Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:25pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
tbaba1234:
BBC award is based on votes not performance. This was dinned into their ears but they refused to bulge. They said it's performance. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 9:26pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
Icon4s:
Enyeama is our all time best.
The goalkeeping position is not one to be toiled with.
It is not like an out field position where you have more room for experiments.
This is the Senior World Cup where the best all over the world play against each other.
A world cup goalkeeper especially if he is first choice must be one that has been tested and proven.
A 45mins friendly game may be enough to have a conclusion on an out field player but not a Goal keeper. Even Ezenwa with all his heroics against Cameroon, Zambia and Algeria can be said not to be tested enough even though the only goals he conceded in all 4 games were penalties. His down side was that he showed lack of composure and positional abilities. You now place more confidence on a rookie that played only 45mins of which the Argentines only had 1 shot at goal.
I have said it and I will still say it that, in the absence of Enyeama, I would rather make Ezenwa first choice rather than Uzoho. Erm ...I take an exception to the bolded. Though I believe so much in Ezenwa. I don't even believe that he played badly against Algeria but his biggest undoing is his height. He is good enough but I don't trust that he can save for us a last minute penalty. He is not good on spot kicks, he has never caught anyone. Such a keeper to me is not excellent. A well rounded keeper should be able to catch penalties too but for his height, it is a big disadvantage to him. Based on this premise I will stand by Uzoho for now until a better option becomes available 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:30pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
kentebemoney: Just finished watching the Nigeria vs Argentina game, our defensive play was like music, well structured and executed.
Noticed in the first half the Argentines full back were making the play with macherano making looping passes with them finding space behind us,to counter that when they build from behind, we had 3-2-5 shape with the front three pressing the center backs. They move the ball to the midfield, one drops from the front three to the midfield with Kc and iwobi not dropping too deep for an outlet for counter attacks.
I like the way we play without the ball and I think aside the coach getting more <b>Needed</b> personel he can work on getting the best out of the guys he has now.
And our passing accuracy should improve.
I Believe in this team, dem dey give me hope I watched the second half of that match over and over again because I downloaded so much so that now I am glutted. Too much of everything is bad- I can hardly endure the sight of it. Nice analysis all the same |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:33pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 9:37pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
Loogan: My people, I think we are starting to put to much pressure on our team, we have not played up to 20 games under gernot, we are not yet there as a team, but the signs are so positive so far. Risk taking is something Iv noticed a lot of Nigerians dread, my brothers inspire confidence in uzoho , alampasu, Ajiboye and nwokolor and they will perform wonders in the World Cup. Experience is grossly overrated with few Peeps here. Experience or just talent dosent run football anymore instead determination and team work does. why can't we just trust our young players more? Besides let's not get carried away and know we are on a rebuilding process. Placing semi final as a target is just so unrealistic, we are good but not there yet. On enyeama He's seems like a drama queen he needs to put the needs of his country first, he's not playing for nnf he's playing for we Nigerians who bless and pray for him for the joy he has brought us, besides what has he gone through that komenk so likes pointing out that OBI mikel has not with the federation? but it's the love and passion that matters. which I feel vincent has lost. whatever his decision I'm not worried a bit. For a team to be successful in any competition player power cannot be tolerated. He might feel entitled to have privileges maybe coz of what he has done for Nigeria in the past, but he has to behave more like a professional and not blow up at everything the NNF did to him. He didn't blow up when he was discarded by bielsa, so If he can treat a team coach with respect he had to show that kinda respect for the national team. forget Europe the SE made enyeama the player he is today. Don't want to judge since nothing is certain. Sincerely I don't feel we desperately need enyeama, guys need to wake up and see that this is 21century football, young players have no respect atall, all of em are hungry and want to be the best, you think the Milan 18 year old keeper would not have started manning the post for us for about two years if he were to be Nigerian. At age 16 so why can't uzoho and co. Do it. Our year is 2022. I'm glad we all saw the end of the year with success. You peeps here are amazing. And this is the thread with the most matured, humble and a bit myopic people on nairaland. Big new year of joy ahead! Someone finally telling it like it is...., what brand of Cognac do u like having? 3 billion gbosas for you 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:38pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
realpoacher:
Erm ...I take an exception to the bolded. Though I believe so much in Ezenwa. I don't even believe that he played badly against Algeria but his biggest undoing is his height. He is good enough but I don't trust that he can save for us a last minute penalty. He is not good on spot kicks, he has never caught anyone. Such a keeper to me is not excellent.
A well rounded keeper should be able to catch penalties too but for his height, it is a big disadvantage to him.
Based on this premise I will stand by Uzoho for now until a better option becomes available Uzoho it is for me too for now till further test |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:45pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
realpoacher:
Erm ...I take an exception to the bolded. Though I believe so much in Ezenwa. I don't even believe that he played badly against Algeria but his biggest undoing is his height. He is good enough but I don't trust that he can save for us a last minute penalty. He is not good on spot kicks, he has never caught anyone. Such a keeper to me is not excellent.
A well rounded keeper should be able to catch penalties too but for his height, it is a big disadvantage to him.
Based on this premise I will stand by Uzoho for now until a better option becomes available Ezenwa caught a penalty against Benin, during CHAN qualifiers. I know height is an issue with Ezenwa but In his 4 games in the WC qualifiers he never conceded a single goal from open play. I am not satisfied with him. In fact he is an evil. But a lesser evil. Uzoho is not tested. I don't trust such players. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elunico: 9:54pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
Humility017:
how good is is Uche ball control skills and passing....? I don't mind have him in place of omeruo.. The boy is good on the ball, loves to play the ball a lot, he's not easily dispossessed, I haven't seen him play at the defense before. You can watch one of his games at Granada when he played against Barca last year. He practically marked Messi out.
First time post. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elunico: 10:01pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
Loogan: My people, I think we are starting to put to much pressure on our team, we have not played up to 20 games under gernot, we are not yet there as a team, but the signs are so positive so far. Risk taking is something Iv noticed a lot of Nigerians dread, my brothers inspire confidence in uzoho , alampasu, Ajiboye and nwokolor and they will perform wonders in the World Cup. Experience is grossly overrated with few Peeps here. Experience or just talent dosent run football anymore instead determination and team work does. why can't we just trust our young players more? Besides let's not get carried away and know we are on a rebuilding process. Placing semi final as a target is just so unrealistic, we are good but not there yet. On enyeama He's seems like a drama queen he needs to put the needs of his country first, he's not playing for nnf he's playing for we Nigerians who bless and pray for him for the joy he has brought us, besides what has he gone through that komenk so likes pointing out that OBI mikel has not with the federation? but it's the love and passion that matters. which I feel vincent has lost. whatever his decision I'm not worried a bit. For a team to be successful in any competition player power cannot be tolerated. He might feel entitled to have privileges maybe coz of what he has done for Nigeria in the past, but he has to behave more like a professional and not blow up at everything the NNF did to him. He didn't blow up when he was discarded by bielsa, so If he can treat a team coach with respect he had to show that kinda respect for the national team. forget Europe the SE made enyeama the player he is today. Don't want to judge since nothing is certain. Sincerely I don't feel we desperately need enyeama, guys need to wake up and see that this is 21century football, young players have no respect atall, all of em are hungry and want to be the best, you think the Milan 18 year old keeper would not have started manning the post for us for about two years if he were to be Nigerian. At age 16 so why can't uzoho and co. Do it. Our year is 2022. I'm glad we all saw the end of the year with success. You peeps here are amazing. And this is the thread with the most matured, humble and a bit myopic people on nairaland. Big new year of joy ahead! Putting pressure on the team bi ti bawo? I'm lost. Does the coaching crew come here to validate their decisions as regard the team? Or does everyone on this thread have direct link to the NFF and the coaches? 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:01pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
isan: Nigeria players and their chances of making 23 man list for the world cup
Francis uzoho - 50% Dele alampasu - 30% Enyeama - 50% Mikel obi 100% John ogu 70% Ndidi 100% Balogun 100% Akpeyi 40% Ezenwa 50% Martins 30% Agu 40% Ekong 100% Awaziem 100% Ebuehi 60% Shehu 100% Kayode 30% Onyekuru 60% Onazi 100% Etebo 80% Iwobi 100% Iheanacho 100% Ahmed musa 100% Victor Moses 100% Ighalo 95% Ola aina 50% Idowu 70% Nwakali 10% Simon Moses 100% Osaze 5% Uduokhai 50% Uche agbo 50% Elcheljile 70% Anderson esiti 20% Efe Ambrose 20% Maduka okoye 10% Nwakeme 50% Ryan sanusi 1% Abdul ajagun 1% ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) Tiago ilori 1% ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) Sone aluko 20% Osimhen 5% Dessers 5% Success 30% Raheem lawal 10% Aiyenugba 20% Brown ideye 5% Ik uche 2% Bonaventure 20% Bazee 30% Tammy Abraham If he change his mind 0.00000% ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
Funny but mostly accurate. Firstly, I feel Echiejile stands more than 70% chance. His should be up to over 90%. Secondly Ezenwa seems to be the surest goalie to make it to Russia. Though whether he will be first choice or not is another thing.He would be a ready back up for who ever becomes first choice. He has up to 70% chance. John Ogu should be up to 90%. You forgot Kenneth Omeruo Uduokhai and Ola Aina cannot be on the same chance. Uduokhai should not be more than 30% for me. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:03pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
elunico:
The boy is good on the ball, loves to play the ball a lot, he's not easily dispossessed, I haven't seen him play at the defense before. You can watch one of his games at Granada when he played against Barca last year. He practically marked Messi out.
First time post. Welcome. We hope to see more of you. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elunico: 10:11pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
isan: Nigeria players and their chances of making 23 man list for the world cup
Francis uzoho - 50% Dele alampasu - 30% Enyeama - 50% Mikel obi 100% John ogu 70% Ndidi 100% Balogun 100% Akpeyi 40% Ezenwa 50% Martins 30% Agu 40% Ekong 100% Awaziem 100% Ebuehi 60% Shehu 100% Kayode 30% Onyekuru 60% Onazi 100% Etebo 80% Iwobi 100% Iheanacho 100% Ahmed musa 100% Victor Moses 100% Ighalo 95% Ola aina 50% Idowu 70% Nwakali 10% Simon Moses 100% Osaze 5% Uduokhai 50% Uche agbo 50% Elcheljile 70% Anderson esiti 20% Efe Ambrose 20% Maduka okoye 10% Nwakeme 50% Ryan sanusi 1% Abdul ajagun 1% ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) Tiago ilori 1% ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) Sone aluko 20% Osimhen 5% Dessers 5% Success 30% Raheem lawal 10% Aiyenugba 20% Brown ideye 5% Ik uche 2% Bonaventure 20% Bazee 30% Tammy Abraham If he change his mind 0.00000% ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
oh boy. hahahaha
You really tried with that and I was laughing while reading through. You were spot-on with most of the names there. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lexyman(m): 10:12pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
krattoss: Nigeria football is more of a team play than individuals accolades. ..
I don't think any Nigeria will be closed to clinching any individual award years to come.. ![sad](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/sad.png)
Victor Moses could have clinched the titled had it been he was given the opportunity to express himself as he does in Nigeria
But it's all well...make him carry am go cook soup...
All we need I'd just the results Moses would have remained on the bench or sent on loan ,his present position brought out the best in him. it has helped his decision making, cos he doesnt get the ball more often , any opportunity he has with the ball, he he utilize them well as if another one will not come . |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:14pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
Icon4s:
Hahaha.
Enyeama is a veteran of the Super Eagles of Nigeria. The best goalie to ever stand between the sticks for us. He is a great icon of that goal keeping position.
Which ever way you look at it he is a father figure.And definitely will be well respected. Agreed without reservation 100% In my opinion Enyeama is the best goalkeeper we have since the millennium. I really did think he performed magic against Argentina in 2010. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by g0tze: 10:15pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:
Brought out a chuckle from me. I learn a lot studying Pep. He is a cool homie. The dirty Joe how far. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:18pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
soetanoreoluwa:
Last time we check he told peterside he's tired of playing for Super eagles... What else do we want again? In my little experience in Nigeria U never take hearsay seriously. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elunico: 10:19pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
Icon4s:
Welcome.
We hope to see more of you.
Thank you very much Sir. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:19pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
komekn:
Agreed without reservation 100%
In my opinion Enyeama is the best goalkeeper we have since the millennium. I really did think he performed magic against Argentina in 2010. Yes o. The thing is Nigerians forget too easily. Enyeama that won MOTM in our first two group games in that World cup even though we lost. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:22pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
elunico:
Thank you very much Sir.
You are welcome |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:24pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by g0tze: 10:25pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
Super eagles sports fans, i am here to report to the house the childish and irresponsible behaviour of one of your own TheGoodJoe or Cityjoe. I have been his fan on this thread till he dabbled into some threads in the political section. His posts portrayed him as a full blown tribalist. Anybody that knows TheGoodJoe should warned him to refrain from posting tribal comments on the political thread otherwise this once peaceful thread will become a theatre of war. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elunico: 10:27pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
I have a question to ask. Is this the time to go about "looking for the best?" or is this the time for us to "bring out the best in what we already have?"
Kratoss, Kog45, Safarigirl, Mujtahida, TheGoodJoe, Komekn, Jihady, Icon4s, Icon79, Soetanoreoluwa, elyte89, Goke7, Jobie, Forgiveness, Somehow, goldfish80, Tbaba1234 + others who's got a thing to say. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:30pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
Mickael2:
Meh, it's called the BBC(BRITISH BROADCASTING COOPERATION) african player of the year award, of course the voting will be hijacked by sentimental English dudes. Don't forget that Moses refused to play for them, Manu fans definetly won't vote Moses, neither will City nor Arsenal and/or Tottenham fans, Salah seems the lesser evil since his Liverpool team is, well, Liverpool Lol.. I voted Salah. I'm neither sentimental Chelsea, Liverpool nor Arsenal Brit. I'm just an unbiased bystander who believes Mo deserved the crown. Better luck next time to Vic. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:32pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
g0tze: Super eagles sports fans, i am here to report to the house the childish and irresponsible behaviour of one of your own TheGoodJoe or Cityjoe. I have been his fan on this thread till he dabbled into some threads in the political section. His posts portrayed him as a full blown tribalist. Anybody that knows TheGoodJoe should warned him to refrain from posting tribal comments on the political thread otherwise this once peaceful thread will become a theatre of war. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:34pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
safarigirl: Oliseh's only wrong is that he's a radical.
Enyeama think say he stubborn, he no know say na Oliseh set dem start dey do cabal for National team.
Like an SUG President thinking he can lock horns with a leader of the Labour Union. Dem go use you do rubbish, dem no wan know wetin happen You totally have no idea about what you are talking about. You relying on rumour mongering and fake news. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:35pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
g0tze: Super eagles sports fans, i am here to report to the house the childish and irresponsible behaviour of one of your own TheGoodJoe or Cityjoe. I have been his fan on this thread till he dabbled into some threads in the political section. His posts portrayed him as a full blown tribalist. Anybody that knows TheGoodJoe should warned him to refrain from posting tribal comments on the political thread otherwise this once peaceful thread will become a theatre of war. Your plan to kill me with laugh will not work. Please, my darling mum is an Igbo woman. From Abia State. I have aunties, uncles and cousins who are Igbo. I go to my mother's side and I am welcomed as a son.
How the heck will I be tribalistic against the Igbos? Chill and sip some cold beer. Cheers. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elunico: 10:36pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
g0tze: Super eagles sports fans, i am here to report to the house the childish and irresponsible behaviour of one of your own TheGoodJoe or Cityjoe. I have been his fan on this thread till he dabbled into some threads in the political section. His posts portrayed him as a full blown tribalist. Anybody that knows TheGoodJoe should warned him to refrain from posting tribal comments on the political thread otherwise this once peaceful thread will become a theatre of war. I've been a follower of this thread for a while now, although started posting comments today.
Joe is a grown ass man, he can do whatever the hell he wants, any where he wants online, we're not his parents. Just so that when he comes into this thread he takes off whatever cloak he puts on in other threads, we're cool.
You coming to threaten the peace of this thread is as empty as the loudest drum, as you'd be ignored to the extent you'd doubt your existence, I trust the group of matured people here.
Whatever issues you have who Joe, work them outside of here. Entendido? 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:37pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
Mujtahida:
You've never had enemies in the NFF and we all know that those same officials are the main hindrance to his return. He didn't abandon the players. Do you know that Enyeama personally called Akpeyi after the Argentina match to encourage him. Do you know that? Who does such a thing if not a man whose heart is that of a father or at least a big brother. Have you not read his tweets congratulating the team most times while carefully put it across in such a way that it would not look like he's grovelling? (Efe Ambrose also tweets showing he is following the team) How can you say all these things when you have not spoken to Enyeama and yet find it so easy to judge the man and the situation ever so scathingly? Is it that easy to judge? You can you abandon the SE?
Seconded without hesitation. The Enyeama I know is a man of integrity, humble and incredible generosity. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:44pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
elunico: I have a question to ask. Is this the time to go about "looking for the best?" or is this the time for us to "bring out the best in what we already have?"
Kratoss, Kog45, Safarigirl, Mujtahida, TheGoodJoe, Komekn, Jihady, Icon4s, Icon79, Soetanoreoluwa, elyte89, Goke7, Jobie, Forgiveness, Somehow, goldfish80, Tbaba1234 + others who's got a thing to say. If you are talking specifically about the gk department we'd do both : bring out the best in the ones we have and also go for the best we have. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:46pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
elunico: I have a question to ask. Is this the time to go about "looking for the best?" or is this the time for us to "bring out the best in what we already have?"
Kratoss, Kog45, Safarigirl, Mujtahida, TheGoodJoe, Komekn, Jihady, Icon4s, Icon79, Soetanoreoluwa, elyte89, Goke7, Jobie, Forgiveness, Somehow, goldfish80, Tbaba1234 + others who's got a thing to say. I grew up with a different understanding of the game. Back in the past, we camped before the World Cup to make sure we are going with the best possible legs. I still feel it is the way to go but I respect whatever decision the coaching crew makes.
On your question, look at the game against Argentina and the impact of Idowu and Ebuehi. No matter how hard we work to get the best out of Shehu Abdullahi and Aina, I doubt they would bring such effects as Idowu and Aina.
I believe the impact of a better player is more effective than getting the best out of a weaker player, especially now the tournament is close. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:46pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
elunico:
I've been a follower of this thread for a while now, although started posting comments today.
Joe is a grown ass man, he can do whatever the hell he wants, any where he wants online, we're not his parents. Just so that when he comes into this thread he takes off whatever cloak he puts on in other threads, we're cool.
You coming to threaten the peace of this thread is as empty as the loudest drum, as you'd be ignored to the extent you'd doubt your existence, I trust the group of matured people here.
Whatever issues you have who Joe, work them outside of here. Entendido? Well said. We do not have a committee for the enforcement of ethical behaviour for anyone who is a regular here. We are all free moral agents. 2 Likes |