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Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by purem(m): 12:03pm On Dec 03, 2017
Martinez19:
Na me be the guy. Oya come knack me jazz.


Show ya sef na

E b lyk say u no dey fear wetin u see 4 d pishure abi
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by Dannyfan(m): 12:04pm On Dec 03, 2017
budaatum:

What you are after is a miracle. If you had done all that was necessary to get you into school, surely you would have gained admission. There after all are many people who got into school without prayers. Did you have exams? Did you pray more than study?

I don't know what stopped your admission. Maybe you don't have the grades, didn't apply in time, chose the wrong school or course or numerous other reasons, but I advise you to solve these problems and you will be in school.
i made everything, i got admitted by Jamb last year n gv out my credentials as a tradition in Nigeria n wasn't admitted by d sch
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by Nobody: 12:05pm On Dec 03, 2017
purem:



Bro som pastors dey condem other gods and validate there god alone, na those pastor gangan awon nakk magun

In that case, share some ogume with me brother make we go de knack dem together
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by Daviestunech(m): 12:10pm On Dec 03, 2017
Day2logic:


As in; e de baffle when an African man don't believe in voodoo with all the happening around us.

(Its crazy to believe in voodoo, witchcraft and all that ish and not believe in God)

This ones are the first to shout "JESUS" in time of trouble
Wen he encounter one,he will surely kwns dis life has no part2
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by Martinez19(m): 1:03pm On Dec 03, 2017
Daviestunech:

Wen he encounter one,he will surely kwns dis life has no part2
voodoo was our own religion just like Christian was the religion of the foreigners. Just like christianity, voodoo is false.

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Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by budaatum: 1:25pm On Dec 03, 2017
Dannyfan:
i made everything, i got admitted by Jamb last year n gv out my credentials as a tradition in Nigeria n wasn't admitted by d sch
And what reason were you given for not being admitted?
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by Dannyfan(m): 1:38pm On Dec 03, 2017
budaatum:

And what reason were you given for not being admitted?
no reason u know how Nigeria system is with irregularities
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by Hier(m): 1:40pm On Dec 03, 2017
Dannyfan:
I am now having a rethink of my faith, it start just recently. It now bother my mind whether God exist. I just think it start when i wasn't admitted to school last year, after alot of prayer.
Making my faith a pretending one, just to do as majority to be acceptable in our society. Many reason making me to want an atheist view, but just have to say main.
So i need a convincing encouragement that God really exist. I was born to worship God in a christian home and know believing Him have help many other. Mind you i am committed but always full with doubt of existence of God.
Help my dying faith

First of all, I think you should change church

many of you guys are bound under a dead church

no offense

Which church are you attending and where are you based

yea, if your church is an Orthodox church, those are the kinda church I refer to as dead churches, at least, I don't have to explain that
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by Hier(m): 1:45pm On Dec 03, 2017
danny, am waiting oo
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by budaatum: 1:46pm On Dec 03, 2017
Dannyfan:
no reason u know how Nigeria system is with irregularities
Indeed I do. In the days of common entrance I passed, having always been top two in primary school, only to have my name wiped off the next day. a cousin of mine sat a promotion exam at work only to be told they lost his paper.

In the gospels is a story about a man who told his accountant to come show him his accounts. The accountant went to those who he'd lent money to and ask them to pay half of it pronto. You must be wise in your dealings and not leave it all to god.
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by Hier(m): 1:49pm On Dec 03, 2017
dannyfan, should I await your reply, or I just run along
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by Martinez19(m): 7:07pm On Dec 03, 2017
budaatum:

Indeed I do. In the days of common entrance I passed, having always been top two in primary school, only to have my name wiped off the next day. a cousin of mine sat a promotion exam at work only to be told they lost his paper.

In the gospels is a story about a man who told his accountant to come show him his accounts. The accountant went to those who he'd lent money to and ask them to pay half of it pronto. You must be wise in your dealings and not leave it all to god.
Nonsense. There is nothing too hard for God to do yet he couldn't give person admission. You might say he didn't read but as an all powerful being, I could have planted the knowledge in his head or better still prepare him ahead of time. You might say the scripts got misplaced by the handlers hence not God's fault but as an all powerful being, I could have caused the scripts to disappear and appear with other script or prevent it from missing in the first place. You might say it is corruption on the system but would you say the system is powerful than yahweh? Hmmmm seems I would do better than Yahweh if I was all powerful and Dannyfan prayed to me. Surely there is no excuse for an all powerful God.

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Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by GodsMopol: 7:14pm On Dec 03, 2017
Martinez19:
Nonsense. There is nothing too hard for God to do yet he couldn't give person admission. You might say he didn't read but as an all powerful being, I could have planted the knowledge in his head or better still prepare him ahead of time. You might say the scripts got misplaced by the handlers hence not God's fault but as an all powerful being, I could have caused the scripts to disappear and appear with other script or prevent it from missing in the first place. You might say it is corruption on the system but would you say the system is powerful than yahweh? Hmmmm seems I would do better than Yahweh if I was all powerful and Dannyfan prayed to me. Surely there is no excuse for an all powerful God.

how many people do you want to be admitted

You know the maths now

250,000 people applying for a vacancy for 2000 people, do you know how to do this maths

you also need to understand that the entire 250,000 people prayed to God to fill up the space

I think, we all want to go to university, even when polythenic are still selling form.

Everyone wanna ride a Rolls Royce I guess, but Rolls Royce produce a limit number of vehicle yearly. Some will surely be affected

I think I waited three years and am in my final year, and my service towards God is solid, amidst thought of suicide after writing my senior waec twice, I think, we need to move on with sth in life and stop pointing fingers to God
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by Martinez19(m): 7:31pm On Dec 03, 2017
GodsMopol:


how many people do you want to be admitted

You know the maths now

250,000 people applying for a vacancy for 2000 people, do you know how to do this maths

you also need to understand that the entire 250,000 people prayed to God to fill up the space

I think, we all want to go to university, even when polythenic are still selling form.

Everyone wanna ride a Rolls Royce I guess, but Rolls Royce produce a limit number of vehicle yearly. Some will surely be affected

I think I waited three years and am in my final year, and my service towards God is solid, amidst thought of suicide after writing my senior waec twice, I think, we need to move on with sth in life and stop pointing fingers to God
nonsense. Everybody prayed to God? Even if people prayed to a God, which one of the gods did they pray to. If the Christian God is the true one, Christians would be the only one in school given the limted opportunities. Besides if he does it batch by batch, due to the limited slots, Muslims should be at the bottom of the list which is not so.

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Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by GodsMopol: 7:40pm On Dec 03, 2017
Martinez19:
nonsense. Everybody prayed to God? Even if people prayed to a God, which one of the gods did they pray to. If the Christian God is the true one, Christians would be the only one in school given the limted opportunities. Besides if he does it batch by batch, due to the limited slots, Muslims should be at the bottom of the list which is not so.

God does not promote laziness, I forgot to add that

If God provide everything I need when I pray, (and I will close here) without me working things with my hands

Then, I don't know which kinda life we would be having here

*pull the curtain*

bye
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by bolinjkezzy(m): 7:41pm On Dec 03, 2017
Day2logic:


Dem never knack u juju before make u just de piss. Abi make u just de run? God de bro and juju sef de.
Them don knack you?
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by Martinez19(m): 7:45pm On Dec 03, 2017
GodsMopol:


God does not promote laziness, I forgot to add that

If God provide everything I need when I pray, (and I will close here) without me working things with my hands

Then, I don't know which kinda life we would be having here

*pull the curtain*

bye
mteww. If you believe in God or not, you will still work to make it, so what special role does God and prayer play?
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by Nobody: 7:48pm On Dec 03, 2017
bolinjkezzy:

Them don knack you?

NO, dem never knack me, but dem nak person for my face for secondary school days.
Baba no go there o.
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by budaatum: 7:51pm On Dec 03, 2017
Martinez19:
Nonsense. There is nothing too hard for God to do yet he couldn't give person admission. You might say he didn't read but as an all powerful being, I could have planted the knowledge in his head or better still prepare him ahead of time. You might say the scripts got misplaced by the handlers hence not God's fault but as an all powerful being, I could have caused the scripts to disappear and appear with other script or prevent it from missing in the first place. You might say it is corruption on the system but would you say the system is powerful than yahweh? Hmmmm seems I would do better than Yahweh if I was all powerful and Dannyfan prayed to me. Surely there is no excuse for an all powerful God.
And indeed, if there was a god then what the fuq was he doing that he could not overcome whatever obstacle prevented Dannyfan from getting admission? But maybe Dannyfan prayed at the wrong time, or didn't pray properly, or not enough, or in a language displeasing to god at the time, or, just saving his admission for some later date when he would benefit from it more.

So Dannyfan, I strongly advised, to be a bit more worldly and not just rely on god. Maybe he should come to see you Martinez19. He can say god done it, and mean you in his heart.
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by GodsMopol: 8:08pm On Dec 03, 2017
Martinez19:
mteww. If you believe in God or not, you will still work to make it, so what special role does God and prayer play?

Prayer has it place

Work has its place.

Prayer brings favour, but in a case, where everyone has favour(certificate), works becomes the second yardstick

Prayer is meant to align us with Gods plan for us.

God has a plan for all of us on earth, our prayer is meant to make things easy for us inside (not outside) the will of God

If God sends his angels to Ohio and the person because of their insensitivity, choose to go to America, things might not work for them.

David could play music, but he was a warrior

Music brought him in contact with Saul, but the skill of the warrior, took him to the throne. One is a gift, the other was a work

Joseph could interprete dreams, but he needed to be in Egypt, so when a problem arises, he would be summoned

Esther was beautiful, and favoured to be the queen, but, it was for the purpose that, someday, a decree will be passed to kill.

Well, I think this piece is getting lengthier,

Lemme summarize this, God gave the entire earth to Adam, Adam lost it by disobedience to Satan, Satan changed all that God gave man control over.

The question of, couldn't God have stopped them from eating it is best answered in this light

Adam spent days without eating the fruit

Eve spent days without eating the fruit

Satan came, why didn't God stop Satan from coming around the garden.

God gave Adam, all He needed to overcome the devil, in the devil, the commandment was, Adam had dominion over everything, Adam was to be blamed, God gave Adam 100% control over the earth, if Adam finds an intruding being in the garden, the natural thing to do is not to go friendly, Eve got friendly and started chatting the devil up
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by Martinez19(m): 8:16pm On Dec 03, 2017
GodsMopol:


Prayer has it place

Work has its place.

Prayer brings favour, but in a case, where everyone has favour(certificate), works becomes the second yardstick

Prayer is meant to align us with Gods plan for us.

God has a plan for all of us on earth, our prayer is meant to make things easy for us inside (not outside) the will of God

If God sends his angels to Ohio and the person because of their insensitivity, choose to go to America, things might not work for them.

David could play music, but he was a warrior

Music brought him in contact with Saul, but the skill of the warrior, took him to the throne. One is a gift, the other was a work

Joseph could interprete dreams, but he needed to be in Egypt, so when a problem arises, he would be summoned

Esther was beautiful, and favoured to be the queen, but, it was for the purpose that, someday, a decree will be passed to kill.

Well, I think this piece is getting lengthier,

Lemme summarize this, God gave the entire earth to Adam, Adam lost it by disobedience to Satan, Satan changed all that God gave man control over.

The question of, couldn't God have stopped them from eating it is best answered in this light

Adam spent days without eating the fruit

Eve spent days without eating the fruit

Satan came, why didn't God stop Satan from coming around the garden.

God gave Adam, all He needed to overcome the devil, in the devil, the commandment was, Adam had dominion over everything, Adam was to be blamed, God gave Adam 100% control over the earth, if Adam finds an intruding being in the garden, the natural thing to do is not to go friendly, Eve got friendly and started chatting the devil up
ahn, I just weak for your matter. grin
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by Nobody: 8:19pm On Dec 03, 2017
Martinez19:
nonsense. Everybody prayed to God? Even if people prayed to a God, which one of the gods did they pray to. If the Christian God is the true one, Christians would be the only one in school given the limted opportunities. Besides if he does it batch by batch, due to the limited slots, Muslims should be at the bottom of the list which is not so.

Martinez19:
Nonsense. There is nothing too hard for God to do yet he couldn't give person admission. You might say he didn't read but as an all powerful being, I could have planted the knowledge in his head or better still prepare him ahead of time. You might say the scripts got misplaced by the handlers hence not God's fault but as an all powerful being, I could have caused the scripts to disappear and appear with other script or prevent it from missing in the first place. You might say it is corruption on the system but would you say the system is powerful than yahweh? Hmmmm seems I would do better than Yahweh if I was all powerful and Dannyfan prayed to me. Surely there is no excuse for an all powerful God.

You know the people that really have strong believe in God are those that have faced something greater than them and overcome, people that understand that it couldn't have been them, there must have been a supernatural power at work. You cant be more knowledgeable than the first set of people they preached Christianity to, and the generations that follows over the time, one thing that makes life livable for all of us is the fear of God, take it from the human race then you might as well be dead by now.

Another thing that keeps us in check is the second coming of Christ, (the mythology) or maybe true story of rapture and end time, if a human doesn't have fear of such ending things would have been very bad for us all by now, so as an atheist. Its okay not to believe in any religion but for them that believe dont take it away from them. If the love your neighbor as yourself thing got to the whole world, it will be a better place in no time, psychologically I think religion is a good thing.

And stop the blasphemy please
Biko.
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by GodsMopol: 8:20pm On Dec 03, 2017
Martinez19:
ahn, I just weak for your matter. grin

Loooooool, you dull of hearing.
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by Snowwy: 8:30pm On Dec 03, 2017
Dannyfan:
I am now having a rethink of my faith, it start just recently. It now bother my mind whether God exist. I just think it start when i wasn't admitted to school last year, after alot of prayer.
Making my faith a pretending one, just to do as majority to be acceptable in our society. Many reason making me to want an atheist view, but just have to say main.
So i need a convincing encouragement that God really exist. I was born to worship God in a christian home and know believing Him have help many other. Mind you i am committed but always full with doubt of existence of God.
Help my dying faith
You just need God to give you a sign. I know you believe He is and is a rewarded of those who diligently seek him. Seek him through His Word...pray to God to reveal Himself to you and that still small voice will be heard. Don't be discouraged. Elijah was once in your situation.
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by Martinez19(m): 8:33pm On Dec 03, 2017
Day2logic:




You know the people that really have strong believe in God are those that have faced something greater than them and overcome, people that understand that it couldn't have been them, there must have been a supernatural power at work. You cant be more knowledgeable than the first set of people they preached Christianity to, and the generations that follows over the time, one thing that makes life livable for all of us is the fear of God, take it from the human race then you might as well be dead by now.

Another thing that keeps us in check is the second coming of Christ, (the mythology) or maybe true story of rapture and end time, if a human doesn't have fear of such ending things would have been very bad for us all by now, so as an atheist. Its okay not to believe in any religion but for them that believe dont take it away from them. If the love your neighbor as yourself thing got to the whole world, it will be a better place in no time, psychologically I think religion is a good thing.

And stop the blasphemy please
Biko.
Just like people thank god after a doctor performs a successful operation on them, they thank god when they overcome problems by their own strength. What about those who are not lucky as they are? Religion is actually not a good thing. It has drawn us back as a specie. Religion has to go. Humans can achieve order even without religion all they need is a good government and strict rules that are always enforced.
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by Dannyfan(m): 6:53am On Dec 04, 2017
Hier:


First of all, I think you should change church

many of you guys are bound under a dead church

no offense

Which church are you attending and where are you based

yea, if your church is an Orthodox church, those are the kinda church I refer to as dead churches, at least, I don't have to explain that
i attend CAC in ilorin, kwara state
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by Hier(m): 10:37am On Dec 04, 2017
Dannyfan:
i attend CAC in ilorin, kwara state

CAC is good, but I think you should attend a youth church, provided you are not under your parents

I think, above all thing, you don't need any other thing than God now

There are anointed ministries like Rhema Chapel and some churches where you can have an outstanding experience with God

Its commonly said, in this world, you shall pass through tribulations, but be of good cheer, we are always more than conqueror

Dude, afflictions and persecution will come, but we are not to crack or give in to them

I will urge you to read 2Corinthians 6:3-18

Well, I have realised that, many times, we complain about what we want people to hear, but underneath are thousands of other things to be answered, so if admission is no1 today, and God addresses it. Another No. 1 will pop up and it keeps going like that

Ehmmmm, I think all you need now is God, nothing else.

I think you should seek God now, and viola, there is He

We have many things to talk about,

see this thread

www.nairaland.com/4212883/eves-sin
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by Nobody: 11:05am On Dec 04, 2017
Dannyfan:
I am now having a rethink of my faith, it start just recently. It now bother my mind whether God exist. I just think it start when i wasn't admitted to school last year, after alot of prayer.
Making my faith a pretending one, just to do as majority to be acceptable in our society. Many reason making me to want an atheist view, but just have to say main.
So i need a convincing encouragement that God really exist. I was born to worship God in a christian home and know believing Him have help many other. Mind you i am committed but always full with doubt of existence of God.
Help my dying faith
God exists. Creation itself tells the story
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by Martinez19(m): 11:28am On Dec 04, 2017
salvation101:
God exists. Creation itself tells the story
creation? Look at the mountains, sun, oceans and living organisms, where is Jesus's name written on any of them? What in them points you to christ?
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by Nobody: 11:37am On Dec 04, 2017
Martinez19:
creation? Look at the mountains, sun, oceans and living organisms, where is Jesus's name written on any of them? What in them points you to christ?
wen you look and see mountain, i look and see order. From the ever expanding universe to dis little sphere of life called Earth. The sun properly positioned to supply constant energy nd light. All the human race needs for survival, food, shelter, clothing etc are here. If u think deeply and you know they couldn't av happened by chance. Atheism is the denial of a Supreme invisible being responsible for the creation... If u check all d these and still believe that there is no God,nd believe everything happened by chaos, den u av a very strong faith grin
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by Martinez19(m): 11:49am On Dec 04, 2017
salvation101:
wen you look and see mountain, i look and see order. From the ever expanding universe to dis little sphere of life called Earth. The sun properly positioned to supply constant energy nd light. All the human race needs for survival, food, shelter, clothing etc are here. If u think deeply and you know they couldn't av happened by chance. Atheism is the denial of a Supreme invisible being responsible for the creation... If u check all d these and still believe that there is no God,nd believe everything happened by chaos, den u av a very strong faith grin
if you look at the mountains and see order, then you are not serious. Go study general relativity and evolution to get your answer.
Re: My Faith Turning To An Atheist by Nobody: 11:54am On Dec 04, 2017
Martinez19:
if you look at the mountains and see order, then you are not serious. Go study general relativity and evolution to get your answer.
same evolution that contradicts itself? If u say u evolved, wat did u evolve from? Who created dat tin? Tell me about d very beginning

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