edi287:


Mahrez mainly plays as a RW. Nacho was bought to play mainly as a SS and fill in for Vardy occasionally. Puel has come in with a different style and is playing Mahrez behind Vardy. With the results so far, I don't think he'll move Mahrez back to the wings useless Gray gets injured.

Oasis007:




But is he really useless for Leicester City presently?!

Danielnino00:





Kindly point out d part where i said i don't want martins back pls...

Rohr already said it many times that the door is wide open for the oldies in the team... even Yakubu still has a chances of coming out of retirement and play for the SE... But if Rohr isn't willing to take Martins to d world cup it will have little or maybe zero negative effect on the team.. We have been doing well so far without him so what's the use of him now??
He will be a valuable addition to d team if he doesn't get picked,heaven won't fall abeg...


the same applies to Enyeama (with respect to ur question)

safarigirl:
awon too many options. We have just ONE space upfront......and there are far better players than Martins that can take up that ONE space.

We don't need TOO MANY, after all, e no go pass seven forwards wey we dey carry go Brazil, we need ENOUGH and we have that, anybody filling that one space is EXTRA.

Icon79:
Is Vardy better than Kelechi? Well some reasonable people may disagree but I don't think so. Yes, Jamie Vardy has had only one good breakout season but who says that Kelechi wouldn't do better if he's afforded the same opportunity?

The point is, we don't know what we don't know.



O pari

edi287:

If you were being objective as you claim, you wouldn't be asking this question. Vardy in "poor" form this season has scored 7 in 14. Last year he scored 13.
There's no argument about it, Vardy is a better striker than Nacho.

Icon79:
You're asking me to prove a negative here, bro. We simply don't know what we don't know.

I mean, we can only make a fair assessment of both players if Kelechi has played 14 matches this season. Unfortunately, he hasn't. So is Vardy better? No one knows


O pari

edi287:

I meant unless obviously...does "useless" make sense in that sentence and going by my previous comments??

Eseose9:

I think he meant "unless"and not "useless"

goldfish80:

If the choice was between Martins and Osimhen. I'm afraid, I will go for Martins.
I will rather have a proven talent and goalscorer like Martins as a sub than a total green horn like Osimhen.
The "men's senior" world cup is not for babies.

safarigirl:
I don't want Enyeama in that World Cup Team List.

I don't want Martins or Ike Uche either.

Let all of them sit at home and support the players from their base like John Ogu was doing when he was frozen out.

At least Enyeama dey try support the team sef, wetin Martins dey do?

Oasis007:




Victor was a Starter before he got injured, and I'm certain he's gonna be back in the Fold once he returns to full fitness.

Ndidi is playing Week in Week out at Leicester City, he's a guaranteed Name on the List on every Match Day.

Iwobi is an intergral Part of Arsenal. He's competing with Ozil and Sanchez for the starting Berth, hence him being on the Bench is justifiable. He's having the same Fate with Elneny, Walcott, Wilshere, Coquelin and Co in the Team. And he's starting Cup Matches regularly.

Moses Simon, Ekong, Shehu, Idowu, Aina, Ebuehi, Ogu, Onazi, Mikel, Ighalo, Agu, Nwakaeme etc are Starters for the respective Clubs, so where is [b]Racism coming from?![/b]

safarigirl:
awon too many options. We have just ONE space upfront......and there are far better players than Martins that can take up that ONE space.

We don't need TOO MANY, after all, e no go pass seven forwards wey we dey carry go Brazil, we need ENOUGH and we have that, anybody filling that one space is EXTRA.

edi287:

Ok let's say Ighalo and Nacho are our confirmed first and second choice strikers at the moment...who else is better than Martins?? Who has had better numbers (before you disregard his numbers because he plays in China, remember that's where Ighalo plays and their stats is almost similar)

komekn:


Your club consistent and continuous performance and national team selection is the reward and recognition that it brings.

If you loose form and are not performing, then that position is no longer secure.

If Ighalo and or Martins out perform him will KC will he still be Numero 1

Kog45:
Initially i don't want to talk on Iheanacho cos some we never see reason to it due to love they have for the young boy which is understood but that should not derail our objectivity in analysing the situation in a critical way.

Firstly i remember asking Safarigirl who was the face of Nigeria football and she said Nacho but i said Iwobi.She gave her reason which i duly accepted,that Nacho was homegrown player.Now am seeing Iwobi as the face of Nigeria football cos his development is eclipsing Nacho development day by day.Iheanacho is losing it at lowly Leicester and the is not good for his career.

I see a lot here who are even super analysts shying away from the truth,trying to heaps blame on Leicester coaches for being bias and sentimental forgetting we have another player Ndidi doing it for the same club week in week out.

I don't think a club that splashed over £20m on a player should now turned around to disturb the player's growth.Iheanacho just need to brace up cos not leaving up to expectations at Leicester we have bad value on his market.

I remember Iheanacho days at Man city how thegoodjoe tried to give his pinpoint analysis on Nacho development,some agreed with him and some are not due to different view of the situation.A lot want Nacho out of City so that he could get a chance in a relative smaller club but thegoodjoe said his development would be great at City.

Truly it would have been better if he stay at city but what of our national team cos Iheanacho is one of the reliable player in the team,so need for him to seek playing time elsewhere.

Now at Leicester which a lot of fans see as an opportunity to prove his worth but reverse is the case,seeming finding it difficult to break into the team but worst not making match day team is unacceptable unless injury occurs.

We need to ask ourselves what is really the issue but i see a lot showing sentiments in driving their points,like Iheanacho is better than Vardy,who is Okazaki to bench Nacho, Slimani not a rival to Nacho,with all these excuses i wasn't surprised cos when Nacho was in City have seen some saying Nacho was better than Aguero,even before the coming of Gabriel Jesus,some said no way Nacho was better even when it was glaring these guys are better.I remember some believe Sterling should not be starting ahead of Nacho.

The same thing is repeating itself in Leicester now.I remember when Shakespeare was the coach a lot said he lacked the technical know how,he was kick and follow coach that Nacho cannot develop under him forgetting the same coach splashed whopping £25m on Nacho.When Shakespeare was sacked a lot said good,time for Nacho break into the the team,that the new coach good for Nacho development but with the new man Claude Puel story remain the same.

I see sentiments if we are saying Iheanacho is better than Vardy,forgetting Vardy is to Leicester just like Aguero is to City or Kane is to Tottenham,for Iheanacho to displace Vardy he must work and always grab his opportunity anytime he find himself in XI.Iheanacho has failed to make a statement this season and only statement is goal scoring,sometimes you see Okazaki coming from the bench and do the needful.

There is nothing like discrimination against Nacho cos we have Ndidi turning to super star in the same club,Ranieri bought Ndidi,Shakespeare took over and still used him,Claude still using him meaning his quality is not in doubt.

No need for excuses cos a lot were condemning Ahmed Musa for not making the team even some always question his national team called up but giving excuses for Iheanacho inability to make the team by questioning coaches decision is unfair.

No doubt Iheanacho is a quality striker and he must show his quality in Leicester by working hard to be a value member of the team just like Ndidi.

komekn:


100% agreement without question.

Let the truth be said currently Osimhem struggling to get on the bench in struggling side at the bottom level of the Bundesliga that narrowly escaped relegation. How many hours of first team football has he played in his entire career He is essentially a youth player with a potential yet to be realised.

gamaliel9:
Our comparative advantage in football is COUNTER-ATTACK..We all saw that in the WC qualifiers and against Argies. Obafemi Martins system of play suits us. He is at his best in a counter attack move. We release the ball fast. Secondly,he has experience,we need loads of it at world stage. Based on the above,if he is not injured, he should be on the plane to Putin s Russia

Oasis007:




Thank you Sister....... I'm kinda happy with your Submission. Hypocrisy is; if you are craving for the Return of an unfit Enyeama, but doesn't want an in-form Martins near the Team.

They should all stay far away from the List and allow the young Bloods to enjoy their moment.

edi287:

If you were being objective as you claim, you wouldn't be asking this question. Vardy in "poor" form this season has scored 7 in 14. Last year he scored 13.
There's no argument about it, Vardy is a better striker than Nacho.

TheGoodJoe:


Do you honestly think Martins can meet up with the intensity of the Super Eagles counter attacks?

gamaliel9:
Our comparative advantage in football is COUNTER-ATTACK..We all saw that in the WC qualifiers and against Argies. Obafemi Martins system of play suits us. He is at his best in a counter attack move. We release the ball fast. Secondly,he has experience,we need loads of it at world stage. Based on the above,if he is not injured, he should be on the plane to Putin s Russia

Humility017:


you make me laugh...nacho has scored over 7 goals for the super eagles wit just 14 matches....please tell me Martins stats?

two players far better than Martins...since you will love to know....are ighalo and nacho....

if Martins was that good let him move to the epl come January......and let's see how well he will play....

you make me laugh comparing someone playing in Chinese league...to players playing in Belgium, netherland, Israel etc

the strength of a league is revealed in the national.team.....
how good is the Chinese national team where a team in the league must parade up to 70% of full nationals in their team set up...

these are folks Martins play with weekly and here...you are mixing words as if he now play for Barcelona....

ighalo this season...some epl clubs already mulling on signing him come next year.....

safarigirl:
EPL clubs are wise enough to know that you don't go for an old, tired player that is in China....you can take a gamble on the younger ones, but the old guys that have been in football retirement leagues (MLS & China) should be overlooked.

Some people seem to not acknowkedge that however, it's unfathomable

Humility017:


thanks my brother.....the way they clamour for Martins leave me afraid.....

if he was that good....he won't be in Chinese league.....

an average player....many wanna stick their head for....
I will rather.....we have nwakeme than him...

goldfish80:


I didn't want to get drawn into the "experience debate" but most times, one just have to take a stand.

Arguing for experience is not a bad thing but sometimes one should be suspicious of " experience because it sometimes lives door to narrow-mindedness, conservatism and complacency.

For instance, the more experienced Wayne Rooney got, the worse he became and this could be said about many in the game.
Now, when it comes to Obafemi Martins, it appears he has actually got better with experience. When he was a youngster, he was difficult to play with but an absolute nightmare to play against.
Nowadays, he has modified his game and appeared to become a better team player. His partnership with Clint Dempsey was the best ever partnership witnessed in the MLS.

I saw his goal Last weekend, it was pure gold. A great fussion of everything you want in a striker, captured within 8 seconds. The speed, ball control, dribble, shot from outside the box was vintage.

At this point, I must be honest and say he deserves a look in. Let's not forget Russia used to be his play ground when he turned out for Rubin Kazan.
That guy could be an asset.

Taliban:


Well said. The MLS and China are for old tired players more like a retirement league.

But wait a minute isn't that where Ighalo and our legendary Mikel play?

safarigirl:
you must have skipped where I mentioned that EPL clubs will only go for younger players. Do you see any EPL clubs asking for Mikel?

If Mikel had been frozen out of the National team like Martins, how many of you would have asked for his recall now that he's in China?

You seem to not understand that Mikel and Martins should not be compared in any way, their situations are very different.

Martins is in the same boat as the likes of Enyeama, Emenike, Oboabona and other such players who haven't been in the SE set up in over a year

Taliban:


My bad at skipping going for younger players. True English clubs have not recruited from China except for Barca which is in Spain and better than most English teams. The point is yes English clubs may probably not recruit Mikel but is Mikel still a class act for us, absolute resounding yes. Yes Mikel has been in the team but an indisputable fact is Mikel's skills hasn't diminished despite playing in China. Who knows maybe Martins too has gotten better, it's a possibility.