eph12:
Who saw Grizzy play? Is he still the messiah as reported?

I have said it time and again that griezman is very good but overrated. 85-100m on him is a waste of money considering he is even 27.

joeace2020:


That is what is driving the old mans behavior. Making a case for rooney's contribution to the team back in the days of his goal droughts but not seeing that for Lukaku because he has swallowed hook, line and sinker the Bias Jam body, no technicality footballer the press has sold him. I will take a Lukaku going through a goal drought over the sh1t mr Rodney was serving us for 2, 3 years before he was sold. I will take a coach who says a player's contribution besides the goals drives him crazy over some self proclaimed soccer genius who nobody besides his family members know for his football knowledge.

The media sold this gibberish to sell paper, them the trolls from the other clubs looking for something to hold on against him latched on it to show their hate, then our apoĺlo analyst fans ignorantly joined the bandwagon to push the agenda. Even if it's Messi, ofcourse Ronaldos fan must find something to discredit him with, I am too experienced in terms of football "turn turn" to be cowed by all these rubbish epistles by those who claim they know. They have get off the back of mourinho for playing bad football, he shut them up, now its Lukakus turn, last year it was Pogba, may be next it will be Matic, then Rojo, and it's goes round. After na them go de talk say women de nag. Keep complaining

I've said it before, Ukaku's major flaw is just that he's technically limited, which makes him miss chances, but apart from that, that ninja is good.

I've not seen a striker currently that puts in work more than that lad. His work rate is atrocious. He plays for the team, and covers much ground as possible. it's why he seem not to be in the 18-yard box most of the time.

Last night was a beautiful performance from him, filled with energy and determination. He never gave up, always on the move. He'd have gotten an assist if not Rashidi's miss. I'm so happy for him, he's been finally rewarded for all his hard work. This talk of Mourinho dropping him should never resurface. Zlatan can't work hard like him, Zlatan might be a better scorer than him, but we need Ukaku's firepower in that derby.

hoopLA:

Don't you see traits of self-absorbed megalomania disorder manifesting in this Edo pounded yam and palm wine consumer?
Only a loudmouth empty barrel keeps trying to justify itself even when there is no need to.
We won. Simple enough. Accomplished top spot. in the knockout stage for the first time in four years.
But this loud mouthed broken drum won't let us hear, spamming these pages with unnecessary "facts" just to prove he is the "soccer king". Whoever coronated it with that title is an idiot and whoever believes it makes anysense shouldn't have been born.
I wonder why we even engage this insecure lonely,attention-seeking, emotionally brittle bald old man on any level of discourse when it is clear it is bordering on lunacy.

Bro, please stop with the insults. We're all one family here. No need to bring insults when opinions differs. It's understandable with non-United fans, but we as United fans can agree to disagree. Please cut out the insults.

Elamps needs to calm down, as a former amateur professional in Edo we know say you too "know ball" so you can argue with yourself to set a record straight. Guy calm down.

Capitalcee you also need to try to accommodate other peoples opinion. it seems when others go against what you think about a player you feel that they know nothing and then to always make snide remarks about them. That post Patrick post was directed at you just that elampiro don jump on him bike and was ready to take no prisoners.

I Dont know if it is wrong to point out what a player did wrong IN A PARTICULAR MATCH even if that player generally plays well, it's just that some of us feel Lukaku should be doing a bit more than he is doing generally. On this particular match he did well both in his link up and the fact that he scored was cool and I can say most that criticized him have acknowledged it.

if tomorrow he goes back to what we Dont like we will criticize him. what we all clamour for is for our players to be more consistent positive play so that when they have that occasional stinker they can be forgiven.

Let's be mature abeg when addressing each other. although e don tey wey we see correct fight for this thread.

eph12:
Who saw Grizzy play? Is he still the messiah as reported?

I don't know if he's the messiah we are longing for, but he played well for me last night. I love his darting runs which if seen by an AM like KDB can lead to goals. He's fast, a bit skillful, doesn't have a poor first touch and makes move into the 18-yard box. If played behind a striker like Ukaku, he'll flourish because Ukaku can drag defenders out giving him the perfect opportunities to sneak in behind and wreck major havoc.

Lindelof is becoming a new Vidic, and no one is talking about it?! Shaw had a good Game last Night, won Fans' MOTM, yet little were said about him?! JM seems to have found a good balance for the Team with 3 - 5 - 2, yet the Einsteins ain't discussing the new Formation and Players' setup?!

The 3CBs at the back are well covered, Bailly - Jones - Rojo or Lindelof - Smalling - Blind, the Depth is there to discuss and factually analyze, yet little Attention is given to it?! Shaw has picked up, played well as a LWB, a good Competitor for Young..... should he still be sold or not?!

Tunazebe seems ready to deputize for Valencia, Darmian ain't impressing till now..... should he be sold or not?! Fellaini ain't ready to renew his Contract based on United Terms, McTominay is proving to be a huge Talent..... Fellaini should be offloaded or not?!

Pls, let shift away from Lukaku Matter, these are Matters arising, let's discuss it.

Oasis007:
Except a Person truly has a bring-him-down Agenda on Lukaku as opinionated by CapitalCee, that he would be blinded to see the immense Improvements of him as a Striker, a Target Man, and his Contributions to the Team.

Lukaku is improving week in week out. He's becoming a complete, modern Striker gradually. He's definitely gonna become a Hit, a world-class Striker very soon. His Ball Control has improved a lot. His passes are becoming top-notch, aerially, as a Target-Man, he has been Fantastic.

Lukaku this, Lukaku that...... for what?! Do they wanna see him fail at United, simply to get a bragging Right that - Rooney shouldn't have been sold, coz he's better than Lukaku?!

Elampiro's opinions on Ukaku has nothing to do with Rooney. Elampawa might be a hardened Rooney fan, but his criticism of Ukaku is borne out of his desire to see Ukaku do well especially when chances are presented to him. We all want Ukaku to do well, sometimes I feel it's out of frustration, especially seeing other strikers score easily, that makes us react to Ukaku's misses. But Rooney has nothing to do with it.

CapitalCee:


I have said it time and again that griezman is very good but overrated. 85-100m on him is a waste of money considering he is even 27.

It's that money and his age too that scares me. If he's 24 or lesser, I wouldn't mind, but at that age, that money seems too high. But he's a good player and after a temporary loss of form has picked up again. You can't use a tough fixture like last night to judge him.

sinizia:


I don't know if he's the messiah we are longing for, but he played well for me last night. I love his darting runs which if seen by an AM like KDB can lead to goals. He's fast, a bit skillful, doesn't have a poor first touch and makes move into the 18-yard box. If played behind a striker like Ukaku, he'll flourish because Ukaku can drag defenders out giving him the perfect opportunities to sneak in behind and wreck major havoc.

We don't just need someone that will be looking for space, we also need him to create spaces for others like Silva

sinizia:


Elampiro's opinions on Ukaku has nothing to do with Rooney. Elampawa might be a hardened Rooney fan, but his criticism of Ukaku is borne out of his desire to see Ukaku do well especially when chances are presented to him. We all want Ukaku to do well, sometimes I feel it's out of frustration, especially seeing other strikers score easily, that makes us react to Ukaku's misses. But Rooney has nothing to do with it.

Bro..... let's give Lukaku some breathing space on this Thread. I guess you know the leading Goals Scorer in the League ain't a Striker, rather a Winger?!

How many Goals do Aguero, Kane, Morata and Co get?! Pls let criticize the Guy fairly coz we all know his Limits before his Acquisition?!

Everyone is hoping he's gonna improve on his deficiencies, and I think he's on the right Track so far.

eph12:

We don't just need someone that will be looking for space, we also need him to create spaces for others like Silva

How does a Striker or SS create space for others? considering you Dont want him to look for space.

is looking for space not more realistic?

sinizia:


Elampiro's opinions on Ukaku has nothing to do with Rooney. Elampawa might be a hardened Rooney fan, but his criticism of Ukaku is borne out of his desire to see Ukaku do well especially when chances are presented to him. We all want Ukaku to do well, sometimes I feel it's out of frustration, especially seeing other strikers score easily, that makes us react to Ukaku's misses. But Rooney has nothing to do with it.

Nah other strikers don't score easily. Look at all the attacking teams and compare their strikers output with Lukaku. I can't begin to mention all the strikers, home and abroad, but the difference is not what we paint it to be. Lukaku link up play has been good. He has kept the ball rolling for most of the goals we have scored recently. His goals will come if he stays in the box but can he afford to?

codedguy1:


How does a Striker or SS create space for others? considering you Dont want him to look for space.

is looking for space not more realistic?

You misunderstood me or I probably misunderstood sinizia. I thought his looking for space was to score goals

sinizia:


Bro, please stop with the insults. We're all one family here. No need to bring insults when opinions differs. It's understandable with non-United fans, but we as United fans can agree to disagree. Please cut out the insults.

You didn't see him subtly insult me. All you saw is my response.

Normally I don't engage in stuff like this, but this fellow talks down on people in a way that is denigrating and debasing that it's revolting to me.

If you argue a position with him that is counter to his opinion, you no know ball. Even when the fellow has his foot in his mouth after goofing with his punditry.

So why am I the only one receiving this memo?

Tell me why he will pick on Lukaku even when we won? When Lukaku even scored and put in a decent shift? Isn't there something wrong somewhere?

Please without meaning to sound aggressive towards you, you are sending this memo to the wrong person. With due respect.

codedguy1:
Elamps needs to calm down, as a former amateur professional in Edo we know say you too "know ball" so you can argue with yourself to set a record straight. Guy calm down.

Capitalcee you also need to try to accommodate other peoples opinion. it seems when others go against what you think about a player you feel that they know nothing and then to always make snide remarks about them. That post Patrick post was directed at you just that elampiro don jump on him bike and was ready to take no prisoners.

I Dont know if it is wrong to point out what a player did wrong IN A PARTICULAR MATCH even if that player generally plays well, it's just that some of us feel Lukaku should be doing a bit more than he is doing generally. On this particular match he did well both in his link up and the fact that he scored was cool and I can say most that criticized him have acknowledged it.

if tomorrow he goes back to what we Dont like we will criticize him. what we all clamour for is for our players to be more consistent positive play so that when they have that occasional stinker they can be forgiven.

Let's be mature abeg when addressing each other. although e don tey wey we see correct fight for this thread.

Well said. You spoke my mind totally on this issue. Opinions will always differ, no need for the snide remarks or insults.

adebayo201:
when them talk say make them no fight, baba don off him shirt ... You no dey argue yet you dey throw bottles!

Ehmm.. Ayam not understands!

Oasis007:



Lindelof is becoming a new Vidic, and no one is talking about it?! Shaw had a good Game last Night, won Fans' MOTM, yet little were said about him?! JM seems to have found a good balance for the Team with 3 - 5 - 2, yet the Einsteins ain't discussing the new Formation and Players' setup?!

The 3CBs at the back are well covered, Bailly - Jones - Rojo or Lindelof - Smalling - Blind, the Depth is there to discuss and factually analyze, yet little Attention is given to it?! Shaw has picked up, played well as a LWB, a good Competitor for Young..... should he still be sold or not?!

Tunazebe seems ready to deputize for Valencia, Darmian ain't impressing till now..... should he be sold or not?! Fellaini ain't ready to renew his Contract based on United Terms, McTominay is proving to be a huge Talent..... Fellaini should be offloaded or not?!

Pls, let shift away from Lukaku Matter, these are Matters arising, let's discuss it.

Pogba dominated discussions of last season, now it's Ukaku, so expect more days like this. Lindeolf has been growing in his display, we all can see it, but sadly Ukaku debates seem to have taken the shine off Shaw and Lindeolf's performances.

I especially love the guy's composure on the ball, very good confidence. Smalling is not doing too bad, and he bullied their CF last night which I absolutely love.

As for Shaw, apart from his loss in concentration last night for that goal, he played well. I don't think he'd be sold, but I still want us to get another LB like Rose in January just in case he gets injured or doesn't fulfil his potential. Our LB is a weak point for us.

sinizia:


Elampiro's opinions on Ukaku has nothing to do with Rooney. Elampawa might be a hardened Rooney fan, but his criticism of Ukaku is borne out of his desire to see Ukaku do well especially when chances are presented to him. We all want Ukaku to do well, sometimes I feel it's out of frustration, especially seeing other strikers score easily, that makes us react to Ukaku's misses. But Rooney has nothing to do with it.

I tire o

When I even supported Lukaku's coming. It looks like I am the only one who has never called him Jambody

eph12:

We don't just need someone that will be looking for space, we also need him to create spaces for others like Silva

It's either we get an SS to score goals for us like Griezmann, or we get a creative AM like Silva or Ozïl to unlock defence, we can't have both.

sinizia:


It's either we get an SS to score goals for us like Griezmann, or we get a creative AM like Silva or Ozïl to unlock defence, we can't have both.

Well I think we need more defence unlockers. Everyone can contribute to the goal scoring

eph12:

Nah other strikers don't score easily. Look at all the attacking teams and compare their strikers output with Lukaku. I can't begin to mention all the strikers, home and abroad, but the difference is not what we paint it to be. Lukaku link up play has been good. He has kept the ball rolling for most of the goals we have scored recently. His goals will come if he stays in the box but can he afford to?

Always on point,good that we still have fans that knows Lukaku's contribution to the team..Lukaku's work rate is exceptional.

eph12:

Nah other strikers don't score easily. Look at all the attacking teams and compare their strikers output with Lukaku. I can't begin to mention all the strikers, home and abroad, but the difference is not what we paint it to be. Lukaku link up play has been good. He has kept the ball rolling for most of the goals we have scored recently. His goals will come if he stays in the box but can he afford to?

I worded my post back there wrongly. I meant score "easy chances" or "strikers goals" like Elampiro would call it. Look at what Morata missed last night, it's that sort of miss that would've caused chaos on this thread. Guaranteed that ALL strikers miss chances, but some chances are so huge that when strikers miss them you'll be wondering how they made it to professional football. Lukaku has had his fair share of big chances misses, same thing that made us angry about our strikers last season. It's why Pogba had about 4 or 5 of a would-be assists denied for him last season.

Ukaku needs to work on his scoring ability, IMHO.

Hian!!!

Sinizia we need someone that can spot a run and release those kind of diagonal defence splitting passes. Pogba needs a partner in the middle. Lukaku Rashford Martial Lingard and even the midfielders can share in the goals if they make the runs like they have been doing. They just need more people to spot the run before the defence recover

elampiro:
I didn't expect Lukaku to play poorly against CSKA.

Against Arsenal he was poor, and not because he didn't score.

The first time I criticized Lukaku was against Arsenal, although he had been showing signs of poor contribution for about a month now. Now, someone said it is because of Rooney I attacked Lukaku. Na wa!

So a player that got 7-8 rating had a woeful night SMH

Looking like We gonna have one Xmas Heavyweight no holds barred brawl soon!


Wait for it!!!

sinizia:


I worded my post back there wrongly. I meant score "easy chances" or "strikers goals" like Elampiro would call it. Look at what Morata missed last night, it's that sort of miss that would've caused chaos on this thread. Guaranteed that ALL strikers miss chances, but some chances are so huge that when strikers miss them you'll be wondering how they made it to professional football. Lukaku has had his fair share of big chances misses, same thing that made us angry about our strikers last season. It's why Pogba had about 4 or 5 of a would-be assists denied for him last season.

Ukaku needs to work on his scoring ability, IMHO.

Occasionally top strikers misses these kind of big chances which is perfectly normal. Elampiro even brought a stat to prove this. They can only get better when they continue to get more and not playing from the midfield or as the SS instead of the CF and that is my point

Meanwhile Dybala dey hungry me , seem to fancy him over Griezzy at the moment

I no watch the match,I dey read great things about Shaw's performance don't want to get my hopes up sha.
We'll need a great performance from Ukaku if we go get anything from the city game, make yesterday goal work wonder for hin confidence.

chrisley024:
So a player that got 7-8 rating had a woeful night SMH

You no know ball! Keep Kwayet!!!