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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:03pm On Dec 04, 2017
chrisley024:
Man Utd accept Pogba ban

Dude to miss next 3 games.

The right thing to do because if we had appealed we would have lost and get the ban extended. I looked at it several times, he was guilty. If I mentioned it, they would think it was an extension of my argument against Pogba.

He was in control of the ball and lost it to a 50-50 if not 40-60 tackle, then he still went into it with force not minding a human leg was at risk. If it was the sheen that was exposed, does it mean Pogba would climb it to break it instead of falling over the leg?

He didn’t show any sign that he tried to avoid landing on the guys leg heavily.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:05pm On Dec 04, 2017
eph12:

Did we park the bus against arsenal? Did we not score 3 goals and could have scored more? Shey na from our post we score those goals abi?

Are you now indirectly agreeing that bus parking doesn’t affect goal scoring?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 5:21pm On Dec 04, 2017
elampiro:


The right thing to do because if we had appealed we would have lost and get the ban extended. I looked at it several times, he was guilty. If I mentioned it, they would think it was an extension of my argument against Pogba.

He was in control of the ball and lost it to a 50-50 if not 40-60 tackle, then he still went into it with force not minding a human leg was at risk. If it was the sheen that was exposed, does it mean Pogba would climb it to break it instead of falling over the leg?

He didn’t show any sign that he tried to avoid landing on the guys leg heavily.
Anyone can lose ball though but a silly and dangerous foul
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:21pm On Dec 04, 2017
Oasis007:
"Yes, [Asked if he had ever worked with a better goalkeeper than David De Gea] Romero. Because he plays tomorrow and my goalkeeper is always the best goalkeeper in the world.

"So now David is the third best. Romero is number one and Joel [Pereira] number two, and David is the third best."

- JOSE MOURINHO


Mourinho! cheesy cheesy ....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:22pm On Dec 04, 2017
elampiro:


Rooney was old na. Lukaku is young.

From what I can deduce now, Lukaku is poor being isolated up front just like Chicharito.
So the Rooney we have at everton is no more old?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hoopLA: 5:25pm On Dec 04, 2017
elampiro:


[s]Just agree say you no know ball and listen to the football intelligentsia].

The first Assist can be given by anyone. I can credit him for the second one for some craft work in it, although mechanical[/s].

This megalomaniac doesn't know when to chop his L.

First Assist ko, First assurance ni.

Pogba had two assists Saturday, inspite of whatever you say.

You claimed Pogba was a sh1tty player in the past, but he created the most chances for us last season. Now you have jumped on to the Lukaku-is-playing-badly bandwagon.Despite enough evidence to the contrary over his performance on Saturday from established soccer journalists that are objective enough to call it as they see it, unlike you the cros-eyed dimwit. You have now shifted to chances missed, but even folks are telling you that you are chatting your usual barrel of sh1t with your so-called facts.

I'd rather go deaf than listen to you and your kpokpo garri analysis where you chat enough sh1t to keep waste disposal companies busy.

Blowing unnecessary grammar for who, I don't know. Instead of agreeing you goofed, you are here spoiling English.

Please prove Pogba had a poor season last year, instead of shoving your measly analysis down our throats.

All for the sake of refusing to admit that you goofed in your criticism.

I pity the unfortunate village woman who marries you sha. Na to just dey kitchen dey pound yam for you be her sentence for life.

Abeg don't even bother to respond. I don't have enough time to engage in dispelling sh1t talks like you do.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hoopLA: 5:29pm On Dec 04, 2017
eph12:

So the Rooney we have at everton is no more old?

This sh1t merchant will soon bring up the curvature in Rooney's spine that existed while at United, that has suddenly disappeared courtesy of TB Joshua's healing.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:30pm On Dec 04, 2017
^^^^^^^ Sports section. Chai grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:32pm On Dec 04, 2017
Oasis007:


undecided

Ain't you tired of this endless Argument with Elamp? Don't you know Rooney is like a god to him?! Seem you want the Pages to reach 5000 this Week?!
cheesy
Be like I just dey bored since yesterday. But I don't even know why Lukaku matter dey pain me set. Probably because I already know what to expect from him and as far as I'm concerned he is doing a lot for the team already. Looking at it, it seems Jose is playing to the strength of the team right now. Even at the beginning of the match yesterday, Lingard started ahead of Lukaku. He was the one pressing for the ball in the striker position when we had a Lukaku on the field. From where I'm standing, that says a lot

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:36pm On Dec 04, 2017
Then one ghost went to bring up Sakho rating but forgot to check up Lukaku rating from the same site. In words of the professionals, Lukaku linked up play well, providing an outlet for his team. But some slim quack Einsteins want us to think otherwise. Never again
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 6:09pm On Dec 04, 2017
eph12:

cheesy
Be like I just dey bored since yesterday. But I don't even know why Lukaku matter dey pain me set. Probably because I already know what to expect from him and as far as I'm concerned he is doing a lot for the team already. Looking at it, it seems Jose is playing to the strength of the team right now. Even at the beginning of the match yesterday, Lingard started ahead of Lukaku. He was the one pressing for the ball in the striker position when we had a Lukaku on the field. From where I'm standing, that says a lot


grin

If indeed you are bored, then you've really found the right person to help you break the boredom..... Ride on Bro!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 6:35pm On Dec 04, 2017
Oasis007:


grin

End of this Month!

He'll be back by 23rd na smiley. The game against Leicester.

We can't afford to miss him for a whole month
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 6:45pm On Dec 04, 2017
Leyqute:


He'll be back by 23rd na smiley. The game against Leicester.

We can't afford to miss him for a whole month

grin

We are talking about Luke Shaw Bro!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 6:54pm On Dec 04, 2017
eph12:

Tell me which small team we didn't struggle against especially during that Mkhi sad era. Was it not Huddersfield he had to go to the wings to cross the ball for Rashford for our only goal? Which other small team did we play that Lukaku had someone carrying the ball to him through middle and not all those crosses that defence do find it easy to deal with. Chelsea City Arsenal Liverpool have players carrying balls through the middle creating space but we has to turn to the wings every time when we don't even have a RW. Crosses no dey pass the first or second person but we want Lukaku to score 100 goals with those one one big chance and 100 snap shots

some people did not give Pogba last season this same benefit of the doubt but that's not the point

I can't even count how many big chances Lukaku missed in those games against the so called small teams, he is either blasting balls into the stance or drifting to the right when he is supposed to be running behind defenders creating space for himself to receive the ball, he did this a lot against Watford, I can't count the number of times Lukaku was out of position when Lingard had the ball, Watch the replay of Lingard's goal against Watford and see what I am talking about, Lukaku was out wide and I was glad Lingard didn't pass that ball to him, or was it mourihno's tactics that made him forget how to score a simple tap in against Watford? Or na mourihno tactics na make am forget how to position all of a sudden? I have never seen Lukaku to be an Intelligent striker

This doesn't mean I don't support him, All I want is for him to improve on his positioning and decision making, these days, he barely knows what to do with the ball
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 7:54pm On Dec 04, 2017
Oasis007:


grin

We are talking about Luke Shaw Bro!

Oh. My bad.

The fact that Mourinho refused to sign a player for that position does suggests to some extent, that he expects Shaw to buckle up and claim it.

Of course I may be wrong.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 7:59pm On Dec 04, 2017
chrisley024:
Man Utd accept Pogba ban

Dude to miss next 3 games.


Such a terrible time to miss him. City match an even bigger task now. I still think there was no intent in the tackle even though the result was an unfortunate stamp as Bellerin knelt down at the exact moment of impact. So way was it premeditated.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:09pm On Dec 04, 2017
MRTA7:



Such a terrible time to miss him. City match an even bigger task now. I still think there was no intent in the tackle even though the result was an unfortunate stamp as Bellerin knelt down at the exact moment of impact. So way was it premeditated.

Mark this , United will beat city.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:13pm On Dec 04, 2017
eph12:

So the Rooney we have at everton is no more old?

3 goals in one match boosted his stats. I am not convinced that he can carry on scoring at that rate. He is currently ahead of Lukaku on goals per minutes, but he wont be near Lukaku at the end.

Lukaku is not just doing enough looking at his play at United, particularly in recent matches. That's my argument.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:17pm On Dec 04, 2017
dopeJemi:


some people did not give Pogba last season this same benefit of the doubt but that's not the point

I can't even count how many big chances Lukaku missed in those games against the so called small teams, he is either blasting balls into the stance or drifting to the right when he is supposed to be running behind defenders creating space for himself to receive the ball, he did this a lot against Watford, I can't count the number of times Lukaku was out of position when Lingard had the ball, Watch the replay of Lingard's goal against Watford and see what I am talking about, Lukaku was out wide and I was glad Lingard didn't pass that ball to him, or was it mourihno's tactics that made him forget how to score a simple tap in against Watford? Or na mourihno tactics na make am forget how to position all of a sudden? I have never seen Lukaku to be an Intelligent striker

This doesn't mean I don't support him, All I want is for him to improve on his positioning and decision making, these days, he barely knows what to do with the ball
When you put it like this fine but not when somebody comes to ask what Lukaku is doing in/for the team or calling for him to be benched. That is being unfair to his contribution so far. I still insist that there is no striker that would do better than him right now. I don't want to believe he shys away from the box, or was it not him that was going after rebound in the box early this season? Is this not the same Lukaku that was scoring goals early this season? Teams have started running at us, our midfield can no longer control play and you expect Lukaku to score goals. Kane has just two more goals than him, just forking two and people are already calling for his head. Haba

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:18pm On Dec 04, 2017
hoopLA:


This megalomaniac doesn't know when to chop his L.

First Assist ko, First assurance ni.

Pogba had two assists Saturday, inspite of whatever you say.

You claimed Pogba was a sh1tty player in the past, but he created the most chances for us last season. Now you have jumped on to the Lukaku-is-playing-badly bandwagon.Despite enough evidence to the contrary over his performance on Saturday from established soccer journalists that are objective enough to call it as they see it, unlike you the cros-eyed dimwit. You have now shifted to chances missed, but even folks are telling you that you are chatting your usual barrel of sh1t with your so-called facts.

I'd rather go deaf than listen to you and your kpokpo garri analysis where you chat enough sh1t to keep waste disposal companies busy.

Blowing unnecessary grammar for who, I don't know. Instead of agreeing you goofed, you are here spoiling English.

Please prove Pogba had a poor season last year, instead of shoving your measly analysis down our throats.

All for the sake of refusing to admit that you goofed in your criticism.

I pity the unfortunate village woman who marries you sha. Na to just dey kitchen dey pound yam for you be her sentence for life.

Abeg don't even bother to respond. I don't have enough time to engage in dispelling sh1t talks like you do.

Tai! Mata and Rooney were the ones who were the most creative last season(in terms of chances created), not Pogba. Mata created a chance every 36 minutes.

You and the four people who liked your comment are football ignoramus.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:21pm On Dec 04, 2017
elampiro:


3 goals in one match boosted his stats. I am not convinced that he can carry on scoring at that rate. He is currently ahead of Lukaku on goals per minutes, but he wont be near Lukaku at the end.

Lukaku is not just doing enough looking at his play at United, particularly in recent matches. That's my argument.
Can u name just one striker that will do better in our current set up, especially the period when we had a short one in midfield and Lukaku had to come deep to get involved?

At highlighted then why you bringing his name up in this discussion? Ihenacho had a better goal/minute ratio for City but we know who the better striker is.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 8:23pm On Dec 04, 2017
Leyqute:


Oh. My bad.

The fact that Mourinho refused to sign a player for that position does suggests to some extent, that he expects Shaw to buckle up and claim it.

Of course I may be wrong.

I believe JM loves Shaw, and he's simply pushing him to fulfill his Potentials. I've not lost all Faith in him. And kinda hoping he's gonna come good for the Team very soon.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:32pm On Dec 04, 2017
eph12:


Can u name just one striker that will do better in our current set up, especially the period when we had a short one in midfield and Lukaku had to come deep to get involved?
.

Criticizing a player doesn't mean we are saying he should be benched for another. We are not disputing his scoring ability, but there are areas we have highlighted you people don't want to see. Okay, Lukaku is 100%, he is world class striker, world class hold up play and bringing others into play. Are you happy now?

eph12:

At highlighted then why you bringing his name up in this discussion? Ihenacho had a better goal/minute ratio for City but we know who the better striker is

You brought up Rooney's name in comparison.

Ihenacho is like Chicharito, play them for 30 minutes, they score the much elusive goal to win the match. At such situations, everyone is playing to the arrow head. But start them, they become ghost or headless chicken. I remember when people used to argue that Chicharito is our best striker based on such stats.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mikechinos(m): 8:33pm On Dec 04, 2017
hehe

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:50pm On Dec 04, 2017
elampiro:


Criticizing a player doesn't mean we are saying he should be benched for another. We are not disputing his scoring ability, but there are areas we have highlighted you people don't want to see. Okay, Lukaku is 100%, he is world class striker, world class hold up play and bringing others into play. Are you happy now?



You brought up Rooney's name in comparison.

Ihenacho is like Chicharito, play them for 30 minutes, they score the much elusive goal to win the match. At such situations, everyone is playing to the arrow head. But start them, they become ghost or headless chicken. I remember when people used to argue that Chicharito is our best striker based on such stats.
I brought up Rooney's name first? Why would i do that?

Maybe not you, but some actually called for him to be benched. I was responding to them. Lukaku has not even been close to 80% but so has the team. Nobody is asking why our midfield is overrun or why we are having a lot of disjointed attacks but they want a Lukaku that does not have the speed of Aguero to be at the winds to cross the ball and also be at the 18 to nod it. He has missed chances but then when i look at all the places he has to be i feel i can excuse him. His missed clear cut chances are only well pronounced because they are quite few. After all he has missed almost same number of big chances as other strikers so why is his case different? People are now making it seem like he has missed 10 big chances and others have missed 2-3. Kilode
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:02pm On Dec 04, 2017
eph12:

I brought up Rooney's name first? Why would i do that?

Maybe not you, but some actually called for him to be benched. I was responding to them. Lukaku has not even been close to 80% but so has the team. Nobody is asking why our midfield is overrun or why we are having a lot of disjointed attacks but they want a Lukaku that does not have the speed of Aguero to be at the winds to cross the ball and also be at the 18 to nod it.

You mean a midfield that has world class Pogba is overrun? That can't be true.

eph12:

His missed clear cut chances are only well pronounced because they are quite few. After all he has missed almost same number of big chances as other strikers so why is his case different? People are now making it seem like he has missed 10 big chances and others have missed 2-3. Kilode

You guys were arguing that for every goal scored by Aguero, Kane, Lacazette, that they miss three clear cut chances. That was why I brought that chart to show they all miss same number of big chances, but Lukaku is a poorer scorer currently. If he scores the typical strikers goals, his stats will be up. E be like he even miss penalty sef.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:10pm On Dec 04, 2017
elampiro:


You mean a midfield that has world class Pogba is overrun? That can't be true.



You guys were arguing that for every goal scored by Aguero, Kane, Lacazette, that they miss three clear cut chances. That was why I brought that chart to show they all miss same number of big chances, but Lukaku is a poorer scorer currently. If he scores the typical strikers goals, his stats will be up. E be like he even miss penalty sef.
Before Pogba went on injury, Lukaku was scoring goals. He just came back, not after Lukaku and others have to go through the trauma of playing with a ghost. Do you know how many times Jose has changed the team to get the right players? No one can predict who will play against City but we can almost predict City's team sheet. Other big teams we know who will make up the attacking quartet but we can only guess who will pair Lukaku.

How many goals have they those strikers scored and how many big chances have they missed? Is there any significant gap in both? I don't get
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:11pm On Dec 04, 2017
Chances created this season

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 10:46pm On Dec 04, 2017
eph12:

When you put it like this fine but not when somebody comes to ask what Lukaku is doing in/for the team or calling for him to be benched. That is being unfair to his contribution so far. I still insist that there is no striker that would do better than him right now. I don't want to believe he shys away from the box, or was it not him that was going after rebound in the box early this season? Is this not the same Lukaku that was scoring goals early this season? Teams have started running at us, our midfield can no longer control play and you expect Lukaku to score goals. Kane has just two more goals than him, just forking two and people are already calling for his head. Haba

honestly, I wasn't carried away by his early season form, Why? because of the quality of his goals, most were just too easy, though "easy" doesn't mean it can't be missed, I still believe Lukaku's best goal for United in the EPL came against West Ham, his opener.. I am not taking anything away from his quality though, he can be deadly no doubt but I am still not a 100% convinced about his overall style of play, I wanted Aubumeyang though

I Hope Lukaku comes good in the end, with the right set up, he should
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:04am On Dec 05, 2017
Match day, Shaw should start abeg...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:53am On Dec 05, 2017
dopeJemi:


honestly, I wasn't carried away by his early season form, Why? because of the quality of his goals, most were just too easy, though "easy" doesn't mean it can't be missed, I still believe Lukaku's best goal for United in the EPL came against West Ham, his opener.. I am not taking anything away from his quality though, he can be deadly no doubt but I am still not a 100% convinced about his overall style of play, I wanted Aubumeyang though

I Hope Lukaku comes good in the end, with the right set up, he should
I wasn't excited when Lukaku was announced, and it would have been the same for any other striker. I was more concerned about the RW and our midfield. If Mkhi had continued with his early season form we won't be having this discussion. Aubumeyang will struggle too because we hardly play fast attacking game, just once in a while it happens. He will have to depend on his individual brilliance to get something for himself but that is not sustainable. Messi with his out of the world brilliance can't do it alone. He needs his team to dominate. We need to improve our team play before we can talk about Lukaku. Yes Lukaku has been underperforming but so has his team mates.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 8:54am On Dec 05, 2017
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