goldfish80:

Bros abeg forget that sentimental talk. Jay Jay Okocha won this BBC award back to back ahead of Samuel Eto fils,but Eto usually won the Apty.
Let's not throw our toys from the pram because the voting didn't favour us.

By the way, who says Nigeria don't vote their own? Do you know how many awards Nigerian musicians have won due to the sheer voting power of Nigerians? Even in reality TV shows, Nigerians have dominated Africa with our numbers advantage.

Salah deserves this award, no matter how anybody feels about it. Mo will get my vote every day of the week.

As my people say, truth and nonsense are siblings. In other words truth is bitter. Pharaoh Salah it is this year.

Very strong points

tbaba1234:


Mikel had just played an important role in Chelsea's Europa League triumph and won AFCON as Nigeria's best player.

Toure had a trophyless season with City and was bundled out by Mikel's Nigeria.

Toure won that trophy on past achievements not that season.

Ofcourse, you can say Toure is a better player but for that year, Mikel edged him.

tbaba1234:


I agree.

My point was that similar arguments could have been made for Mikel in 2013.

Not exactly the same situation in my opinion for Mikel and Toure. Maybe you can refer to the okocha/hadji robbery.

Very good with both feet. Plus he had like two assists. Future looks very bright if he continues like this.

tbaba1234:
Ofoedu Hatrick in Turkey


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh_UJQJ4_Yc&sns=tw

Is this not also decided by voting? Captains and coaches of the associations vote, right?

Taliban:


Not exactly the same situation in my opinion for Mikel and Toure. Maybe you can refer to the okocha/hadji robbery.

Taliban:


Not exactly the same situation in my opinion for Mikel and Toure. Maybe you can refer to the okocha/hadji robbery.

IN 2013, Toure won nothing..

Mikel was instrumental in 2 trophies, Afcon and the Europa league.

Icon4s:


Godwin Odiye's own goal was during the 1982 WC qualifiers and it was against Algeria

For the last game of the 1978 WC qualifiers we were beaten clearly 3-1 by Tunisia and no own goal.

Thanks for the correction

Joebie:
We will resist you. The context here is football if you want to engage him, keep to that political thread of yours.
We re not his parents. I don’t care what you do in your bedroom as long as u don’t bring it where I am.

Joebie judging from your post i see fear written all over. Hahahaha

Humility017:

how good is is Uche ball control skills and passing....?
I don't mind have him in place of omeruo..

It's simple Omeruo was out of the team for sometimes and Uche Agbo always in the team warming the bench but Omeruo got another opportunity due to injury to one of the players in the main team and at the end he was able to have 32 minutes appearance against Argentina,this should tell you he is better than Agbo.

My man you said you don't mind having Agbo in place of Omeruo and you are still asking how good is Agbo ball control skills and passing,pls a rejuvenate or back to form Omeruo is better than Awaziem and would give Ekong and Balogun a good fight for starting lineup.

Pls go back and watch Zambia vs Nigeria first leg and tell me who was better between Ekong and Omeruo minus the (error)did you know Omeruo is another good ball playing defender apart from Balogun in the team.

What really counted against Omeruo in this team was his late start this season and with more playing time we would have a better Omeruo at WC if he make the team.

isan:
Uduokhai only have to say yes to Rorh and he is off to russia

That is why I say his is not more than 30% chance.

Probability of saying yes is 50% already.
And after saying yes probability of giving a good performance in a friendly is still there and another probability of making it to Russia after giving a good account of himself in the friendly is still there also.

isan:
Nigeria players and their chances of making 23 man list for the world cup

Francis uzoho - 50%
Dele alampasu - 30%
Enyeama - 50%
Mikel obi 100%
John ogu 70%
Ndidi 100%
Balogun 100%
Akpeyi 40%
Ezenwa 50%
Martins 30%
Agu 40%
Ekong 100%
Awaziem 100%
Ebuehi 60%
Shehu 100%
Kayode 30%
Onyekuru 60%
Onazi 100%
Etebo 80%
Iwobi 100%
Iheanacho 100%
Ahmed musa 100%
Victor Moses 100%
Ighalo 95%
Ola aina 50%
Idowu 70%
Nwakali 10%
Simon Moses 100%
Osaze 5%
Uduokhai 50%
Uche agbo 50%
Elcheljile 70%
Anderson esiti 20%
Efe Ambrose 20%
Maduka okoye 10%
Nwakeme 50%
Ryan sanusi 1%
Abdul ajagun 1%
Tiago ilori 1%
Sone aluko 20%
Osimhen 5%
Dessers 5%
Success 30%
Raheem lawal 10%
Aiyenugba 20%
Brown ideye 5%
Ik uche 2%
Bonaventure 20%
Bazee 30%
Tammy Abraham If he change his mind 0.00000%

Ighalo 95% and Musa and Simeon Moses 100%?,also Etebo 80%? and you gave Mikel Agu 40% though i don't rate him,where is Ajiboye and you are having Aiyenugba and Maduka in % rating.What of Omeruo cos i see Efe Ambrose and Uduokhai in your rating.Cool rating

isan:
Nigeria players and their chances of making 23 man list for the world cup

Francis uzoho - 50%
Dele alampasu - 30%
Enyeama - 50%
Mikel obi 100%
John ogu 70%
Ndidi 100%
Balogun 100%
Akpeyi 40%
Ezenwa 50%
Martins 30%
Agu 40%
Ekong 100%
Awaziem 100%
Ebuehi 60%
Shehu 100%
Kayode 30%
Onyekuru 60%
Onazi 100%
Etebo 80%
Iwobi 100%
Iheanacho 100%
Ahmed musa 100%
Victor Moses 100%
Ighalo 95%
Ola aina 50%
Idowu 70%
Nwakali 10%
Simon Moses 100%
Osaze 5%
Uduokhai 50%
Uche agbo 50%
Elcheljile 70%
Anderson esiti 20%
Efe Ambrose 20%
Maduka okoye 10%
Nwakeme 50%
Ryan sanusi 1%
Abdul ajagun 1%
Tiago ilori 1%
Sone aluko 20%
Osimhen 5%
Dessers 5%
Success 30%
Raheem lawal 10%
Aiyenugba 20%
Brown ideye 5%
Ik uche 2%
Bonaventure 20%
Bazee 30%
Tammy Abraham If he change his mind 0.00000%

Interesting predictions.

forgiveness:


Barca, bye bye!!!!

My man it has always been 50 50 Barca and Chelsea,so why bye bye

elunico:
I have a question to ask. Is this the time to go about "looking for the best?" or is this the time for us to "bring out the best in what we already have?"

Kratoss, Kog45, Safarigirl, Mujtahida, TheGoodJoe, Komekn, Jihady, Icon4s, Icon79, Soetanoreoluwa, elyte89, Goke7, Jobie, Forgiveness, Somehow, goldfish80, Tbaba1234 + others who's got a thing to say.

Of course it is both.

We presented a solid team all through the qualifiers.
Rohr knew he had a team that was good enough to qualify Nigeria and so he stuck to majority of them and then applied changes gradually so as to still maintain balance and standard while in the process of building.

The only game we attempted to play without the senior players in the team we got our fingers burnt. . It became obvious that some players are the spin of the team.

Such players you and I know that baring injuries they are already in Russia: That is Balogun, Mikel and Moses. It simply means this is not a time to start experimenting for players who are better than Mikel for Eg. If there is any such player we would have known him by now. Or no point playing a Jamiu Aremu in a friendly cos we know he cannot displace Ekong or Balogun. Mind u also Awaziem and Omeruo are 2 other CB options.

The search should be focused more on specific areas that we feel need beefing up. Eg the attacking and FB positions.

My point is for areas of the team we know that is settled in terms of personnel we just maintain playing the regulars so as to attain more cohesion.
We only try new players in the grey positions.
We can also do a troubleshooting of some of the regular players in other positions like trying Shehu as a DM and Ahmed Musa as a false 9.
Some also say we should try Moses as a wing back.
And I also say we can try Moses as a false 9. Stuffs like that.

Friendlies are not there only to test new players. You also use it to test old players in new positions, test different formations and combo of players and ultimately to build cohesion in the team.

Lastly, no point in calling for an open camp or inviting 600 players. We know our team. We see almost all Nigerian players in the major leagues and so we know which ones are close to being Super Eagles ready. Those are the ones the coaches should invite.

Agali has been appointed Super Eagles scout. Watch out and see the names he will role out whether they will be different from those we mention here on daily basis.

Icon4s:


Performance induced votes.

Mohammed Salah is Africa's best. Gbam!

No surprises to be honest. Salah will also win Apoty. His form and numbers speaks for itself.

elunico:
I have a question to ask. Is this the time to go about "looking for the best?" or is this the time for us to "bring out the best in what we already have?"

Kratoss, Kog45, Safarigirl, Mujtahida, TheGoodJoe, Komekn, Jihady, Icon4s, Icon79, Soetanoreoluwa, elyte89, Goke7, Jobie, Forgiveness, Somehow, goldfish80, Tbaba1234 + others who's got a thing to say.

Hmmm great question to ask,definitely you bring out the best from what you have to make a good outing at WC,looking for the best always backfire,hope you remember how Keshi looked for the best for 2014 WC but at the end he got the worst believing they are the best.

Honestly we already have a team may be two or three players to the team we are ok

Kog45:
Hmmm great question to ask,definitely you bring out the best from what you have to make a good outing at WC,looking for the best always backfire,hope you remember how Keshi looked for the best for 2014 WC but at the end he got the worst believing they are the best.

Honestly we already have a team may be two or three players to the team we are ok

Gbam.

Kog45:
Hmmm great question to ask,definitely you bring out the best from what you have to make a good outing at WC,looking for the best always backfire,hope you remember how Keshi looked for the best for 2014 WC but at the end he got the worst believing they are the best.

Honestly we already have a team may be two or three players to the team we are ok

Keshi looked for the best That is very very debateable.

Several of Keshi's choices were questionable. We only had a first 11 in 2014. We had no bench. There were so many active players who were obviously better and would have improved the team.

tbaba1234:


Keshi looked for the best That is very very debateable.

Several of Keshi's choices were questionable. We only had a first 11 in 2014. We had no bench. There were so many active players who were obviously better and would have improved the team.

Hahaha Keshi felt he was looking for the best only to get the worst. That was what Kog45 was trying to say.

Gabriel Reuben, Okechukwu Uchebo(aka Flavour) and Shola Ameobi come to mind.

Odunayaw:
What now? CHAN qualifiers, who saved the penalty at Sani Abacha Stadium? Jim Iyke?

The problem is guys don't rate this WAFU or CHAN of a thing cos nobody ever talked about four goals Ezenwa conceded against Ghana at WAFU so do not worry if the guy didn't mentioned the penalty he saved in CHAN qualifier.

Icon4s:


Hahaha Keshi felt he was looking for the best only to get the worst. That was what Kog45 was trying to say.

Indeed you are elder for decoding my comment.

Kog45:
The problem is guys don't rate this WAFU or CHAN of a thing cos nobody ever talked about four goals Ezenwa conceded against Ghana at WAFU so do not worry if the guy didn't mentioned the penalty he saved in CHAN qualifier.

I hammered on those 4 goals he conceded and his attorneys claimed they were not his fault. Because then the focus was on kicking Akpeyi out. Nothing else mattered.

ChrisKels:
Fringe super Eagles forward and Leicester U23 star, Ahmed Musa put in a full shift today as his youth side came from behind to beat their Everton counterparts 2-1 in the premier League two which is equivalent of Spanish/German regional leagues as it is a developmental league unlike the championship, league 1&2.

This guy should leave Leicester ASAP coz this is not news just like ANZ now has the gut to put Nigerians players playing in youth football in their weekly first eleven nonsense, surprisedly seeing Enyeama making the best XI of the week keeping for a Lille youth team and one Nigerian born Arsenal youth player making the team.Are they telling us playing in youth league or division three is now a good criteria for Super eagles.

kennysville:


Someone finally telling it like it is...., what brand of Cognac do u like having? 3 billion gbosas for you

Henny sir.

Icon4s:


I hammered on those 4 goals he conceded and his attorneys claimed they were not his fault. Because then the focus was on kicking Akpeyi out. Nothing else mattered.

That's it my man some hold brief for this players to the extent you get confused with your analysis.

Joebie:
Is this not also decided by voting? Captains and coaches of the associations vote, right?

have you forgotten that most Africa countries are French speaking...this often play out during those mikel and okocha robbery....coupled wit the presence of isa hayotu as CAF president......
I believe in 2013 mikel should have won the caf apoty...he did better than toure that year...likewise in 2004 jayJay deserve to win also the apoty...how eto won it that year still remain a mystery....

Icon4s:


Hahaha Keshi felt he was looking for the best only to get the worst. That was what Kog45 was trying to say.

Gabriel Reuben, Okechukwu Uchebo(aka Flavour) and Shola Ameobi come to mind.

Keshi's selections were always problematic. It was overlooked because we won AFCON but look at the AFCON and the confederations cup team.

We had maybe 13 good players out of 22. We were carrying so many average players.

Icon4s:


I hammered on those 4 goals he conceded and his attorneys claimed they were not his fault. Because then the focus was on kicking Akpeyi out. Nothing else mattered.

let ajiboye be tried...
I have always know you sir icon as someone always not receptive to change and taking risks as it pertains to fielding young and new players...many a time you pitch tenth on the guise of experience which does not always follow....

prior ezenwa introduction you sticked to akpeyi and even downplay here the impact any of alampasu and ezenwa will make in the team's play.....
but after ezenwa performance....and play you now want him to be super eagles no 1 at the world cup should enyeama not come back.....
I believe you will change your stance again should any of the other goalies prior the World cup proves better on the super eagles shirt....

I rarely take your downplay of these young players serious.....
I remember also.....your stance as regard ebuehi...and I know should the lad build on his last performance in the next few games...you will shift goal post as well.

please let us build and shop for a reliable option...should enyeama return to the super eagles...good for plus...but in case things work out differently....let us build a reliable option...in the current goalies we have in the team....
no one is too young to play the round leather game....

tbaba1234:


Keshi's selections were always problematic. It was overlooked because we won AFCON but look at the AFCON and the confederations cup team.

We had maybe 13 good players out of 22. We were carrying so many average players.

I always had headaches on Keshi's selections. Even the tradition of keeping 7 slots for home based players. Always quarrelling with the big players.
This is what Rohr is getting right that Keshi and Oliseh had failed. Not that Rohr is even tactically superior.

Imagine Oliseh benching Mikel for Paul Onobi, Chima Akas benching Echiejile and the forcing of Silvester Igboun on 180Million Nigerians.

tbaba1234:


Keshi's selections were always problematic. It was overlooked because we won AFCON but look at the AFCON and the confederations cup team.

We had maybe 13 good players out of 22. We were carrying so many average players.

his success in the afcon entered his head...he began to think that he can transform any average player into a full fledged footballer....

his romance wit home-based players...I think could be tied to monetary gains...

he messed up himself...take it from me...no indigenous coaches will practise a fair team selection the way rohr is doing....
they rather fill the team wit their boys....

elunico:


Putting pressure on the team bi ti bawo? I'm lost. Does the coaching crew come here to validate their decisions as regard the team? Or does everyone on this thread have direct link to the NFF and the coaches?

You get my point but you choose to be sarcastic, really immature! Why not just pass on if you have nothing reasonable or informative to say? Just look at the questions you asking me bro.

Joebie:
A moniker told me It should be based on 16/17 season. But hey rules don’t apply when people vote. I think Moses was the better player in 16/17 season. In fact I voted for him for that reason. But hey Mo has been firing all cylinders even after the shortlist was announced. That will surely sway some voters. I think Salah is the better player for this calendar year.
And to your point we are actually the most biased and sentimental. I strongly feel Mo won beacaiae Egyptians (football fans or not) voted for him overwhelmingly. He is revered in that country.

thanks for understanding