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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:56am On Dec 06, 2017
eph12:

Oh he created chances and scored a goal right? What else?

I saw most of Rashford final passes not meeting their targets if not all sef

Lukaku created 2, Rashford 1.

Rashford had more shots on target

Rashford had 7 successful dribble. Lukaku 0
(Shaw 4 dribble, Valencia and Mata 3, Tuazebe, Pogba, Martial 2)

Touches, Rashford 62, Lukaku 28

Dispossessed, Lukaku 2, Rashford 2.

Interception Rashford 1, Lukaku 0

Tackles 1-1

Are you entertained?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 11:59am On Dec 06, 2017
Uncle Elampiro are we gonna run comparison index all day just to end at "I told you so" or "I'm right" ?


Today own no follow at all.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 12:05pm On Dec 06, 2017
annie74:


Lol... Don't mind me. I come here to read fans analysis of a game but what do I get.. Arguments back and forth, fans picking on a particular player. We win a game, problem. We don't win, more trouble. Lukaku scores, trouble. Lukaku doesn't score, trouble. Most people even overlook his overall contribution. I just tire! Lemme keep observing.

grin
Don't let that deter you from bring a regular here. It's just one of those things tho.
You might wanna quit observation mode! wink

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:06pm On Dec 06, 2017
elrony:
Uncle Elampiro are we gonna run comparison index all day just to end at "I told you so" or "I'm right" ?


Today own no follow at all.

This 'I told you so' is what is causing unnecessary fight and bringing scrutiny to some players.

Innocently, I said "I am tired of Lukaku", after Arsenal match. That was after I defended Lukaku a week before. Some turn the whole stuff to FOR Lukaku or AGAINST Lukaku. So it became so afterwards.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:10pm On Dec 06, 2017
Mkhitaryan was another player I defended until his last match he started. Opinion can change. I was among the last to criticize Mkhitaryan. That is because I give plenty of benefit of doubt.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 12:12pm On Dec 06, 2017
elampiro:


This 'I told you so' is what is causing unnecessary fight and bringing scrutiny to some players.

Innocently, I said "I am tired of Lukaku", after Arsenal match. That was after I defended Lukaku a week before. Some turn the whole stuff to FOR Lukaku or AGAINST Lukaku. So it became so afterwards.
It's not even about the london game sef, I believe the resurgence was about the "woeful" tag last night (it really had no place)

Either ways, it should end then. The current discourse has outlived common sense.
You guys will just be going back n forth without any headway.

E don do.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 12:18pm On Dec 06, 2017
diggz:
Cc Nihilist, airmark,raumdeuter,sod09, chic2pimp

cheesy cheesy


cheesy cheesy

Chai.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by slimghost(m): 12:18pm On Dec 06, 2017
elampiro:
Mkhitaryan was another player I defended until his last match he started. Opinion can change. I was among the last to criticize Mkhitaryan. That is because I give plenty of benefit of doubt.

Bro, you are at liberty to criticize any player you like. Don't allow anybody shut you up.

I don't understand this mindless attack on Elampiro just because he criticized an underperforming player.
Yes, Lukaku had a decent game yesterday but I won't still hesitate to hit him hard when serves us shitt!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KinzyeWriter(m): 12:23pm On Dec 06, 2017
chrisley024:
So your assessment was only before he scored (the job of a striker) or are they 2 different matches
Rashford rating also went up after scoring. He also missed the best chance of the 1st half.

According to you, the woeful night was the miss and delay with Pogba's pass while we should forget the Rashford chance he created and his goal. Broda it's a faceless forum and no reward given for falsely trying to prove right always.


Anyone that termed Lukaku performance yesterday woeful just has issue with him.
It is as simple as that bro. cheesy ...

These people just have this personal hatred towards the nigga... I was at the viewing center with a barca fan yday.. He said he didn't see why people blame lukaku. That he isn't useless even when he is not scoring .. As he sees his paces and well precised forward passes.. He could do it with his head and legs.

I was surprised to hear this from another team fan seriously .. And some panke fans will be saying he was woefully performing before that stunner goal. grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sod09(m): 12:23pm On Dec 06, 2017
diggz:
Cc Nihilist, airmark,raumdeuter,sod09, chic2pimp

cheesy cheesy

stay away from this thread for your own good
Madness is now contagious
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by kelvinze(m): 12:25pm On Dec 06, 2017
annie74:


Lol... Don't mind me. I come here to read fans analysis of a game but what do I get.. Arguments back and forth, fans picking on a particular player. We win a game, problem. We don't win, more trouble. Lukaku scores, trouble. Lukaku doesn't score, trouble. Most people even overlook his overall contribution. I just tire! Lemme keep observing.
I'm telling you..no be small thing we de see for this thread.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MorataFC: 12:31pm On Dec 06, 2017
TOP FIVE GOALKEEPER IN THE WORLD

1 Manuel Neuer
2 Gianluigi Buffon
3 Thibaut Courtois
4 Hugo Lloris
5 Jan Oblak



Manuel Neuer finishing top of the pile isn't THAT surprising, but the Germany captain has been sidelined for most of this season with a broken foot, making just four appearances for Bayern Munich. Gianluigi Buffon, who recently emotionally called time on his international career, follows behind in second, with Chelsea's Thibaut Courtois, Tottenham captain Hugo Lloris and Atletico Madrid's Jan Oblak rounding out the top five in third, fourth and fifth places respectively.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:35pm On Dec 06, 2017
KinzyeWriter:
It is as simple as that bro. cheesy ...

These people just have this personal hatred towards the nigga... I was at the viewing center with a barca fan yday.. He said he didn't see why people blame lukaku. That he isn't useless even when he is not scoring .. As he sees his paces and well precised forward passes.. He could do it with his head and legs.

I was surprised to hear this from another team fan seriously .. And some panke fans will be saying he was woefully performing before that stunner goal. grin

I have said this over and over again but No, some people think they are being chastised for being crybabies, but I have promised myself from today to ignore unconstructive criticism from some certain people and viewed it as another ranting of a troll.
Don't be surprised next week, they will pick another player for criticism.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KinzyeWriter(m): 12:38pm On Dec 06, 2017
CapitalCee:


I have said this over and over again but No, some people think they are being chastised for being crybabies, but I have promised myself from today to ignore unconstructive criticism from some certain people and viewed it as another ranting of a troll.
Don't be surprised next week, they will pick another player for criticism.
Very well
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:48pm On Dec 06, 2017
MorataFC:
TOP FIVE GOALKEEPER IN THE WORLD

1 Manuel Neuer
2 Gianluigi Buffon
3 Thibaut Courtois
4 Hugo Lloris
5 Jan Oblak



Manuel Neuer finishing top of the pile isn't THAT surprising, but the Germany captain has been sidelined for most of this season with a broken foot, making just four appearances for Bayern Munich. Gianluigi Buffon, who recently emotionally called time on his international career, follows behind in second, with Chelsea's Thibaut Courtois, Tottenham captain Hugo Lloris and Atletico Madrid's Jan Oblak rounding out the top five in third, fourth and fifth places respectively.

You and this list are jokes

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MorataFC: 12:50pm On Dec 06, 2017
Vanquay:


You and this list are jokes
then the winners of ballon d'or over ten years are jokes, cos that is my source cool
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:51pm On Dec 06, 2017
elampiro:


Lukaku created 2, Rashford 1.

Rashford had more shots on target

Rashford had 7 successful dribble. Lukaku 0
(Shaw 4 dribble, Valencia and Mata 3, Tuazebe, Pogba, Martial 2)

Touches, Rashford 62, Lukaku 28

Dispossessed, Lukaku 2, Rashford 2.

Interception Rashford 1, Lukaku 0

Tackles 1-1

Are you entertained?
Who should be creating more between the two of them?

Who on this thread expects Lukaku to dribble? Come make pastor elrony pray for you abi since when did we start associating Lukaku with dribbling?

Rashford had more than twice the number of touches Lukaku had but created lesser number of chances and scored same amount of goals. You should be entertained brother because I'm not at all.

See ehn no make me dey analyse Rashford moves cos it won't end well.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:52pm On Dec 06, 2017
Vanquay:


You and this list are jokes
After all your years on NL you don't still know the battles to pick undecided

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 1:01pm On Dec 06, 2017
elampiro:


Lukaku created 2, Rashford 1.

Rashford had more shots on target

Rashford had 7 successful dribble. Lukaku 0
(Shaw 4 dribble, Valencia and Mata 3, Tuazebe, Pogba, Martial 2)

Touches, Rashford 62, Lukaku 28

Dispossessed, Lukaku 2, Rashford 2.

Interception Rashford 1, Lukaku 0

Tackles 1-1

Are you entertained?
So with all Rashford dribbles and playing FT he created only a chance while Lukaku with less mins created 2. I thought it should have been the other way round. Rashford had 62% pass accuracy while Lukaku 82% so he(Rashidi) was basically on the pitch drimbling. Lukaku also has the highest no. of key passes after Mata but dude was woeful.
KinzyeWriter:
It is as simple as that bro. cheesy ...

These people just have this personal hatred towards the nigga... I was at the viewing center with a barca fan yday.. He said he didn't see why people blame lukaku. That he isn't useless even when he is not scoring .. As he sees his paces and well precised forward passes.. He could do it with his head and legs.

I was surprised to hear this from another team fan seriously .. And some panke fans will be saying he was woefully performing before that stunner goal. grin
Got speechless when his performance was termed awful shocked
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 1:09pm On Dec 06, 2017
Elampiro please confirm this pic I got from shekpe thread.




Where on earth is Auba going to get 17 big chances to miss in this team? shocked shocked

Just go around, look at all the top teams in Europe, how many chances their strikers have missed, and don't forget they have a better attacking play.

I have been saying this, that I don't know which striker will do better than Lukaku presently

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 1:27pm On Dec 06, 2017
grin


Annie74..... don't mind elrony, jez keeps visiting and observing!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 2:05pm On Dec 06, 2017
sinizia:


Bro, what you quoted now is Elampiro's insult AFTER he's been insulted. And Elampiro responded after about the 3rd round of insults. Please be fair in this judgement.

How many times have you ever seen Elampiro insult anyone FIRST? Elampiro is one of the most civil posters here who doesn't insult FIRST. He only retaliates which is fair enough.

Unless 'you no know ball' is an insult, then I stand my earlier stance that Elampiro is civil in discussions.

Mind you, the first time HoopLA insulted him, he overlooked it.

People who throw insult first is usually because they cannot keep up intellectually.

Elamps is one who keeps it clean and with facts most of the time
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 2:13pm On Dec 06, 2017
elampiro:


Have you not seen someone who played 60 minutes and rated negative by whoscored and another came on same match at 75 minutes and rated positive.

Whoscored starts rating from 6.

If you have positives your score goes up from there. If you have more negatives than positive, your score goes below 6.

You can be on the pitch for 90 minutes and rate lower than one on for 15 minutes.

My point is Lukaku would've had more positives before the end of the game if he hadn't been withdrawn. You overlooked this.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 2:15pm On Dec 06, 2017
chrisley024:
So with all Rashford dribbles and playing FT he created only a chance while Lukaku with less mins created 2. I thought it should have been the other way round. Rashford had 62% pass accuracy while Lukaku 82% so he(Rashidi) was basically on the pitch drimbling. Lukaku also has the highest no. of key passes after Mata but dude was woeful.
Got speechless when his performance was termed awful shocked

I was gobsmacked too.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 2:34pm On Dec 06, 2017
chrisley024:
So with all Rashford dribbles and playing FT he created only a chance while Lukaku with less mins created 2. I thought it should have been the other way round. Rashford had 62% pass accuracy while Lukaku 82% so he(Rashidi) was basically on the pitch drimbling. Lukaku also has the highest no. of key passes after Mata but dude was woeful.
Got speechless when his performance was termed awful shocked
Let's blame those people he watches ball with. Elamps was not like this before, he has joined bad gang
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:05pm On Dec 06, 2017
chrisley024:
So with all Rashford dribbles and playing FT he created only a chance while Lukaku with less mins created 2. I thought it should have been the other way round. Rashford had 62% pass accuracy while Lukaku 82% so he(Rashidi) was basically on the pitch drimbling. Lukaku also has the highest no. of key passes after Mata but dude was woeful.

Dribblers don't necessarily have to create plenty of Assists and chances. They leave men behind allowing plenty open space for his co - attacking team mates. Their end result might be a Second Assist. Ronaldo, Neymar and Hazard don't count pass accuracy.

Neymar, Ronaldo and Di Maria have the worst pass accuracies in their teams.
Robben, Muller are also at the bottom in their team. Hazard is also not among the top in his team.

Dribblers destroy defenders and break their waist thereby opening spaces. When a striker or wing forward begins to count pass accuracy as major achievement, that wing forward or striker is close to ruin.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:16pm On Dec 06, 2017
eph12:

Who should be creating more between the two of them?

Who on this thread expects Lukaku to dribble? Come make pastor elrony pray for you abi since when did we start associating Lukaku with dribbling?

Rashford had more than twice the number of touches Lukaku had but created lesser number of chances and scored same amount of goals. You should be entertained brother because I'm not at all.

See ehn no make me dey analyse Rashford moves cos it won't end well.

A player who plays more centrally and closest to goal should create more chances. an exception could be one who takes set plays. The was why Van Persie was among the top three in 2012/2013.

A striker who sits in the box is most likely going to nod down for a team mate, pounce on a rebound and pass through to a team mate to tap in, etc. A winger who usually run from the deep would minus men on his way and pass to another who passes to the striker.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 3:25pm On Dec 06, 2017
elampiro:


A player who plays more centrally and closest to goal should create more chances. an exception could be one who takes set plays. The was why Van Persie was among the top three in 2012/2013.

A striker who sits in the box is most likely going to nod down for a team mate, pounce on a rebound and pass through to a team mate to tap in, etc. A winger who usually run from the deep would minus men on his way and pass to another who passes to the striker.
Who is the another he passes to that passes to the striker? See as I dey laugh for here. So the winger cannot pass to the striker or put others in goal scoring positions?

You no know ball aswear
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:28pm On Dec 06, 2017
eph12:
Elampiro please confirm this pic I got from shekpe thread.




Where on earth is Auba going to get 17 big chances to miss in this team? shocked shocked

Just go around, look at all the top teams in Europe, how many chances their strikers have missed, and don't forget they have a better attacking play.

I have been saying this, that I don't know which striker will do better than Lukaku presently

When you talk about big chances missed, also add goals scored.

Some miss big chances but compensate with double solo goals. Hope you are not going to bring big chances missed by Ronaldo and Messi to try to prove Lukaku has same scoring ability. These guys can miss one or two big chances in a match, but when match tie wrapper (deadlock) you would see these guys carry the ball pass men to score.

Lukaku mostly rely on clear chance to score. So he misses them, he goals stats become rubbish.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:29pm On Dec 06, 2017
Leyqute:


My point is Lukaku would've had more positives before the end of the game if he hadn't been withdrawn. You overlooked this.

He could have as well have more negatives during that time those young guys were on the pitch.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 3:30pm On Dec 06, 2017
All of Una no know ball

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 3:35pm On Dec 06, 2017
elampiro:


When you talk about big chances missed, also add goals scored.

Some miss big chances but compensate with double solo goals. Hope you are not going to bring big chances missed by Ronaldo and Messi to try to prove Lukaku has same scoring ability. These guys can miss one or two big chances in a match, but when match tie wrapper (deadlock) you would see these guys carry the ball pass men to score.

Lukaku mostly rely on clear chance to score. So he misses them, he goals stats become rubbish.
Even the one he scored yesterday was another clear cut chance? Abi the one he scored against Newcastle was a clear cut chance they created for him abi?

Should we look at his goals and check how many CCC he has scored and compare with how many he hustled to score since you say he mostly rely on CCC?

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