forgiveness:


Do I agree there is modern day CF and traditional point man? Yes.

Which one are we using in our own national team? That is my interest and not how Man city and Napoli play with CF or forwards.

Iheanacho was in Man city that plays the modern day forward but why was he sold off if he could play the modern day forward?

Simple, he can't play both.

Chrismario:


Sorry for joining the queue, I just want to know more.

Lookman won EPL young player ahead of nacho and Ndidi according to you. I'm not doubting that but just want to see the link of this your claim.


* what is the year and
*The age limit for such award

I don't know why I'm feeling too lazy to search on this topic.
If truly he won such award, then it shouldn't be based on his Everton career. His display since joining Everton is below average judging by the fact that he is an attacker. With less than 3 league goals in a whole year is indeed poor and I dare say that he would have been an outsider like Dennis and awoniyi even if he chose Nigeria instead.

Ok. Assuming that he won it as you said, that means he won it over Alli, Jesus, Rushford as they all are in the same age bracket.

TheGoodJoe:


Wow. So Nacho and Iwobi played as False Wingers. I did not notice that until you pointed it out. Here I was thinking Rohr is not technical enough.

TheGoodJoe:


This your last question is somehow. That is like saying if Overmars was a good right winger, Why did Luis Van Gaal prefer Finidi George to play the right wing.

Iheanacho and Aguero are modern day forwards but Gabby Jesus offers more attributes. Claudio Bravo is a modern day keeper but Ederson offers more attributes.

forgiveness:


Do I agree there is modern day CF and traditional point man? Yes.

Which one are we using in our own national team? That is my interest and not how Man city and Napoli play with CF or forwards.

Iheanacho was in Man city that plays the modern day forward but why was he sold off if he could play the modern day forward?

Simple, he can't play both.

Icon4s:


That Iwobi-Iheanacho with Mikel behind the duo front line against Argentina na killer o.

I think we need to switch to a 4-4-2 in one of our friendlies so we try that combo again. Omo! the fluency and efficiency of that attack too sweet. Iwobi and Iheanacho upfront with Mikel providing the passes. And V.Moses doing his own damage from one of the wings and Simon/Onyekuru doing the other.

forgiveness:


He is not good enough for Man city CF? Simple

TheGoodJoe:


We are Nigerians. It is not easy to play regularly in a big club in Europe. Especially if you are a Nigerian. It is a fact. Machin deciding to bench Kayode does not mean Kayode's quality is down the drains. Nsofor was lighting the EPL with Nuclear Shots and got rewarded with the bench. Ahmed Musa was playing well for CSKA Moscow until he joined Leicester City and now we can not find his name on the bench even if we use Ultra powered microscope.

So we can not over night compare to Argentina, Croatia.

Nacho just needs to work hard and improve his work rate. With time, it will be difficult for the coach to ignore him.

lexyman:



this combination is hot , it will be nice against older teams ... we are going to experience a very fast game play , mikel should be able to slow the tempo of that kind of gameplay at will . having Sheu and idowu as 2 and 3 .

Icon4s:


See how that front line was lined up:

.....Iwobi.....Iheanacho

............Mikel

That gave the Wing backs amply space to run and make incursions into the Argentine's 18yards box. Notably Idowu.

The friendship between Iwobi and Iheanacho off the pitch was in display that day. We need to try this again
We may need Ighalo if we chose to play any variant of 4-5-1. Iheanacho does not do well as a lone striker.

Full set up:

...........Iwobi.....Iheanacho

..................Mikel

Aina/Idowu..Ndidi..Ogu..Shehu/Ebuehi

.......Balogun/Omeruo..Awaziem..Ekong.

Icon4s:


Wetin? Are they not his mates?

Is it better he is kept completely out of football so he becomes match rusty?

goldfish80:

I didn't want to be the person to bring this up. I actually watched the game. He was impressive all round.
Maybe Chippa's new goalkeeping coach have already started earning his coins.

TheGoodJoe:


I think Nacho is built for a more offensive strategy. A system that has lots of support. Even if he is the lone striker in the formation, the wingers, creative midfielders and full backs should provide support and create chances. In most of our lone man system, we play in a compact fashion which reduces support. This I agree does not suit Nacho. I think it has more to do with the system than position.

goldfish80:

I didn't want to be the person to bring this up. I actually watched the game. He was impressive all round.
Maybe Chippa's new goalkeeping coach have already started earning his coins.

goldfish80:

I didn't want to be the person to bring this up. I actually watched the game. He was impressive all round.
Maybe Chippa's new goalkeeping coach have already started earning his coins.

mazimee:


He shot himself on the leg and he didn’t even know he did. What he was saying in essence was that Belgium would have been better for him but the competition was too much for him, So Nigeria wasn't his primary target.

goldfish80:

This is a very emotional laden comment,not an analysis.
Obinna was just about average for West Ham.As a matter of fact, he struggled to get into gear probably because of his new environment. Recall he even got a red card when he was settling in....
I wonder why you will make such a prejudiced comment against a club whose manager at the time Avram Grant have a decent pedigree coaching African players. At Portsmouth, the man had more black Africans than Europeans in the team.
He even came down to Africa and managed Black stars. So much for an African/Nigerian hater.
For goodness sake, why will Avram Grant bench a performing player when his West Ham side were neck deep into a relegation fight? This line of thought doesn't even make sense.

Ahmed Musa is not playing for Leicester City for political reasons. He was basically out of Leicester City when he laid hands on his wife. That incident was bad publicity for Leicester City. Clubs don't take the sort of things lightly.
He is lucky not to be in jail.

How can we be running around the Internet, craving for respect from our world cup opponents. Yet our best player is playing with the U21's. We are banking on this same player to fire us to the world cup semi finals. Yet you see nothing wrong with this?
I tire for una.

Icon4s:


He always needs somebody to play with. "He gives assists and he scores too". That is Iheanacho's kind of game.
He is not suited for a compact 4-5-1 system.

Icon4s:


They are not as efficient on the wings while our attack is more efficient from the wings.Rohr also needs to explore the weaknesses in their full back positions.
We may exploit this advantage you know.

As for the midfield challenge we need to crowd our midfield to be able to put up a challenge. A 4-5-1(particularly a 4-2-3-1 IE 2 "blocking 4" ) would suit this play.

goldfish80:

How many of those mates are going to represent their country at the world cup?

MetalJigsaw:
3-5-2 is the antidote.

tbaba1234:
I watched some croatian WC qualifiers. I observed that whilst the midfield are good on the ball, the CBs do not like to be pressed on the ball. They lose possession when pressed well and it has resulted in some goals conceded.

goldfish80:

This is a very emotional laden comment,not an analysis.
Obinna was just about average for West Ham.As a matter of fact, he struggled to get into gear probably because of his new environment. Recall he even got a red card when he was settling in....
I wonder why you will make such a prejudiced comment against a club whose manager at the time Avram Grant have a decent pedigree coaching African players. At Portsmouth, the man had more black Africans than Europeans in the team.
He even came down to Africa and managed Black stars. So much for an African/Nigerian hater.
For goodness sake, why will Avram Grant bench a performing player when his West Ham side were neck deep into a relegation fight? This line of thought doesn't even make sense.

Ahmed Musa is not playing for Leicester City for political reasons. He was basically out of Leicester City the day he laid hands on his wife. That incident was bad publicity for Leicester City. Clubs don't take the sort of things lightly.
He is lucky not to be in jail.

How can we be running around the Internet, craving for respect from our world cup opponents. Yet our best player is playing with the U21's. We are banking on this same player to fire us to the world cup semi finals. Yet you see nothing wrong with this?
I tire for una.

somehow:


70 minutes? I doubt that.

Until he's given another chance, won't judge him based on that lone incident.

A player doing well in Israel and Europa can't be that bad all of a sudden. (Not like I prefer him to any better forwards, just trying to play the devil's advocate here).

Joebie:
This reminds me of Cameroon at the WCQ. I like reading news like this..
I hope Argentina's coach also toes this same line of thinking.

TheGoodJoe:


Rohr made it clear that he wants his team unpredictable. Meaning some days we can play with a traditional striker waiting to pounce on chances. Some days, we can have a False nine. Some days, two forwards with one playing as a CF and another as a Support Striker. However, to achieve this kind of flexibility requires players who can play multiple roles.

Finito.

tbaba1234:
Joebie, look at this embarrassing story for Junior Pius... Stealing money...

Link to story: http://www.zerozero.pt/news.php?id=210174

Icon4s:


Wetin? Are they not his mates?

Is it better he is kept completely out of football so he becomes match rusty?