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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hoopLA: 11:01am On Dec 03, 2017 |
elampiro:How will he assist when our strikers led by Zlatan were squandering chances by the truckload in games? Or have you forgotten so quickly? Are we going to delve into the stats to find out how many chances pogba created last season? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:05am On Dec 03, 2017 |
CapitalCee: There was nothing wrong in your criticism of Lindelhof. I defended Lindelhof some weeks back when the criticism was becoming heavy, I said he would be good. But I cannot because of that try to rubbish or shame those who criticized him. He was really playing badly. After he cost us two goals, I criticize him, but the next league match when he was being butchered, I defended him. Lukaku deserves criticism for yesterday's performance. Remember last week here, I said he contributes so much even though he doesn't score. But yesterday, I saw situations he could have done something different and help us, but he behaved like am amateur player. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 11:07am On Dec 03, 2017 |
hoopLA: I've not criticised Lindeolf not even during the Huddersfield match, I even defended I'm some matches (not that criticising was wrong), but I want to ask, what were you expecting from fans after his horrendous displays? Something like "Nice defence, Lindeolf. For singlehandedly costing us against Huddersfield, you're the man of the match"? Or "Lindeolf gifts Huddersfield the win, what a defender. The second coming of Nesta"? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:10am On Dec 03, 2017 |
chrisley024: It's because ibra is a classy and intelligent oyibo while Lukaku is a jambody striker with a bad first touch and no link up play ( but somehow assisted 5 goals in the league and have a hand in virtually all our goals this season) and he most importantly he is not a fine boy and his is a Belgium who nationalised from lowly subsaharan African country called Congo DR. That's the reason. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 11:11am On Dec 03, 2017 |
elampiro: Fire on, Elampawa!! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dantedasz(m): 11:16am On Dec 03, 2017 |
CapitalCee: The matter just tire me....... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:17am On Dec 03, 2017 |
dopeJemi: I am not sure Pogba started that build up from our deep. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:19am On Dec 03, 2017 |
hoopLA: Who blamed him for Assists? His overall game was poor ... Manchester United: Paul Pogba 'doesn't understand the game' and Zlatan Ibrahimovic is 'past his sell-by date' Eamon Dunphy, the Irish broadcaster and former United youth team player, also criticised Wayne Rooney, Marcos Rojo and Memphis Depay http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/manchester-united-news-paul-pogba-wayne-rooney-zlatan-ibrahimovic-eamon-dunphy-a7432721.html |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 11:20am On Dec 03, 2017 |
Pogba deserved the criticisms he got last season. I ran out of websites that were pointing out his mistakes. It's so bad, Pogba was making flop team of the week in some sites. One particular hurtful editorial I read was on ESPN. In that piece, a gif of Pogba's various hairstyles was created and the writer wrote about how he's had more hairstyles than goals and assists. When you cost 89m, you'll have the spotlight on you. It's what it is. This season, Garth Crooks, a BBC pundit that criticised Pogba's hairstyles last season criticised his hairstyles again after a match he played, a columnist on Football365 took Garth Crooks to the cleaners while defending Pogba. What changed? If it's last season Garth would've been gotten away with that criticism. But Pogba is now playing well and nobody can criticise his hairstyles. Neymar has an addictive night life, but he's not facing criticisms for it because he delivers on the pitch. If Pogba was playing like an 89m MF especially in the first-half of last season, he wouldn't have been bashed. Nobody would doubt his value. When you're costliest player in the world (as of then), then expect all eyes to be on you. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hoopLA: 11:22am On Dec 03, 2017 |
sinizia:I'm not referring to you. I'm only speaking generally. The peeps who have roasted and grilled him for Christmas barbecue on these pages don't want to remember that there is always a bedding in time for every player. I wish we can go back to Vidic's first few games for us and see how terrible he was till he came good and became a United legend. I saw him yesterday put in a mostly composed shift along side two other more experienced players and I know in time he will come good. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hoopLA: 11:26am On Dec 03, 2017 |
elampiro: I'm going to ignore the above emboldened. Because I don't expect Paul Pogba to be a top scorer, even in the NPFL with Nigerdock FC. So how come he's been firing this season? What happened that the goals and assists have started appearing? Which miracle happened that suddenly turned on the effect, since he hadn't really changed the way he plays? How come we haven't lost a league game yet when he starts? Since you know how to analyze better than everybody else, explain to us why he is no longer shitty. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:29am On Dec 03, 2017 |
Let's get one thing clear, criticizing a player after series of bad games is not wrong neither is someone who maintains support for the same player...The desire to have the "we vs them" faction is strong here, so we just have to respect each others opinions and move on rather than making snide remarks at other posters or sections of the fans because of disagreements here and there... I will like to see Lukaku rested for some games (Perceived easy games) not because he is as bad as others here think but cos he has been doing a lot of running up front and I fear for burnout later in the season, yesterday, at some point, I was screaming for Mou to replace him with Rashford cos he was exhausted but I guess Young was also exhausted, he couldn't carry the ball forward towards the tale end of the game...Bottom line is we all want the best for the club regardless of what we say during or after a match which is most times a little overboard... 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:29am On Dec 03, 2017 |
hoopLA: Last season and this season are two different stories. Who was our best player last season that many fans wanted him given the arm band? How is the performance this season? Mkhitaryan was good last season, particularly in the Europa. Where is he currently? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KinzyeWriter(m): 11:30am On Dec 03, 2017 |
Spy360:like you were poo when Liverpool thrashed you 4 and cech still ended up being the motm |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mystic1(m): 11:38am On Dec 03, 2017 |
Let Fellaini come in for Pogba and Zlatan in 10. Play start Rashford to run unto drop downs and we'll do city with the long balls they've always feared. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:40am On Dec 03, 2017 |
Mystic1:How about Martial? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mystic1(m): 11:40am On Dec 03, 2017 |
KinzyeWriter:no remind am abeg.qq 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:40am On Dec 03, 2017 |
I still prefer Lukaku to Ibrahimovic. But Lukaku should be doing more and scoring the typical strikers' goals. That was what RVP did in 2012/2013. Some of the goals he scored were half chances. Some kind of ball falls on a striker, and you begin to get up hoping to shout goal. Even Rooney 2009/10, 2011/2012. Lukaku is fast, strong, tall, can shoot and jump. So what's the problem? I 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mystic1(m): 11:41am On Dec 03, 2017 |
patrickmuf:Game will be fast paced, we need a willing runner, Martials not. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 11:42am On Dec 03, 2017 |
Leyqute: As a striker, your off the ball movement and ability to put the ball in the net are the most important. if that's where he is lacking and needs to improve only justifies why he is getting the criticisms he is getting. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mystic1(m): 11:46am On Dec 03, 2017 |
Lukaku is bad all round, especially positioning and game reading. Piss poor |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:47am On Dec 03, 2017 |
Mystic1:I'd prefer Fellaini as 10 since he is more mobile than Ibra and play a double pivot of Matic - Herrera...Martial - Lukaku - Lingard should keep their place, you know what they say, if it's not broken, don't fix it... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by slimghost(m): 11:48am On Dec 03, 2017 |
codedguy1: My brother, No be everybody here sabi watch football. I won't complain again about Lukaku but sooner than later, it will be clear to all that dude is hugely under performing. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by EvilMetahuman: 11:51am On Dec 03, 2017 |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hoopLA: 11:52am On Dec 03, 2017 |
elampiro: lol I'm not even going to continue this argument. I dont even have any response for the above. You only want to use the excuse above to suit your narrative and apparently justify your harsh criticism. Me I'm no king of argument like you. I only call it as I see it. Mkhitarian has been average overall from last season.Bought in the same window as Pogba. Pogba has suddenly become a talisman for us in the league and it is almost decided that we would struggle vs City without him. Your only response is that this season is different. Issokay. Happy Sunday. I'm not even going to dispute your claim that he was poor last season. I will just leave it like dat given that I think that claim is debateable. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mystic1(m): 11:58am On Dec 03, 2017 |
patrickmuf:We need all hands on deck to get anything from that match. Fella can't do it alone up front he ll be crowded out and we know he doesn't have the brain to outfox anyone. Zlat with him will give city a handful and also allow others get in. Z10 might be slow, but he has football brain. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hoopLA: 12:01pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
KinzyeWriter: Just to add: You know you're useless when you can't score at home vs a supposed useless team for 20 minutes with a man advantage. You know you are useless when you have 71% possession and 33 attempts at goal and have only one goal to show for it after 98 minutes You know you are useless when you scream for penalty at 3-1 down with 3 minutes to go as reason why you lost. You know you are useless when Jesse Lingard scores a brace against you in your own stadium. Cc: 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:07pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
hoopLA:People have forgotten how Ibra was missing chances upon chances, they are crying for him to come back when we have a striker that is creating space for the team |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:11pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
.. and those shouting stats, Ramsey has 6 Assists, 3 goals in the league from Central Midfield. Make una cool down for this una pepper body. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 12:13pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Lindelof wasn't even flawless yesterday, but we are all happy because he is showing signs of improving and was generally solid. Imagine if someone from nowhere took his time to analyse his performance yesterday with the sole purpose of looking for faults and hanging those faults on his neck like Bling Bling, for no other reason than 'he cost xyz million'. Elampiro, I will let your blanket statement about Pogba's half season performance and out of context link fly because I'm not in a position to go in depth now, maybe later in the day.. But the above was what was happening to Pogba last season and that to me was unnecessary. It may look necessary to you, but it wasn't to me. We can leave it at that. He is playing well now and everyone is happy. Let's leave it at thatm |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:15pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Premier League Top Scorers Mohamed Salah Liverpool 94 minsper goal 1126 minsplayed 12Goals scored 3 Assists Harry Kane Tottenham 122 minsper goal 1216 minsplayed 10Goals scored 1 Assists Álvaro Morata Chelsea 120 minsper goal 1082 minsplayed 9Goals scored 4 Assists Sergio Agüero Man City 87 minsper goal 781 minsplayed 9Goals scored 3 Assists Raheem Sterling Man City 94 minsper goal 848 minsplayed 9Goals scored 2 Assists Romelu Lukaku Man Utd 169 minsper goal 1350 minsplayed 8Goals scored 4 Assists Gabriel Jesus Man City 97 minsper goal 778 minsplayed 8Goals scored 1 Assists Alexandre Lacazette Arsenal 130 minsper goal 1038 minsplayed 8Goals scored 1 Assists Wayne Rooney Everton 142 minsper goal 992 minsplayed 7Goals scored 1 Assists Jamie Vardy Leicester 189 minsper goal 1324 minsplayed 7Goals scored 0 Assists Leroy Sané Man City 143 minsper goal 855 minsplayed 6Goals scored 6 Assists Anthony Martial Man Utd 96 minsper goal 577 minsplayed 6Goals scored 3 Assists Richarlison Watford 256 minsper goal 1280 minsplayed 5Goals scored 3 Assists Eden Hazard Chelsea 144 minsper goal 722 minsplayed 5Goals scored 2 Assists Roberto Firmino Liverpool 212 minsper goal 1061 minsplayed 5Goals scored 2 Assists Oumar Niasse Everton 76 minsper goal 378 minsplayed 5Goals scored 0 Assists Glenn Murray Brighton 163 minsper goal 813 minsplayed 5Goals scored 0 Assists Abdoulaye Doucouré Watford 270 minsper goal 1350 minsplayed |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 12:15pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
slimghost: what is really not fair is when some people feel because you are a united fan then you must see positives in everything and not criticise when you feel a player or the coach is doing something wrong. People have a right to criticise whatever they feel is wrong. it is only a superior agument to counter that criticism that can make all of us at least try to be on the same page. it seems some people are even angry that anything united is being criticised whether wrongly or rightly. I feel Lukaku should be doing more than he is doing and that's my opinion. it does not mean he is not trying. |
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