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Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by Nobody: 10:43pm On Dec 05, 2017 |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by Nigeriadondie: 11:37pm On Dec 05, 2017 |
Pidgin2:He said d truth na. Catholic faith is a deviation from true christianity. The beliefs and practices of the catholic church is pagan. For example where do u see purgatory, infant baptism, canonization of dead as saints, unholy celebrations like Christmas which was a Roman pagan celebration, celibacy of priests, intercession by saints, honouring Mary whom u claim is the mother of God. If u can worship God why can’t u worship him mama rather than mere honour as u guys would claim. Read the Bible not some bulletin. 1 Like |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by wtfcoded: 7:47am On Dec 06, 2017 |
Gruvychuky:and also on u. 1 Like |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by suavetony(m): 8:01am On Dec 06, 2017 |
sefiureal: Follow any path that you think truly leads to God but don't condemn so you will not be condemned. I am highly logical...not easily deceived. I am not blindfolded bro...I have tested Catholic Faith that made me believe. Like the Bible said...taste and see that the Lord is good. How then can you fathom something you've not tasted or in a deep relationship with but from afar off said is false? Have you ever thought of why almost all churches are against the Catholic faith even from within the church? Christ himself told Peter that the gate of hell shall never prevail... somethings are above your reach to understand that's why you need to pray for discernment... very important! 1 Like |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by Costanostra: 8:26am On Dec 06, 2017 |
danvon:First, we don't worship Mary, we accord her the respect she deserved for being the mother of Christ himself and also for conceiving him through the power of the Holy Spirit. Secondly, as regards statue, Jesus died on the cross for us so yes catholics see the sign of the crucifix as Christ himself but the real worship is in one's relationship with neighbours, doing good and shunning vices....that's Christ like and embodies his teachings. Third, Jesus is and was never a mama's boy....he was just practicing what he teaches...obedience. Honour thy father and mother...one of the commandments....a leader leads by example. Comparing Catholics worshiping the statue of Jesus Christ to Idolatry is tantamount to kissing death cux Christ died on the cross for our sins...God made man so that we may have salvation...Idol worshipers engage in all forms of diabolical things, uses blood to feed whatever spirit they are worshiping and most times preach vengeance, an eye for an eye...You should know that an eye for an eye leaves everybody blind. Christ preaches forgiveness, love, peace, oneness, compassion. etc. 1 Like |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by PaChukwudi44(m): 8:37am On Dec 06, 2017 |
JoeB1988: lol Funny enough all these churches practises similar doctrines like catholics including the use of images,veneration of saints etc |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by Themandator: 10:00am On Dec 06, 2017 |
suavetony: Is the one at Fatima true and authentic, because her message there was also a collection of blaspheme. |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by Marybrit(f): 10:12am On Dec 06, 2017 |
santopelele:I have heard dem say may d God of ****** "one of dia general overseers name" be with u...and I was like wat d Bleep!!!! his own God dey different? 1 Like |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by suavetony(m): 11:15am On Dec 06, 2017 |
Themandator: Is true and authentic. Some of them...1.Dedication of Russia to her Immaculate heart which eventually lead to collapse of Communist states 2. Wars if humans keep on offending God which came to pass 3. Three days darkness which is in the Bible...yet to come and a lot more. The only thing holding God not to destroy his creation is the countless intercessory prayer for mercy from His Mother, The Saints, Priest, Religious, Pastors and other holy children of God. Our primary mission on earth is to make heaven...all others are secondary. If you've discovered a way to make heaven, continue on that path but stop condemning! |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by PaChukwudi44(m): 11:22am On Dec 06, 2017 |
Nigeriadondie: where in the bible were all this practises condemned? |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by chalz493: 2:19pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
My friend you should be grateful that the catholic you hate so much gave you the bible you brag with,and if I may ask where the bible said every argument can be settled with the bible? UbanmeUdie: |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by chalz493: 2:27pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
Which bible? The one catholic church gave you guys or the recopied and reduced 66 papers you guys carry up and down? ultimate77: |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by bahaushe1: 2:28pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
There is no difference between he who worships Virgin Mary and he who worships Jesus Christ. They are all worshipping human beings. If one desire guidance then he should worship God. God that created earth, heavens, and all that is within them. God that is ONE without a son, partner, or co-equal. God that created Noah (pbuh) and sent him with message of guidance and truth. God that created Abraham (pbuh) and sent him with guidance and light to the world. God that created Moses (pbuh) saved him from the tyrrany of the Pharaoh and spoke to him directly behind a veil. God that created Virgin Mary, choose her above women of all nations and blessed her with a miraculous child. God that created Jesus Christ (pbuh) from Mary without a father, made him a Prophet and Messenger, and a mercy to the world. God that created Muhammad (pbuh) as His servant and seal of the Prophets. This is the God that is worthy of worship for those who seek guidance. |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by chalz493: 2:34pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
mazimee:so where is the nameless church today and when did the church went into extinction and why did it go if it actually does? |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by Yuji: 5:21pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
shekauvsbuhari:Still blabbering. Virgin Mary never died. She was assumed into heaven and the scriptures it was is in the Catholic Bible (deutracanomical books) The same one protestants removed from theirs. Before you start,know that it was the Roman Catholics that compiled and arranged the present day Bible every Christian uses. So its either you stop quoting me or shutup. 1 Like |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by Yuji: 5:24pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
shekauvsbuhari:You don't even have any proof so stop saying what you are not sure of. So if you kneel before your daddy G.O you are worshipping him? Keep deceiving yourself. 1 Like |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by chalz493: 5:55pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
nonhuman:correction the bible was selected, decided, canonized and compiled by the catholic councils and was declared errors free and inspired. |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by chalz493: 6:06pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
[quote author=Andy2274 post=62985563]When the topic is about Catholics, everybody will be quoting bible and claiming holiness. Just a post of less than 3hrs has 3 pages already. Is it only idolatry that is in the only sin in the bible? If you have ever had sex as a christian before marriage and you are against this you are wrong. Why did God asked Moses to mould a molten serpent that anybody that look up to it will be saved when the Israelites were bitten by snake in the desert? So God has turned idol worshipper abi? You people call on Jesus but keep insulting her mother and call her envelope or mere messenger. In Lk 1, God was the first to honour Mary. Lk 1:28-45. Pentecostal refused to read this passage because this is where Honouring Mary came about. You don't worship Idol but you bow before the chair which your pastors sat on and in defense you say the person is tapping anointing. If you can tap anointing from pastors chair then I can also tap same from the woman who God called Blessed and highly favoured. If you have a picture of your pastor in your house you are an idol worshipper. Everybody claimed to be holy in Nigeria but steal church money. If you are a winner living around Ota can you tell me you are not aware of some pastors that stole dollars recently and were caught because the they refused to increase the 50k they give to the cab man every Monday? Those ones will come here and be calling people idol worshippers. People that visit babalawo so as to get contract in the church will be talking nonsense here. Catholics Honour Mary and never worship her. Your pastors Go go around with armed bodyguard but tell you not to be afraid of anything. I wish it is a Catholic priest that is Nigeria vice president, they would have criticize Catholics till now but because Na Dem, everybody is quiet. [/quoteMy dear don't mind them useless people, what surprises me is how they claim to be christians yet they are not validly baptized,how can you be a Christian you don't know the apostolic creed and can't even profess their faith, for me I don't see them as christians rather heretics. |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by chalz493: 6:16pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
I don't mind protestants because they are useless people, what surprises me is how they claim to be christians yet they are not validly baptized,how can you be a Christian you don't know the apostolic creed and can't even profess their faith, for me I don't see them as christians rather I call them heretics. gameboyo: |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by chalz493: 6:23pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
danvon:I don't mind you protestants because you are useless people, what surprises me is how they claim to be christians yet they are not validly baptized,how can you be a Christian you don't know the apostolic creed and can't even profess their faith, for me I don't see them as christians rather I see them as heretics. |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by danvon(m): 7:03pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
chalz493:so ur d Christian don't even believe your Bible you trust men rather than God I don't blame u guyz anyway uve been brainwashed since d day u were born only God can make u see the truth |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by Nigeriadondie: 10:57pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
PaChukwudi44:Before I tell u please can u show me from your own Bible where these practices are acceptable? Pls do so with Bible references and I will show u with Biblical references that all these Catholic beliefs and practices are outrightly condemned in the Bible. |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by Themandator: 9:01am On Dec 07, 2017 |
suavetony: I won't engage you on the issue of the collapse of the USSR. Wars have been part and parcel of human history from biblical times ...humans are never going to stop offending God....That is impossible..... To have that scenario is to have perfect beings all over. As for your intercessors, I have to state that there is no dead saint that is interceding on behalf of the earth. The only recorded mediator and intercessor not on this earth is Jesus Christ. I have not found anywhere the scripture gave clues that the dead can and are actively praying for the living or the earth .... Whosoever believeth is saved ....Only the living prays for the living to believe and be saved On your 'our primary mission on earth' statement I would like to have a scriptural support for that if you can provide one .... As for me, I believe that we are here to reign as king and priest here on earth unto our God and to shew forth his praise. God created us for his pleasure. You have not listed the official message from Fatima as recorded by the Catholic Church. Here they are: the apparition at Fatima also declared: I will never leave you. My Immaculate Heart will be your refuge and the way that will lead you to God. Sacrifice yourselves for the conversion of sinners and in reparation for the sins committed against the Immaculate Heart of Mary. I promise to assist at the hour of death with all the graces necessary for salvation all those who, on the first Saturday of five consecutive months, go to Confession and receive Holy Communion, recite five decades of the Rosary and keep me company for a quarter of an hour while meditating on the mysteries of the Rosary with the intention of making reparation to me. |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by Themandator: 9:04am On Dec 07, 2017 |
chalz493: Please I am interested in your valid baptism and apostolic creed statement ...Can you bE more elaborate in both with scriptural references. |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by Themandator: 9:11am On Dec 07, 2017 |
Yuji: On November 1, 1950, Pope Pius XII made an allegedly infallible ex cathedra declaration in his Apostolic Constitution Munificentissimus Deus that "the immaculate Mother of God and ever Virgin Mary was at the end of her life assumed into heaven body and soul." In the Constitution the pope claimed that the dogma of the assumption had been unanimously believed in the Church from the very beginning and that it was fully supported by Scripture. In fact, the dogma was unknown to the early church and is unsupported by the scripture. |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by Themandator: 9:37am On Dec 07, 2017 |
Yuji: It is claimed that only the Church can interpret the Bible because it was the Church which gave it to us. That is like saying that because Paul wrote his epistles we need him to interpret them. Furthermore, the Church did not give us the Bible-certainly not the Old Testament, for there was no Church in those days. And if the Roman Catholic Church was not needed to give us the Old Testament, then clearly it was not needed to give us the New either. A favorite question of Catholic apologists is, "How do you know that Luke wrote the Gospel of Luke or that Matthew wrote the Gospel of Matthew?" They claim that Roman Catholic tradition contains this information. Yet no tradition proves who wrote Hebrews, Job, Esther, or various Psalms. Nor does it matter. That the authors were inspired by the Holy Spirit is what counts. This inspiration bears witness within readers who are themselves indwelt by the same Holy Spirit who inspired the writing of Scripture. Catholicism's claim that the New Testament comes from the Church by decision of the councils is false. No early council even ruled on what was canonical; yet in these councils, to support their arguments, both sides quoted the New Testament, which had obviously been accepted by general consensus without any conciliar definition of the canon. The Synod of Antioch, in A.D. 266, denounced the doctrine of Paul of Samosata as "foreign to the ecclesiastical canon." The Council of Nicea in 325 refers to "the canon"; and the Council of Laodicea in 363 exhorted that "only the `canonized' books of both Old and New Testaments be read in the church." Yet none of those councils deemed it necessary to list the canonized books, indicating that they were already well-known and accepted by the common consent of Christians indwelt by the Holy Spirit. Not until the Third Council of Carthage, in A.D. 397, do we have the first conciliar decision on the canon.18 That is rather late if without it Christians didn't know what books were in the New Testament and therefore couldn't use them, as Rome claims today! History proves that the books of the New Testament were known and accepted by Christians and in wide circulation and use at least 300 years before Carthage listed them. Historian W.H.C. Frend writes: The Gospels and epistles were circulating in Asia, Syria, and Alexandria (less certainly in Rome), and being read and discussed in the Christian synagogues there by about 100. In Polycarp's short letter there is an astonishing amount of direct and indirect quotation from the New Testament: Matthew, Luke, and John, Acts, the letters to the Galatians, Thessalonians, Corinthians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, Romans, the Pastorals, 1 Peter particularly, and 1 and 2 John are all used.... The Christian Scriptures were quoted so familiarly as to suggest that they had been in regular use a long time No rabbinical body decided upon the canon of the Old Testament. That canon was recognized by Israel and available as it was being written. Daniel, a captive in Babylon, had a copy of Jeremiah written only a few years earlier and was studying it as Scripture (Daniel 9:2). We are certain that the entire Old Testament was well-known when Christ was here and undoubtedly long before, for every Israelite was required to meditate upon it day and night. |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by suavetony(m): 11:07am On Dec 07, 2017 |
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Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by chalz493: 6:52pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
danvon:catholics believe in the holy scripture but the bible is not the only source of christians teaching, holy Tradition and sacred scripture for catholics formed the deposit of faith which is the sole authority to our faith. |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by chalz493: 7:08pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
Themandator:if you accept scripture and reject other doctrines of the same church councils that canonized the scriptures and termed them error free, What authority do you have to reject one and accept the other? |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by Nigeriadondie: 7:29pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
Yuji:Show us where in the Bible that Mary never died but went to heaven. |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by Nigeriadondie: 7:31pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
chalz493:So u feel the deuterocanonical books are part of the inspired scriptures? |
Re: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by Nigeriadondie: 7:32pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
PaChukwudi44:Oga i dey wait for ur answer. |
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