Dua is ibaadah and we must do it exactly the way rosul did it without adding nor removing nor interchanging its place.

saying Amen after dua is something that is partaining to christians and traditionalist idol worshipers .. its been brought into islam by the sect called SUFI .. mUSLIMs only follow quran and hadiths according to the understanding of the sahabahs . . THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT ROSUL MADE DUA FOR SAHABAHS, MADE DUA IN FRONT OF THEM and there is no single sahabah that said ameen after rosul made dua for them or infront of them ... there are so many hadiths where rosul made dua for sahabahs. .non said ameen nor rosul commanded them to say ameen . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . saying ameen after dua is clearly not in islam because it has no proof in islam. STAY AWAY FROM BIDHA.. BIDHA IS KUFRU

Du’aa’ and saying Ameen to it are acts of worship; what is prescribed is to say Ameen to the du’aa’ of one who is saying du’aa’ at that moment. As for a du’aa’ recorded on a tape, it is not prescribed to say Ameen to it, because there is not really a person who is saying du’aa’.

And Allaah is the Source of strength. May Allaah send blessings and peace upon our Prophet Muhammad and his family and companions. 

Standing Committee for Academic Research and Issuing Fatwas

tolanee:
Du’aa’ and saying Ameen to it are acts of worship; what is prescribed is to say Ameen to the du’aa’ of one who is saying du’aa’ at that moment. As for a du’aa’ recorded on a tape, it is not prescribed to say Ameen to it, because there is not really a person who is saying du’aa’.

And Allaah is the Source of strength. May Allaah send blessings and peace upon our Prophet Muhammad and his family and companions. 

Standing Committee for Academic Research and Issuing Fatwas 

FATAWA WITHOUT NO DALIL . . muslims follow dalil not what alfa said. .ERI LO MATTER

ShaheedBinAliyu:
saying Amen after dua is something that is partaining to christians and traditionalist idol worshipers .. its been brought into islam by the sect called SUFI .. mUSLIMs only follow quran and hadiths according to the understanding of the sahabahs . . THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT ROSUL MADE DUA FOR SAHABAHS, MADE DUA IN FRONT OF THEM and there is no single sahabah that said ameen after rosul made dua for them or infront of them ... there are so many hadiths where rosul made dua for sahabahs. .non said ameen nor rosul commanded them to say ameen . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . saying ameen after dua is clearly not in islam because it has no proof in islam. STAY AWAY FROM BIDHA.. BIDHA IS KUFRU

Maybe that's why you are unable to secure a job for a long time now bcuz anytime your momma prayed for you to get a job, you just look like MUMU and not say "Ameen". If saying "Ameen" after dua was brought by the SUFI, it means SUFI revived the sunnah. See below

ShaheedBinAliyu:
FATAWA WITHOUT NO DALIL . . muslims follow dalil not what alfa said. .ERI LO MATTER

Since youare are shouting "DALIL", here, take these and shove it down your throat.


Some scholars say ameen is the abbreviation of the word Allaahummastajib lana which means "Oh Allah accept our invocation"

or O Allah, respond to, (or answer) what we have said. Other scholars say it is derived from the word Āmana (Arabic: آمن‎) which means So be it


There are many ahadith which state the importance of Ameen. Some say that if our saying Ameen coincides with that of the angels our previous sins get washed away. Also a few hadiths say that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) used to say it after finishing Surah Fatihah and he used to say it loudly.



Saying it is a sunnah. It means you can chose not to do it.

Hadith about Ameen -

Bukhari :: Book 6 :: Volume 60 :: Hadith 2

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah’s Apostle said, “When the Imam says: ‘Ghair-il-Maghdubi ‘Alaihim Walad-Dallin (i.e. not the path of those who earn Your Anger, nor the path of those who went astray (1:7)), then you must say, ‘Ameen’, for if one's utterance of ‘Ameen’ coincides with that of the angels, then his past sins will be forgiven.”



Muslim :: Book 4 : Hadith 828

Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) while teaching us (the principles of faith), said: Do not try to go ahead of the Imam, recite takbir when he recites it. and when he says:" Nor of those who err," you should say Amin, bow down when lie bows down, and when he says:" Allah listens to him who praises Him," say:" O Allah, our Lord, to Thee be the praise".



Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 12 :: Hadith 747

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "Say Amin" when the Imam says it and if the Amin of any one of you coincides with that of the angels then all his past sins will be forgiven." Ibn Shihab said, "Allah's Apostle used to Say "Amin."



Dawud :: Book 3 : Hadith 938

Narrated AbuZuhayr an-Numayri:

AbuMisbah al-Muqra'i said: We used to sit in the company of AbuZuhayr an-Numayri. He was a companion of the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him), and he used to narrate good traditions. Once a man from among us made a supplication. He said: End it with the utterance of Amin, for Amin is like a seal on the book.



AbuZuhayr said: I shall tell you about that. We went out with the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) one night and came upon a man who made supplication with persistence. The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) waited to hear him. The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: He will have done something which guarantees (Paradise for him) if he puts a seal to it. One of the people asked: What should he use as a seal? He replied: Amin, for if he ends it with Amin, he will do something which guarantees (Paradise for him).

Then the man who questioned the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) came to the man who was supplicating, and said to him: So-and-so, end it with Amin and receive the good news. These are the words of Mahmud.


There are more proofs. I thought you said there isn't dalil?. You don't even have dalil for your stupid "fatwa" (op) but you are repudiating other?.

Go back to ile keu, buddy

Saying "amin" doesnt guarantee anything. Everything is under QADAR. Saying "amin" after "dua" NOT during salat .. And the hadith you quoted in abu dawood is DAIF... It is against tons of hadith in bukhari and muslim. AND WHEN DID SUFI START QUOTING HADITH? RUN ALONG TO YOUR ONIRUJU FRIENDS AND TELL THEM WHAT I JUST TOLD YOU. . .and asked them why they did not give you the hadith of angel jubril saying dua for rosul and rosul was saying ameen?

SUFI who hates hadiths and have absolutely zero knowledge about hadith quoting hadith . .ati daif. .ati sahih that cant be used . .ati sahih that can be used . .u dont know. . kpelej

ShaheedBinAliyu:
Saying "amin" doesnt guarantee anything. Everything is under QADAR. Saying "amin" after "dua" NOT during salat .. And the hadith you quoted in abu dawood is DAIF... It is against tons of hadith in bukhari and muslim. AND WHEN DID SUFI START QUOTING HADITH? RUN ALONG TO YOUR ONIRUJU FRIENDS AND TELL THEM WHAT I JUST TOLD YOU. . .and asked them why they did not give you the hadith of angel jubril saying dua for rosul and rosul was saying ameen?

You are obviously contending with the prophet(saw). Evidences are presented before you.


"If anyone contends with the Messenger after the right path has been shown clearly to him, and follows other than the believers' way. We shall keep him in the path he has chosen, and burn him in Hell - what an evil destination." Q4:115

Empiree:
You are obviously contending with the prophet(saw). Evidences are presented before you.


"If anyone contends with the Messenger after the right path has been shown clearly to him, and follows other than the believers' way. We shall keep him in the path he has chosen, and burn him in Hell - what an evil destination." Q4:115

THIS QURAN VERSE IS VERY APPLICABLE TO YOU. I am not against saying amin in salat . . AT ALL. .am not. . saying amen after dua is what i am against. .THE HADITH YOU QUOTED FROM ABU DAWOOD KHUTUB HADITH IS DAIF . . . so what else is new?. tshew

ShaheedBinAliyu:
THIS QURAN VERSE IS VERY APPLICABLE TO YOU. I am not against saying amin in salat . . AT ALL. .am not. . saying amen after dua is what i am against. .THE HADITH YOU QUOTED FROM ABU DAWOOD KHUTUB HADITH IS DAIF . . . so what else is new?. tshew

You said Du'a is worship, so what is it to argue here?. The last part of sura fatiha is du'a. unless and until you bring forward your evidence that clearly says "Ameen" is restricted to salat only, it is only then the hadith in abu Daud may be considered 'daif'.

But if you can not bring evidence, then, sura 4:115 is binding upon you.

Empiree:
You said Du'a is worship, so what is it to argue here?. The last part of sura fatiha is du'a. unless and until you bring forward your evidence that clearly says "Ameen" is restricted to salat only, it is only then the hadith in abu Daud may be considered 'daif'.

But if you can not bring evidence, then, sura 4:115 is binding upon you.

THERE ARE TONS OF HADITH THAT SAID ROSUL INSTRUCTED US TO SAY AMIN DURING SALAT. . there is no single sahih hadith where sahabahs say amin when rosul made dua for them . .nor rosul instructed us to say amin after dua . AND WHEN DID YOU START BELIEVING IN PROPHET MUHAMMAD GAAN? u for go quote ur sheiks in sufi na. .afterall its them u f0ll0w and believe in.

ShaheedBinAliyu:
THERE ARE TONS OF HADITH THAT SAID ROSUL INSTRUCTED US TO SAY AMIN DURING SALAT. . there is no single sahih hadith where sahabahs say amin when rosul made dua for them . .nor rosul instructed us to say amin after dua . AND WHEN DID YOU START BELIEVING IN PROPHET MUHAMMAD GAAN? u for go quote ur sheiks in sufi na. .afterall its them u f0ll0w and believe in.

So the entire ummah regardless of sects are wrong for saying Ameen after du'a, abi?

This is not in salat



Hadeeth narrated on the authority of Abu Hurayrah may Allaah be pleased with him that once the Messenger of Allaah , ascended the pulpit and said: “‘Aameen! ‘Aameen! ‘Aameen!” It was said to him: “O Messenger of Allaah! You did not use to do so. “On that he said: “Jibreel (Gabriel) said to me: “May Allaah disgrace (or Far from the Mercy of Allaah is) a servant upon whom the month of Ramadan came and he was not forgiven.” I said: “‘Aameen.” He then said: “May Allaah disgrace (or Far from the Mercy of Allaah is) a servant whose both parents or one of them attained old age in his life and they did not cause him to enter Paradise (due to his kindness to them).” I said: “‘Aameen.” He then said: “May Allaah disgrace (or Far from the Mercy of Allaah is) a servant in whose presence you were mentioned and he did not invoke Allaah's blessing on you.” I said: “‘Aameen.” [Ibn Khuzaymah - Al-Albaani graded it Saheeh (sound)]



This is daif too abi?

Hadith awon elegbe claiming ahlusunnah ni yi . . i thought its it u were guna quote 1st ni. .i even told you to go and quote it . . ITS HADITH DAIF. . even if its sahih. .ko kin se eri. . its angel jubril to rasul . .and rasul didnt instruct his sahabahs to say amen after dua. . then, its no dalil. . ITS SPECIAL CASE FOR ROSUL. .just like marrying m0re than 4 wives. . .BUT THE HADITH IS DOIF. . .p

ShaheedBinAliyu:
Hadith awon elegbe claiming ahlusunnah ni yi . . .p

But your scholar, Sheikh Albany graded it sahih. So who are you to say it is daif?

Empiree:
But your scholar, Sheikh Albany graded it sahih. So who are you to say it is daif?

NOT ME WHO DOAFA THE HADITH. na jabata did. and he has knowledge in ilm hadith..and there are other scholars who also doafa the hadith. EVEN IF ITS NOT DOIF, ITS NO ERI AT ALL

ShaheedBinAliyu:
NOT ME WHO DOAFA THE HADITH. na jabata did. and he has knowledge in ilm hadith..and there are other scholars who also doafa the hadith. EVEN IF ITS NOT DOIF, ITS NO ERI AT ALL

Case closed. It is "Jabata said" while majority of the scholars said it is sahih. You are taqlidi

Empiree:
Case closed. It is "Jabata said" while while majority f the scholar said it is sahih. You are taqlidi

Laughing. .just al banni ni majority, . majority isnt even dalil in islam . . O DA THE HADITH IS SAHIH. . So ti tan.... ko kin se eri

Empiree:
Case closed. It is "Jabata said" while majority of the scholars said it is sahih. You are taqlidi

Obviously, that Jabata of a man is an ignorant fellow claiming to be a scholar teaching and misleading his followers just like shekau of Bokoharam.

I have Camm across people like them. The funny thing is that whenever you present them with clear evidences that rebuke their teachings, they jump to another topic without even accepting that they are wrong with regards the initial topic.

SokoDobo:


Obviously, that Jabata of a man is an ignorant fellow claiming to be a scholar teaching and misleading his followers just like shekau of Bokoharam.

I have Camm across people like them. The funny thing is that whenever you present them with clear evidences that rebuke their teachings, they jump to another topic without even accepting that they are wrong with regards the initial topic.

I UNDERSTAND YOUR HATRED FOR JABATA. elegbe ni e. ehn prove it that we can say amin after dua na . .mu eri wa. .fter

ShaheedBinAliyu:
I UNDERSTAND YOUR HATRED FOR JABATA. elegbe ni e. ehn prove it that we can say amin after dua na . .mu eri wa. .fter

I have never heard of Jabata till 3 days ago. As if really he reaches all the bullshit you spill here, then the dude is really an ignorant fellow.

SokoDobo:


I have never heard of Jabata till 3 days ago. As if really he reaches all the bullshit you spill here, then the dude is really an ignorant fellow.

LAUGHING

SokoDobo:


I have never heard of Jabata till 3 days ago. As if really he reaches all the bullshit you spill here, then the dude is really an ignorant fellow.

JUST visit voiceofthesalaf.com and download lectures on SECT. or perhaps check my threads. .av written like 2 on firoq. . . And also check my thread on who is a muslim. .p663