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Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by Promiseisaac(m): 9:24pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Na Money That Man Need, Nairaland Should Also Take Note That This An Old News, It Happened Since Last 3 Weeks.. Am Surprice Seeing It Here This Evening. 1 Like |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by Chukazu: 9:25pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
labi1977: Obviously you don't know VICTOR UWAIFO...that man was commissioner of arts and culture just recently in Edo state, what other fame are you talking about and who Simi again? |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by omoadeleye(m): 9:25pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
sisipelebe: You are bloody rude 3 Likes |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by royalamour(m): 9:27pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Tolexander: You are extremely wrong on this. 3 Likes |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by kodded(m): 9:28pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
[s] sisipelebe:[/s] shut up wetin you sabi 3 Likes |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by Noblefreeman(m): 9:29pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
[quote author=money121 post=62738284]Oya No vex [ifeanyi ogbonna |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by tintingz(m): 9:37pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Chukazu:Song titles are not copyrighted, because the origin are not sufficient. If the title of the song "Joromi" was invented by Uwaifo and made it popular then he can claim copyright but from what I know the word Joromi was not invented by him, I think. 1 Like |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by Chukazu: 9:41pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
CaptainFM1: You got it twisted bro. There's a huge difference between mentioning popular people's name on song lyrics and "using a catchy line of someone's old song." The word JOROMI is a "PSEUDONYM" obviously invented by SIR UWAIFO and SIMI can not deny the knowledge of such except she wants to play dump |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by PVision2020(m): 9:43pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
yhemster:Can you give us the tonic sofa of both songs and show if there is a similarity in notes? The songs differ in time signature, lyrics, note and genre. The only similarity is the word joromi that was nor even invented by the legend. That you popularise an existing word doesn't give you any right to it. You can't patent what has been existing. 4 Likes |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by Chukazu: 9:43pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
tintingz: You still thinking... |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by Sage7(m): 9:44pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Ishilove:Ishilove, I disagree with you. Get off Nairalander to go and read?? Read what?? For your information, Nairaland is a book on its own, what I have gained here can't be overemphasized. From health to books to what have you, infact I don't want to delve into counting because day go break. I'm particularly surprised this statement is coming from you sha 1 Like |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by tintingz(m): 9:47pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Chukazu:Because the origin of the word "joromi" is not sufficient, I can't make claims on what I don't have sufficient knowledge of but what I know for sure is Joromi is a fashion and tale popularly known in old days. |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by labi1977(m): 9:49pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Chukazu: Get updated, we're not living in past. VU is an icon but his day is mostly gone, just life, I really don't even no wat his version means. Btw baba is too big for such beef anyway n Shud have ignored such minor similarities. I've Neva been his fan so maybe I Shud luk him up. Bye. |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by tintingz(m): 9:54pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
PVision2020:Thank you for the bolded. Cc Chukazu. |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by yhemster(m): 9:54pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
PVision2020: Go and listen to the songs again on good speaker/headset. The particular tones I'm talking is main on the old man's tune bt it's on the background tone on Simi's tune. Anyway, enough of panadol on this matter. The old man gave them a pass so, I rest my case too. 3 Likes |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by PVision2020(m): 9:57pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
yhemster:Lol tones can be confusing. Just score the song (the baseline, the keyboard and strings) and your will know it has no similarity in note. Enough said, do have a lovely nite. |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by 9too1: 9:59pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Ishilove:quiet! he wasn't the original owner of that song, he copied his work from herbert (forgt is surname) from imo state, he changed the title (including the language but the same beat). the band released the song before the civil war. I will research more on this...have forgotten the full details. |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by Awoo88: 10:03pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
kelvinreality:If he invented that word and used it first, similar need needs his permission even it is just the title. 50cent had to change the title of his movie to " all things fall apart " when he did not get permission to use things fall apart |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by seuncyrus(m): 10:13pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
cyberguy72: Is this how you insult all your elders at home bro ? 1 Like |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by seuncyrus(m): 10:16pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
martineverest: And this is just a music discussion thread , imagine a politics or religious thread with these same set of people ... 3 Likes |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by onegig(m): 10:29pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
tintingz: You can use a song without permission 50 years after the death of the Artist. That's according to US copyright laws. I don't know what the Nigeria law states Copyright don't cover things such as names but it does cover ideas which can be very broad in copyright parlance, beats, tunes , rhythm and everything in between. And I can tell you....Rhythm is everything and that's where Simi's would be found. The way you pronounce a word can be copyrighted and even if you used another word in it's stead that is similar and pronounced the same way. You have infringed on the copyright of the original owner. For example If I shouted in my song "break break break it" then whitsle and you did the same but with the words "Drake Drake Drake it" then whitsle. It can be classified as infringing on my copyright because it is an idea of mine. I can give you tons of examples of this where it was rules as an infirgenent and the artist were required to pay royalties or drop the music from the market and stop all promotional sales. So just imagine that and now consider what Simi did. Even funny is cases where Artists under a label sold their copyrights to a particular music to a record label and after sometime they leave the label. The copyright law states they can never ever make a song that sounds like anything they ever made when the copyright to such is held by someone else. There are may examples where Artists had to buy back their copyrights to be able to even sing their own songs. Sunny Ade was in such a mess sometime back. I can assure you if Uwaifor should pursue this and his lawyers do their homework he would win it 100%. A careful listening of both would show you Simi's own did infact sounded exactly like his at some point. Do a karaoke of both and start from there. You don't even need to listen to the lyrics to find such. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by Agozie48: 10:37pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
where did one appear from? Simi didn't remix your song abeg, I have heard your own Joromi and its boring and makes no sense. when I heard Simi's song Joromi I just loved it instantly. Your own Joromi and Simi's own are not the same so go and sleep Oga. you should even be happy she used the title of your song |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by oluwamitomisin: 10:44pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
If Simi could have copied "Aimasiko" from Ebenezer Obey in both song title and chorus lyrics, I can't be convinced she did not (stylishly) copied "Joromi". Babe is good, but she need tread carefully with remixing songs. 2 Likes |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by demefa(m): 11:29pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
In August 2017 on beat fm Lagos, Simi said she copied her Joromi from Victor Uwaifo's Joromi 3 Likes |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by Crossbow(m): 11:43pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
What are Nigerians saying sef... That song was another different genre and had nothing to do with Victor Uwaifo's. Those shouting plagiarism, plagiarism has to do with content and not titles. I adored the man but if he really said this, he then is becoming too old. Nice song form Simi jare.. |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by nkemjacob2(m): 11:43pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Tolexander:weda the joromi are both different, victor owaifo brought that word so dats settle the case |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by nkemjacob2(m): 11:45pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
He has said it all |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by tintingz(m): 11:50pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
onegig:I have modified my post, go back and read it. Copyright don't cover things such as names but it does cover ideas which can be very broad in copyright parlance, beats, tunes , rhythm and everything in between. And I can tell you....Rhythm is everything and that's where Simi's would be found. The way you pronounce a word can be copyrighted and even if you used another word in it's stead that is similar and pronounced the same way. You have infringed on the copyright of the original owner.Well you maybe right here but Simi's joromi song and Uwaifo's joromi song are soundly different. Simi's song, I dey give you signal (joromi) Why you no dey see me ah (joromi) I give you green light tire (joromi Joro) Omo kilon bubble o (Joromi) Make you no dey fumble o (Joromi) I go shoot my shot e o Joro Uwaifo's song, Enikunafe (joromi jomi jo) Enikunafe (joromi jomi jo) kree kese kese (joromi o jomi o) Kree kisi kisi (joromi o jomi o) I dont really get what he said but i tried atleast. The rhythm dont sound close at all the only similarity is just the name 'joromi' which was not even invented by Sir Uwaifo. Another example is like singing "caro o caro o caro o baby o" and another artist sing "carolina o carolina o carolina o my baby o" abeg how did they sound the same? can the former claim any copyright in this case? This is the same as Simi and Uwaifo Joromi song. Even funny is cases where Artists under a label sold their copyrights to a particular music to a record label and after sometime they leave the label. The copyright law states they can never ever make a song that sounds like anything they ever made when the copyright to such is held by someone else. There are may examples where Artists had to buy back their copyrights to be able to even sing their own songs. Sunny Ade was in such a mess sometime back.I know about this. I can assure you if Uwaifor should pursue this and his lawyers do their homework he would win it 100%.He wont because the case is just 10% winning chance on his side, he can only use the popularity of the song to win but not with the title nor the content of the song. And aside that Simi has manager and lawyer, i am very sure they know what they were doing before releasing that song, even Jaywon replied by saying this. A careful listening of both would show you Simi's own did infact sounded exactly like his at some point. Do a karaoke of both and start from there. You don't even need to listen to the lyrics to find such.I just posted the lyrics up there, tell me if they sound the same. |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by Mac2016(m): 11:54pm On Nov 26, 2017 |
Oya Michael Jackson should claim piracy for 2pac's "Letter to my unborn child" and Small doctor should claim piracy for Davido's Fia.... Mtcheew |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by onegig(m): 12:14am On Nov 27, 2017 |
tintingz:Let me explain better. It's not only about the lyrics alone. Listen to the sounds, the rhythm, the flow of words, the use of instruments and its immitations . That's what copyright laws are after. If I tell 10 people to write a story about a mango tree. There would be 10 different ideas and storylines. You can't copyright "story about a mango tree" but you can copyright the individual 10 different ideas that came up. If someone imitates whether knowingly or unknowingly any of such because he read one of the stories previously or has heard of it before. He has infirgened on the copyright of the person. Let me give you a quote so you understand better. "Copyright law is against copying; if you come up with the exact same melody by yourself, then it's fine, as long as you can PROVE that.Good luck proving such. To prevent people from abusing this, there's a rule that if you've had access to (heard, for example) a previous creation (in this case, the song) and your work is similar to that previous creation, then it will be presumed that you did copy and you have to prove you didn't (not easy). You can also be found to have "subconsciously copied". Balancing this is the rule that if you didn't intentionally copy, you won't be required to pay damages, only enjoined (ordered by way of injunction) to stop infringing the original copyright (so you can't sell your song etc.)" You wouldn't want to be in her shoes in court. Drop those N200 earpiece they sell on the streets and use a better earpiece to listen to the songs before making judgement. Wish we had sound engineers on nairaland. just a few hours work analysing both sounds and giving an informed verdict. 4 Likes |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by Dboyz(m): 1:51am On Nov 27, 2017 |
Tolexander: Close ur mouth. ...check the meaning of plagiarism b4 talkin nonsense.... 3 Likes |
Re: Simi, Jaywon Remixed ‘joromi’ Without My Permission – Sir Victor Uwaifo by Opelwonder(m): 1:56am On Nov 27, 2017 |
Hozier:no bro, in copyright laws it aint. D first tym i heard dt of simi, i remembad uwaifo's. She shud av taken permission or acknowledged. Piracy is in many forms 2 Likes |
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