Edopesin:

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I dey feel blueto analysis die! Oga blueto I hail thee. Thou art good. Let me call Mickael2 to come query your analysis sha. He will take it into the lab and examine it for. Good analysis all the same.

somehow:
Joel Obi should be in Russia bar injury, I see him as someone who can control the midfield with or without Mikel on the field of play. He should go and learn from van perse on how he overcame his injuries.

That is also my personal view too. He will add quality to the midfield.

We shouldn't just overlook him like that because of his past history of injury.

kentebemoney:

Non will be dropped.

Na defenders go plenty pass.
Defenders:
Troost
Leon
Kenneth
Echeijile
Aina
IDOWU
Ebuehi
Shehu
Awaziem

Midfield :
<b> Mikel obi </b>
Ndidi
Ogu
Onazi
Etebo

Attack :
Victor Moses
Simon moses
Kelechi iheanacho
Alex iwobi
Henry onyekuru
Odion ighalo

Keepers :
Just fill in three names wey u like.

This is exactly the same in number in the different departments as our France 98 team.

chrisooblog:
robben for all his injuries was always fit and ready for the dutch at major tournaments can we say the same for joel?

Maybe Joel will be ready for this major tournament by the grace of God.

We should be optimistic rather than being pessimistic.

OMANBALA1:


I have hammered on VicMo indiscipline and complacency on so many occasion here. I know he is the highest goal scorer during our qualifiers but have you wondered why nigga has zero influence in the team....His commitment is questionable. At chelsea fc nigga is cool headed and plays to instructions but as soon as he puts on that Nigerian shirt he basically say ffuck you all. H e can contribute to the team but remove the "NEED" part. Super Eagle can win and even play better football without Victor Moses.

Is this based on the four matches he played in the WCQ or the past? Please point out one game in the WCQ where he dribbled excessively, refused to release the ball when he was supposed to, refused to track back and defend.
Please kindly do this and then we can see whether your analysis holds.

I didn't know coaching is this easy until I came to this thread

Everybody with its own formation,analysis and preferences

I can't just stop laughing

kentebemoney:

I hope so too.

I think we should master 3 at the back and one ultra defensive set up.
Na defense go help us for this World Cup

That is it. Defence. Because if score goals and can't defend well, we are going no where.

Mujtahida:

Is this based on the four matches he played in the WCQ or the past? Please point out one game in the WCQ where he dribbled excessively, refused to release the ball when he was supposed to, refused to track back and defend.
Please kindly do this and then we can see whether your analysis holds.

Anybody familiar with Victor Moses knows he is very selfish and by this I mean holding the ball for too long and wanting to dribble everybody ,score himself and become the hero. I cant direct you to a particular game but he do this all the time. Against Algeria in Uyo and Cameroon in Nigeria it was obvious. He over carries the ball and dont know when to release the ball. In Uyo against Cameroon he denied Ighalo a golden chance because of his complacency. VicMo is a selfish player in the colors of Nigeria just like Okocha was but this doesnt mean they cant play good football.

Sir, it's simple.
He is playing to instruction for both club and country.
Rohr wants him to play that way, and of course he has the qualities to do that.
It's inconsequential what position -- winger or wing back -- he plays on paper for SE, as long as there is always someone to cover when he roams.

Icon79:
Please closely watch Victor Moses when he plays for Chelsea versus when he plays for Nigeria. Let me tell you what you'd find:
He's still holding onto the ball too long when he plays for Nigeria, he doesn't do that in Chelsea. Granted he's playing in a different role.
He still engages in excessive dribbling when he plays for Nigeria, maybe not as bad as before but he still does that, but he has learned to release the ball promptly when he plays for Chelsea. Again, we gotta consider that he's playing in a different role at Chelsea.

Furthermore, and most importantly, it doesn't make a lot of sense to deploy your best and most creative player as a Wingback. He should be deployed in the final third creating and scoring goals. That's just like Chelsea playing Eden Hazard as RWB or Barca playing Messi in that role. Moses should have a free role in the midfield ... we need his trademark dribbles runs and incisive passes to unlock tight defenses.


O pari

Mujtahida:

I dey feel blueto analysis die! Oga blueto I hail thee. Thou art good. Let me call Mickael2 to come query your analysis sha. He will take it into the lab and examine it for. Good analysis all the same.

Oga I salute you. I have been enjoying your thrilling analyses and inputs here too. You and other well respected elders/stakeholders of this thread have been doing great. You guys are very knowledgeable and passionate about the SE and always trying contribute to see that there are improvements in the team. Kudos to you all.

Mujtahida:

Is this based on the four matches he played in the WCQ or the past? Please point out one game in the WCQ where he dribbled excessively, refused to release the ball when he was supposed to, refused to track back and defend.
Please kindly do this and then we can see whether your analysis holds.

that goal against Zambia second leg, his selfishness/dribble led to it... Shehu was free buh he wanted to enter two players.

kentebemoney:


Bros take it from me, Victor Moses is a constant in the forward line of the super eagles.

Iwobi scored two goals yes but his take on's on fast breaks were poor.
Watch his games with arsenal and the Argentina game.

Iwobi have been playing better for Nigeria than for Arsenal, and sometimes he plays for Nigeria it seems that he is underutilized at Arsenal. The freedom he enjoys from playing SE games and also the love and support from Nigeria fans have made it more comfortable for him to deliver his best. Unlike in Arsenal where he is too careful not to make a mistake on the field of play, and thereby not doing so great. Freedom is what actually “frees” people to live to their best.

As it stands now, Iwobi should be starting games for the SE.

Back from a 24hrs ban.
Mtchew

As long as he's fit, he should be invited.

forgiveness:


That is also my personal view too. He will add quality to the midfield.

We shouldn't just overlook him like that because of his past history of injury.

Icon79:
Huh? Omo, do you know something we don't know? How do you know that Rohr plans to play him as a Wing Back during the upcoming friendlies? I am not doubting you .... just asking out of curiosity.


O pari

Hahaha. Sir, I only said the coach should. I didn't say he will like I already know that it is going to happen. I was just opining on what I felt is one of the things that the coach ought to do during the friendlies.

Well yes, watching youtube should give me a clue but i want the house to discuss them too, those who have watched them before should share their views on what they notice. sure, others are familiar with our players but surely not our current playing pattern, even some Nigerians don't understand our current pattern.

Icon79:
Good point! But why not try to watch a few of their matches then we can analyze their strength and weaknesses. All it takes is a few youtube clicks away

I can assure you that most of their fans (Argentina, Croatia, and Iceland) are already very familiar with our team. Count on it!

O pari

Yea, i think i saw some of their set piece prowess/dead balls. i will have to watch their clips to get some knowledge of them.

Truidstar:


Iceland are "Bloody Organized". Difficult to break down and very good at set pieces. Argentina has some work on their hands in their opening game. Argentina will play their linear passing, high pressing and probing game. From what I have seen, if Iceland scores first from a set piece, that game is as good as over.

OMANBALA1:


Are you gonna be using Shehu and Idowu as wing backs or what? If so, how well do you think they can adjust in that role....Remember we have tried Shehu there and it was disastrous.

Please tell us how playing Shehu as a Wing back was DISASTROUS.

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For all those mentioning Joel Obi upandan. Notice I have never said anything about him.

I want to wait till he ends his season. The fitness condition he ends it with will determine.

That guy don disappoint pessin tire.

blueto:
Iwobi have been playing better for Nigeria than for Arsenal, and sometimes he plays for Nigeria it seems that he is underutilized at Arsenal. The freedom he enjoys from playing SE games and also the love and support from Nigeria fans have made it more comfortable for him to deliver his best. Unlike in Arsenal where he is too careful not to make a mistake on the field of play, and thereby not doing so great. Freedom is what actually “frees” people to live to their best.

As it stands now, Iwobi should be starting games for the SE.

True he plays with more guile for us and he will play a huge role for us in the world cup but I was talking in the context of the 3-5-2 formation , I would play Victor Moses ahead of Alex.

Shehu Troost. Leon. idowu

Simon ndidi. Mikel. Victor

Kelechi. Iwobi

This is our most potent attacking formation

Kog45:
It seems our victory against Argentina is changing our perspective on some players inclusive Victor Moses.

One thing about selfish play is that if you choose to play selfishly, then you have to justify it by scoring goals and no body or only few people will complain, players like Ronaldihno fall into this category. But that will not be the case if cannot justify your selfish play. Moses in my perspective is a player that can justify his selfishness on the ball against African teams with resultant goals, but I'm not convinced that he will successfully do that against quality teams in the world cup, looking at his previous world cup performance. Players like William and Hazard sometimes play selfishly in Chelsea but as long as they justify it with resultant goals then no problem, and even commentators will make comments like “that was an outstanding individual performance.” But I can't say the same for Moses who most selfish plays have not yielded many goals in Chelsea or chances created. Hence, need to play him as a wing back which he has excelled in.

We should understand that these are world cup teams that we will be coming up against, not African teams, and we should avoid a repeat of what we saw in 2014. I'm still pertinaciously of the opinion that if we must make the most out of Moses in the mundial, he should play the wing back role except the coach choose to use a formation that does not support a wing back role.

Even d goal scored by Idowu was a pass which he couldn't trap & somehow Idowu was there and the rest was history. I really pray he gets his mojo back. If just maybe he can trap a ball just like Iwobi,

Kog45:
Honestly i didn't believe it until i watched Argentina match,well better for him to improve on it.

OMANBALA1:


Anybody familiar with Victor Moses knows he is very selfish and by this I mean holding the ball for too long and wanting to dribble everybody ,score himself and become the hero. I cant direct you to a particular game but he do this all the time. Against Algeria in Uyo and Cameroon in Nigeria it was obvious. He over carries the ball and dont know when to release the ball. In Uyo against Cameroon he denied Ighalo a golden chance because of his complacency. VicMo is a selfish player in the colors of Nigeria just like Okocha was but this doesnt mean they cant play good football.

Boss,take it or leave it,moses influence on d pitch against Cameroon home and away made us to cart away four points from d Cameroonians, if not for him


I doubt if we would av qualified,cos it was those two matches DT sealed our qualification


Yes he has more "freedom" in eagles Jersey Dan Chelsea...maybe u re now cin d "freedom" as a negativity, I don't knw and beside.. Same tin for iwobi,he plays with freedom when playing for eagles Dan arsenal,though d latter doesn't hold on much to d ball Dan former. Having said dt,generally moses style for eagles hasnt affected d team negatively


Not DT if he had played a one touch football for eagles we would av won with a wider margin or played better,all in all,victory is what matter most.

Odunayaw:
better thread like this even de. Hope am welcomed

Over welcome, na him DE worry you so o..

Icon4s:


Please tell us how playing Shehu as a Wing back was DISASTROUS.

oga please let us play ebuehi there abeg...
the guy played better in the last friendly....

afterall the formation is not new to him....i think he sometimes play in similar role for his club....

Truidstar:


Iceland are "Bloody Organized". Difficult to break down and very good at set pieces. Argentina has some work on their hands in their opening game. Argentina will play their linear passing, high pressing and probing game. From what I have seen, if Iceland scores first from a set piece, that game is as good as over.

It is because they have been playing against European teams who also play organized football.

I saw their coach the other day making mouth that they can beat us because we are not organized. I just laughed.

Let them face us first and we will disorganize them with our unpredictable style of play.

Our team is unpredictable. That is a major strength. Some opponents see us as a team which likes to build attack slowly while some say we are quick in building attack.

Go look at all our WC qualifiers we approached each game almost differently.

The versatility of our players did not help matters for our opponents. As you are planning to stop Iwobi from doing damage from the wings, he starts from a more central position. As you are planning to stop Etebo from the CMF he starts from the AMF position. Moses can initiate attacks from both the left , Right and centre. Maybe that is why the Icelanders see us a not organized meanwhile that versatility is our strength.

Argentina are still Wondering how we managed to beat them in that friendly.

kentebemoney:


Bros take it from me, Victor Moses is a constant in the forward line of the super eagles.

Iwobi scored two goals yes but his take on's on fast breaks were poor.
Watch his games with arsenal and the Argentina game.

You know what I love about Iwobi? He doesn't bother much about the dribbles and what have you, he opens for you, takes the pass, delivers it to someone else and opens again.

Icon4s:
For all those mentioning Joel Obi upandan. Notice I have never said anything about him.

I want to wait till he ends his season. The fitness condition he ends it with will determine.

That guy don disappoint pessin tire.

I remember keshi dropped him for G rubben and many of his players...prior the world cup in 2014...he was in the provusonal list...

I pray he stay fit...I will want him over etebo...

Icon4s:


Please tell us how playing Shehu as a Wing back was DISASTROUS.

your fingers were too fast ...

Humility017:

oga please let us play ebuehi there abeg...
the guy played better in the last friendly....

afterall the formation is not new to him....i think he sometimes play in similar role for his club....

Na me be coach? Why you come dey beg me? Abeg o..... hahahaha

I want Omanbala1 to come and explain to us how playing Shehu as a Wing back was a disaster.

Did he even watch the match?

blueto:
One thing about selfish play is that if you choose to play selfishly, then you have to justify it by scoring goals and no body or only few people will complain, players like Ronaldihno fall into this category. But that will not be the case if cannot justify your selfish play. Moses in my perspective is a player that can justify his selfishness on the ball against African teams with resultant goals, but I'm not convinced that he will successfully do that against quality teams in the world cup, looking at his previous world cup performance. Players like William and Hazard sometimes play selfishly in Chelsea but as long as they justify it with resultant goals then no problem, and even commentators will make comments like “that was an outstanding individual performance.” But I can't say the same for Moses who most selfish plays have not yielded many goals in Chelsea or chances created. Hence, need to play him as a wing back which he has excelled in.

We should understand that these are world cup teams that we will be coming up against, not African teams, and we should avoid a repeat of what we saw in 2014. I'm still pertinaciously of the opinion that if we must make the most out of Moses in the mundial, he should play the wing back role except the coach choose to use a formation that does not support a wing back role.

Pls will you stop judging the guy by his previous world cup performances that's about 3years ago mehn, spare the guy some slack . How many games did he even play in the world cup?, he has grown as a player. And about is dribbles, well he once had the most completed dribbles in a league season