In as much i dont have much to say about this in the sense that i learnt okupe pull out of the party not long ago according to news so his talk make no sense.

On the issue of chairmanship I support the best guy to pick the win despite after electing the president the position of chairman is just a shadow.

Not interesting who pick the chairman all I care is apc must fall enough of apc madness and lies.

South West should back Jimi Agbaje for the job. He's better than that criminal Gbenga Daniel.

biacan:
Who takes bode serious

We do g

Xisnin:


Such attribute is rarely found among Igbos.
They followed OBJ wholeheartedly, same for Yaradua and Jonathan.


Southwest voting pattern is like that of advanced democracies where
candidates have to struggle to get a majority and victories comes with
51-65% support as opposed to 90%+ obtained elsewhere.

so does this mean south west are not united, because they've been thrown out of chairmanship of APC too.

plusfield:
Okupe is very right on this but most yorubas on this forum are too myopic to see it. If the yorubas fail to clinch the national chairmanship of pdp, they should not blame anybody but themselves.
How can the other five geopolitical zones be begging one zone to discuss among themselves and come up with one candidate and yet, they refuse. Strangers are now begging brothers to reconcile.

Also, okupe is right that the yoruba race have never got it right politically. Am happy he stated it here for the present indomie generation who feel like political masters, that Obasanjo in 1999 to 2007 was president without the input of yorubas. Yorubas actually backed Olu Falae of AD/APP alliance but the south east, south south and North central rallied behind obj whom his people rejected.

You are amongst the 32 wise men still living on earth today, the rest are mumus and dundees , and sadly I fall in that category
Please how can I be as wise as you, even if it's half as wise I will manage

South east= Secondus southsouth= Secondus Northeast= Secondus Northwest= Secondus southwest= confused. Anyone noticed how Wike and Akpabio have suddenly become relevant in PDPs affairs?

Jaideyone:

you appeared very intelligent in your first paragraph until you goofed in the second when you said Yorubas never got it right politically. we chose to play opposition for 16yrs and we gt it right in 2015. that's takes courage. the south east has only been out of the equation for two years and they ate already wailing like life starts and ends with 2015 election.

if things don't favour us in 2019 or beyond we'll gladly go back and have a regional party that gave us meaningful development as against a ruling party that had 16yrs and failed the country

Opposition for 16yrs? I'm confused here. OBJ was there for 8yrs out of the 16yrs.

Xisnin:


Such attribute is rarely found among Igbos.
They followed OBJ wholeheartedly, same for Yaradua and Jonathan.


Southwest voting pattern is like that of advanced democracies where
candidates have to struggle to get a majority and victories comes with
51-65% support as opposed to 90%+ obtained elsewhere.

When did Yorubas start voting in that pattern?
Did you not give block votes to Awolowo (98%)from pre independence elections to 1979-83 and Olu falaye in 1999?
You guys have short memory and very hypocritical.

Doyin have written a biased piece, not surprising though

Obj contested against another Yoruba in 1999. Till date no southern tribe in Nigeria have been afforded that privilege.

Yorubas supported obj in 2003 and Jonathan in 2011. Actually obj came to beg for the support of Yorubas in 2003. he knew buhari was going to win the northerners vote.

Yorubas have provided a vice president, speaker of the house and a president

let him name any other southern tribe that have been afforded these opportunities in Nigeria.

Pdp delegates from se and ss decided to elect their man as the party chairman. How does that affect Yoruba unity.?

What of the owner of ait (dopesi or what) isn't he from ss?. Isn't he also campaigning for the party chairman position?

Let him continue to be the spokesperson for Jonathan and not try to insult our collective intelligence.

By the way, let him and his bosses know that pdp will be a tough sell for Nigerians outside the se/ss with an igbo man as the vice president and party chairman. I am not a tribalist but a realist

porka:


It is called independence of mind.

Most highly educated societies have diversity of thoughts.

when lack of unity is shown by yorubas,you package it as sophistication and independence of mind but when shown by igbos you quickly term it as confusion.
How can this so called independence of mind get a political goal?
In this country,in order to achieve a political goal,blind following is direly needed but the southwest are too educated or better still divided by independence of minds which spells POLITICAL MENOPAUSE as long as NIGERIA POLITICS is concerned.

brainpower:
But Wike should have just let them have it.

chaimaship Position of a politcal party is too sensitve for an Afonja to handle.
This guys will sell PDP to Tinubu. They cant be trusted. You think PDP dont have sense .

I like when the bitter truth is said

engrchykae:
when lack of unity is shown by yorubas,you package it as sophistication and independence of mind but when shown by igbos you quickly term it as confusion.
How can this so called independence of mind get a political goal?
In this country,in order to achieve a political goal,blind following is direly needed but the southwest are too educated or better still divided by independence of minds which spells POLITICAL MENOPAUSE as long as NIGERIA POLITICS is concerned.

it is not about lack of unity or not, but the end product

Name one southern tribe with a better representation in government than Yoruba since 1999.

please oh.....who knows where i can buy the google freetel ice 2 smartphone ?...
I just wasted transport money checking mtn office at agbara and alaba...
but couldn't find it there .
anyone with useful info should pls share.
and pls dont recommend jumia.
they are selling theirs for an outrageous 17k!!!.
thanks in anticipation...

porka:


It is called independence of mind.

Most highly educated societies have diversity of thoughts.

Ogbeni gbagbe ee

Stop speaking grammar, the Yorubas are not united,they are known to be traitors and betrayers, that's the ODD TRUTH

Balkan:
chaimaship Position of a politcal party is too sensitve for an Afonja to handle.
This guys will sell PDP to Tinubu. They cant be trusted. You think PDP dont have sense .

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Isokowadoo:
Pls shut up,tnx

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Isokowadoo:
Pls shut up,tnx

Isokowadoo:
Pls shut up,tnx

Lol. You sound frustrated when it appears you have been overwhelmed.
Seun should do the needful pls by giving you a ban.
Nonsense.

Ojiofor:


When did Yorubas start voting in that pattern?
Did you not give block votes to Awolowo (98%)from pre independence elections to 1979-83 and Olu falaye in 1999?
You guys have short memory and very hypocritical.

You know nothing about Nigerian history, at no point did any candidate
ever got a 98% vote in the west. Even Awolowo lost to Nnamdi Azikwe's party
in the west, an impossible outcome in every other region in Nigeria.

Don't just say something before you feel like it, check for facts.

If you are serious about elections in western states, google is your friend.

Goodluck to whoever that win.

God bless PDP
God bless Africa
God bless those are not selling their votes to APC.


PDP - Power To The People

Power To The People - Change The Change.

The same parley that seeded the presidency to the North and VP to the east East seeded the chairmanship to the West. Why should SW have a consesus candidate when only them are expected to present the candidates...imagine PDP cant even afford to sacrifice ordinary useless chairmanship position to Yoruba...yet they will expect yorubas to vote North/East ticket as against a North/West candidate...na so Yorubas dull reach? Fumbling Buhari will win both SW and SS in 2019... God will give us power to live with it.

porka:


It is called independence of mind.

Most highly educated societies have diversity of thoughts.

My friend, you are getting wrong. The problem with the Your as is selfishness and too much education

Jaideyone:

you appeared very intelligent in your first paragraph until you goofed in the second when you said Yorubas never got it right politically. we chose to play opposition for 16yrs and we gt it right in 2015. that's takes courage. the south east has only been out of the equation for two years and they ate already wailing like life starts and ends with 2015 election.

if things don't favour us in 2019 or beyond we'll gladly go back and have a regional party that gave us meaningful development as against a ruling party that had 16yrs and failed the country

Did we get it right in 2015?

I would have commended Okupe for his effort but if I may ask: Of what relevance is PDP chairmanship to the South West at this point in time?
Can the current PDP wrestle power from APC in 2019 in spite of the latter's flaws? The answer is "NO".
Whether PDP gives the post to the South West or not, it is still a win-win situation for South West because its relevance in the ruling APC will continue to wax stronger.

plusfield:
Okupe is very right on this but most yorubas on this forum are too myopic to see it. If the yorubas fail to clinch the national chairmanship of pdp, they should not blame anybody but themselves.
How can the other five geopolitical zones be begging one zone to discuss among themselves and come up with one candidate and yet, they refuse. Strangers are now begging brothers to reconcile.

Also, okupe is right that the yoruba race have never got it right politically. Am happy he stated it here for the present indomie generation who feel like political masters, that Obasanjo in 1999 to 2007 was president without the input of yorubas. Yorubas actually backed Olu Falae of AD/APP alliance but the south east, south south and North central rallied behind obj whom his people rejected.

How ironic, those who are always getting it right have been wailing marginalization and underdevelopment till now.
Meanwhile those who are always getting it wrong, who just recently got it right are the same sets of people or are they not the same people?.
Let me tell you what you don't know about our people, our people are not interested in any party, they are looking for leaders they can trust with their lives, where ever these leadere are, our people will follow.
Show me your friends and I will tell you who you are, Bode George and his fellow Yoruba PDP members are not our leaders, did we not speak in 2015? , they are on their own.
Yoruba are looking for people who can better their lives, the question is what has PDP contribute to the lives of the people they govern.
This is a question that's been begging for an answer since 1999 or you think our people have short memories?
Shebi they sat their sorry ass down and pretend all is well, when Goodluck was rubbishing Yoruba people.
Did Yoruba people not answer Goodluck in 2015?.
I keep saying it and will continue to repeat it, that no God fearing Yoruba man will have anything to do with PDP.
All the good people that I know, who are involved with PDP have all left since 2012, let Bode George and co be given shabby treatment, " they deserve it ".

fellowman:


so does this mean south west are not united, because they've been thrown out of chairmanship of APC too.

Look at the big picture.

Oyegun as the chairman of APC in no way contribute an improvement
to his native Edo state. South-west didn't even compete for APC chairmanship
but they got some key positions in this current government.
There is no political unity in the south-west, but there is unity for the greater
good.

plusfield:
Okupe is very right on this but most yorubas on this forum are too myopic to see it. If the yorubas fail to clinch the national chairmanship of pdp, they should not blame anybody but themselves.
How can the other five geopolitical zones be begging one zone to discuss among themselves and come up with one candidate and yet, they refuse. Strangers are now begging brothers to reconcile.

Also, okupe is right that the yoruba race have never got it right politically. Am happy he stated it here for the present indomie generation who feel like political masters, that Obasanjo in 1999 to 2007 was president without the input of yorubas. Yorubas actually backed Olu Falae of AD/APP alliance but the south east, south south and North central rallied behind obj whom his people rejected.

Don't misquote the author; Obasanjo didnt get d support of d yorubas only in 1999. He was massively supported in d 2003 polls

plusfield:
Okupe is very right on this but most yorubas on this forum are too myopic to see it. If the yorubas fail to clinch the national chairmanship of pdp, they should not blame anybody but themselves.
How can the other five geopolitical zones be begging one zone to discuss among themselves and come up with one candidate and yet, they refuse. Strangers are now begging brothers to reconcile.

Also, okupe is right that the yoruba race have never got it right politically. Am happy he stated it here for the present indomie generation who feel like political masters, that Obasanjo in 1999 to 2007 was president without the input of yorubas. Yorubas actually backed Olu Falae of AD/APP alliance but the south east, south south and North central rallied behind obj whom his people rejected.

So which region has been getting it right politically?
What matters is meaningful development and not some
overrated party chairmanship position.

You and Okupe are being myopic.

All the polithiefers in Nigeria are scam.

plusfield:
Okupe is very right on this but most yorubas on this forum are too myopic to see it. If the yorubas fail to clinch the national chairmanship of pdp, they should not blame anybody but themselves.
How can the other five geopolitical zones be begging one zone to discuss among themselves and come up with one candidate and yet, they refuse. Strangers are now begging brothers to reconcile.

Also, okupe is right that the yoruba race have never got it right politically. Am happy he stated it here for the present indomie generation who feel like political masters, that Obasanjo in 1999 to 2007 was president without the input of yorubas. Yorubas actually backed Olu Falae of AD/APP alliance but the south east, south south and North central rallied behind obj whom his people rejected.

Well-done Mr. Get it Right

I'm not a fan of Nigerian political parties, but I'll choose PDP as a lesser evil. I hope they get it right.

For what its worth, the PDP focused on their curroption and some laudable steps in national development.

But APC focuses on their curroption and PDP. They are so fixated on defeating and burying PDP to remember that their is a country to develop. No innovation, no new agenda, nothing . . . Just pointless recycling of old PDP structures: efcc, treasury single acc, n-power, minimum wage, agriculture . . .

Jaideyone:

you appeared very intelligent in your first paragraph until you goofed in the second when you said Yorubas never got it right politically. we chose to play opposition for 16yrs and we gt it right in 2015. that's takes courage. the south east has only been out of the equation for two years and they ate already wailing like life starts and ends with 2015 election.

if things don't favour us in 2019 or beyond we'll gladly go back and have a regional party that gave us meaningful development as against a ruling party that had 16yrs and failed the country

Console yourself by yourself

Beats me why this useless clown and errand loser is equating their PDP market women drama with Yoruba people.

Abeg confine your rubbish to PDP and leave Yoruba people out of it.

Shouldn't okupe be telling us how the Yoruba people wrestled away the SW from PDP and now next in line to assume the presidency, even regardless of what's going on in Nigeria, the SW remains the powerhouse, the economic and intellectual center in Africa, nearly all the investments entering Nigeria today ends up in the SW and the SW economy is the 3 largest in Africa so who cares really.


Even sef, PDP died a long time ago, eve OBJ knew when he buried the PDP. This is nothing but some jokers trying to fan away aches from a burnt building.