I just checked out Ndidi's snapchat It looks like Kelechi was not feeling fine,I think that was why he was not listed.
And it seems Kelechi doesn't like picking his calls.Ndidi and Ahmed musa(not sure)were teasing him in pidgin like:"give us he number way be say if person call you,you go pick your call,or even anything happen to you,give us that special number way if we call you go pick because you don't answer your phone"The other guy said :"I call you yesterday you no answer,them come tell me say you no well".
That was their conversation

edi287:

Martins plays "gra gra" football and Nacho is a superb technical player abi??

do you need a prophet to tell you that......?

nacho is currently ahead of martins....

Humility017:

do you need a prophet to tell you that......?

nacho is currently ahead of martins....

Again, let me get this straight - you're saying Nacho has better technique than Martins?? I.e better touch, ball control, etc??

terzurum5:
AF
Nigeria’s best and worst case draw scenarios



Nigeria midfielder John Obi Mikel
by Scent ition

Ahead of tomorrow’s draw for the 2018 World Cup, AfricanFootball looks at both the best and worst case group stage scenarios for Nigeria’s Super Eagles.


Which pot are Nigeria in?
The Super Eagles are in Pot 4 because their world ranking in October (41) put them amongst the eight lowest-rated teams to qualify for Russia 2018.


Which teams can they be drawn against?
- One of the teams in Pot 1: Russia, Germany, Brazil, Portugal, Argentina, Belgium, Poland and France

- One of the teams in Pot 2: Spain, Peru, Switzerland, England, Colombia, Mexico, Uruguay and Croatia

- One of the following teams in Pot 3: Denmark, Iceland, Costa Rica, Sweden, Iran


Which teams can they not be drawn against?
All of the other teams in Pot 4 - Morocco, Serbia, Australia, Japan, Panama, South Korea and Saudi Arabia - as well as the three Africans teams in Pot 3: Tunisia, Egypt and Senegal.


What’s their best-case scenario?
From Pot 1, Nigeria will want to draw Russia. The 2018 hosts are easily the weakest team in that pool. Short of getting the home side, Belgium and Poland are probably a touch overrated and have traditionally struggled at big tournaments.


From Pot 2 they’ll want to draw Peru, who haven’t been to the World Cup since 1982, or one of England, Switzerland or Croatia - they’re all fine teams, but not as powerful and dangerous as the likes of Spain, Uruguay and Mexico.


From Pot 3 the Super Eagles will want to draw Iceland, who are making their tournament debut and have overachieved just by qualifying. But in truth, none of the other teams from Pot 3 are particularly strong.


Summary: Russia, Peru and Iceland for Nigeria’s dream group draw.


And their worst?
It couldn’t get much worse than drawing reigning world champions Germany from Pot 1, 2010 winners Spain from Pot 2 and then Costa Rica from Pot 3 (because you can only have two European teams in a group).


Or how about Brazil from Pot 1, Spain from Pot 2 and Denmark from Pot 3? Either way, that’s about as bad as it can get for Nigeria.


Summary: Germany, Spain and Costa Rica, or Brazil, Spain and Denmark - either would represent the worst case for the Super Eagles.

africanfootball.com/news/736091/Nigerias-best-and-worst-case-draw-scenarios

Form and injuries can't be predicted so u can never tell which is best or worse.

Taliban:


Na so we see am o.

in that Chinese league...between ighalo and martins who has scored more goals this past season....?

what will martins bring to the table that the eagles are lacking?

ighalo offer all he could offer....so why the fuss for his call up?

ighalo mikel are still in the super eagles reason because prior their call up....to the national team...they were in a much a better and recognised league.....and their quality was never in doubt.....

edi287:

Again, let me get this straight - you're saying Nacho has better technique than Martins?? I.e better touch, ball control, etc??

when it comes to the colors of the SE....nacho is a more better player....

overall case scenario he is better...

That's if offers come for them. They also wouldn't go for other reasons, you think Ighalo that went to China same with Mikel are less quality to the players you're talking about?

No one is against 'Nigerian' players in England. Some are playing because they are needed and those not playing have better replacement!

BascoVanVeli:


If these guys simply wanted money they would be in China or Saudi. Our guys are being treated badly, it is almost like these leagues(especially England) are trying to prove that our players are not as good. The English FA has even covered up racism against a Nigerian in the past so I don't see what I am saying as far fetched.

somehow:
That's if offers come for them. They also wouldn't go for other reasons, you think Ighalo that went to China same with Mikel are less quality to the players you're talking about?

No one is against 'Nigerian' players in England. Some are playing because they are needed and those not playing have better replacement!

Mikel and Ighalo could not stay in England because of their clubs, not because other clubs didn't want them. U can't condemn a player for going England, we should want our players in the best competitions. I don't mind them not playing but the treatment for the most part has been disrespectful and suspicious to say the least.

calmness is not just a question of age or where someone is?
I have seen aged people and also obviously experience people fret or anxious when least expected. In contrast,
I have also seen youngsters stake a claim even at the highest level with calmness.

If you've not tried someone, don't write them off.

goldfish80:


My brother, forget stereotype.
Every player have their weakness, Europe or no Europe. Enyeama is hardly an imposing figure, it's academic he will struggle in the early stages of his development with crosses. Even at his finest, he still struggled with crosses. Its just a matter of his height disadvantage.

Ospina is about same height as Enyeama, still he struggles with crosses till date.
This should tell you something.

At the highest level, the job description of a goalkeeper goes beyond claiming crosses and making saves. At the world stage, you talk about calmness, leadership and organisation from the back. This starts from the goalkeeper.

Do you really think some 18yr old playing in German Regional West can bring calm, organisation and leadership playing at the world stage?

Eseose9:
I just checked out Ndidi's snapchat It looks like Kelechi was not feeling fine,I think that was why he was not listed.
And it seems Kelechi doesn't like picking his calls.Ndidi and Ahmed musa(not sure)were teasing him in pidgin like:"give us he number way be say if person call you,you go pick your call,or even anything happen to you,give us that special number way if we call you go pick because you don't answer your phone"The other guy said :"I call you yesterday you no answer,them come tell me say you no well".
That was their conversation

Uh Oh, I pray he gets well soon.


Those guys like 2 de scatter pidgin, no wonder Vardy talk say him too wan learn.

mank1234:
calmness is not just a question of age or where someone is?
I have seen aged people and also obviously experience people fret or anxious when least expected. In contrast,
I have also seen youngsters stake a claim even at the highest level with calmness.

If you've not tried someone, don't write them off.

If so then, Dele and Uzoho are ahead of him.

Humility017:

when it comes to the colors of the SE....nacho is a more better player....

overall case scenario he is better...

That's not what I asked.. we've already agreed Ighalo and Nacho are our first and second choice player. But I'm asking...is Nacho more technically gifted than Martins??

Taliban:


Haha is being old a crime!!!!!!. These guys are only in their 30s now. We have seen ageless players like Roger milla who set the wc on fire, that Hungarian keeper at the last euros with kollington trousers, Ryan Giggs, Peter shilton, David seaman, zlatan, the Egyptian keeper, hossam Ahmed and several others so called old people. This is a trend that extends to other sports as well, Serena, Venus, Navratilova mayweather, Gatlin, foreman. I will vex if Martin is called old again o, it's unfair now, haba.

the issue is not Witt the Argentine team being aged, the issue is that they are aged and have no team chemistry because they have not even stayed long enough in the team to have chemistry.

Benedetto is 29 with just four caps, Perrotti is 32 abi how old? With just three caps.

With all the subs they made, I understood more and more why the team couldn't crack us open in the second half.

edi287:

Martins plays "gra gra" football and Nacho is a superb technical player abi??

Nacho gets results without having to 'out-muscle' anyone.... Every other thing is English

safarigirl:
Nacho gets results without having to 'out-muscle' anyone.... Every other thing is English

Martins has a better touch and can actually dribble pass players and "out-muscle" opponents when Necessary...

edi287:

Martins has a better touch and can actually dribble pass players and "out-muscle" opponents when Necessary...

hahaha....but Kelechi has the better goal scoring record.

Results is what matters

safarigirl:
hahaha....but Kelechi has the better goal scoring record.

Results is what matters

True but Martins has a similar goal scoring record to our first choice striker Ighalo. He deserves a look in jor

safarigirl:
hahaha....but Kelechi has the better goal scoring record.

Results is what matters

True but Martins has a similar goal scoring record to our first choice striker Ighalo. He deserves a look in jor...

edi287:

True but Martins has a similar goal scoring record to our first choice striker pIghalo. He deserves a look in jor...

is Ighalo our first choice striker? I don't think so

We don't have a first choice striker as far as I'm concerned. We played him twice as a first choice, played Kelechi three times in same role in this third round.

You know who else deserves a look in? Dessers

Where in my post did I condemn England? I only said if a club isn't playing you, find one that needs you. There are English clubs with less quality strikers in the EPL if they must stay, let them work their way into such clubs and become masters there.

Moses did it with wigan when Chelsea didn't need him, now he's a first team player in the same club same with Lukaku, Chelsea felt they didn't need him, he left for everton and became lord and master and got signed for a huge amount to man U.

Same with Salah, Chelsea or the coach didn't use him when he was signed, now he's bossing the EPL with goals and a starter with Liverpool.

Simply go to clubs that need you more than you need them, steal the show, a better club will make room for you and won't bench you again once you become consistent.

Nigerians aren't the only ones sitting on the bench in the UK, others are too, just don't find yourself in a club that does not need you.

BascoVanVeli:


Mikel and Ighalo could not stay in England because of their clubs, not because other clubs didn't want them. U can't condemn a player for going England, we should want our players in the best competitions. I don't mind them not playing but the treatment for the most part has been disrespectful and suspicious to say the least.

safarigirl:
is Ighalo our first choice striker? I don't think so

We don't have a first choice striker as far as I'm concerned. We played him twice as a first choice, played Kelechi three times in same role in this third round.

You know who else deserves a look in? Dessers

As at this moment, Ighalo is first choice. He plays the lone striker role better than Nacho. Only way Nacho starts over him is in a 3-5-2.
I like Dessers as well. I want Rohr to give him and Martins a chance.

Is this some francophone African country or wah??

Lol France is unicef

junnyjake:
Is this some francophone African country or wah??

somehow:
Lol France is unicef

hahahaha.


And these guys are doing very well. Same with the Morocco team filled with FBs. I'm not bothered with the amount of FBs we have in our team, so long as they are the best we have.

junnyjake:


hahahaha.


And these guys are doing very well. Same with the Morocco team filled with FBs. I'm not bothered with the amount of FBs we have in our team, so long as they are the best we have.

at least the Moroccan FBs look Arab...these French one, you KNOW they aren't originally French as soon as you see them....I mean, that shade of dark can only come from one continent. For us to equal that, our team will have to be filled with Ross Barkleys

Eseose9:
I just checked out Ndidi's snapchat It looks like Kelechi was not feeling fine,I think that was why he was not listed.
And it seems Kelechi doesn't like picking his calls.Ndidi and Ahmed musa(not sure)were teasing him in pidgin like:"give us he number way be say if person call you,you go pick your call,or even anything happen to you,give us that special number way if we call you go pick because you don't answer your phone"The other guy said :"I call you yesterday you no answer,them come tell me say you no well".
That was their conversation

How Kelechi go dey pick him call when village pipul no go gree him rest with their demands.

edi287:

True but Martins has a similar goal scoring record to our first choice striker Ighalo. He deserves a look in jor...

do you mean martins of old or Martins of now....?
because the martins of now I watched against Swaziland...could not do any of these flicks you put up there....

ighalo will do that for us anyway when need be....

edi287:

As at this moment, Ighalo is first choice. He plays the lone striker role better than Nacho. Only way Nacho starts over him is in a 3-5-2.
I like Dessers as well. I want Rohr to give him and Martins a chance.

he should also give Paul and kayode a chance....and likewise Dennis and yinka....
then he could take 32 players to the world cup.....?

if we are going to adopt also the formation we played against the Argentines. ...it means we will need few top 9....

you could see the likes of iwobi, nacho were already registered as CF....

so Martins may likely wait for Qatar 2022

Apparently, Kelechi was not listed because of illness.

Dennis Bonaventure with a brace for Club Brugge

somehow:
Where in my post did I condemn England? I only said if a club isn't playing you, find one that needs you. There are English clubs with less quality strikers in the EPL if they must stay, let them work their way into such clubs and become masters there.

Moses did it with wigan when Chelsea didn't need him, now he's a first team player in the same club same with Lukaku, Chelsea felt they didn't need him, he left for everton and became lord and master and got signed for a huge amount to man U.

Same with Salah, Chelsea or the coach didn't use him when he was signed, now he's bossing the EPL with goals and a starter with Liverpool.

Simply go to clubs that need you more than you need them, steal the show, a better club will make room for you and won't bench you again once you become consistent.

Nigerians aren't the only ones sitting on the bench in the UK, others are too, just don't find yourself in a club that does not need you.

I was speaking in general not exactly about u. Mo Salah and Victor Moses were at Chelsea so we can understand the difficulty they were having but when clubs like Leicester City won't even afford a player as experienced as Musa a place on their bench then something fishy must be going on. The media play a role in the indirect hate that goes on, I remember Ian Wright opening his mouth to say Musa, Iheanacho and Ndidi were not good enough for Leicester. When our boys miss matches their media overlook it completely. No journalist ever asked a Leicester coach the simple question of why he feels Ahmed Musa is not good enough for the team.

Icon79:
Nna, so many factors go into team selection .... believe me! Meanwhile, did you read the BBC article on how Ethnic minority coaches still face 'barriers' in English football? So do you think that those barriers are limited to the ethnic minority coaches and don't extend to the players as well?

Anyway, I hope and pray that Kelechi would be bold enough to have a crucial end of year conversation with the coach. Go in there and ask him why you're not playing. And if he doesn't give you a good explanation then request a loan move in January. I am pretty sure that there are many EPL teams who would be happy to take him and give him playing time. Kelechi needs to play football next year, I don't care if it's in the Championship sef.

And by the way, if Kelechi is as piss poor as some of y'all makes him out to be, why then were ManCity hesitant to let him go? Remember that they even tried to put a buy back clause in his contract!

#JustSaying ....

O pari

Football is a short term vocation in the space of one season of poor performance and a player can loose 75% of his value.

You are only as good as your last game a few months of poor performance and you can be forgotten a whole season and you can be archived.

70% of coaches in the EPL and Championship willl get thier jobs by network. At this stage of the game race will be a big issue. However, those dynamics are very different around the London city Region where at Tottenham for instance half the coaches are black.

When it comes to Management that figure becomes very skewed and racism is alive well and kicking. What many of you do not realise those figures are a representative reflection of senior level executive management positions across the UK.

How many of the 000's of black and or Nigerian qualified doctors and managers become executive directors in the NHS How many black and or Nigerian over qualified comparative to thier white pears, black and or Nigerians are executive directors of Banks, BBC, Central and Local government, etc, etc in the UK. I can go through nearly every sector and you will find the same observation. So whether you were born in England or not your black and not really British unless you want to decieve yourself.

However, when it comes to player selection racism is not as pronounced. Managers in General (there are exceptions) will choose the best players they can get period. I know of a number of football club academies that will target black players for thier athleticism.

With regards to KC this has nothing to do with racism. Simply put KC does not have the primary attributes to succeed as a striker at Leicester City. Which is what the Leicester bought him for to be a striker.

KC does not have the pace of Vardy to lead the front line, he does not have the physicality to leasd the front line comparative to Okazaki and or Islamani. Some may not like to be told that KC lacks the technical superiority, skill and trickery comparative to Mahrez and Grey. So if you were a manager would you be choosing him over these players. He has been given opportunity but has fallen short, in the EPL you don't get a lot of time. Now he must work increase Bristol capacity learn to use his right foot change his style of playing adapt otherwise it's down hill.

When KC was at City he was surrounded by world class midfielders who compensated for his short comings and played to his strengths. That not withstanding he lacked the pace of Sane, Gabriel and Raheem. Games are won with small margins of competitive advantage. KC did not bring those advantages to the table to the standard required by City. However, he might do it for someone else hence the buy back clause which is about taking a chunk of any possible future transfer fee.

KC has been lucky to have the opportunity to be playing for the SE. And doing well. However, that doesn't mean someone else given the same opportunity may not have done better.