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Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by Netfilix: 7:40am On Nov 30, 2017
[b]The 30-year-old will spend another three seasons at Camp Nou, and his unwillingness to prove himself abroad will taint his legacy

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In 1959, Pele scored what is considered the greatest goal of his career, and perhaps the best goal of all time. From a career of 1,283 goals, a header against Juventus is praised above the rest due to the outstanding technique in the build-up.

As no video evidence of the goal exists, computer simulations based on eye-witnesses and Pele himself were used to show how the then-18-year-old chipped the ball over three players and then the goalkeeper before heading it home - all in one fluid movement in which the ball never touched the ground.

There is no doubting that the virtual goal is spectacular. But it is one that comes with asterisks and disclaimers when being discussed as the greatest ever. The simulation is partly based on how Pele described it - and the Brazilian is not a man known for his humility, as he told FIFA.com in 2012 that “I was born to play football, just like Beethoven was born to write music and Michelangelo was born to paint.”

The opposition, Juventus, were not the one known to European audiences, either, but rather a local Brazilian side that Santos easily defeated with Pele scoring five times in a 10-1 rout.

Lots of Pele's goals were scored against inferior opposition, with the Brazilian only leaving Santos to join New York Cosmos at the end of his career, and never plying his trade in Europe.

Whenever an argument about the greatest player of all time comes up, Pele is one of the first names on everyone's lips. But his lack of success outside of Brazil is always cited as a reason why he cannot be considered alongside Diego Maradona, who transformed Napoli into the champions of Italy, or Johan Cruyff, a three-time European Cup winner with Ajax who also claimed domestic titles with Barcelona and Feyenoord.

On Saturday, Lionel Messi signed a new contract with Barcelona, keeping him at Camp Nou until 2021. By that time, the Argentine will be just about to turn 34, having spent 20 years with the Spanish club.

Messi arrived at La Masia as a 13-year-old, and has achieved everything he could ever have hoped at Barcelona. To date, he has won eight La Liga titles, four Champions Leagues and five Ballons d'Or.


Messi loves Barcelona and Barcelona loves Messi. It is unsurprising that he has decided to spend another three seasons with the club that he has made his own.

However, by signing a new deal at Camp Nou, he is also ensuring that his legacy as the world's greatest player will come with an asterisk like Pele's repeated challenge to successors: "When Messi's scored 1,283 goals like me, when he's won three World Cups, we'll talk about it," Pele told Le Monde in 2012.

The 30-year-old helped Argentina secure qualification for the 2018 World Cup with a tremendous hat-trick in their final qualifying game against Ecuador, but he will never match Pele's record of three World Cups - and is also unlikely to even equal Maradona's single World Cup triumph thanks to a lack of strength in the current Albiceleste squad.

"I like Messi a lot, he's a great player. Technically, we're practically at the same level," Pele said. "He's a great player for Barcelona, but when he plays for Argentina, he doesn't have the same success. People always ask me: 'When is the new Pele going to be born?' Never. My father and mother have closed the factory."

At Barcelona, Messi has been surrounded by some of the greatest players of the current generation. For the past 11 years, he has been chosen in the FIFPro World XI, which has featured at least two other Barca stars every year in support of the Argentine, including the likes of Ronaldinho, Xavi, Andres Iniesta, Gerard Pique and Neymar.

When he lifted the Ballon d'Or in 2011, Messi dedicated the trophy to Xavi: "I want to share this with my friend; he deserves it."


Before signing the new three-year deal with Barcelona, Messi was linked with clubs across Europe, including a potential world-record €300 million transfer to Manchester City.

Mino Raiola, the agent responsible for superstars like Paul Pogba and Zlatan Ibrahimovic, urged Messi to move away from Camp Nou, telling Marca: "A player like Messi must try another experience with a different club and prove how great he is."

Because of the decision to stay at Barcelona, football fans will be filled with doubt. Could Messi really have done it on a wet Tuesday night in Stoke? The talent around him at Barca and the lack of success with Argentina will surely lead to people wondering if he is truly eligible for the greatest-ever discussion.

It is a little too easy to say Messi cannot be the greatest ever because he has only played for one club. But it will definitely be a topic of conversation, especially by supporters of great rival Cristiano Ronaldo, who won everything in England before moving to Real Madrid.

By signing a new Barcelona deal, Messi has ensured his legacy will be tainted by questions of 'what if?[/b]


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Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by verygudbadguy(m): 7:46am On Nov 30, 2017
Nice write up. You need to attach pictures to buttress your point to Lalasticlala.

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Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by Netfilix: 7:57am On Nov 30, 2017
verygudbadguy:
Nice write up. You need to attach pictures to buttress your point to Lalasticlala.
Thanks


FTC straight

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Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by KinzyeWriter(m): 8:09am On Nov 30, 2017
This is it.

And that is why Ronaldo who won everything in England before moving to Real Madrid and Won Euro 2016 for his country will be better.

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Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by Nobody: 8:10am On Nov 30, 2017
Did he say he wants to be the greatest ever?Most of you wake to write thrash about someone you know nothing about.....The fact remains,he is happy playing the round leather game where he is!!!!Ronaldo wants to be the greatest but ask yourself that question,is he happy?messi refers to be happy over whatever award you want to give him...He has a release clause,let a club meet that and buy him offf!!!

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Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by KinzyeWriter(m): 8:16am On Nov 30, 2017
Benz4pimp:
Did he say he wants to be the greatest ever?Most of you wake to write thrash about someone you know nothing about.....The fact remains,he is happy playing the round leather game where he is!!!!Ronaldo wants to be the greatest but ask yourself that question,is he happy?messi refers to be happy over whatever award you want to give him...He has a release clause,let a club meet that and buy him offf!!!
but messi just wants to play the round leathet ball kikikikiki
grin
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/10/messi-blames-5-people-best-player-award-miss/

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Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by Victornezzar: 8:17am On Nov 30, 2017
Goal.com with their trashy topics cheesy cheesy
u can compare him to Maradona and pele but u can't compare Ronaldo to both

Messi is a genius

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Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by KinzyeWriter(m): 8:18am On Nov 30, 2017
Myd44 please help us call Mr lalasticlala to help shift this to FTC.. We don't mind if you can drive us to the Promise land either.
Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by ObaKlaz: 8:21am On Nov 30, 2017
Maybe not the very greatest ever, but THE GREATEST OF HIS GENERATION, and he's surely up there with Pele and Maradona. The argument of him leaving Barcelona to "prove himself elsewhere" (especially in that mickey mouse league they call EPL) is just a weak effort by haters and critics to question his greatness. Asides winning the world cup, he has NOTHING! to prove to any disgruntled critic or hater.

His brilliance, wizardry and legacy remain untainted FOREVER.

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Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by Nobody: 8:26am On Nov 30, 2017
Barça no just want OluwaMessi to haunt them later on in any way if not he would have been sold. Abi no be business?

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Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by KinzyeWriter(m): 8:28am On Nov 30, 2017
Victornezzar:
Goal.com with their trashy topics cheesy cheesy
u can compare him to Maradona and pele but u can't compare Ronaldo to both

Messi is a genius
Trashy topics you say... When proved Pele's point?
Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by KinzyeWriter(m): 8:28am On Nov 30, 2017
uniqueboi:
Barça no just want OluwaMessi to haunt them later on in any way if not he would have been sold. Abi no be business?
Smh
Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by Victornezzar: 8:29am On Nov 30, 2017
KinzyeWriter:
Trashy topics you say... When proved Pele's point?
Their stories are always fake and most times stale

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Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by KinzyeWriter(m): 8:33am On Nov 30, 2017
Victornezzar:

Their stories are always fake and most times stale

and if you want to know the truth you do your research by searching for Pele's quoted words in the article there you'll have it.
Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by Nobody: 8:36am On Nov 30, 2017
KinzyeWriter:
Smh
Gospel truth
Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by ObaKlaz: 8:40am On Nov 30, 2017
Greatest Ever?? - No.


Greatest of his generation?? - YES!!

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Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by ObaKlaz: 8:46am On Nov 30, 2017
KinzyeWriter:
and if you want to know the truth you do your research by searching for Pele's quoted words in the article there you'll have it.
Oga, the only bragging rights Pele has over Messi are those 1k+ goals and the world cups (which makes him the greatest)

Asides that, Messi is greater skill-wise, and Pele even admitted that Messi IS ON THE SAME LEVEL WITH HIM technically too.

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Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by Xsem(m): 8:56am On Nov 30, 2017
. Did he tell you that he wants to be the greatest? Be happy where ever you are and don't let haters or critics push you around. Contentment is the key, why would I want to prove anything to anyone when I am in the best club, doing fine, paid heavily, playing happily and have achieved everything I want. Just like how Christ dissapointed those that wanted him to showcase his powers and prove that he is God.
And who is struggling anything with Pele or maradona? They should have existed in this generation alongside Messi and Ronaldo, so we would judge fairly. Football used to be easy back then, no more like now undecided

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Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by KinzyeWriter(m): 8:59am On Nov 30, 2017
ObaKlaz:
Oga, the only bragging rights Pele has over Messi are those 1k+ goals and the world cups (which makes him the greatest)

Asides that, Messi is greater skill-wise, and Pele even admitted that Messi IS ON THE SAME LEVEL WITH HIM technically too.
Lol the only bragging right that is weightier than messi career goals 2x grin

3 world cup should be overlooked ?

When say technical, yes messi is technical and Pele claimed that, but that doesn't play a vital role in a footballer greatness, but with achievement in different Jersey whether at international level or club level... That is why maradona is better... That is why Ronaldo is better... Afterall

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Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by Victornezzar: 9:02am On Nov 30, 2017
KinzyeWriter:
and if you want to know the truth you do your research by searching for Pele's quoted words in the article there you'll have it.
It's so trashy
Messi is the greatest in his generation

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Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by Nobody: 9:06am On Nov 30, 2017
KinzyeWriter:
but messi just wants to play the round leathet ball kikikikiki
grin
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/10/messi-blames-5-people-best-player-award-miss/
stop all this complete sport news!!!messi blames!!!!like he pays their wages!!!!complete sport news!!!
Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by KinzyeWriter(m): 9:08am On Nov 30, 2017
Victornezzar:

It's so trashy
Messi is the greatest in his generation
okay cheesy
Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by MENZPRIDE(m): 9:41am On Nov 30, 2017
KinzyeWriter:
Lol the only bragging right that is weightier than messi career goals 2x grin

3 world cup should be overlooked ?

When say technical, yes messi is technical and Pele claimed that, but that doesn't play a vital role in a footballer greatness, but with achievement in different Jersey whether at international level or club level... That is why maradona is better... That is why Ronaldo is better... Afterall

In all of these analysis, what does Messi wants?

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Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by ObaKlaz: 10:02am On Nov 30, 2017
KinzyeWriter:
Lol the only bragging right that is weightier than messi career goals 2x grin

3 world cup should be overlooked ?

When say technical, yes messi is technical and Pele claimed that, but that doesn't play a vital role in a footballer greatness, but with achievement in different Jersey whether at international level or club level... That is why maradona is better... That is why Ronaldo is better... Afterall
Read my post again. It never said world cup should be overlooked. And you are wrong; FOOTBALLING TALENTS AND SKILLS (which includes technique) ARE CONSIDERED IN DETERMINING HOW GREAT A FOOTBALLER IS. Please tell me how many clubs Pele himself played for? What hasn't Messi won with Barcelona?!

Obviously you didn't read my post or you didn't comprehend, cos if you did, you'd see I stated that world cups are the ONLY bragging rights those guys have over Messi (which makes Pele the greatest).

You mentioned Ronaldo, I believe you meant Ronaldo deLima?

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Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by Quatermani: 10:15am On Nov 30, 2017
shocked
Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by TonyeBarcanista(m): 10:16am On Nov 30, 2017
Messi is already the Greatest ever..

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Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by psychologist(m): 10:16am On Nov 30, 2017
All this Ronaldo's sponsored journalism is migraine inducing...


When your father is the current best player, but you know the greatest player ever and your role model is sitting on same role with u

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Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by collitexnaira(m): 10:16am On Nov 30, 2017
He has been the greatest before, not once not twice , so what do you mean by he won't be the greatest ever

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Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by free2ryhme: 10:17am On Nov 30, 2017
Benz4pimp:
Did he say he wants to be the greatest ever?Most of you wake to write thrash about someone you know nothing about.....The fact remains,he is happy playing the round leather game where he is!!!!Ronaldo wants to be the greatest but ask yourself that question,is he happy?messi refers to be happy over whatever award you want to give him...He has a release clause,let a club meet that and buy him offf!!!

What has being happy got to do with this

He earns millions

You that does not have work are you happy

Dey there to look for how happy or no happy when dem no complain give

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Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by KinzyeWriter(m): 10:17am On Nov 30, 2017
MENZPRIDE:


In all of these analysis, what does Messi wants?
Messi wants international trophy... Messi needs to explore other club except Barcelona as you read in the article.

Pele was hindered for not playing in Europe, but his strength is the 3 world cup he won even though he is not the all time goal scorer.

Maradona has the most tiny weakness, to have played in Europe and won trophies and also a world cup in his international level.


Ronaldo has proven himself in the EPL by winning everything, in sporting, in Madrid, and international level.


Messi on the other hand risen into greatness with great players, and failed bunch of times in the international level... Now he hinders himself for being a one club man..

He is just a Barcelona legend bro grin

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Re: Messi's Decision To Stay At Barcelona Ensures He'll Never Be The Greatest Ever by HopeAlive14(m): 10:17am On Nov 30, 2017
Not all people are hungry for fame.

If Messi is contented being in Barcelona, who are we to question his decision?

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