis was on land based increase and never on money. The only consideration with money was the issue of redeeming because of the burden of carrying the tithes. And this came with a penalty of an extra 20%. This should tell you that tithes were not income based but land based. 1 Like |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by datribune: 3:38pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Check this out. Five of d Ten richest Pastors in d entire world ar Nigerian Pastorpreneurs. Richest pastor in the world: 1 T.D Jakes. * 2 David Oyedepo. ... * 3 Enoch Adeboye. ... 4 Benny Hinn. ... * 5 Chris Oyakhilome. ... 6 Creflo Dollar. ... 7 Kenneth Copeland. ... 8 Billy Graham. * 9 T.B Joshua * 10 Matthew Ashimolowo 1 Share
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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by ceda99: 3:38pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
#freethesheeple...my cash & offerings goes to the kids in durumi & kuchingoro idp camps here in abuja. I guess must of y'all don't even know that they exist. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Jesusgirl92(f): 3:46pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Barzinime:point of correction Mr man.... Men of God are called by God to serve..... And by the way, I don't know the poverty you speak of... I'm royalty.... You want to know why?? My Father is a King... The King of Kings.. |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by SweetJoystick(m): 3:49pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
generaliy:Here is the evidence you seek, read up the quoted verses as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KTnS3VxNUI |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Nobody: 3:49pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
generaliy: There is a big disconnect. You people are not serving God but your G.Os 3 Likes |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by BluntBoy(m): 3:50pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92: Every Christian is called to serve God. 1 Like |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Jesusgirl92(f): 3:52pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
BluntBoy:Whether u like it or not, there are special people given special assignments by God... Example Apostle Paul... |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by krokronyash(f): 3:53pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by SweetJoystick(m): 3:55pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
nkemdi89:Watch and be free sheepie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KTnS3VxNUI |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by BluntBoy(m): 3:55pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92: Everyone is special in Christ. There is no slave or freeborn in Christ. We are one. A royal priesthood. 1 Like |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by davoski87: 4:02pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Paxziano: 4:03pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
generaliy: Dude. No need to tell lies. I am not saying Freeze is a preacher, but whatever he has used in countering preachers is 100% from the Bible's. What preachers r trying to use to counter him r insults and sentiments. Nothing is from the Bible. So if this was a court of law, trust me, Freeze is winning. Freeze is not saying you or anybody should not tithe. He is saying tithing is NOT COMPULSORY. Get the difference. If Nigerians could take 5minutes to to scrutinize what they are being told by their pastors, they would see a lot of rights and wrongs.... 4 Likes |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by vislabraye(m): 4:07pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
derecho: Thank God you said there are weightier issues. Let us focus in it. Btw, it's not the issue of argument. Don't miss the point. I'm not interested in winning any argument with someone I've nevermet. We must all stand by the truth as long as it can be supported by the Word of God. You must be ready to give an answer to whatever you believe. |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by arrestdarrester: 4:09pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
generaliy: You have outlined part of the problem but left out one. Why are Believers not allowed to be freely Berean again? Why can't a Believer study to see if what his Pastor teaches is the truth? Why should Anointed Pastors threaten Believers in Christ with curses? The problem is not daddy freeze. When God speaks and a prophet Balaam refuses to listen, then a donkey's voice becomes what will correct him. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by FaniDan(f): 4:13pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Hiccups:, Go and get the The tithe from the just concluded KGPC by Dr. Paul Enenche, |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Shally2: 4:19pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Most of all these pastors are deceiving you people. Forget this daddy freeze talk first. If Those who have worked with these guys either as PAs or domestic staff/ relatives tell you what these people do behind closed doors, you will weep for Jerusalem. Most of these people who know them very well either do not go to church again because of the level of deciet they have seen or rededicate their lives to Christ after leaving them. Most of all these GOs are wolves in sheep's clothing. They are not who you see on stage. They act for you people knowing that it will be difficult for you to find out. I know of a GO who has more than 7 wives, concubines, including women who are married . He also has numerous children, you will think he has just those ones you see alone. But people do not know. It's only those who know him very well and the relatives of the women he runs things with that knows what's up. They claim he is no longer a pastor, he is now a king, but he still bears the title pastor, just to give excuse for him because the Bible is against it. That he is like King Solomon, and David. Can you imagine? Even when the Bible has stated that a bishop/GO should be husband of one wife. He doesn't even have a ' wife' that we 'see'. He is still hiding and pretending, wearing wedding band, 'no wife' but people who know, actually knows his dirty game. They sit down and calculate the money they make from people. They don't even pay tithe, but preaches it. They milk people dry. They know what they are doing. Some do not believe in the existence of God. They do not even fear God. They act that way just to collect your money and build empires with it. One has up to 200 companies but people will never get to know. Leading people to hell with their false doctrines. People should pray to God to open their eyes Love God and serve him. The ones who were called by God do not make noise. They are not even known. They serve God diligently and in truth. They don't stage manage miracles to gain popularity and money. They are working with the whole of their heart. I rather give my money to those who go for evangelism in places where they face persecution yet they keep pushing. Places like, Somalia, Sudan, Afghanistan etc... Those are Christians who are ready to preach without fear. They are persecuted ....yet they persevere... not these ones in big cities who preach one thing to the same audience every service day. Recycling messages and selling to you. Who do ALL kinds of dirty things. OMG terrible! May God help us all and open our eyes! Amen! 2 Likes |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Horlufemi(m): 4:21pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
chloedogie: I totally agree with you but maybe when they start doing God's work I'll stop calling them G.Hoes. Till them I'm not sorry. Yes I'm blunt. Face the message and leave the messenger |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by OBAGADAFFI: 4:23pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Jsaviour: When is come to Religion, people act based on personal faith and believe and there is no right or wrong in that. You should be Educated enough to Know that, You can't call people educated illiterates because they're not practicing Religion the way to you have chosen to practice yours. That is why there several denomination out there. . The last time I checked nobody has been called out, arrested or jailed for not giving in Church, so who coarse who here. You have certain fears deal with it. Some times I go to church without giving anything and nothing happens. Remember the noise about Christmas been Peganism ( which I don't doubt) but people are still celebrating Christmas all over the world. No shocking think will happen Stop sensationalizing issues. |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by tee4naija(m): 4:28pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
osomegbe: You are already digressing from the subject. He is not the only man that has divorced his wife, a number of celebrity pastors have done so in the past and nothing happened. Deal with the message and leave the messenger. 1 Like |
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by KaptainAfrika: 4:34pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
CAN SOMEONE SHOW ME IN THE BIBLE, WHERE: 1. TITHE IS MONEY 2. TITHE IS MONTHLY 3. TITHE IS 10% IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO RUN TO MALACHI, IF YOU MUST TITHE, YOU MUST DO IT AS GOD INSTRUCTED. AND FROM THE SUMMARY OF WHAT I HAVE READ, THERE IS A LOT OF DRINKING, EATING AND SHARING. SO PRO-TITHERS, WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR 10% OF EVERY MONTHLY INCOME DOCTRINE? AND LEST I FORGET, SHOULD A PENSIONER, WHO PAID TITHE ALL HIS LIFE ON HIS SALARY, ALSO PAY TITHE ON HIS MONTHLY PENSION TOO, SINCE IT WAS DEDUCTED FROM HIS SALARY BY THE GOVERNMENT? 4 Likes 1 Share |
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