here is a write up of my thinking for leaving Islam
My Father is Muslim and my Mother is Christian. Many atimes my father has beaten my mother and when we complain or my uncles on my mothers side complain my father replies
"You know I am a muslim man and follow the Quo'ran to the letter. In Islam we are told to beat our wives if she mispleases us"
So I asked my father to explain what he said and he showed me the quo'ran that say's clearly you can beat your wife.
Qur'an (38:44) - "And take in your hand a green branch AND BEAT HER WITH IT,"
Qur'an (4:34) - " Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to ....... BEAT THEM;
So I tried to comfort my mum, when she said "She will not encourage her daughters to marry a Muslim" And I asked her why not and she said in her Christianity men are commanded to LOVE THEIR WIVES NOT BEAT
Again I asked for proof and she showed me these in the bible which I checked.
Ephesians 5:25 (KJV) Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Colossians 3:19 Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES, and BE NOT BITTER AGAINST THEM.
These verses in the bible shocked me.
So brothers please tell me how come our quoran encourages beating our women while the Christians God & Bible says not to beat our wives,
I have even sought teachings on this and all the Imams teach you to beat your wife.
This is worrying to me, as I wont want my sisters to be beaten by her husband. So am I agreeing that my sisters should marry a Christian and not a muslim.?
Also why does your bible command you not to beat your wife, while our quoran commands us to beat our wives?
After doing my research I left Islam.
And can say one striking difference apart from loving your wife, is that Christians have a promise of salvation which muslims do not have.
John 3 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 HE THAT BELIEVETH ON HIM IS NOT CONDEMNED: BUT HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT IS CONDEMNED ALREADY, BECAUSE HE HATH NOT BELIEVED IN THE NAME OF THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.
Even Mohammed is not promised salvation
Sura 46:9 "I am not something original among the messengers, NOR DO I KNOW WHAT WILL BE DONE WITH ME OR WITH YOU(MUSLIMS)."
So comparing , you can see that Jesus is better.
The worst form of living is when a man is lying to himself. Self defeat is what your suffering from.
this i say with every gut inside me islam is the only way mankind will forge ahead. many who are against it knows nothing about it. but those who comes closer to it find treasure much more than the treasures deposited in the whole planet earth.
firstclassmumu: nobody in his/her right sense will convert to islam. No offense
No offense? after offending independent decision of adults on their wishes on what he/she wish to be.... just question your mind of religion's fanatics which might give you senses of tolerances on others decision of their private lives on how they want to worship their creator.
No offense? after offending independent decision of adults on their wishes on what he/she wish to be.... just question your mind of religion's fanatics which might give you senses of tolerances on others decision of their private lives on how they want to worship their creator.
The same thing that give your religion right to call for the head of anyone that revert Islam. Lol
Today 50 died while many injured in Borno,!the suicide Bomber shouted Allahukbaru! Tell me who the killer is
I don't know and shouting Allahu Akbar doesn't make u a Muslim and u can't use the behaviour of few to generalise. after all, Evans is a Christian,he goes to church and pays his tithe same as many Christians too who engage in bad activities,is it the religion that make them to behave in a bad ways,or will u call them Good Christian.
sister,don't be bias,if u cant say pastors that rape aren't good christian or those that sleep with church members,pls don't see Boko Haram as good Muslims too. Their activities is against the teaching of the Qur'an or d hadith
I don't know and shouting Allahu Akbar doesn't make u a Muslim and u can't use the behaviour of few to generalise. after all, Evans is a Christian,he goes to church and pays his tithe same as many Christians too who engage in bad activities,is it the religion that make them to behave in a bad ways,or will u call them Good Christian.
sister,don't be bias,if u cant say pastors that rape aren't good christian or those that sleep with church members,pls don't see Boko Haram as good Muslims too. Their activities is against the teaching of the Qur'an or d hadith
I don't know and shouting Allahu Akbar doesn't make u a Muslim and u can't use the behaviour of few to generalise. after all, Evans is a Christian,he goes to church and pays his tithe same as many Christians too who engage in bad activities,is it the religion that make them to behave in a bad ways,or will u call them Good Christian.
sister,don't be bias,if u cant say pastors that rape aren't good christian or those that sleep with church members,pls don't see Boko Haram as good Muslims too. Their activities is against the teaching of the Qur'an or d hadith
Unfortunately you don’t sound that healthy. Mohammed his just a mess for creating Islam.
Once again Islam teach Terror! Think about every terrorist attack in the world are perpetrated by Muslims.
Why would Igbo convert to Islam that is Ridiculous.
here is a write up of my thinking for leaving Islam
My Father is Muslim and my Mother is Christian. Many atimes my father has beaten my mother and when we complain or my uncles on my mothers side complain my father replies
"You know I am a muslim man and follow the Quo'ran to the letter. In Islam we are told to beat our wives if she mispleases us"
So I asked my father to explain what he said and he showed me the quo'ran that say's clearly you can beat your wife.
Qur'an (38:44) - "And take in your hand a green branch AND BEAT HER WITH IT,"
Qur'an (4:34) - " Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to ....... BEAT THEM;
So I tried to comfort my mum, when she said "She will not encourage her daughters to marry a Muslim" And I asked her why not and she said in her Christianity men are commanded to LOVE THEIR WIVES NOT BEAT
Again I asked for proof and she showed me these in the bible which I checked.
Ephesians 5:25 (KJV) Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Colossians 3:19 Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES, and BE NOT BITTER AGAINST THEM.
These verses in the bible shocked me.
So brothers please tell me how come our quoran encourages beating our women while the Christians God & Bible says not to beat our wives,
I have even sought teachings on this and all the Imams teach you to beat your wife.
This is worrying to me, as I wont want my sisters to be beaten by her husband. So am I agreeing that my sisters should marry a Christian and not a muslim.?
Also why does your bible command you not to beat your wife, while our quoran commands us to beat our wives?
After doing my research I left Islam.
And can say one striking difference apart from loving your wife, is that Christians have a promise of salvation which muslims do not have.
John 3 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 HE THAT BELIEVETH ON HIM IS NOT CONDEMNED: BUT HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT IS CONDEMNED ALREADY, BECAUSE HE HATH NOT BELIEVED IN THE NAME OF THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.
Even Mohammed is not promised salvation
Sura 46:9 "I am not something original among the messengers, NOR DO I KNOW WHAT WILL BE DONE WITH ME OR WITH YOU(MUSLIMS)."
Unfortunately you don’t sound that healthy. Mohammed his just a mess for creating Islam.
Once again Islam teach Terror! Think about every terrorist attack in the world are perpetrated by Muslims.
Why would Igbo convert to Islam that is Ridiculous.
So the best u can do is to turn what could have been an intellectual discourse to abuse. Is that what the bible teaches u? Anyway,u can be Kazeem,Sulaiman,Rukayyah etc,that is u can have a Muslim names without being a Muslim. Those terrorist attacks u see in the world aren't done by Muslims,have u ever imagined why Muslim will be bombing and killing Muslims in Mosques. The enemies of the world only build on the weakness of a few people in Islam to penetrate evil in the name of being a Muslim.
Besides,M uhammaed didn't create Islam,he was a prophet of Allah likewise Jesus as found in the bible. Qur'an teaches me to be a Muslim,but yet to see a verse in the bible that talks of christianity. I know your pain,cos people from your clan are becoming Muslims,u aren't in peace again. Even with d name calling of Islam,check your Google,Muslims are getting many in America and there are more mosques now unlike 10years ago. Try to be at peace,many Igbos are converting and they will still convert,u will never read your bible very well without converting to a Muslim
here is a write up of my thinking for leaving Islam
My Father is Muslim and my Mother is Christian. Many atimes my father has beaten my mother and when we complain or my uncles on my mothers side complain my father replies
"You know I am a muslim man and follow the Quo'ran to the letter. In Islam we are told to beat our wives if she mispleases us"
So I asked my father to explain what he said and he showed me the quo'ran that say's clearly you can beat your wife.
Qur'an (38:44) - "And take in your hand a green branch AND BEAT HER WITH IT,"
Qur'an (4:34) - " Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to ....... BEAT THEM;
So I tried to comfort my mum, when she said "She will not encourage her daughters to marry a Muslim" And I asked her why not and she said in her Christianity men are commanded to LOVE THEIR WIVES NOT BEAT
Again I asked for proof and she showed me these in the bible which I checked.
Ephesians 5:25 (KJV) Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Colossians 3:19 Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES, and BE NOT BITTER AGAINST THEM.
These verses in the bible shocked me.
So brothers please tell me how come our quoran encourages beating our women while the Christians God & Bible says not to beat our wives,
I have even sought teachings on this and all the Imams teach you to beat your wife.
This is worrying to me, as I wont want my sisters to be beaten by her husband. So am I agreeing that my sisters should marry a Christian and not a muslim.?
Also why does your bible command you not to beat your wife, while our quoran commands us to beat our wives?
After doing my research I left Islam.
And can say one striking difference apart from loving your wife, is that Christians have a promise of salvation which muslims do not have.
John 3 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 HE THAT BELIEVETH ON HIM IS NOT CONDEMNED: BUT HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT IS CONDEMNED ALREADY, BECAUSE HE HATH NOT BELIEVED IN THE NAME OF THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.
Even Mohammed is not promised salvation
Sura 46:9 "I am not something original among the messengers, NOR DO I KNOW WHAT WILL BE DONE WITH ME OR WITH YOU(MUSLIMS)."
So comparing , you can see that Jesus is better.
Interesting how you conveniently edited a full verse Rd about six lines to just two to make a your ridiculous point. Below is the verse you summarised.
(Dr. Mustafa Khattab) Men are the caretakers of women, as men have been provisioned by Allah over women and tasked with supporting them financially. And righteous women are devoutly obedient and, when alone, protective of what Allah has entrusted them with. And if you sense ill-conduct from your women, advise them ˹first˺, ˹if they persist,˺ do not share their beds, ˹but if they still persist,˺ then discipline them ˹gently˺. But if they change their ways, do not be unjust to them. Surely Allah is Most High, All-Great.
-Sura An-Nisa', Ayah 34
This was taken directly from the Qur'an. Any man who hides behind Islam to toture maltreat his wife is a monster period. Allah has ordered men to be the protector and provider of the homes. How many people follow that these days. Your monster, wife beating father most likely doesn't provide for your mum as he has been ordered to. A man who bears his wife at the slightest provocation will face the wrath of his Creator. Tell that to your monster of a father.
Are u igbos calling urselves xtians real xtians or pure ritualist? U guys only call urseves xtian cos of convenience but deep down most of u are idolists
Are you minding them? Igbos believe traditional wedding is more important than church! A typical Igbo person will tell you that a person married in both church and court isn't married as long as trad hasn't been done. In fact a woman can get pregnant if she has done only trad wedding. Doesn't matter if the union hasn't been solemnised in the church (that's not important). Soon they'll come and tell me they're Christians and believe Jesus is their Lord and personal bla bla (lol).
In Islam, Nikkah is the most important. A woman can get pregnant if Nikkah rites has been performed. Any couple living together with performing Nikkah is committing Zinah(fornication).
Interesting how you conveniently edited a full verse Rd about six lines to just two to make a your ridiculous point. Below is the verse you summarised.
This was taken directly from the Qur'an. Any man who hides behind Islam to toture maltreat his wife is a monster period. Allah has ordered men to be the protector and provider of the homes. How many people follow that these days. Your monster, wife beating father most likely doesn't provide for your mum as he has been ordered to. A man who bears his wife at the slightest provocation will face the wrath of his Creator. Tell that to your monster of a father.
may Almighty Allah be with u bro,u ve said all I wanted to say concerning the questions and theory being portrayed by the person questioning u concerning Islam,concerning terrorism,i think Christians needs to think constructively and sincerely without hate,so many of this act re just to blackmail Islam,some also for political reasoning,some really want to Sell weapons,wonder why all the terrorist act,Muslims are always the casualties,wonder why Isis never attacks israhell who should be number one Islam greater enemies, starting from,boko haram,isis they are tools of the western countries,using them to carry out their assignment,from Libya,Syria,nothern Nigeria etc, but to all Muslim, these is the days of the end,whereby the truth will almost be killed while lies thrives among all,where the world power would be in the hands of the tyrants,never feel intimidated, Allah will surely come to ur aid,never stop believing in him
We are not recruiting suicide bombers here, you can get the fvck off
I have been following ur comments and I must say I am marveled dat any1 can attain such level of stupidity ur IQ is so low am sure someone is even helping u to type all dat do us a favour go and fix ur morafuvking life :/
zakari247: this i say with every gut inside me islam is the only way mankind will forge ahead. many who are against it knows nothing about it. but those who comes closer to it find treasure much more than the treasures deposited in the whole planet earth.
Today 50 died while many injured in Borno,!the suicide Bomber shouted Allahukbaru! Tell me who the killer is
if u r talking if killings pls read and be put out of ur stupid misery 1. Wisconsin Sikh Temple massacre, Aug. 5, 2012. The virulent, neocon-fueled Islamophobia that has plagued post-9/11 America has not only posed a threat to Muslims, it has had deadly consequences for people of other faiths, including Sikhs. Sikhs are not Muslims; the traditional Sikh attire, including their turbans, is different from traditional Sunni, Shiite or Sufi attire. But to a racist, a bearded Sikh looks like a Muslim. Only four days after 9/11, Balbir Singh Sodhi, a Sikh immigrant from India who owned a gas station in Mesa, Arizona, was murdered by Frank Silva Roque, a racist who obviously mistook him for a Muslim. But Sodhi’s murder was not the last example of anti-Sikh violence in post-9/11 America. On Aug. 5, 2012, white supremacist Wade Michael Page used a semiautomatic weapon to murder six people during an attack on a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Page’s connection to the white supremacist movement was well-documented: he had been a member of the neo-Nazi rock bands End Empathy and Definite Hate. Attorney General Eric Holder described the attack as “an act of terrorism, an act of hatred.” It was good to see the nation’s top cop acknowledge that terrorist acts can, in fact, involve white males murdering people of color. 2. The murder of Dr. George Tiller, May 31, 2009. Imagine that a physician had been the victim of an attempted assassination by an Islamic jihadist in 1993, and received numerous death threats from al-Qaeda after that, before being murdered by an al-Qaeda member. Neocons, Fox News and the Christian Right would have had a field day. A physician was the victim of a terrorist killing that day, but neither the terrorist nor the people who inflamed the terrorist were Muslims. Dr. George Tiller, who was shot and killed by anti-abortion terrorist Scott Roeder on May 31, 2009, was a victim of Christian Right terrorism, not al-Qaeda. Tiller had a long history of being targeted for violence by Christian Right terrorists. In 1986, his clinic was firebombed. Then, in 1993, Tiller was shot five times by female Christian Right terrorist Shelly Shannon (now serving time in a federal prison) but survived that attack. Given that Tiller had been the victim of an attempted murder and received countless death threats after that, Fox News would have done well to avoid fanning the flames of unrest. Instead, Bill O’Reilly repeatedly referred to him as “Tiller the baby killer." When Roeder murdered Tiller, O’Reilly condemned the attack but did so in a way that was lukewarm at best. Keith Olbermann called O’Reilly out and denounced him as a “facilitator for domestic terrorism” and a “blindly irresponsible man.” And Crazy for Godauthor Frank Schaffer, who was formerly a figure on the Christian Right but has since become critical of that movement, asserted that the Christian Right’s extreme anti-abortion rhetoric “helped create the climate that made this murder likely to happen.” Neocon Ann Coulter, meanwhile, viewed Tiller’s murder as a source of comic relief, telling O’Reilly, “ I don't really like to think of it as a murder. It was terminating Tiller in the 203rd trimester.” The Republican/neocon double standard when it comes to terrorism is obvious. At Fox News and AM neocon talk radio, Islamic terrorism is a source of nonstop fear-mongering, while Christian Right terrorism gets a pass. 3. Knoxville Unitarian Universalist Church shooting, July 27, 2008. On July 27, 2008, Christian Right sympathizer Jim David Adkisson walked into the Knoxville Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, Tennessee during a children’s play and began shooting people at random. Two were killed, while seven others were injured but survived. Adkisson said he was motivated by a hatred of liberals, Democrats and gays, and he considered neocon Bernard Goldberg’s book, 100 People Who Are Screwing Up America , his political manifesto. Adkisson (who pleaded guilty to two counts of first-degree murder and is now serving life in prison without parole) was vehemently anti-abortion, but apparently committing an act of terrorism during a children’s play was good ol’ Republican family values. While Adkisson’s act of terrorism was reported on Fox News, it didn't get the round-the-clock coverage an act of Islamic terrorism would have garnered. 4. The murder of Dr. John Britton, July 29, 1994. To hear the Christian Right tell it, there is no such thing as Christian terrorism. Tell that to the victims of the Army of God, a loose network of radical Christianists with a long history of terrorist attacks on abortion providers. One Christian Right terrorist with ties to the Army of God was Paul Jennings Hill, who was executed by lethal injection on Sept. 3, 2003 for the murders of abortion doctor John Britton and his bodyguard James Barrett. Hill shot both of them in cold blood and expressed no remorse whatsoever; he insisted he was doing’s God’s work and has been exalted as a martyr by the Army of God. 5. The Centennial Olympic Park bombing, July 27, 1996. Paul Jennings Hill is hardly the only Christian terrorist who has been praised by the Army of God; that organization has also praised Eric Rudolph, who is serving life without parole for a long list of terrorist attacks committed in the name of Christianity. Rudolph is best known for carrying out the Olympic Park bombing in Atlanta during the 1996 Summer Olympics—a blast that killed spectator Alice Hawthorne and wounded 111 others. Hawthorne wasn’t the only person Rudolph murdered: his bombing of an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama in 1998 caused the death of Robert Sanderson (a Birmingham police officer and part-time security guard) and caused nurse Emily Lyons to lose an eye. Rudolph’s other acts of Christian terrorism include bombing the Otherwise Lounge (a lesbian bar in Atlanta) in 1997 and an abortion clinic in an Atlanta suburb in 1997. Rudolph was no lone wolf: he was part of a terrorist movement that encouraged his violence. And the Army of God continues to exalt Rudolph as a brave Christian who is doing God’s work. 6. The murder of Barnett Slepian byJames Charles Kopp, Oct. 23, 1998. Like Paul Jennings Hill, Eric Rudolph and Scott Roeder, James Charles Kopp is a radical Christian terrorist who has been exalted as a hero by the Army of God. On Oct. 23, 1998 Kopp fired a single shot into the Amherst, NY home of Barnett Slepian (a doctor who performed abortions), mortally wounding him. Slepian died an hour later. Kopp later claimed he only meant to wound Slepian, not kill him. But Judge Michael D'Amico of Erin County, NY said that the killing was clearly premeditated and sentenced Kopp to 25 years to life. Kopp is a suspect in other anti-abortion terrorist attacks, including the non-fatal shootings of three doctors in Canada, though it appears unlikely that Kopp will be extradited to Canada to face any charges. 7. Planned Parenthood bombing, Brookline, Massachusetts, 1994. Seldom has the term “Christian terrorist” been used in connection with John C. Salvi on AM talk radio or at Fox News, but it’s a term that easily applies to him. In 1994, the radical anti-abortionist and Army of God member attacked a Planned Parenthood clinic in Brookline, Massachusetts, shooting and killing receptionists Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols and wounding several others. Salvi was found dead in his prison cell in 1996, and his death was ruled a suicide. The Army of God has exalted Salvi as a Christian martyr and described Lowney and Nichols not as victims of domestic terrorism, but as infidels who got what they deserved. The Rev. Donald Spitz, a Christianist and Army of God supporter who is so extreme that even the radical anti-abortion group Operation Rescue disassociated itself from him, has praised Salvi as well. 8. Suicide attack on IRS building in Austin, Texas, Feb. 18, 2010. When Joseph Stack flew a plane into the Echelon office complex (where an IRS office was located), Fox News’ coverage of the incident was calm and matter-of-fact. Republican Rep. Steve King of Iowa seemed to find the attack amusing and joked that it could have been avoided if the federal government had followed his advice and abolished the IRS. Nonetheless, there were two fatalities: Stack and IRS employee Vernon Hunter. Stack left behind a rambling suicide note outlining his reasons for the attack, which included a disdain for the IRS as well as total disgust with health insurance companies and bank bailouts. Some of the most insightful coverage of the incident came from Noam Chomsky, who said that while Stack had some legitimate grievances—millions of Americans shared his outrage over bank bailouts and the practices of health insurance companies—the way he expressed them was absolutely wrong. 9. The murder of Alan Berg, June 18, 1984. One of the most absurd claims some Republicans have made about white supremacists is that they are liberals and progressives. That claim is especially ludicrous in light of the terrorist killing of liberal Denver-based talk show host Alan Berg, a critic of white supremacists who was killed with an automatic weapon on June 18, 1984. The killing was linked to members of the Order, a white supremacist group that had marked Berg for death. Order members David Lane (a former Ku Klux Klan member who had also been active in the Aryan Nations) and Bruce Pierce were both convicted in federal court on charges of racketeering, conspiracy and violating Berg’s civil rights and given what amounted to life sentences. Robert Matthews, who founded the Order, got that name from a fictional group in white supremacist William Luther Pierce’s anti-Semitic 1978 novel, The Turner Diaries —a book Timothy McVeigh was quite fond of. The novel’s fictional account of the destruction of a government building has been described as the inspiration for the Oklahoma City bombing of 1995. 10. Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City bombing, April 19, 1995.Neocons and Republicans grow angry and uncomfortable whenever Timothy McVeigh is cited as an example of a non-Islamic terrorist. Pointing out that a non-Muslim white male carried out an attack as vicious and deadly as the Oklahoma City bombing doesn’t fit into their narrative that only Muslims and people of color are capable of carrying out terrorist attacks. Neocons will claim that bringing up McVeigh’s name during a discussion of terrorism is a “red herring” that distracts us from fighting radical Islamists, but that downplays the cruel, destructive nature of the attack. Prior to the al-Qaeda attacks of 9/11, the Oklahoma City bombing McVeigh orchestrated was the most deadly terrorist attack in U.S. history: 168 people were killed and more than 600 were injured. When McVeigh drove a truck filled with explosives into the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, his goal was to kill as many people as possible. Clearly, McVeigh was not motivated by radical Islam; rather, he was motivated by an extreme hatred for the U.S. government and saw the attack as revenge for the Ruby Ridge incident of 1992 and the Waco Siege in 1993. He had white supremacist leanings as well (when he was in the U.S. Army, McVeigh was reprimanded for wearing a “white power” T-shirt he had bought at a KKK demonstration). McVeigh was executed on June 11, 2001. He should have served life without parole instead, as a living reminder of the type of viciousness the extreme right is capable of.
Fool of the highest order, you changed everytin to suit what you want to used it for. As a Muslim we follow d path of Abraham(AS) and if u are real xtain you must follow d same path also as it is mentioned/stated in Hebrew 7##wefollowtherightpath
here is a write up of my thinking for leaving Islam
My Father is Muslim and my Mother is Christian. Many atimes my father has beaten my mother and when we complain or my uncles on my mothers side complain my father replies
"You know I am a muslim man and follow the Quo'ran to the letter. In Islam we are told to beat our wives if she mispleases us"
So I asked my father to explain what he said and he showed me the quo'ran that say's clearly you can beat your wife.
Qur'an (38:44) - "And take in your hand a green branch AND BEAT HER WITH IT,"
Qur'an (4:34) - " Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to ....... BEAT THEM;
So I tried to comfort my mum, when she said "She will not encourage her daughters to marry a Muslim" And I asked her why not and she said in her Christianity men are commanded to LOVE THEIR WIVES NOT BEAT
Again I asked for proof and she showed me these in the bible which I checked.
Ephesians 5:25 (KJV) Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Colossians 3:19 Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES, and BE NOT BITTER AGAINST THEM.
These verses in the bible shocked me.
So brothers please tell me how come our quoran encourages beating our women while the Christians God & Bible says not to beat our wives,
I have even sought teachings on this and all the Imams teach you to beat your wife.
This is worrying to me, as I wont want my sisters to be beaten by her husband. So am I agreeing that my sisters should marry a Christian and not a muslim.?
Also why does your bible command you not to beat your wife, while our quoran commands us to beat our wives?
After doing my research I left Islam.
And can say one striking difference apart from loving your wife, is that Christians have a promise of salvation which muslims do not have.
John 3 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 HE THAT BELIEVETH ON HIM IS NOT CONDEMNED: BUT HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT IS CONDEMNED ALREADY, BECAUSE HE HATH NOT BELIEVED IN THE NAME OF THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.
Even Mohammed is not promised salvation
Sura 46:9 "I am not something original among the messengers, NOR DO I KNOW WHAT WILL BE DONE WITH ME OR WITH YOU(MUSLIMS)."
TRAILBLAIZER: if u r talking if killings pls read and be put out of ur stupid misery 1. Wisconsin Sikh Temple massacre, Aug. 5, 2012. The virulent, neocon-fueled Islamophobia that has plagued post-9/11 America has not only posed a threat to Muslims, it has had deadly consequences for people of other faiths, including Sikhs. Sikhs are not Muslims; the traditional Sikh attire, including their turbans, is different from traditional Sunni, Shiite or Sufi attire. But to a racist, a bearded Sikh looks like a Muslim. Only four days after 9/11, Balbir Singh Sodhi, a Sikh immigrant from India who owned a gas station in Mesa, Arizona, was murdered by Frank Silva Roque, a racist who obviously mistook him for a Muslim. But Sodhi’s murder was not the last example of anti-Sikh violence in post-9/11 America. On Aug. 5, 2012, white supremacist Wade Michael Page used a semiautomatic weapon to murder six people during an attack on a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Page’s connection to the white supremacist movement was well-documented: he had been a member of the neo-Nazi rock bands End Empathy and Definite Hate. Attorney General Eric Holder described the attack as “an act of terrorism, an act of hatred.” It was good to see the nation’s top cop acknowledge that terrorist acts can, in fact, involve white males murdering people of color. 2. The murder of Dr. George Tiller, May 31, 2009. Imagine that a physician had been the victim of an attempted assassination by an Islamic jihadist in 1993, and received numerous death threats from al-Qaeda after that, before being murdered by an al-Qaeda member. Neocons, Fox News and the Christian Right would have had a field day. A physician was the victim of a terrorist killing that day, but neither the terrorist nor the people who inflamed the terrorist were Muslims. Dr. George Tiller, who was shot and killed by anti-abortion terrorist Scott Roeder on May 31, 2009, was a victim of Christian Right terrorism, not al-Qaeda. Tiller had a long history of being targeted for violence by Christian Right terrorists. In 1986, his clinic was firebombed. Then, in 1993, Tiller was shot five times by female Christian Right terrorist Shelly Shannon (now serving time in a federal prison) but survived that attack. Given that Tiller had been the victim of an attempted murder and received countless death threats after that, Fox News would have done well to avoid fanning the flames of unrest. Instead, Bill O’Reilly repeatedly referred to him as “Tiller the baby killer." When Roeder murdered Tiller, O’Reilly condemned the attack but did so in a way that was lukewarm at best. Keith Olbermann called O’Reilly out and denounced him as a “facilitator for domestic terrorism” and a “blindly irresponsible man.” And Crazy for Godauthor Frank Schaffer, who was formerly a figure on the Christian Right but has since become critical of that movement, asserted that the Christian Right’s extreme anti-abortion rhetoric “helped create the climate that made this murder likely to happen.” Neocon Ann Coulter, meanwhile, viewed Tiller’s murder as a source of comic relief, telling O’Reilly, “ I don't really like to think of it as a murder. It was terminating Tiller in the 203rd trimester.” The Republican/neocon double standard when it comes to terrorism is obvious. At Fox News and AM neocon talk radio, Islamic terrorism is a source of nonstop fear-mongering, while Christian Right terrorism gets a pass. 3. Knoxville Unitarian Universalist Church shooting, July 27, 2008. On July 27, 2008, Christian Right sympathizer Jim David Adkisson walked into the Knoxville Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, Tennessee during a children’s play and began shooting people at random. Two were killed, while seven others were injured but survived. Adkisson said he was motivated by a hatred of liberals, Democrats and gays, and he considered neocon Bernard Goldberg’s book, 100 People Who Are Screwing Up America , his political manifesto. Adkisson (who pleaded guilty to two counts of first-degree murder and is now serving life in prison without parole) was vehemently anti-abortion, but apparently committing an act of terrorism during a children’s play was good ol’ Republican family values. While Adkisson’s act of terrorism was reported on Fox News, it didn't get the round-the-clock coverage an act of Islamic terrorism would have garnered. 4. The murder of Dr. John Britton, July 29, 1994. To hear the Christian Right tell it, there is no such thing as Christian terrorism. Tell that to the victims of the Army of God, a loose network of radical Christianists with a long history of terrorist attacks on abortion providers. One Christian Right terrorist with ties to the Army of God was Paul Jennings Hill, who was executed by lethal injection on Sept. 3, 2003 for the murders of abortion doctor John Britton and his bodyguard James Barrett. Hill shot both of them in cold blood and expressed no remorse whatsoever; he insisted he was doing’s God’s work and has been exalted as a martyr by the Army of God. 5. The Centennial Olympic Park bombing, July 27, 1996. Paul Jennings Hill is hardly the only Christian terrorist who has been praised by the Army of God; that organization has also praised Eric Rudolph, who is serving life without parole for a long list of terrorist attacks committed in the name of Christianity. Rudolph is best known for carrying out the Olympic Park bombing in Atlanta during the 1996 Summer Olympics—a blast that killed spectator Alice Hawthorne and wounded 111 others. Hawthorne wasn’t the only person Rudolph murdered: his bombing of an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama in 1998 caused the death of Robert Sanderson (a Birmingham police officer and part-time security guard) and caused nurse Emily Lyons to lose an eye. Rudolph’s other acts of Christian terrorism include bombing the Otherwise Lounge (a lesbian bar in Atlanta) in 1997 and an abortion clinic in an Atlanta suburb in 1997. Rudolph was no lone wolf: he was part of a terrorist movement that encouraged his violence. And the Army of God continues to exalt Rudolph as a brave Christian who is doing God’s work. 6. The murder of Barnett Slepian byJames Charles Kopp, Oct. 23, 1998. Like Paul Jennings Hill, Eric Rudolph and Scott Roeder, James Charles Kopp is a radical Christian terrorist who has been exalted as a hero by the Army of God. On Oct. 23, 1998 Kopp fired a single shot into the Amherst, NY home of Barnett Slepian (a doctor who performed abortions), mortally wounding him. Slepian died an hour later. Kopp later claimed he only meant to wound Slepian, not kill him. But Judge Michael D'Amico of Erin County, NY said that the killing was clearly premeditated and sentenced Kopp to 25 years to life. Kopp is a suspect in other anti-abortion terrorist attacks, including the non-fatal shootings of three doctors in Canada, though it appears unlikely that Kopp will be extradited to Canada to face any charges. 7. Planned Parenthood bombing, Brookline, Massachusetts, 1994. Seldom has the term “Christian terrorist” been used in connection with John C. Salvi on AM talk radio or at Fox News, but it’s a term that easily applies to him. In 1994, the radical anti-abortionist and Army of God member attacked a Planned Parenthood clinic in Brookline, Massachusetts, shooting and killing receptionists Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols and wounding several others. Salvi was found dead in his prison cell in 1996, and his death was ruled a suicide. The Army of God has exalted Salvi as a Christian martyr and described Lowney and Nichols not as victims of domestic terrorism, but as infidels who got what they deserved. The Rev. Donald Spitz, a Christianist and Army of God supporter who is so extreme that even the radical anti-abortion group Operation Rescue disassociated itself from him, has praised Salvi as well. 8. Suicide attack on IRS building in Austin, Texas, Feb. 18, 2010. When Joseph Stack flew a plane into the Echelon office complex (where an IRS office was located), Fox News’ coverage of the incident was calm and matter-of-fact. Republican Rep. Steve King of Iowa seemed to find the attack amusing and joked that it could have been avoided if the federal government had followed his advice and abolished the IRS. Nonetheless, there were two fatalities: Stack and IRS employee Vernon Hunter. Stack left behind a rambling suicide note outlining his reasons for the attack, which included a disdain for the IRS as well as total disgust with health insurance companies and bank bailouts. Some of the most insightful coverage of the incident came from Noam Chomsky, who said that while Stack had some legitimate grievances—millions of Americans shared his outrage over bank bailouts and the practices of health insurance companies—the way he expressed them was absolutely wrong. 9. The murder of Alan Berg, June 18, 1984. One of the most absurd claims some Republicans have made about white supremacists is that they are liberals and progressives. That claim is especially ludicrous in light of the terrorist killing of liberal Denver-based talk show host Alan Berg, a critic of white supremacists who was killed with an automatic weapon on June 18, 1984. The killing was linked to members of the Order, a white supremacist group that had marked Berg for death. Order members David Lane (a former Ku Klux Klan member who had also been active in the Aryan Nations) and Bruce Pierce were both convicted in federal court on charges of racketeering, conspiracy and violating Berg’s civil rights and given what amounted to life sentences. Robert Matthews, who founded the Order, got that name from a fictional group in white supremacist William Luther Pierce’s anti-Semitic 1978 novel, The Turner Diaries —a book Timothy McVeigh was quite fond of. The novel’s fictional account of the destruction of a government building has been described as the inspiration for the Oklahoma City bombing of 1995. 10. Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City bombing, April 19, 1995.Neocons and Republicans grow angry and uncomfortable whenever Timothy McVeigh is cited as an example of a non-Islamic terrorist. Pointing out that a non-Muslim white male carried out an attack as vicious and deadly as the Oklahoma City bombing doesn’t fit into their narrative that only Muslims and people of color are capable of carrying out terrorist attacks. Neocons will claim that bringing up McVeigh’s name during a discussion of terrorism is a “red herring” that distracts us from fighting radical Islamists, but that downplays the cruel, destructive nature of the attack. Prior to the al-Qaeda attacks of 9/11, the Oklahoma City bombing McVeigh orchestrated was the most deadly terrorist attack in U.S. history: 168 people were killed and more than 600 were injured. When McVeigh drove a truck filled with explosives into the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, his goal was to kill as many people as possible. Clearly, McVeigh was not motivated by radical Islam; rather, he was motivated by an extreme hatred for the U.S. government and saw the attack as revenge for the Ruby Ridge incident of 1992 and the Waco Siege in 1993. He had white supremacist leanings as well (when he was in the U.S. Army, McVeigh was reprimanded for wearing a “white power” T-shirt he had bought at a KKK demonstration). McVeigh was executed on June 11, 2001. He should have served life without parole instead, as a living reminder of the type of viciousness the extreme right is capable of.
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