safarigirl: lol...they and their Brazilian full back will probably crash out at group stage
Full back that cannuh score goal, is that one a full back?
A full back that is not even defensively solid that's just full of flicks and tricks. lol, imo they are not even a match for the SE. And idowu is looking like he already has a spot in our team, that kind of nation no fit reach anywhere with that disgusting mentality. They should keep giving us more of thier black players, thier ignorance is welcome.
Sir my people say that humans are like water, we flow sir. From the bible and Koran, people have always moved from place to place, remember the story of Abraham/Ibrahim and Joe/Yusuf. So miscegemege or whatever you called it has been on forever and will continue to be. Important thing is that like Martin Luther King inferred we are all equal before God!!!
I disagree because Idowu is not left-footed and is kind of careful with his play when he plays as a LWB.
Some said Pavon was quiet, but my question is "how many times did we build up from the left?
Did he(Idowu) boss the left-flank like Ebuehi?
How many times did u see him running with the ball from the left and positioning in our own half to initiate attacks from the left like Ebuehi?
At a time it was even Ogu who tried to run with the ball from the left, but was stopped because he lacks pace.
Idowu is mainly good at defending and positioning himself in scoring positions.
These are too different things running(without the ball) to meet-up with the ball infront of goal to score, which Idowu does and running down the flank to defend , pick the ball and launch attack with the ball on one's feet which he didn't but was seen in Ebuehi.
A wing-back should be someone who is able,comfortable and ready to play the ball like V.Moses and Ebuehi. It's not just something of defending and running up to meet a cross without building up from your flank.
Am not saying Idowu is a bad player, he has two good qualities, when he plays on the left which is his positioning for a cross and his good defending.
The same thing(being right-footed) limited Aina on the left, that most times he used his right foot.
If Aina sat deep, defended and ran to meet a crosses to score like Idowu, he won't be replaced in the second-half.
He(Aina) made the mistake of trying to play the LB comfortably, forgetting that he is right-footed. He also failed to boss his flank in that game.
If you watch the match again you will see that he became cautious after we conceded the second goal by defending well.
Am just saying that for the 3-5-2 system, we need wing-backs who can comfortably go forward,build-up from their wings and be very good defensively like Ebuehi and V.Moses.
Idowu is a kind of careful while playing as a LB which is right because he is right-footed.
Teams come to the WC prepared tactically and technically.
Anyone who watched our match against Argentina will observe that the Argentines biggest mistake was concentrating their attacks on the right.
If they did what they did on the right to the left Boss we go concede because Idowu no be ball player for LWB.
But we can wait and see sha because wing-back should be ball-players.
If ball-players are not that important why is Rohr still searching for a CB?
Well said. An article I read shortly before match said Idowu has an aggressive style and that he likes to attack. I stressed the fact that defensively he was solid. Di Maria was putting crosses through the right wing where Ebuehi was but none came through Pavon on the left. Idowu has the advantage. Rohr has almost said he'd be part of the team.
Am not saying he should be dropped but to say he is a starter for the left wing-back get comma.
I am sorry to say ,You must have been watching the back of your TV during the match because the idowu that I saw was superb at both defending and attack. FYI, I have the second half of that match downloaded on my phone and I have watched it over a hundredth times and I can say confidently that both at our attacks and our defending, you will always see idowu lurking around marking space, meaning that he haas the pace to do both at the same time which is a good thing on its own. Someone that was even in the 6 yard box when iwobi scored. There are two forms of marking, 1. Man marking and 2. Space marking . I saw idowu doing more of the later than the former while ebuehi did more of the former than the later. And from my experience playing amateur football, players/defenders who are very good at space marking or shadow marking are extremely intelligent folks who can read games very well. These set of players are indispensable in a team.
For every time we had the ball going forward, idowu was always at the third half of Argentina looking for a pass or loose ball. For every attack from Argentina, idowu was back behind in our 18 yard taking off Argentine's Pavon. Intact he frustrated Pavon out of the game and he was changed. The player who replaced him resulted to crossing from outside because he couldn't pass through idowu. There was even a clear rebounds that idowu cleared off else that woud have become 3-4. Idowu had Ogu always beside him providing support which was essential and necessary. So please, I want to believe that your assertion was erroneously made. Idowu was only silent because he was marking well "off the ball" and covering space which didn't allow the Argentines to create anything tangible through his wing. Remember that it was through his same position in the Argentines were recking havoc althrough the first half.
I will advice that you get the clip of the second half and rewatch in order to notice what I just analyzed.
I am sorry to say ,You must have been watching the back of your TV during the match because the idowu that I saw was superb at both defending and attack. FYI, I have the second half of that match downloaded on my phone and I have watched it over a hundredth times and I can say confidently that both at our attacks and our defending, you will always see idowu lurking around marking space, meaning that he haas the pace to do both at the same time which is a good thing on its own. Someone that was even in the 6 yard box when iwobi scored. There are two forms of marking, 1. Man marking and 2. Space marking . I saw idowu doing more of the later than the former while ebuehi did more of the former than the later. And from my experience playing amateur football, players/defenders who are very good at space marking or shadow marking are extremely intelligent folks who can read games very well. These set of players are indispensable in a team.
For every time we had the ball going forward, idowu was always at the third half of Argentina looking for a pass or loose ball. For every attack from Argentina, idowu was back behind in our 18 yard taking off Argentine's Pavon. Intact he frustrated Pavon out of the game and he was changed. The player who replaced him resulted to crossing from outside because he couldn't pass through idowu. There was even a clear rebounds that idowu cleared off else that woud have become 3-4. Idowu had Ogu always beside him providing support which was essential and necessary. So please, I want to believe that your assertion was erroneously made. Idowu was only silent because he was marking well "off the ball" and covering space which didn't allow the Argentines to create anything tangible through his wing. Remember that it was through his same position in the Argentines were recking havoc althrough the first half.
I will advice that you get the clip of the second half and rewatch in order to notice what I just analyzed.
Ha ha ha."Back of TV".
What's the duty of a LWB?
Did we build-up from the left?
Did we attack from the left?
A more technical team will punish us for that because to ward-off attacks you have to do both defending and attacking as a WB.
Since he kept them quiet, was he able to build-up and attack from the left?
It's the WC that we are preparing for oo.
Or you care more about goals rather than a players contribution to the team's formation?
You can watch the game again with what I've said in mind.
EEGA: I disagree because Idowu is not left-footed and is kind of careful with his play when he plays as a LWB.
Some said Pavon was quiet, but my question is "how many times did we build up from the left?
Did he(Idowu) boss the left-flank like Ebuehi?
How many times did u see him running with the ball from the left and positioning in our own half to initiate attacks from the left like Ebuehi?
At a time it was even Ogu who tried to run with the ball from the left, but was stopped because he lacks pace.
Idowu is mainly good at defending and positioning himself in scoring positions.
These are too different things running(without the ball) to meet-up with the ball infront of goal to score, which Idowu does and running down the flank to defend , pick the ball and launch attack with the ball on one's feet which he didn't but was seen in Ebuehi.
A wing-back should be someone who is able,comfortable and ready to play the ball like V.Moses and Ebuehi. It's not just something of defending and running up to meet a cross without building up from your flank.
Am not saying Idowu is a bad player, he has two good qualities, when he plays on the left which is his positioning for a cross and his good defending.
The same thing(being right-footed) limited Aina on the left, that most times he used his right foot.
If Aina sat deep, defended and ran to meet a crosses to score like Idowu, he won't be replaced in the second-half.
He(Aina) made the mistake of trying to play the LB comfortably, forgetting that he is right-footed. He also failed to boss his flank in that game.
If you watch the match again you will see that he became cautious after we conceded the second goal by defending well.
Am just saying that for the 3-5-2 system, we need wing-backs who can comfortably go forward,build-up from their wings and be very good defensively like Ebuehi and V.Moses.
Idowu is a kind of careful while playing as a LB which is right because he is right-footed.
Teams come to the WC prepared tactically and technically.
Anyone who watched our match against Argentina will observe that the Argentines biggest mistake was concentrating their attacks on the right.
If they did what they did on the right to the left Boss we go concede because Idowu no be ball player for LWB.
But we can wait and see sha because wing-back should be ball-players.
If ball-players are not that important why is Rohr still searching for a CB?
Idowu is naturally left footed but still good with his right foot just as Ebuehi is naturally right footed but still uses his left foot.
Dboyno: hello guys am a new comer to this forum and I really enjoy ur comment hear when reading as a quest. Am really happy commenting as a nairalander today
This propose super Eagles jersey by this sports journalist, Andrew Randa for Russia 2018 World Cup is really eye catching and very intimidating! I keep telling people that the Large Eagle on the Jersey is the selling point. Who no go fear if them see ihenacho dey run come score. Its so dope and unique , can't stop admiring it.
EEGA: I disagree because Idowu is not left-footed and is kind of careful with his play when he plays as a LWB.
Some said Pavon was quiet, but my question is "how many times did we build up from the left?
Did he(Idowu) boss the left-flank like Ebuehi?
How many times did u see him running with the ball from the left and positioning in our own half to initiate attacks from the left like Ebuehi?
At a time it was even Ogu who tried to run with the ball from the left, but was stopped because he lacks pace.
Idowu is mainly good at defending and positioning himself in scoring positions.
These are too different things running(without the ball) to meet-up with the ball infront of goal to score, which Idowu does and running down the flank to defend , pick the ball and launch attack with the ball on one's feet which he didn't but was seen in Ebuehi.
A wing-back should be someone who is able,comfortable and ready to play the ball like V.Moses and Ebuehi. It's not just something of defending and running up to meet a cross without building up from your flank.
Am not saying Idowu is a bad player, he has two good qualities, when he plays on the left which is his positioning for a cross and his good defending.
The same thing(being right-footed) limited Aina on the left, that most times he used his right foot.
If Aina sat deep, defended and ran to meet a crosses to score like Idowu, he won't be replaced in the second-half.
He(Aina) made the mistake of trying to play the LB comfortably, forgetting that he is right-footed. He also failed to boss his flank in that game.
If you watch the match again you will see that he became cautious after we conceded the second goal by defending well.
Am just saying that for the 3-5-2 system, we need wing-backs who can comfortably go forward,build-up from their wings and be very good defensively like Ebuehi and V.Moses.
Idowu is a kind of careful while playing as a LB which is right because he is right-footed.
Teams come to the WC prepared tactically and technically.
Anyone who watched our match against Argentina will observe that the Argentines biggest mistake was concentrating their attacks on the right.
If they did what they did on the right to the left Boss we go concede because Idowu no be ball player for LWB.
But we can wait and see sha because wing-back should be ball-players.
If ball-players are not that important why is Rohr still searching for a CB?
I hope this 3-5-2 will not scattered this team in the WC,just 45 minutes performance against Argentina it seems we want to neglect our original pattern which is 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3.
As you have rightly said we are having issues with our LWB and i don't see moses playing RWB in the WC meaning we have limited players to play 3-5-2.Aina,Shehu,Ebuhei,Idowu are all RB with only Echiejele LB and he cannot function as LWB,Idowu and Aina can only be a makeshift players at LB.Even Ebuhei cannot do it as LWB as he does at RWB.
I watched Ebuhei against Mainz 05 in a friendly this season,he first started at the Right side and his performance was average,in the second half he was moved to left side,his performance was below par meaning he would be useful at RB.
Good the 45 minutes against Argentina see all the players turning to Superstars even Iwobi who was awful in the first half later put MOTM performance.Something tells me if Rohr started Ebuhei and Idowu we will still have the same performance in the first half.
Rohr should know he can't get a perfect team so he should start now,enough of switchers,with the full backs at his disposal i don't see any issue.Spain won WC with false striker in Fabregas
3-5-2 is delicate if you don't have good players to prosecute it,better for us to continue with our traditional formations but if needs arise we can use 3-5-2 but it should not be the main formation or else we pay dearly for it.
goldfish80: I'm starting to like the this Anderletch manager. If only Jay Jay Okocha had this kind of coach in his formative years, he'd have been on the Zinedine Zidane level.
I read one of the interviews of Jay Jay Okocha where he said the German racist made him become a bundle of skills and dribbles.
What is zeal without discipline, without consistency, without diligence, without focus, continous improvement and a desire to win at every opportunity.
There is no team chemistry without quality
There is a component that is essential to drawing different men together and propelling them to success. Men of outstanding quality and ability beyond the normal. They create assurance of probable victory, which in turn births confidence and the courage to pursue and obtain VICTORY. Success pulls the team together not failure.
When you have quality there is the probable assurance of victory. When you don't have quality you have the higher probability of failure. The possibility of failure breads discord and mistrust and conflicting divergence. That is what destroys team spirit a lack of confidence in your ability to overcome.
Why is Argentina a mere shadow of themselves without Messi. Imagine Portugal without Ronaldo or Brazil without Neymar and Gabriel or England without Kane and our lost son Dele. Top quality players are the pillars that make the team great.
The call to the national service of the SE is recognition of outstanding performance, your earn the right by merit. Not the probability of assumed team cohesion.
Your proposition is an affront to merit and the enthronement of mediocrity.
If you are performing in your league and in a better league and or an outstanding quality player, your call is by merit not assumed team cohesion.
Consistency over time is the definitive component in top quality players. Consistently being on top of the game. One hit wonders do not become top quality players.
I didnt call for Osaze or Tiawo they are not on top of the game. However Joel Obi outside of Mikel is the most consistent top quality midfielder we have currently.
Obagoal over the past ten years is the most continously present and past consistent striker we have now.
As it stands KC is the untouchable darling of many. He is essentially potential yet to be fully realised. He has not been consistent at club level indeed far from it. He has not scored one goal in the EPL this season. Compare him to Obagoal when the chips are down who would you rather have KC is learning the trade and still handicapped in that he is overly left foot biased. Obagoal is tested and proven and we'll schooled graduated with honours.
If Obagoal had the same level of opportunity as KC I wonder what his goal tally would be for the SE.
It's not how long ago you were in the SE, but what quality you have and can presently bring to the table.
I really don't like miscegenation as such. Races should maintain their racial stock which is what the Russians are doing which I support except the racism. Love your race, preserve your race without hating or destroying other races.
If it can be done without racism let Germans, Russians, Italians be Caucasians. Let Nigerians, Ghanaians, Togolese be negroids. I look at the French team and I'm like is this French? Good as an example of multiculturalism but I feel nationality should be tied to race. My opinion though.
There is only one race and its called Man Kind or if your a PC activist then Human Kind
Races in context of genealogy does not exist. Never has.
Bro understand my point. Yes we are equal before God. Yes, No racism. No prejudice. I didn't say people should not travel to other places. I'm talking about preserving racial stock. That's what Russians want to do its just that they throw racism into the mix which is bad. Is it not in the bible dem say Isreal should not intermarry?
Got your point sir.
Is it not the same Jews that are scattered all over the world and now citizens of the world.
Is not in the same bible that Solomon married the queen of Egypt. Is it not in the same bible that Jews and gentiles (non jews) were eventually told they could be called sons of Abraham.
Anyway na soccer we come talk o, make we dey talk t e soccer dey go!!!!!!!!!!
The world is more or less now a melting pot and nothing we can do about it bro to a large extent.
Is it not the same Jews that are scattered all over the world and now citizens of the world.
Is not in the same bible that Solomon married the queen of Egypt. Is it not in the same bible that Jews and gentiles (non jews) were eventually told they could be called sons of Abraham.
Anyway na soccer we come talk o, make we dey talk t e soccer dey go!!!!!!!!!!
The world is more or less now a melting pot and nothing we can do about it bro to a large extent.
Jah bless!!!!!!
I understand your point. It's a sensitive matter. Back to soccer as you said.
EEGA: I disagree because Idowu is not left-footed and is kind of careful with his play when he plays as a LWB.
Some said Pavon was quiet, but my question is "how many times did we build up from the left?
Did he(Idowu) boss the left-flank like Ebuehi?
How many times did u see him running with the ball from the left and positioning in our own half to initiate attacks from the left like Ebuehi?
At a time it was even Ogu who tried to run with the ball from the left, but was stopped because he lacks pace.
Idowu is mainly good at defending and positioning himself in scoring positions.
These are too different things running(without the ball) to meet-up with the ball infront of goal to score, which Idowu does and running down the flank to defend , pick the ball and launch attack with the ball on one's feet which he didn't but was seen in Ebuehi.
A wing-back should be someone who is able,comfortable and ready to play the ball like V.Moses and Ebuehi. It's not just something of defending and running up to meet a cross without building up from your flank.
Am not saying Idowu is a bad player, he has two good qualities, when he plays on the left which is his positioning for a cross and his good defending.
The same thing(being right-footed) limited Aina on the left, that most times he used his right foot.
If Aina sat deep, defended and ran to meet a crosses to score like Idowu, he won't be replaced in the second-half.
He(Aina) made the mistake of trying to play the LB comfortably, forgetting that he is right-footed. He also failed to boss his flank in that game.
If you watch the match again you will see that he became cautious after we conceded the second goal by defending well.
Am just saying that for the 3-5-2 system, we need wing-backs who can comfortably go forward,build-up from their wings and be very good defensively like Ebuehi and V.Moses.
Idowu is a kind of careful while playing as a LB which is right because he is right-footed.
Teams come to the WC prepared tactically and technically.
Anyone who watched our match against Argentina will observe that the Argentines biggest mistake was concentrating their attacks on the right.
If they did what they did on the right to the left Boss we go concede because Idowu no be ball player for LWB.
But we can wait and see sha because wing-back should be ball-players.
If ball-players are not that important why is Rohr still searching for a CB?
A player that defends well and still joins the attack, how does he get to the attacking positions? Does he varnish? Does he not have to run along with the play to get there?
Yes he was not much involved in build up to the attack compared to Ebuehi but we have already discussed it here that majority of our attacks come from the right. We always have more mobility in that side of the pitch. 3 of the 4goals against Argentina came from the right. The goal against Zambia in Uyo came from the right, 3 goals against Cameroon in Uyo came from the right. Build up of our only goal against Cameroon in Yaounde came from the right.
That is the way the team is structured. We are more gifted with right footed players. Who are the left footed players that will play build up with Idowu from the left?
If all Idowu would do for us is defend well and then make meaningful impact in the attack, I am OK with that.
Idowu taught Aina how to play that position. Simple. Idowu may be new to the team but his general level of experience of the game showed that day.
Wow. You reached all these conclusions from watching him on TV for less than 45mins, huh?
Nigerians, we dey hail una o
O pari
EEGA: I disagree because Idowu is not left-footed and is kind of careful with his play when he plays as a LWB.
Some said Pavon was quiet, but my question is "how many times did we build up from the left?
Did he(Idowu) boss the left-flank like Ebuehi?
How many times did u see him running with the ball from the left and positioning in our own half to initiate attacks from the left like Ebuehi?
At a time it was even Ogu who tried to run with the ball from the left, but was stopped because he lacks pace.
Idowu is mainly good at defending and positioning himself in scoring positions.
These are too different things running(without the ball) to meet-up with the ball infront of goal to score, which Idowu does and running down the flank to defend , pick the ball and launch attack with the ball on one's feet which he didn't but was seen in Ebuehi.
A wing-back should be someone who is able,comfortable and ready to play the ball like V.Moses and Ebuehi. It's not just something of defending and running up to meet a cross without building up from your flank.
Am not saying Idowu is a bad player, he has two good qualities, when he plays on the left which is his positioning for a cross and his good defending.
The same thing(being right-footed) limited Aina on the left, that most times he used his right foot.
If Aina sat deep, defended and ran to meet a crosses to score like Idowu, he won't be replaced in the second-half.
He(Aina) made the mistake of trying to play the LB comfortably, forgetting that he is right-footed. He also failed to boss his flank in that game.
If you watch the match again you will see that he became cautious after we conceded the second goal by defending well.
Am just saying that for the 3-5-2 system, we need wing-backs who can comfortably go forward,build-up from their wings and be very good defensively like Ebuehi and V.Moses.
Idowu is a kind of careful while playing as a LB which is right because he is right-footed.
Teams come to the WC prepared tactically and technically.
Anyone who watched our match against Argentina will observe that the Argentines biggest mistake was concentrating their attacks on the right.
If they did what they did on the right to the left Boss we go concede because Idowu no be ball player for LWB.
But we can wait and see sha because wing-back should be ball-players.
If ball-players are not that important why is Rohr still searching for a CB?
I am going to perform another mock draw for the FIFA World Cup. I just watched the procedure on YouTube and coincidentally I followed the right procedure in my earlier attempt. I want to do this a second time to see if I will arrive at a similar result for Nigeria. The other time I had France, Croatia, Iran and Nigeria in Group H.
Mujtahida: Rohr Scouts For Reliable Players As Back-up To Mikel, Echiejile, Ighalo 48 November 26, 2017 10:18 am [img]http://www.completesportsnigeria.com/wp-contentuploads201706IMG_20170509_145901_351.jpg [/img] Exclusive By Johnny Edward: Super Eagles coach, Gernot Rohr, is looking for ‘special ball players’ who can hold the ball in tight match situations to play backup roles in his World Cup squad, Completesportsnigeria.com has learnt. According to a close source, the German still has some backup positions in some key areas to fill ahead of the 2018 FIFA World Cup in Russia. Those positions are that of Elderson Echiejile, Mikel Obi and Odion Ighalo, according to the source. “Against Algeria, away, the team could not hold the ball well and always ceded possession too easily. A good team would have punished the Eagles for that,” an impeccable source told Completesportsnigeria.com. “He (Gernot) admits he has a lot of work to do, but I believe he will succeed due to his good approach. “Firstly, he hopes for a good draw that won’t necessarily seal our fate before the kickoff of the World Cup itself, a good preparation for the World Cup and some luck.” “Some positions are covered, but he still needs options for other key positions and those areas are very vital. “In those positions, he is looking out for players with the quality who can play the ball comfortably with their feet when under pressure by the opponents.” Nigeria have been put in pot 4 ahead of the FIFA World Cup draw in Kremelin, Russia on the 2st of December. Source:Completesportsnigeria.com
Rorh, check this out. Can he hold the ball? They say seizing is believing.
Bro understand my point. Yes we are equal before God. Yes, No racism. No prejudice. I didn't say people should not travel to other places. I'm talking about preserving racial stock. That's what Russians want to do its just that they throw racism into the mix which is bad. Is it not in the bible dem say Isreal should not intermarry?
Biko, which one be racial stock?
The only difference between races is skin pigment, nothing else. There is nothing special about your skin color that should inform racial exclusivity.
Joebie: I am going to perform another mock draw for the FIFA World Cup. I just watched the procedure on YouTube and coincidentally I followed the right procedure in my earlier attempt. I want to do this a second time to see if I will arrive at a similar result for Nigeria. The other time I had France, Croatia, Iran and Nigeria in Group H.
Joebie: I am going to perform another mock draw for the FIFA World Cup. I just watched the procedure on YouTube and coincidentally I followed the right procedure in my earlier attempt. I want to do this a second time to see if I will arrive at a similar result for Nigeria. The other time I had France, Croatia, Iran and Nigeria in Group H.
Baba wait till Friday 6pm max,,by den we would knw d real deal
