OkaiCorne:


I know you'll be here

This brings me back to our talk on priorities....

Should tithes be the number 1 priority in our life? At the expense of food, clothing and shelter?

Did widows and orphans pay tithes back in those days?

Hmmmm. Na waoo. When God Chose Levi to continue the ordinance of Tithe taking, did he specify who should pay and who shd not?

Are they half children and full Children of God?

Obedience hard oooo.

Tithe paying is just a mark of obedience o. just obedience.

Man is till stuck inside Eden with the forbidden fruit held tightly in his right hand.

It's well o.

OkaiCorne:


Let's assume you have a to do list, and you have limited time and money (budgeted time and money) to fulfill everything on the list.. automatically, you prioritize and focus on more critical and weightier issues. Important but less weightier issues can be dealt with later or discarded altogether.


Do you understand?

See, the things of the scriptures should not be treated as "economics" where u have a scale of preference, opportunity costs/ forgone alternative.... You don't forgo one to do the other... To do list ke... In matters of the scriptures Well, you've said it before that you're not a Christian.... That's why you are trying to use common sense/human understanding to understand the things of the spirit... It's not done that way.... That was how you asked me before if God will bring down ladder from Heaven to collect tithes(Do you ask the same question about offerings??)...

analize701:

So, you'd do Opportunity Cost with God? You are a master of yourself sir. If you were a servant, you'd do what your master subscribes not picking out what's convenient for you.

the thing tire me o..

OkaiCorne:


Nice dodging there...so I guess tithing is of a weightier matter than where I'll put my head to sleep abi?

Can you please answer the question I asked you on tithing? Abi wisdom is no longer profitable to direct?

Is tithing your number 1 priority in life?

Your question sounds like 'Is obedience to God, your number one priority in life? Obedience to God's instruction in all it's facets should be every Christian's no 1 priority in Life, except you are not his servant.

Every of his ways, you don't some and leave some.

You are now by yourself placing priority on what you deem necessary. Stewards don't act as you do.

It's just like God healing you of an ailment, He expects that you return with thanksgiving to him, failure to do so, it's taken for pride.

God gave you power to make wealth, you have 100naira as profit, and he says return back 10 naira to him, see all the grammar and logic you are employing just to keep 10naira. But you expects for him to keep giving you o.

Na wa for man o. We dey here dey blame Adam. non of us better pass Adam. We are worst.

OkaiCorne:


The root cause of this tithe debate is money. If everyone is truly focused on Jesus, we won't be having this "tithe" controversy.

By the way, help me answer these questions;

1) If everyone stopped giving tithes and offering would the church shut down?

2) Did God use money (especially tithes) to create the Heavens and the Earth?

3) Is God limited to money?

Its about disobedience not money. Satan wants to keep the Church where he wants it, hence, the attack through his servants.

How will the church run without money?

Did Jesus have a purse for money? Did they need money for administration?

paxonel:

Who is then eating the tithe money if not pastors?
OK o,


The only root that connects me to old testament is that, it was through old testament that new testament or new covenant came from .

I'm not interested in all what happened in the old testament, how God purnished people who criticized his prophets and so on.

I'm interested in Christ

In Christ there is no distinction among adherents we are all one. If you like call yourself man or God or daddy whatever if you practice evil you go for it.

Tithe is one evil that has been cheating the church for years, gradually it will soon come to an end.
People are gradually knowing the truth

No depth? You are like a man who built via house on sand, It shall speak with adversity comes and they shall come. If you remember standing and no fall and scream out that God has failed you so you want to become an atheist. lolzzzzzzzzzz.

Rocky Christians.

Jesusgirl92:
the thing tire me o..

Spirit of disobedience at work.

analize701:

I'm tired of asking this question yet getting no answers from you.

Does Tithing begin with the law? If your answer is No, shd it end with the law?

Tithing did not start with the law, and tithing is not going to end after the Law but;

1) Is tithing 10% of your income, or there are more laid out requirements on what it is, and how it should be paid? If yes, why are we disobeying God by paying it in monetary format?

2) Do you know that something better in the new covenant has replaced tithing, just as animal sacrifices have been replaced?


In addition to these questions, kindly answer the ones I've asked before. THANK YOU

I can refresh your memory in case you have forgotten.

analize701:

Its about disobedience not money. Satan wants to keep the Church where he wants it, hence, the attack through his servants.

How will the church run without money?

Did Jesus have a purse for money? Did they need money for administration?

The first thing I need you to understand is that God is not limited to money.

God given talents when utilized, attracts money. Now are you telling me the people called to serve at the altar are barren trees that can bear no fruits?

OkaiCorne:


The first thing I need you to understand is that God is not limited to money.

God given talents when utilized, attracts money. Now are you telling me the people called to serve at the altar are barren trees that can bear no fruits?

I think you have a problem with HOW you read the Bible.

What that says is that, WHERE MAN DEY WORK, NA THERE HIM GO CHOP.

No one is talking about God being about money here, the bone of contention here is doing what God demands, OBEDIENCE.

analize701:

I think you have a problem with HOW you read the Bible.

What that says is that, WHERE MAN DEY WORK, NA THERE HIM GO CHOP.

No one is talking about God being about money here, the bone of contention here is doing what God demands, OBEDIENCE.

It is good that your concern about money is coming out clearly.

I'll address this concern of yours shortly.

OkaiCorne:


Tithing did not start with the law, and tithing is not going to end after the Law but;

1) Is tithing 10% of your income, or there are more laid out requirements on what it is, and how it should be paid? If yes, why are we disobeying God by paying it in monetary format?

2) Do you know that something better in the new covenant has replaced tithing, just as animal sacrifices have been replaced?


In addition to these questions, kindly answer the ones I've asked before. THANK YOU

I can refresh your memory in case you have forgotten.

Pls, what is an income? first.

You replaced the something in the place. of Tithe or Jesus did?

Jesusgirl92:
See, the things of the scriptures should not be treated as "economics" where u have a scale of preference, opportunity costs/ forgone alternative.... You don't forgo one to do the other... To do list ke... In matters of the scriptures Well, you've said it before that you're not a Christian.... That's why you are trying to use common sense/human understanding to understand the things of the spirit... It's not done that way.... That was how you asked me before if God will bring down ladder from Heaven to collect tithes(Do you ask the same question about offerings??)...

See, this life is arithmetics, let's not turn it to further maths.

If you go to the market with a long to do list of things to purchase and you have limited money...can you buy everything with your limited resources? You go for what is critical and "weightier" first!

This thing is not too difficult to understand na

OkaiCorne:


See, this life is arithmetics, let's not turn it to further maths.

If you go to the market with a long to do list of things to purchase and you have limited money...can you buy everything with your limited resources? You go for what is critical and "weightier" first!

This thing is not too difficult to understand na

so you've likened God's command to going to the market with limited resources .... Bros, bros... You try.

OkaiCorne:

It is good that your concern about money is coming out clearly.
I'll address this concern of yours shortly.

Pls, what is an income?

analize701:

Spirit of disobedience at work.

And you that has the Spirit of Obedience working in you. I guess tithing has more importance than giving to the needy as explained by Jesus right?

In your mind, you'd rather ignore a starving orphan and pay "tithes" to the church...then you really think you have Loved God with all your hear, and you have loved your neighbor as yourself?

Do you recall when Jesus said that many will come claiming they have done things in His name, but because they never fed the hungry, gave water to the thirsty or catered for the needs of the sick...that Jesus said He knows them not?


Will you claim to love God and leave your neighbor dying while you pay "tithes" instead? Tithes that is paid in a manner that has no scriptural backing? (i.e. monetary tithes)

Jesusgirl92:
so you've likened God's command to going to the market with limited resources .... Bros, bros... You try.

Weightier matters should be given more priorities... it's common sense my dear.

When these matters are dealt with, those of lesser importance can then be considered.

By the way, did God need tithes to create Heaven and Earth and everything in it?

So you want to choose the one to obey at the expense of the other shebi.... OkaiCorne, is that how you serve God?? You do selective obedience??

analize701:

Pls, what is an income?

Your earnings... generated through your assets.

Next question please...

Jesusgirl92:
So you want to choose the one to obey at the expense of the other shebi.... OkaiCorne, is that how you serve God?? You do selective obedience??

I'd rather give to the needy as Jesus authorized his followers to do.

I think you prefer being manipulated into doing what is wrong abi? Because you are paying 10% of your salary...in your mind you are obeying God by "tithing" abi?

Jesusgirl92:
So you want to choose the one to obey at the expense of the other shebi.... OkaiCorne, is that how you serve God?? You do selective obedience??

1) Is God limited to money?
2) Did God use tithes to create Heaven and Earth?
3) Will the Church shut down if people refuse to pay tithes and offerings?

analize701:

Pls, what is an income? first.

You replaced the something in the place. of Tithe or Jesus did?

JESUS DID! Study your scriptures carefully...and see the weightier matters Jesus was vocal about in His teachings!

OkaiCorne:


I'd rather give to the needy as Jesus authorized his followers to do.

I think you prefer being manipulated into doing what is wrong abi? Because you are paying 10% of your salary...in your mind you are obeying God by "tithing" abi?

@bolded.... And ignore the "less important one" I guess.... Is it not better for you to do both?? Why choose good when there's best??

OkaiCorne:


Your earnings... generated through your assets.

Next question please...

Why do you want to run off? i have a reason for asking that.

If i were a teacher and am paid a salary in monetary form, How am i suppose to pay my Tithe?

OkaiCorne:


1) Is God limited to money?
2) Did God use tithes to create Heaven and Earth?
3) Will the Church shut down if people refuse to pay tithes and offerings?

who ever said God was limited to money?? Obey His command simple!!!! Is it that hard??

analize701:

Your question sounds like 'Is obedience to God, your number one priority in life? Obedience to God's instruction in all it's facets should be every Christian's no 1 priority in Life, except you are not his servant.

Every of his ways, you don't some and leave some.

You are now by yourself placing priority on what you deem necessary. Stewards don't act as you do.

It's just like God healing you of an ailment, He expects that you return with thanksgiving to him, failure to do so, it's taken for pride.

God gave you power to make wealth, you have 100naira as profit, and he says return back 10 naira to him, see all the grammar and logic you are employing just to keep 10naira. But you expects for him to keep giving you o.

Na wa for man o. We dey here dey blame Adam. non of us better pass Adam. We are worst.

I am not against giving to the work of God, but manipulating people to do so by deceiving them into thinking they are paying "tithes" is the EVIL I am addressing here!

If Martin Luther had not broken out of the Catholic church...it is your type that would think it is perfectly normal to pay money (penance) for the forgiveness of your sins...since this is a tradition you would have been born into...


Wake up and smell the TRUTH!

Jesusgirl92:
who ever said God was limited to money?? Obey His command simple!!!! Is it that hard??

But the actions of the tithers and anti-tithers gives me that impression.

Infact, Jesus requires your all...not a mere 10%.

If money is not the focus, then why are we really having these tithe and ant-tithe fights

Do you really think the Church of Christ will shut down because there is no money?

Who is really fooling whom?

God whom you call Jehovah Jireh...that can provide for your needs even out of nothing, the same God who could feed a stranded prophet with ravens, or bless the widow and multiply her oil, or could give Jesus a coin through the mouth of a fish to pay taxes, or multiply fishes and loaves of bread to feed over 5,000 people or even answer and exceed all the monetary needs of my mother the very same day I and her paid a visit to an orphanage to celebrate my birthday.

It is that same God you think desperately needs tithes for His Church to function abi?

OkaiCorne:


But the actions of the tithers and anti-tithers gives me that impression.

Infact, Jesus requires your all...not a mere 10%.

If money is not the focus, then why are we really having these tithe and ant-tithe fights

Do you really think the Church of Christ will shut down because there is no money?

Who is really fooling whom?

Let the word of God be your guide not activities of people...

Jesusgirl92:
Let the word of God be your guide not activities of people...

What has been guiding me all these while if I might ask?

And if God is truly not limited to money...then why all these tithe and anti-tithe fights if people have not replaced the power of God with the power of money in the church?

Do you know how irritating this is to God?

OkaiCorne:


What has been guiding me all these while if I might ask?

And if God is truly not limited to money...then why all these tithe and anti-tithe fights if people have not replaced the power of God with the power of money in the church?

Do you know how irritating this is to God?

People's actions have been your guide?

Jesusgirl92:
@bolded.... And ignore the "less important one" I guess.... Is it not better for you to do both?? Why choose good when there's best??

Exactly! When I'm into large scale farming...I can then do the less important tithing as stipulated in the scriptures. It may not be weighty in the new covenant requirement, but it is still an eternal principle that will work forever...

Till then, nobody can tell me to pay tithe with money...when the scriptures cannot support that. I will gladly flood the church with foodstuffs that everyone would eat to stupor...that is kind of the tithe I dream of paying...

Jesusgirl92:
People's actions have been your guide?

If it's people's actions...then I would be among the crowd nodding my head to everything my pastor says and be paying "tithes' too...