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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:36pm On Dec 02, 2017
Roland17:
To be fair, Tottenham has reached its max potentials considering the resources available to Poch. The financial policy of Tottenham is holding the club back, they have to either change or become flexible enough.

At least I know Poch is better than the German Grinch at Liverpool.

Emm..I heard Klopp is being considered as Bayern's long-term coach to succeed Jupp Heynckes

What is the evidence that Poch is better than Klopp?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 4:42pm On Dec 02, 2017
raumdeuter:


What is the evidence that Poch is better than Klopp?


Available resources, net expense on players compared to results/ achievement over the same period of time.

Klopp is a fraud and has failed at Liverpool as far I am concerned. His eccentric demeanor covers his coaching ineptitude, sadly, its taking Liverpool this long to figure him out.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 4:45pm On Dec 02, 2017
@raumdeuter, Hannover have equalized just so you know. James is having ill luck in this game and Coman's finishing is even more disappointing.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MorataFC: 4:49pm On Dec 02, 2017
raumdeuter:


Tell us the game where Citys goal came outside of the alloted time

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:55pm On Dec 02, 2017
Roland17:
Available resources, net expense on players compared to results/ achievement over the same period of time.
Klopp is a fraud and has failed at Liverpool as far I am concerned. His eccentric demeanor covers his coaching ineptitude, sadly, its taking Liverpool this long to figure him out.

How much resources does Liverpool have or has he spent at Liverpool.

Klopp has spent 1 full season at Liverpool and this is second full season right? Do you know in that time Spurs has outspent Liverpool, evidence attached.

In that time Spurs has finished 2nd Liverpool finished 4th. In EUrope Liverpool has made the Europa final Spurs hasnt, Both of them are in the CL this year and are poised to make it out of the group

That is ignoring the fact that Poch has spent a much longer time at Spurs

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:56pm On Dec 02, 2017
Roland17:
@ramdeuter, Hannover have equalized just so you know. James is having ill luck in this game and Coman's finishing is even more disappointing.

I am watching it and we have struck the post 3 times already in this game
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:57pm On Dec 02, 2017
MorataFC:
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Did you watch the game? If you watched you will see that Afobe was injured in extra time and it took over 2 mins to fix him or get him off the field
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:57pm On Dec 02, 2017
Roland17:
@raumdeuter, Hannover have equalized just so you know. James is having ill luck in this game and Coman's finishing is even more disappointing.

COman replies you
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 4:59pm On Dec 02, 2017
raumdeuter:


Tell us the game where Citys goal came outside of the alloted time
the Bournemouth game.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:14pm On Dec 02, 2017
Greatihex:
the Bournemouth game.

5mins was giving as extra, Afobe fot injured in 93rd and play restarted 95. Sterling scored 96.33. He had an elaborate celebration, jumped into the crowd + got a red card which lasted till 98th min. Match was stopped 100.17
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hardeycute(m): 5:14pm On Dec 02, 2017
Greatihex:
the Bournemouth game.
I should be no1 Fraudiola hater but did you watch the match?

The incident between Pep and Howe?which Mike Oliver dean interfered
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:15pm On Dec 02, 2017
Was just watching barca today and enjoying the Messi magic. Then, I began to imagine a Messi on the right side of our 343. With fabregas and Kante in midfield, why won't we win treble?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:19pm On Dec 02, 2017
hardeycute:
I should be no1 Fraudiola hater but did you watch the match?

The incident between Pep and Howe?which Mike Oliver dean interfered
yes I did. I am not arguing about the ref decision. Just answering raumdeuter's question.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 5:20pm On Dec 02, 2017
raumdeuter:


How much resources does Liverpool have or has he spent at Liverpool.

Klopp has spent 1 full season at Liverpool and this is second full season right? Do you know in that time Spurs has outspent Liverpool, evidence attached.

In that time Spurs has finished 2nd Liverpool finished 4th. In EUrope Liverpool has made the Europa final Spurs hasnt, Both of them are in the CL this year and are poised to make it out of the group

That is ignoring the fact that Poch has spent a much longer time at Spurs

Fat lies at the emboldened.

Anyone who does not research keep records of football would almost believe the difference in the time frame is like 5 years, meanwhile, it's only one season between Klopp and Poch. Furthermore, Klopp was hired in October 2015, so he had the winter transfer window which you intentionally avoided to include in your screenshot.

Over the past 2 seasons under review, Poch has never finished below Klopp or outside the top 4. Can the same be said about Klopp? In a bid to undervalue Poch's obvious superiority you said both teams have qualified for the second round of the UCL but wouldn't it be fair to include the fact that he finished ahead of defending champions Real Madrid? Would this Klopp side finish ahead of Madrid if the tables were turned?

How about the head to head for both coaches? Both coaches have drawn each other mostly, however, Poch pummelled Klopp and Liverpool 4-1 in October.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hardeycute(m): 5:21pm On Dec 02, 2017
Greatihex:
yes I did. I am not arguing about the ref decision. Just answering raumdeuter's question.
OK.

Irrespective of refs decision city has shown character of a championship team in those matches they won in injury time
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 5:22pm On Dec 02, 2017
raumdeuter:


COman replies you

I have never questioned his quality or talent and despite the goal, his final ball decisions are poor.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:33pm On Dec 02, 2017
Roland17:


Fat lies at the emboldened.

Anyone who does not research keep records of football would almost believe the difference in the time frame is like 5 years, meanwhile, it's only one season between Klopp and Poch. Furthermore, Klopp was hired in October 2015, so he had the winter transfer window which you intentionally avoided to include in your screenshot.

Over the past 2 seasons under review, Poch has never finished below Klopp or outside the top 4. Can the same be said about Klopp? In a bid to undervalue Poch's obvious superiority you said both teams have qualified for the second round of the UCL but wouldn't it be fair to include the fact that he finished ahead of defending champions Real Madrid? Would this Klopp side finish ahead of Madrid if the tables were turned?

How about the head to head for both coaches? Both coaches have drawn each other mostly, however, Poch pummelled Klopp and Liverpool 4-1 in October.


Point out the lie. How many full season has Klopp spent?

2 . In the winter transfer window of 2015/15 Liverpool spent 7M and Spurs 0. So the total amount spent by both coaches Spurs still edges it so there goes the money spent excuse

3. Klopp has spent 1 full season and finished 4th that same season Poch finished 2nd. this is the second full season. Will Liverpool finish ahead of Madrid you tell me from the crystall ball? Until they play I have no way of telling who will finish, Do you know?

Head to Head since they both faced
October 17 2015 Spurs 0 Liverpool 0
April 2 2015 Liverpool 1 SPurs 1
Agust 27 2016 Spurs 1 Liverpool 1
October 25 2016 Liverpool 2 Spurs 1
February 11 2017 Liverpool 2 Spurs 0
October 22 2017 Spurs 4 Liverpool 1

Head to head count Klopp 2 Pochetinno 1

So tell us who is leading on head to head
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 5:38pm On Dec 02, 2017
airmark:


You won't keep your filthy fingers in your pockets and stop typing rubbish, mentioning me.

When west brom failed to beat this rubbish Newcastle team that was on a losing streak, they sacked the caretaker coach quickly.

Were you blind when fans were complaining in the last few games on Morata for misfiring and falling up and down?.

Hazard didn't impress me much today, he still managed to score against the shittty defence. Keep trying to impress your mentor, dayo. He may bring you one latino, next time he visits.
keep deceiving yourself. Morata 9 goals 4 assist. You told us he is not premier league material

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:40pm On Dec 02, 2017
airmark 82nd min West Brom game still no Krychokewack this is another new coach o

Shey you fit help am check if vacancy dey for Wolves or Hull City
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Lana1(m): 5:40pm On Dec 02, 2017
macjireh:

was trying to get attention and u fell for it
Wau!
So u joined a faceless forum just to get attention and likes??

Must really suck to be you...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 5:40pm On Dec 02, 2017
Tottenham finish outside top four, sell their players especially H.Kane to Madrid grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 5:44pm On Dec 02, 2017
Coutinho!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Lana1(m): 5:47pm On Dec 02, 2017
raumdeuter:


Did you watch the game? If you watched you will see that Afobe was injured in extra time and it took over 2 mins to fix him or get him off the field
Ok. Lets say ref added that 2 mins to the +5 added time. Then the game should ve run for 97 mins but....

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:48pm On Dec 02, 2017
Lana1:
Ok. Lets say ref added that 2 mins to the +5 added time. Then the game should ve run for 97 mins but....

5mins was giving as extra, Afobe got injured in 93rd and play restarted 95. Sterling scored 96.33. He had an elaborate celebration, jumped into the crowd + got a red card which lasted till 98th min. Match was stopped 100.17
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Lana1(m): 5:55pm On Dec 02, 2017
raumdeuter:


5mins was giving as extra, Afobe got injured in 93rd and play restarted 95. Sterling scored 96.33. He had an elaborate celebration, jumped into the crowd + got a red card which lasted till 98th min. Match was stopped 100.17
Ok o. I hear u.
I hope nobody comes to shout PDP the way they were claiming SAF paid refs when Owen scored that late goal vs City in 2009 should added time be extended for other teams to win their games henceforth.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 5:55pm On Dec 02, 2017
raumdeuter:


Point out the lie. How many full season has Klopp spent?

2 . In the winter transfer window of 2015/15 Liverpool spent 7M and Spurs 0. So the total amount spent by both coaches Spurs still edges it so there goes the money spent excuse

3. Klopp has spent 1 full season and finished 4th that same season Poch finished 2nd. this is the second full season. Will Liverpool finish ahead of Madrid you tell me from the crystall ball? Until they play I have no way of telling who will finish, Do you know?

Head to Head since they both faced
October 17 2015 Spurs 0 Liverpool 0
April 2 2015 Liverpool 1 SPurs 1
Agust 27 2016 Spurs 1 Liverpool 1
October 25 2016 Liverpool 2 Spurs 1
February 11 2017 Liverpool 2 Spurs 0
October 22 2017 Spurs 4 Liverpool 1

Head to head count Klopp 2 Pochetinno 1

So tell us who is leading on head to head

You mean the league cup? Klopp has never defeated Poch in the premier league and that is why I said they have drawn mostly. I am not going to allow you get away with "this is Klopp's first full season". He was hired in October 2015, the league was barely a month old when he was hired so don't give me that crap about 1 full season.

Since he was hired in 2015, Klopp has spent 157 million pounds on 12 players and in the same time frame, Poch has spent 116 million pounds. In terms of managing a team, Klopp has nothing on a Sean Dyche worth more Poch. I am an ardent Arsenal fan and you should know arguing for Tottenham is almost a taboo.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 5:57pm On Dec 02, 2017
lordfalcao:
keep deceiving yourself. Morata 9 goals 4 assist. You told us he is not premier league material
Let him rest na... Ejoo grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 6:04pm On Dec 02, 2017
Has there been a worse season with referring? Horrendous mistakes, that was a clear penalty because Dier clearly handled that ball.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Obere4u: 6:07pm On Dec 02, 2017
raumdeuter:


He was highest assist maker in the league when Barcelona won, he wad highest assist maker in the CL when Barcelona won

Was he the MoTM in the CL? Show me his goal and assist record when he won the MoTM award in World cup and Euros or else we will all agree that he was carried in those tournaments.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:09pm On Dec 02, 2017
Roland17:


You mean the league cup? Klopp has never defeated Poch in the premier league and that is why I said they have drawn mostly. I am not going to allow you get away with "this is Klopp's first full season". He was hired in October 2015, the league was barely a month old when he was hired so don't give me that crap about 1 full season.

Since he was hired in 2015, Klopp has spent 157 million pounds on 12 players and in the same time frame, Poch has spent 116 million pounds. In terms of managing a team, Klopp has nothing on a Sean Dyche worth more Poch. I am an ardent Arsenal fan and you should know arguing for Tottenham is almost a taboo.

Actually the bold is false on february 11 2017 Sadio Mane scored 2 goals to help Liverpool beat Spurs 2-0 in the league
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/38865320

Was i first full season or not? He wasnt in charge of transfers, he didnt have any pre season with the team. That is the difference a full season in charge makes

Since Klopp was hired he has spent less money on transfers than Poch
Winter 2015/16 Liverpool 7M Spurs 0
Summer 2016/17 Liverpool 80m Spurs 84M
Winter 2016/17 Liverpool 0 Spurs 0
Summer 2017/18 Liverpool 89M Spurs 93M

Total Liverpool 176M Spurs 176M
https://www.transfermarkt.com/premier-league/einnahmenausgaben/wettbewerb/GB1/plus/0?ids=a&sa=&saison_id=2017&saison_id_bis=2017&nat=&pos=&altersklasse=&w_s=s&leihe=&intern=0

My links attached now point out my lies like I have pointed out yours
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:11pm On Dec 02, 2017
Obere4u:


Was he the MoTM in the CL? Show me his goal and assist record when he won the MoTM award in World cup and Euros or else we will all agree that he was carried in those tournaments.

he carried his team to the 2011 CL final recording the most assist in the competition, He carried his team to the La Liga of 2013 recording the most assist in the entire league that season

SHow us any season Hidden Hazard has led his team whether in goals or assist when they won
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 6:12pm On Dec 02, 2017
hardeycute:
OK.

Irrespective of refs decision city has shown character of a championship team in those matches they won in injury time
Yeah

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